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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 2:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I love Berlusconi. Such a champ. He does corruption with style, much better than the other dictators lol.


This next piece of news is something I highly agree with. Why not? Everyone should have a fair go I hate the fact that Christianity dominates the way things work, there's a few important Buddhist holidays too! I get Christmas off over here in Thailand so get with it Australia!

Besides everyone loves more public holidays! :biggrin:


Muslims seek public holidays to celebrate faith


A LEADING Muslim spokesman has criticised new NSW laws that enshrine the rights of staff to refuse to work on Christian-orientated public holidays.

The State Government is banning most shops from opening on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, Easter Sunday and Good Friday unless their owners can prove compelling demand from the local community.

Shops will also only be able to open for half a day on ANZAC day.

The new law prevents shop owners forcing staff to work on those days.

Sydney-based Muslim community spokesman Keysar Trad said workers of all faiths were entitled to a break and called for the two main Muslim public holidays to be recognised as well.

"It does give the impression that we are a solely Christian nation and it raises the issue of other religions too, whether you are Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim," he said.

"I know Muslim workers face problems asking for their public holidays off work at the moment.
 

"There are only two Muslim public holidays, so it is not a lot to ask."
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 3:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 4:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 5:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ranga empowerment! :teefslay:

He's a bit of a creature isn't he?
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 6:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ranga empowerment! :teefslay:

He's a bit of a creature isn't he?
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Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 7:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:
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Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 8:48pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:35amSubject: Re: In The News Today
ahaha thats awesome.
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LaurenPosts: 1,983
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 11:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Kanye ruins Swift's moment of glory

Pop star Kanye West has ruined a young singer's moment of glory when he interrupted her acceptance speech at the MTV Video Music Awards.

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Country singer Taylor Swift had just been presented with the award for best video and thanked MTV for the acknowledgement when the diminutive impresario snatched the microphone off her.

"I'm really happy for you and I'll let you finish but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time … one of the best videos of all time!" West said.

His outburst was greeted by a chorus of boos from the crowd before they rose to give a stunned Swift a standing ovation as she was helped from the stage.

The camera turned to Beyonce, who clearly looked horrified at the turn of events and at being dragged into the incident.

It's not the first time the egomaniacal producer of hits for Alicia Keys, Ludacris and Janet Jackson has butted in.

He walked on stage during the 2006 MTV Europe Music Awards when Justice and Simian won the best video award and posed in front of them before unleashing abuse.

"Share the wealth … this video cost a million dollars! I had Pam Anderson, I jumped across a f****** canyon," he said.

"If I don't win, the award show loses credibility … it's nothing against you, I've never seen your video but … hell no!"

West also caused controversy while performing on a Hurricane Katrina benefit concert, when he told a live TV audience that "George Bush doesn't care about black people".



lol Oh Kanye, you tossbag.

(as if taylor swift won best film clip though, seriously)
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:09pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol oh fkn dear


still-he has a point. The Beyonce clip is a classic lol
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
what a wanker

:lol:

is he talking about the single ladies film clip? has anyone seen the taylor swift film clip?
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 1:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
what a wanker

:lol:

is he talking about the single ladies film clip? has anyone seen the taylor swift film clip?
LaurenPosts: 1,983
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 2:24pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah i would say the single ladies film clip.

the taylor swift film clip, if they mean the love story one, i am absolutely clueless as to what is good about it.
delPosts: 3,160
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 10:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He is a knob. I thought he was trying to be a doper person?
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 10:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i am absolutely clueless as to what is good about it.

Generally my thoughts on anything that wins at the MTV Music Awards.
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YakPosts: 1,772
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 4:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He is a knob. I thought he was trying to be a doper person?

You love him Del
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dubbdPosts: 2,314
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 4:18pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
so does betty :lol:

love this headline...


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'Drunk mother fondled' on flight


Clare Irby allegedly abused flight attendants

A drunken mother revealed her G-string on a flight to Heathrow Airport and allowed a fellow passenger to fondle her, Isleworth Crown Court has heard.
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Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 5:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
so does betty :lol:

love this headline...


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'Drunk mother fondled' on flight


Clare Irby allegedly abused flight attendants

A drunken mother revealed her G-string on a flight to Heathrow Airport and allowed a fellow passenger to fondle her, Isleworth Crown Court has heard.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 7:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Victorian man 'had four children with daughter'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26084812-421,00.html

# Man allegedly raped daughter for 30 years
# Fathered four children to her
# Case bungled, calls for minister to resign

VICTORIAN Community Services Minister Lisa Neville is under huge pressure to resign after revelations of multiple bunglings by the child protection services, including the shocking case of a man accused of fathering children with his daughter.

In a case revealed by the Herald Sun this morning, the man is accused of keeping his daughter a virtual prisoner, raping her almost daily from when she was 11 years old.

The Opposition is expected to call for Ms Neville to quit in Question Time today following a litany of failings by Victoria's Department of Human Services to protect innocent children from falling into the hands of sexual predators.

Child welfare advocates are demanding a full inquiry into the horror sex case, with claims authorities failed to inves...

YO VICTORIAN MAN, I KNOW YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF RAPING YOUR DAUGHTER AND IMMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT FRITZL DID THE BEST INCEST OF ALL TIME!!

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Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 8:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I bet he started out just wanting a casual fuck buddy but she became 'clingy'.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 9:32pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Victorian man 'had four children with daughter'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26084812-421,00.html

# Man allegedly raped daughter for 30 years
# Fathered four children to her
# Case bungled, calls for minister to resign

VICTORIAN Community Services Minister Lisa Neville is under huge pressure to resign after revelations of multiple bunglings by the child protection services, including the shocking case of a man accused of fathering children with his daughter.

In a case revealed by the Herald Sun this morning, the man is accused of keeping his daughter a virtual prisoner, raping her almost daily from when she was 11 years old.

The Opposition is expected to call for Ms Neville to quit in Question Time today following a litany of failings by Victoria's Department of Human Services to protect innocent children from falling into the hands of sexual predators.

Child welfare advocates are demanding a full inquiry into the horror sex case, with claims authorities failed to inves...

YO VICTORIAN MAN, I KNOW YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF RAPING YOUR DAUGHTER AND IMMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT FRITZL DID THE BEST INCEST OF ALL TIME!!



:rofl:

I bet he started out just wanting a casual fuck buddy but she became 'clingy'.


:whut:
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Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 10:32pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Victorian man 'had four children with daughter'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26084812-421,00.html

# Man allegedly raped daughter for 30 years
# Fathered four children to her
# Case bungled, calls for minister to resign

VICTORIAN Community Services Minister Lisa Neville is under huge pressure to resign after revelations of multiple bunglings by the child protection services, including the shocking case of a man accused of fathering children with his daughter.

In a case revealed by the Herald Sun this morning, the man is accused of keeping his daughter a virtual prisoner, raping her almost daily from when she was 11 years old.

The Opposition is expected to call for Ms Neville to quit in Question Time today following a litany of failings by Victoria's Department of Human Services to protect innocent children from falling into the hands of sexual predators.

Child welfare advocates are demanding a full inquiry into the horror sex case, with claims authorities failed to inves...

YO VICTORIAN MAN, I KNOW YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF RAPING YOUR DAUGHTER AND IMMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT FRITZL DID THE BEST INCEST OF ALL TIME!!

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:rofl:

I bet he started out just wanting a casual fuck buddy but she became 'clingy'.


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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 4:18pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
How funny is this! The kids killed it with rocks haha!


Kids kill Panama 'Montauk monster' by lake

PHOTOS have emerged of a mutant creature which “sparked fear and confusion” by climbing out of a cave and approaching a group of children in Panama.

The photos appear to show the creature as a slimy, hairless humanoid.

Already dubbed “Gollum” by the UK tabloids, the 150cm tall creature emerged from a cave behind a waterfall on the shores of a lake near the small town of Cerro Azul and is drawing comparisons to the so-called "Montauk monster" found on the shores of a New York beach last year.

The children claim it started climbing over rocks to get to them. They defended themselves by throwing rocks and killing it.

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Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 4:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 
 Poor ET :(
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Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 5:48pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
 
 Poor ET :(
EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 6:26pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Hopefully thats not real and is one of those lame hoaxs..... well i hope anyway because if those kids actually stoned that poor creature, thats a terrible way to die. lol
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Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 7:26pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Hopefully thats not real and is one of those lame hoaxs..... well i hope anyway because if those kids actually stoned that poor creature, thats a terrible way to die. lol
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Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 8:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
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May be shaved sloth, pit bull terrier

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Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 6:21amSubject: Re: In The News Today
headline i saw today...

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Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 4:39pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rann-rolled

Clearly we need another law restricting freedom of association.

All people with newspapers are not to come within 500m of members of parliament.

This is Australia. If we have a problem with something we just ban it.
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 6:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
If anyone is keen is grabbed a few. Didn't think they would be around for long so figured I should plan ahead.

There are a few spare days between xmas & new years for those brave enough to join me.

Definitely another substance on my 'To Do' list.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 6:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
haven't been brave enough to try it.


jesus, if noddy isnt gonna touch it, then it isnt going to be fit for human consumption...

:E
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 6:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Definitely another substance on my 'To Do' list.

Haha I love it

Cops announce new drug that is on the streets - Immediately demand rises
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Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 6:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cops obviously haven't heard of the Streisand effect...
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 7:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Definitely another substance on my 'To Do' list.

By all reports it is pretty bloody intense. A mate of mine unwillingly had 4 off the top and reckons he was tripping balls for half a week. Seriously lost the plot for a couple of days.

He didn't mention anything negative about it.
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 2 Oct 2009, 9:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sounds like my favourite holiday season memories, except with added intensity and the lack of need to top up. I must admit, the last thing I took that worked for three days was an opiate, I've not experienced what it feels like to wake up still fucking nuts yet.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 3 Oct 2009, 12:02amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I've not experienced what it feels like to wake up still fucking nuts yet.

You're partying with the wrong people then.
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Posted: 4 Oct 2009, 9:33amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

 
By Damien McElroy and Ahmad Vahdat
Published: 7:30AM BST 03 Oct 2009

Ahmadinejad showing papers during election. It shows that his family's previous name was Jewish
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.

Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.

"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."

A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.

"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.
Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.

The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.

During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.

However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.

Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'

Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 4 Oct 2009, 9:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I feel the need to quote my own post, to comment on the lack of editing that takes place at online news outlets.

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

What the fuck is that.

"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 4 Oct 2009, 3:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wow, who would think there could be such a thing as a self hating jew...
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Posted: 6 Oct 2009, 12:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:
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Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 7:08amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Holy shit... :lol:

Thugs attack two transvestites... who turn out to be cage fighters wearing fancy dress


Two thugs who attacked what they thought were a pair of transvestites picked on the wrong men - when their intended victims turned out to be cage fighters on a night out in fancy dress.

Dean Gardener, 19, and Jason Fender, 22, singled out the two men walking along a street in wigs, short skirts and high heels.

Bare-chested Gardener was caught on CCTV confronting one of the men in a pink wig, black skirt and boob tube - then seen swinging a punch, a court heard.

But the other cage fighter, wearing a sparkling black dress and matching long wig, sprang to his friend's help, delivering two lightning-quick punches to the two stunned yobs.

The cage fighters were then seen teetering away in their high heels, stopping only to pick up a clutch bag they dropped during the melee.

Gardener and Fender were left dazed and seen staggering to their feet after their failed attack.

CCTV cameras followed the pair as they weaved along The Kingsway in Swansea, South Wales, before being arrested by police.

Mark Davies, defending, said: 'You know it cannot have been a good night when you get into a fight with two cross-dressing men.

'Unfortunately they were extremely drunk.

'They had been out drinking jugs of cocktails and Fender had drunk at least 10 pints of cider.'

Police later discovered the two drag queens were cage fighters on a fancy dress stag night out with other friends.


Both Gardener and Fender, from Bonymaen, Swansea, pleaded guilty to using abusive words and behaviour.

CCTV footage of the attacks was shown at Swansea Magistrates' Court. It shows them fighting with several men before the approach the two cage fighters.

The pair were sentenced to a four-month community order, were electronically tagged and placed under a curfew between 7pm to 7am.

I left out the pictures, because there is video!

The first minute or so is the attackers in a previous fight, which they appeared to lose as well. 1:10 the funny begins.

[video: www.youtube.com]

Gotta love that punch efficiency there. *SMASH* ground *SMASH* ground


And here is a blown up picture :rofl:
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timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 7:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 10:34amSubject: Re: In The News Today
That is fantastic.

Fucking hilarious.
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delPosts: 3,160
Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 6:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 12:22amSubject: Re: In The News Today
So, the Nobel committee, obviously fearing that political satire was no longer obsolete, have awarded Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize. It is now about as important as winning an AFI award.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 12:38amSubject: Re: In The News Today
or a blue ribbon at sports day!
what the fuck did he d to score the peace prize? get appointed?
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 12:45amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Signed off on plans to build a new prison camp at Bagram, kept rendition and the intelligence programs made famous by Cheney and Bush, kept two wars going, including adding troops in Afghanistan. Perhaps it is a new avenue to test Affirmative Action.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 12:48amSubject: Re: In The News Today
oh, well then good on him.  Deserves that prize for sure   :E
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Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 7:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
So, the Nobel committee, obviously fearing that political satire was no longer obsolete, have awarded Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize.

The prize's credibility has been in question in the past, this confirms it for me.  
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Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 11:05amSubject: Re: In The News Today
So, the Nobel committee, obviously fearing that political satire was no longer obsolete, have awarded Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize. It is now about as important as winning an AFI award.

Haha, it's almost like they gave him the award in hopes that he would do something significant to deserve it in the future.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 11:22amSubject: Re: In The News Today
he was only elected two weeks before the nominations!
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NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 1:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Haha, it's almost like they gave him the award in hopes that he would do something significant to deserve it in the future.

Like the skit he did on Red Faces the other night?
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Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 3:35amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner Dr Helen Szoke said everybody was entitled to service without discrimination.

"It is against the law to refuse a person service on the basis of age, sex, physical features, race and a range of other characteristics," she said.
Notice how she didn't say anything about what they choose to wear! I can see the point in what the promoters are doing, and they are still allowing these people into the gig provided they dress more casually (or fix their stupid fucking hairstyles). I completely agree, from the punters' point of view and from the industry point of view, the people who dress or groom themselves this way and indeed responsible for a great deal of violence and group intimidation. But, at the same time, I still don't feel that picking on this style of dress sense will solve the problem any more than keeping out the ones who don't conform. Regardless, one point to the promoters for giving some shit back to the wankers!  :biggrin:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 7:46amSubject: Re: In The News Today
what about banning head towels? (please forgive me but I ave no idea what the actual name for any traditional muslim atire, but I am refering to thigs like the face scalves some muslim women wear, pardon my ignorance)
What about baning something like nike(lawsuit for sure)?
what about banning bald people? or ugly people?

To an extent I think.. To not allow people in because of the brand of clothes [even style] they choose to wear is going to far. If its neat and there are no safety issues associated with it then I think it should be allowed.

this
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 9:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Most of the people commenting here seem to have little regard for property rights. They should be able to put pretty much any restrictions they like. Who cares? If they make bad choices it comes out of their pocket. You also wouldn't be allowed to walk into a bikie club in metro gear, should we discuss their rigid dress code? or maybe just frequent other clubs? It always amazes me that people want to put an end to bluntforce discrimination on the land of exclusive organisations. Hooray, I won a lawsuit, now my black girlfriend and I can go to klan meetings; hooray, now my gay partner and I can kiss in mormon churches; now I can wear metro gear to this new club, instead of walking down the road to the 58 septillion other clubs that will accept me, thus have a far more comfortable and enjoyable environment for me and my friends to enjoy life in. Do we also whinge when someone buys the property down the road and starts a metro only night? This news may merit a passing mention, I can't see how it merits meaningful discussion.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 8:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
for me its a celebration.  Ive thought dress standards pathetic for a while and am glad that finally they seem to be working for me rather than dictating to me. 

what about a no black guys rule? or the fernwood special of no men? is that discrimination?
shouldnt it be up to the individual? I dont visit bikie bars not because if their dress code but because of the clientele. I dont take my black girlfriend to klan meetings cause she's to scared to use the pisser by herself. 
I understand that its their money, their business and their gamble but how far can they push it?
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 8:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Of course it's discrimination; every choice made by anyone is a discriminating one. Think about the meaning of that word for a while.

The Fernwood special of no men is fine by me, I go to another gym. Again, discrimination, but perfectly acceptable as it is their choice in a non-essential, non-monopolised, marketplace, with their property.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 9:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
that only shows concern for the business aspect, what about the customers rights. By that notion a company has the right to do,sell,allow whatever they like as long as its only their business being effected. 
What if schools(practically a fuckin business these days) decided no black kids(their call) or better yet if any business in Australia banned aboriginals? is that still just as acceptable as only they are losing out?
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timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 10:54amSubject: Re: In The News Today
i have been considering turning metro for a while now, this has completely put me off.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 11:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
that only shows concern for the business aspect, what about the customers rights. By that notion a company has the right to do,sell,allow whatever they like as long as its only their business being effected. 
What if schools(practically a fuckin business these days) decided no black kids(their call) or better yet if any business in Australia banned aboriginals? is that still just as acceptable as only they are losing out?


The customer has the right to go somewhere else. As long as the owner is operating within the law then it's entirely up to them. Not letting somebody in because of their race is a different issue all together. Stop being ridiculous.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 11:30amSubject: Re: In The News Today
so race is off the cards but its okay to have a girls only club(fernwood say).  so we cant discriminate against people for their nationality or skin colour but we can if they have/dont have a dick!   
I agree to some extent with what your saying, its their venue so they decide whos allowed in, fair enough if it were a party at your place and you dont want certain people there but we're talkin about a pub! 

as much as I complain I know your right that they have full control over who they let in the door just as every business does but a dress code just seems like something that should be reserved for swanky restaurants or haloween parties not the pub on a saturday night.

especially when they go to the extent of kickin people out who have been there all day because they dont meet their 'after 8 o'clock dress code'
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 11:36amSubject: Re: In The News Today
IMO, they need to add whining little Smiling dudes to their no entry list too.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 12:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i have been considering turning metro for a while now, this has completely put me off.

do it timboh its the cool thing to do
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Posted: 17 Nov 2009, 12:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Does that kabab taste like chicken?

Cannibals nabbed selling corpse to kebab house

Russian police have arrested three homeless people suspected of eating a 25-year-old man they had butchered and selling other bits of the corpse to a local kebab house.

Suspicions were raised when dismembered parts of a human body were found near a bus stop in the outskirts of the Russian city of Perm, 1,150 km (720 miles) east of Moscow.

Three homeless men with previous criminal records have been arrested on suspicion of setting upon a foe with knives and a hammer before chopping up his corpse to eat, local investigators said in a statement on their www.susk.perm.ru Web site.

"After carrying out the crime, the corpse was divided up: part was eaten and part was also sold to a kiosk selling kebabs and pies," the Prosecutor-General's main investigative unit for the Perm region said on Friday.

It was not immediately clear from the statement if any of the corpse had been sold to customers.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/the-other-side/cannibals-nabbed-selling-corpse-to-kebab-house/story-e6frfhk6-1225798471101
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Posted: 18 Nov 2009, 8:40amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Anybody see Senator Nick Xenophon rip into Scientology? Certainly no punches held there. Basically called them a criminal organisation hiding behind religous beliefs.

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Senator Nick Xenophon says Scientology is 'a criminal organisation'

    * Xenophon calls Scientology "criminal"
    * Says people have told him of crimes
    * Church accuses Xenophon of "outrageous abuse"

INDEPENDENT Senator Nick Xenophon has accused the Church of Scientology of being a "two-faced, criminal organisation" hiding behind religious beliefs to get rich.

He has told Parliament he has been contacted by a number of former Scientologists, after he questioned the tax exempt status given to the organisation, which has has said "turns supporters into victims in its pursuit of power and wealth".

"They have provided long and detailed letters to me about the workings of this organisation,'' he told the Senate yesterday.  "These people rightly see themselves as victims of Scientology.''

Senator Xenophon has tabled the letters in the Senate.  They accuse the organisation of a range of crimes, including forced imprisonment, coerced abortions, embezzlement of church funds, physical violence, intimidation and blackmail.

The Church of Scientology released a statement accusing Senator Xenophon of an "outrageous" abuse of parliamentary privilege and later said they would work with police in any investigations that arose from the allegations.
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    * Response: 'An outrageous abuse'

Accusations

In a letter from Perth man Aaron Saxton, he admits to torture and blackmail while working for the Church of Scientology in Australia and at its US headquarters between 1989 and 1996, The Australian reported.

Another letter from Carmel Underwood, a former executive director of the church's Sydney branch, alleges a child abuse cover-up in the 1980s in which the vicim was "coached" to lie to authorities.

In the third letter, Sydney man Dean Detheridge, part of the church for 17 years, says the church "culled ... embarrassing revelations and confessions" from counselling sessions that could be used against members who turned against the church.

He also says he witnesses and participated in "concerted efforts to extract as much money as possible" from parishioners with "absolutely no regard" for their financial situation.

"I am deeply concerned about this organisation and the devastating impact it can have on its followers,'' Senator Xenophon told the chamber.

Senator Xenophon said the Church of Scientology had been convicted of fraud in France and was facing similar charges in Belgium.

A number of the organisation's former high ranking executives in the US had also recently spoken out against its leader, David Miscavige, saying they had seen him assaulting staff and urging others to do the same, he said.

"What we are seeing is a worldwide pattern of abuse and criminality,'' Senator Xenophon said.  "On the body of evidence, this is not happening by accident, it is happening by design.

"In my view, this is a two-faced organisation," he told the Senate.  "Scientology is not a religious organisation, it is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.''

The Church of Scientology dismissed Senator Xenophon's claims as "hate speech".

"Senator Xenophon is obviously being pressured by disgruntled former members who use hate speech and distorted accounts of their experiences in the church," the church's statement read.  "They are about as reliable as former spouses are when talking about their ex-partner."

The church described the former members' statements as constituting a "propaganda campaign that would suit a totalitarian regime, not Australia, a country that recognises freedom of religion".

Later, the vice-president of the church in Australia, Cyrus Brooks, said the church took any claim of illegal activity seriously.  "We would co-operate with police in any of these matters," he said on Fairfax radio.

He said the church had tried to contact Senator Xenophon repeatedly, but he would not speak with them.

- From The Australian and AAP

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26365915-421,00.html

Good on him I say. Biggest scam going round! Even more so than normal religions. :E
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, 12:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah i saw that - pretty ballsey move given Scientology's history of relentlessly slapping litigation on anything it perceives as a threat - usually just because a huge rich organisation can afford to do so, whereas individuals (Ascienthists? :E ) end up going bankrupt in legal fees, sometimes before it even reaches court, regardless of whether their claims were legit.

or Scientologies unlawful wiretappings, surveillance of 'enemies' of the religion, infiltrations of organisation (read up about their heisting of documents in the IRS during the 60s or 70s in the US - seriously nasty organisation.
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Posted: 18 Nov 2009, 12:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
FYI this debate does not infringe rule 14. :E
delPosts: 3,160
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 12:51amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Even though I'm not really a fan of Nick Xenophon, good on him for having a go at the Scientologists.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 2:43amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wheelchair champ conquers Track
November 18, 2009

PARALYMPIAN Kurt Fearnley's "superhuman" effort to crawl Papua New Guinea's Kokoda Track is complete, ending with an emotional and weary celebration.

Fearnley, 28, finished his 10-day trek at Owers Corner, the southern end of the track, just a little after 9am  today.

Fearnley said there were moments he thought about quitting along the 96km track through mud and rugged terrain.

"Mate, I just was hurting, it was the toughest thing I've ever done," he said.

In emotional scenes at the finish, Fearnley was surprised by his mother and father Jacqueline and Glenn, who had travelled from their home of Carcoar in central NSW, to share a few tears and couple of bottles of champagne with their youngest son.

"It's been a very big day and we're glad it's over," his mother said.

Track veteran and Kokoda Spirit team leader Wayne Weatherall said it was the most amazing effort he'd ever seen in his time trekking.

"To call him a superhero or superhuman is not too far from the truth," he said.

Fearnley, the four-time New York wheelchair marathon winner, had to drag himself on his hands along the famous track but had support from 15 family members plus his team of porters and guides.


:jawdrop:
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Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 3:05amSubject: Re: In The News Today
good on him :lighter: :lighter:
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 7:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rudd may overturn ACT gay union law
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26384998-5006301,00.html

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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said yesterday the Government had not ruled out vetoing the laws, which were passed by the ACT Legislative Assembly this month.

Two previous attempts to introduce such laws were stymied by the Federal Government, which has the power to disallow territory laws.

The possibility of blocking them for the third time was still being considered, Mr Rudd said.

"We'll just see what the legal advice says in terms of what can be done here in the ACT," he said. "I don't know the outcome of that yet."

His comments come as the Government faces increasing pressure to rethink its approach on gay marriage.

The Victorian ALP moved a motion at its annual conference on Saturday urging Mr Rudd to amend the Marriage Act and grant same-sex couples the same rights as heterosexual couples.

The report from a Senate committee inquiry into a private bill aimed at equal marriage rights is due on Thursday.

Australian Greens gender spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young, who introduced the bill, said the time had come for Mr Rudd to ignore his own feelings and allow the parliament to start debating.

"It's pretty clear that (Mr Rudd's) own rank and file don't agree with him," Senator Hanson-Young told AAP, referring to the Victorian decision.

"If the prime minister really wants to tackle the issue and prove he's right, he should stop hiding behind his staunch objection to even discussing it."

Mr Rudd said the government was sticking by the Marriage Act.

The ACT laws were a step forward but Senator Hanson-Young said the only way of getting true equality nationwide was through amendments to the act.


Admittedly this is all I've read on the matter but are we really living in a country that is this backwards?

What are the reasons for not giving same sex couples the same rights as heterosexual couples?

Get off my lawn.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 8:09amSubject: Re: In The News Today
cause a majority of the voting public are of christian beliefs.
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NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 1:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
cause a majority of the voting public are of christian beliefs.

I disagree. Isn't the percentage of church going christians in this country actually very small?

Rudd is one of them though.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 1:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
not church going but of christian beliefs.  Think its about 60 or 70 odd percent have some sort of claim to christianity
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NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 1:50pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Think its about 60 or 70 odd percent have some sort of claim to christianity

Wow. That many idiots in this country?

Actually, that's no surprise come to think of it.
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dubbdPosts: 2,314
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 1:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
what about people just being homophobic?
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 1:53pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
you'd think homophobia would decrease with the rise in metro sexuals!
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 10:09pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
looks like the guy who usually shoots airline pilots in the eye with industrial lasers got a new toy.
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NoddyPosts: 8,438
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 10:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Whatever is was, the conspiracy theory nuts are screaming HAARP.

I dare say most of them have been masting furiously to the photos since it happened.
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nugnugPosts: 21
Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 2:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

LULz...

Ecstasy collector's agony over stolen pills

Posted Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:00am AEDT

Thieves have stolen a gigantic collection of ecstasy which was gathered by an enthusiast over two decades and carefully stored in display albums, police said.

A total of 2,400 tablets - collected by a man who said he did not take them but was "fascinated by the pills' logos" - were stolen from Eerbeek, in the east of the Netherlands.

The pills were worth up to 12,000 euros ($19,200) and arranged in around 10 display albums normally used for coins in the man's home, from where they were taken.

Police warned that they included a batch of 40 white and red tablets that could be lethal if taken.

"The collector claims that it was a hobby," police spokesman Bert Top said.

"He is not risking anything at the moment," Mr Top said, but added that authorities were mulling the possibility of prosecuting him.

Police added that collecting ecstasy in such a fashion was prohibited.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/11/2768464.htm
THRESHOLDPosts: 742
Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 3:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh


you have to be pretty smart to ring the cops if that collection was stolen
timbohPosts: 4,977
Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 3:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol.

i um collect pills sometimes.
timbohPosts: 4,977
Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 4:11pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh

THRESHOLDPosts: 742
Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 9:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
rofl
timbohPosts: 4,977
Posted: 13 Dec 2009, 9:46amSubject: Re: In The News Today
rofl
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Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 8:36amSubject: Re: In The News Today
WTF!!!


A Chilean Olympic weightlifter unexpectedly gave birth to a baby boy while she was training in a Brazilian gym, reports said Tuesday.

Elizabeth Poblete, 22, did not know she was pregnant, and called for a doctor when she felt unwell a week ago while hoisting weights in the at the Esporte Clube Pinheiros gym in Sao Paulo, where she lives, the news website Globo.com reported.

She then gave premature birth to the baby, who was doing well and whom she named Eric Jose after she got over her shock. Both mother and son were taken to the hospital Sao Luiz.

The baby, named Eric Jose, weighed just over a kilo at birth, and is stable but still in the hospital's intensive care unit.

The head weight trainer in the gym, Horacio Reis, said: "It was a surprise for me. A week ago I acted as a judge in a competition in Chile and this girl was competing. All went well and she won the competition.

"I could see she was a big girl, round and strong. That's all I noticed."

Doctors calculated Poblete must have been six months pregnant. The training and diet observed by female weightlifters can cause irregular menstruation.

Poblete competed for Chile in the Beijing Olympics last year. She had been seeking to beef up her body to move from the 75-kg category to 85 kg over the past few months.
GlockPosts: 5,399
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 4:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Lol when I saw the headline I imagined it popping out as she was straining to lift a weight or something! crazy
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Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 4:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Lol when I saw the headline I imagined it popping out as she was straining to lift a weight or something! crazy

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CaitPosts: 1,484
Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 7:19amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Monkeys use martial arts on trainer
By staff writers From: news.com.au December 17, 2009 11:37AM Increase Text Size Decrease Text Size Print Email Share Add to Digg Add to del.icio.us Add to Facebook Add to Kwoff Add to Myspace Add to Newsvine What are these? A CHINESE monkey trainer was left red-faced after his group of performers turned on him using martial arts and sticks.

Lo Wung, 42, had taught the monkeys taekwondo as part of their routine, The Sun reports.

But when Mr Wung accidently slipped, his monkeys took advantage and decked him with a kick to the head.

According to The Sun, the gang then swarmed over their master. One monkey even managed to grab a stick  to wack him.
timbohPosts: 4,977
Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 8:26amSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh

want!

would love to see the footage too  laugh
headachePosts: 4,464
Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 9:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I don't know if there is anything I want more in this world than a monkey who can do kung fu.
delPosts: 2,416
Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 10:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
A kung fu midget to spar with them?

Yes please.
headachePosts: 4,464
Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 10:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
laugh

Mini Bruce Lee would be sweet.
ErkPosts: 4,347
Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 12:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

She's a 32 year old blond from Holland.

Women from Holland generally look like this:



I'm willing to bet that she's not too ugly...

bahahaha this lady who is doing the weather forecast is certainly not dutch. Not only are her features more South American/Spanish but the words "El Clima" are certainly not dutch. She certainly is hotness though
timbohPosts: 4,977
Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 9:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
that chimp is a fucking machine. no way would i trust it though, if he snapped you are dead.

I don't know if there is anything I want more in this world than a monkey who can do kung fu.

rofl
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Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 10:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
didnt expect that... sad sad news...

 
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Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 12:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
whoa.. what the fk..

 
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fritzgibbonPosts: 639
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 5:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i'd tend to agree with tobes and the funkster on this argument, if only because the alternative means that having been occasionally physically disciplined by well-balanced, intelligent and emotionally stable parents would mean i fall into the category of "devil-child-menace-to-society" in light of jayar's opinion.

From what i can gather from this argument JR either was not physically reprimanded at any stage of his childhood development (and pontificates with all-too-righteous indignation on the matter) or he was and judges himself to be somehow a twisted and cretinous product of it as a result.

TBH It's hard to tell which.  :E
JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 5:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
wrongibbonz  :E

i was a naughty little shit and occasionally got smacked like much of my generation, but also didnt turn out to be adolf hitler or charles mason :E .  doesnt mean that i also cant be swayed with an argument showing me not smacking is still a social improvement though.

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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 6:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The simple fact is that any study that presumes to be able to show that sparse smacking causes anything different to the absence of smacking is absolutely full of shit. You may be able to show a correlation, but there is no way of proving a cause, as fully grown adults are shaped by so much, thus you have to control for too many things. Having too many things to control for would make any study impossible to do with any reliability. So any study that shows you the errors of smacking is complete guesswork/cum hoc ergo propter hoc bullshit. But, if it helps you sleep at night/status signal your new-age liberal parenting excellence....
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fritzgibbonPosts: 639
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 6:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
wrongibbonz  :E

i was a naughty little shit and occasionally got smacked like much of my generation, but also didnt turn out to be adolf hitler or charles mason :E .  doesnt mean that i also cant be swayed with an argument showing me not smacking is still a social improvement though.

;)

but take into account the history of humankind, and the amount of time our species has had a spoken language, society, social structures and civilisation.

Surely the "naughty corner", "time out" and "No! Bad!" (oh wait, MY bad - no is a negative word!) are more recent constructs than a swift clip over the ear for insubordinance etc. Are you saying that corporal discipline is not in our nature?
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 6:23pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The simple fact is that any study that presumes to be able to show that sparse smacking causes anything different to the absence of smacking is absolutely full of shit. You may be able to show a correlation, but there is no way of proving a cause, as fully grown adults are shaped by so much, thus you have to control for too many things. Having too many things to control for would make any study impossible to do with any reliability. So any study that shows you the errors of smacking is complete guesswork/cum hoc ergo propter hoc bullshit. But, if it helps you sleep at night/status signal your new-age liberal parenting excellence....

This.

There's far too many influences to point to any one thing surely.

It's like all those serial killers/murderers/criminals with the 'abused as a child' excuse. There's just as many who had normal, happy upbringings as well, eg. BTK.
KeyserPosts: 3,447
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 6:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Child abuse is wrong, be it physical, mental, verbal, whatever. There is a big difference between abuse and discipline though. Some parents take too much pleasure in admonishing their children. I often thought the mad grin on my dad's face as he took off his belt to be quite disconcerting. Teef etc.
I was physically reprimanded for bad behaviour, a smack on the arse, wooden spoon, belt sometimes, but I don't hate my parents for it. I know they were just doing what they thought was right to try and get me to correct my behaviour. They didn't try to seriously hurt me. It was more of a scare tactic. Did it work? At the time I knew the last thing I wanted to do was get smacked again, but as an adult I indulge in almost every type of behaviour that my folks would not want me to.
So whilst the punishments made me respect my parents dominance over me as a child, it really didn't help with my long-term behaviour. But that is totally my own choice. I 'broke the laws' once I had left my parents domain. And I sincerely don't think that smacking your child will turn them into a pyscho, or even an angel for that matter. Assaulting them might.
It's the children that have been abused that have somewhat of an excuse when they go off the rails. Parents that love you will not turn you into a menace to society. Parents that don't, they have the opportunity to plant seeds of hate and violence in your brain. If you turn into a serial-killer, mass-murderer, etc, for the most part it is the individuals decision. Too much blame is being shifted around these days. Yes, there are mentally ill, those that have had their minds fractured by abusive parents etc, but if someone decides to shoot up their school, for the most part it's probably because they felt like doing it, not because Daddy smacked his bum as a 5 year old.
Take responsibilty for your own actions.
As for smack or not smack... who cares? If you're a decent parent you won't be hurting your child either way. It's the parents that shouldn't have been having children in the first place that are the problem. I have a theory that parents who don't give a fuck about their children harm their child's opportunity for a successful life more then parents that do. I am happy to accept donations so I can conduct scientific experimentation on this matter. 10 bucks will get you a 2 minute phone-captured video of me laying into the 10 year old I have under my roof with a cat-of-nine-tails.







Oh yeah...    :E
JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 6:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The simple fact is that any study that presumes to be able to show that sparse smacking causes anything different to the absence of smacking is absolutely full of shit. You may be able to show a correlation, but there is no way of proving a cause, as fully grown adults are shaped by so much, thus you have to control for too many things. Having too many things to control for would make any study impossible to do with any reliability. So any study that shows you the errors of smacking is complete guesswork/cum hoc ergo propter hoc bullshit. But, if it helps you sleep at night/status signal your new-age liberal parenting excellence....

LOL
sorry toby, i didnt realise that
A) you had any qualification in statistics analysis
B) you were also a parent who had done their background reading to make up your mind on such matters
C) that labelling someone who has done their best to educate themselves with the best knowledge to date as new-age liberal
D) there was a libertarian view on child discipline
made you an expert

putting my point forward is not the same as saying my position is the only one right, something you dont seem to understand the subtlety of once again. im not so stupid to consider my application of parenting ideals is going to be the single influencing factor in how my children grow up, but because i didnt happen to mention this in a 100 word post, you try to chastise me? christ man, dig deeper.

on said owned note, i may as well just vacate the discussion, ive been proved to have no idea.
keep on smackin' then :E
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 5 Jan 2010, 7:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
A) Is a logical fallacy, in fact two.....Aside from that, I know a shit load about logical analysis of data, and it happens to be the subject I am most naturally talented at.

B) Logical fallacy.....Plus I don't need to be a parent to read.......Plus I didn't actually say which side of the hitting/no hitting dichotomy I fall on. If I give something 0 utility that doesn't actually mean I am for it.

C) There is quite obviously a correlation between parental pacifism and new-age/progressive idealism. That said I was somewhat tongue-in-cheek with that last one (I still believe this is all a big subconcious status signalling excercise for you though).

D) There isn't one. Well not one on hitting as such, Rothbard goes deeply in to child freedoms, but it's complete crap and easily the worst part of a mediocre book.

Don't cop out either, putting your opinion forward is exactly the same as saying you have a preference (the words right and wrong have fuck all to do with normative ethics, but you can't use that as your wriggle space) for one side of the sparse hitting/no hitting debate. My point was that you spoke of studies which claim that even sparse hitting can be worse for children, which can not be proven in a study, it can only be rationalised. I at no time made a point that either side was right or wrong, in fact I went to great lengths to say much the opposite. Which one of us doesn't understand nuance again?

I also didn't claim that you weren't aware that many things shaped a child, I claimed that you ignored/were not cognisant of the fact that this makes studies in to the field you chose to debate impossible.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 8:59amSubject: Re: In The News Today
special K is on the money. (imo). discipline is necessary and whether its through the naughty corner or the wooden spoon its still discipline.  I think you can do just as much damage locking your kid in the cupboard for two hours and calling it the naughty corner as you can by cracking the little fucker on the arse.  severity is what does the big damage. a smack for fucking up is different to kicking your kid across the room with your steel caps!
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 2:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
My point was that you spoke of studies which claim that even sparse hitting can be worse for children, which can not be proven in a study, it can only be rationalised.

splitting hairs much?
all i was trying to point out was that of all the studies i'd read, theyd been unanimous in saying that smacking was not good in any circumstance, so was kind of curious to read of something otherwise. do you really need to try and dissect it more than that??

Melvin: there are a myriad of ways of disciplining a child that dont involve physically hitting or psychologically shaming a child. discipline does not equal smacking. smacking is just one form of discipline.


anyway, its too bigger (and touchy) for a subject to be dealt with in anywhere near enough of the level required here.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 5:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Melvin: there are a myriad of ways of disciplining a child that dont involve physically hitting or psychologically shaming a child. discipline does not equal smacking. smacking is just one form of discipline.
anyway, its too bigger (and touchy) for a subject to be dealt with in anywhere near enough of the level required here.

I dont think discipline = smacking i agree it is just one form of discipline. Only I dont think i have the right to tell others how to discipline their children(I'm not at all saying that you are telling others how to) I think it is a completely individual decision. everyone has their own personal opinion and choice.  So here is maybe one of the best places to discuss it.  And just as that discussion which everyone has an opinion on, which no one is right...........   Shit your right this should be in the religion thread!
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LeezeeThe right honourable
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Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 5:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Should read there are myriad ways of disciplining...

Main Entry: 1myr·i·ad
Pronunciation: \ˈmir-ē-əd\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek myriad-, myrias, from myrioi countless, ten thousand
Date: 1555

1 : ten thousand
2 : a great number <a myriad of ideas>
usage Recent criticism of the use of myriad as a noun, both in the plural form myriads and in the phrase a myriad of, seems to reflect a mistaken belief that the word was originally and is still properly only an adjective. As the entries here show, however, the noun is in fact the older form, dating to the 16th century. The noun myriad has appeared in the works of such writers as Milton (plural myriads) and Thoreau (a myriad of), and it continues to occur frequently in reputable English. There is no reason to avoid it.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myriad
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 6:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
As much as it is perfectly acceptable, the fact that its original synonyms are all purely adjectival, and its meaning makes it an adjective, means it shits me in noun form as well, but unfortunately descriptivism is the way of the world. The laws of language are too often irrational.

splitting hairs much?
No! The fact that you are unable to infer anything from worldly experience means that the only rationalisations are destined to be the personal biases of the speaker/writer. All study data, or anecdotal data from life experience will be far too noisy. The fact that you aren't aware of the distinctly large difference between forms of knowledge concerns me.

all i was trying to point out was that of all the studies i'd read, theyd been unanimous in saying that smacking was not good in any circumstance, so was kind of curious to read of something otherwise.

This is what concerns me the most. The study this woman completed does not necessarily state a contrary point. You are confusing correlation with causation still. It is both possible for smacking to have only negative effects on children, and for the children of smackers to be more successful and happy. Maybe there is a correlation between smackers and intelligence; maybe a correlation between smackers and certain positive parenting attributes that lead to success and happiness, even if smacking slightly counteracts that.

Although I have no way of proving this, my personal theory would be that, assuming this study is correct, there is a positive correlation between driven and determined parents and smacking. Thus smacking could make no difference and yet the children of parents that smack are more likely to benefit from this correlative personality trait.

For example, the famous argument that children who are breastfed are on average more intelligent and happy. Science has found no positive effects of breastfeeding in the long run when controlled for other noise, but there is a direct correlation between the likelihood of a parent breastfeeding and the parent being both more nurturing and more intelligent than a non breastfeeding parent. Thus breastfeeding is not the cause, even though there is a correlation that comes up in basically all studies that do not control for personality traits of the parent.

If you continue to confuse correlation with causation a large number of studies are just going to confuse you.





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FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 8:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
If you continue to confuse correlation with causation a large number of studies are just going to confuse you.

Yup.

I guarantee in 5 years time Jayar is going to be on the "video games cause violence" and "intrawebs = childpron!" bandwagons without feeling a twang of irony or hypocrisy.
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Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 10:23pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yup.

I guarantee in 5 years time Jayar is going to be on the "video games cause violence" and "intrawebs = childpron!" bandwagons without feeling a twang of irony or hypocrisy.


cos he read it in some books  (which were marketed to entertain his audience nonetheless)


/Jayar-bashing-bandwagon
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fritzgibbonPosts: 639
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 11:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
cos he read it in some books  (which were marketed to entertain his audience nonetheless)

That's what i was thinking. One could just as earnestly state "all the studies i've read, authored by the world's most renowned theologians unanimously support the existence of god."   :facepalm:
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 6 Jan 2010, 11:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
/Jayar-bashing-bandwagon

I've heard architect is just another name for nazi.

Oh wait, that's a compliment. Got your back Jayar!
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 6:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's what i was thinking. One could just as earnestly state "all the studies i've read, authored by the world's most renowned theologians unanimously support the existence of god."   :facepalm:

Don't be ridiculous, theologians are far less dogmatic than sociologists.
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 1:09pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I guarantee in 5 years time Jayar is going to be on the "video games cause violence" and "intrawebs = childpron!" bandwagons without feeling a twang of irony or hypocrisy.

man, your fishing attempts lately have been pretty weak, but still you cast your line further and further out. for the record, i believe video games only cause nerdity. :E


anyway, discussions on causality vs correlation are still rather moot without me providing you a full list of the range of books ive read and for you to then read same and check every footnote yourself and then make up your mind (until then its not much more than your own speculation) though given how quick it seems that i can be told i have little or no idea or understanding on this particular subject means im not exactly likely to bother either.
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John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 1:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
No one listens to rangaz anyway.
Get off my lawn.
AbiPosts: 13
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 1:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I agree with Jayar on this, although I have done very little reading on the subject.

I used to think that when I had kids I would use some physical punishment but now that I have had my daughter there is no way I could ever smack her. There is an intrinsic trust that a child has that a parent will care for them and I think that you break that trust or undermine it when you hurt them, even if it is just a little smack. And when I see other parents smacking it definitely makes me feel uncomfortable. But I still believe that it is their right to make whatever parenting chioces they choose (within reason of course).

Don't get me wrong I can't stand bratty kids and I see a lot of them in my line of work. I am very strict with my daughter; I will not be the parent of a bratty child, but there are so many other and often more effective ways of disciplining a child.

Being a teacher I have learned to use a variety of behaviour management techniques and they work just as well at home as in the classroom.

I don't think that it is ok to cause someone else pain and we shouldn't be teaching our kids that it's ok. Often the kids that hit at school to solve a problem are hit at home. They can't differentiate between an adult hitting them and them hitting another child or adult! I've been hit by kids for goodness sakes! They think that if mum and/or dad hit then they can too. Not only that but they think it is a good way to solve a problem or get their way.
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 7:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
anyway, discussions on causality vs correlation are still rather moot without me providing you a full list of the range of books ive read and for you to then read same and check every footnote yourself and then make up your mind (until then its not much more than your own speculation) though given how quick it seems that i can be told i have little or no idea or understanding on this particular subject means im not exactly likely to bother either.

AAARRGGHHH! Discussions of such are not in any way, shape, or form, moot. The fact of the matter is that it is glaringly obvious that all data is far too noisy to glean cause from. No amount of footnotes from studies can show otherwise. This is true of the majority of sociological studies, though. This is why it will always be a soft science. Environmental noise can be and is responsible for huge margins of error in correlation alone for many of the studies in social sciences; things like the amount of disparity in socio-economic and cultural living standards within a sample base can account for differences as big as +-0.40+ in extent of correlation in honestly conducted studies of the same event, trait etc.. Assuming you can render cause from something as cluttered by other events over the span of a lifetime as sparse smacking is patently ridiculous. I am somewhat intrigued by the studies you have read that show a certain correlation; mostly as to how weak or strong the correlation is. I would personally be quite shocked if any well conducted studies showed much more than a remarkably weak correlation between sparse, non-abusive, smacking and future unhappiness/lack of success/emotional issues etc., but I would happily read anything about it.

I have never denied that you put in an exemplary level of study apropos a subject of such importance to you. I have no doubt that some of those studies would have gone to great lengths to ensure purity of results, there is just no way of proving anything remotely in the realm of cause from any of them. Just as this latest one cannot show cause either.

I'm still not sure if you think I am speculating that smacking is > or = the absence of smacking; if you do, let me make it clear that I am not. I admit complete ignorance as to the long run effects of either, all I am saying is that everybody will remain as eternally ignorant of the answer as I am. It is beyond the scope of human reckoning.

Lastly, for my least ad hominem effort ever in sustained debate with you, you really are taking far too much of this to heart. I haven't admonished you as a person, or made out as if you are peculiar in regards to your ignorance; I, in fact, admire the amount of research you have put in to all the aspects of parenting. I could learn a lot from you in that regard. There is quite simply one matter to which I currently demur, and I am particularly certain of its truth.
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 7:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Aaaargh indeed. For fucks sake, im not even going to bother reading that speil in full, although im sure i know what tiny point you are trying to rally.

Once Again: point is i decided that with what seemed like such an important role i was about to play, seeing im no 'expert' on ths subject having personally done no controlled tests etc, i'd do some research to find out what the current theories are, based on whatever understanding can be gleaned at this point in time, based on what i deemed most important in the raising of my children. I read numerous books and websites, and continue to do so, and have taken my path of action based on what i thought made the most convincing argument. nothing more, nothing less. no mention of proof whatsoever.

jeebus, i cant go and re-test said studies any more than you could. you just make a decision based on your own sense of logic and personal evaluation. did i ever even hint at the word of 'proof'? so what was your point again?

actually, lets just leave it there before people start pulling their eyeballs out with spoons and this becomes a separate parenting thread which really isnt warranted on AM imo. :)
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 8:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
seeing im no 'expert' on ths subject having personally done no controlled tests etc
jeebus, i cant go and re-test said studies any more than you could. so what was your point again?

My point is that the people who have conducted these tests have no more idea of the 'truth' than you or I do. We are all equally expert.

you just make a decision based on your own sense of logic/emotions/temperament/genetic make-up/weltanschauung, all offered 'evidence' is purely post hoc rationalisations for split-second intuitions.

We are in perfectly harmonious agreement then; my work here is done.
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 9:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
We are all equally expert.

See I call bullshit on that.
I wont profess to know more on a subject than someone who has spent countless hours in the field anymore than i expect you to be more of an 'expert' on architecture than i am. Opinions are one thing (like arseholes as the saying goes). 'Truth' wasnt mentioned anywhere previous to this, so i dont understand where on earth you are going with this.


fuck, i feel like scooping my brains out through my eye sockets before i smash my head against a brick wall. what a pointless roundabout discussion this lamed out into. mods, just sin-bin ban me for 24 hours ok? i really shouldve known better. :(
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 7 Jan 2010, 10:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I didn't claim to know as much about architecture as you. I obviously know far less. This is one matter that can't be analysed through studies, architecture is a field, one with many matters that can be analysed through studies. The two have no relation.

'Cum hoc ergo propter hoc' is arguably the most wide-spread, pernicious, logical fallacy in existence. It routinely screws culture and society, and has been responsible for its fair share of bad social programs and even deaths. Doesn't seem pointless to rail against any instance of it to me. (Before you point it out, I am aware that this is a particularly innocuous and harmless instance of it, and I'm not claiming you are harming anything)

This argument has become stale now though, so I'm over it if you are.


"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
unregisturdPosts: 427
Posted: 8 Jan 2010, 3:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
This argument has become stale now though, so I'm over it if you are.


Sod that, I demand you guys settle this with a fish slapping contest ala Monty Python!
99 predicaments...
KeyserPosts: 3,447
Posted: 8 Jan 2010, 8:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I demand these guys settle this with a kid-slapping contest.
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 8 Jan 2010, 9:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I demand these guys settle this with a kid-slapping contest.

This has great potential as a spectator sport IMO.
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judas kissPosts: 488
Posted: 9 Feb 2010, 2:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
ass with an red hot AIDS infested crab rake imo.

 I bet the cunt double dips his party pies at the work xmas show too.

We had no party pies for our work xmas show when I worked there icon_cry
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GlockPosts: 5,688
Posted: 9 Feb 2010, 4:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
We had no party pies for our work xmas show when I worked there icon_cry

Tomato sauce looks too much like blood I reckon, Atkinson probably thinks it could make some of the workers go postal. teef
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,033
Posted: 9 Feb 2010, 4:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Pakistani ambassador rejected because his name is NSFW in Arabic
from FP Passport by David Kenner

Despite having served for years as a distinguished Pakistani diplomat, Akbar Zeb reportedly cannot receive accreditation as Pakistan's ambassador to Saudi Arabia. The reason, apparently, has nothing to do with his credentials, and everything to do with his name -- which, in Arabic, translates to "biggest dick":

In Saudi Arabia, size does count.

A high level Pakistani diplomat has been rejected as Ambassador of Saudi Arabia because his name, Akbar Zib, equates to "Biggest Dick" in Arabic. Saudi officials, apparently overwhelmed by the idea of the name, put their foot down and gave the idea of his being posted there, the kibosh.

According to this Arabic-language article in the Arab Times, Pakistan had previously floated Zeb's name as ambassador to the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, only to have him rejected for the same reason. One can only assume that submitting Zeb's name to a number of Arabic-speaking countries is some unique form of punishment designed by the Pakistani Foreign Ministry -- or the result of a particularly egregious cockup.
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Posts: 948
Posted: 9 Feb 2010, 6:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 16 Mar 2010, 7:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
But Clarke had a lot more money, which seems like the sort of thing which would be important to Lara Bingle.
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FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 1:07pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Science proves all hippies are thieving, lying fuckwits

When Al Gore was caught running up huge energy bills at home at the same time as lecturing on the need to save electricity, it turns out that he was only reverting to "green" type.

According to a study, when people feel they have been morally virtuous by saving the planet through their purchases of organic baby food, for example, it leads to the "licensing [of] selfish and morally questionable behaviour", otherwise known as "moral balancing" or "compensatory ethics".

Do Green Products Make Us Better People is published in the latest edition of the journal Psychological Science. Its authors, Canadian psychologists Nina Mazar and Chen-Bo Zhong, argue that people who wear what they call the "halo of green consumerism" are less likely to be kind to others, and more likely to cheat and steal. "Virtuous acts can license subsequent asocial and unethical behaviours," they write.

The pair found that those in their study who bought green products appeared less willing to share with others a set amount of money than those who bought conventional products. When the green consumers were given the chance to boost their money by cheating on a computer game and then given the opportunity to lie about it – in other words, steal – they did, while the conventional consumers did not. Later, in an honour system in which participants were asked to take money from an envelope to pay themselves their spoils, the greens were six times more likely to steal than the conventionals.

Mazar and Zhong said their study showed that just as exposure to pictures of exclusive restaurants can improve table manners but may not lead to an overall improvement in behaviour, "green products do not necessarily make for better people". They added that one motivation for carrying out the study was that, despite the "stream of research focusing on identifying the 'green consumer'", there was a lack of understanding into "how green consumption fits into people's global sense of responsibility and morality and [how it] affects behaviours outside the consumption domain".

The pair said their findings surprised them, having thought that just as "exposure to the Apple logo increased creativity", according to a recent study, "given that green products are manifestations of high ethical standards and humanitarian considerations, mere exposure" to them would "activate norms of social responsibility and ethical conduct".

Dieter Frey, a social psychologist at the University of Munich, said the findings fitted patterns of human behaviour. "At the moment in which you have proven your credentials in a particular area, you tend to allow yourself to stray elsewhere," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/15/green-consumers-more-likely-steal
LeezeeThe right honourable
Posts: 3,309
Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 1:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Haha cool!

I didn't know about the Apple logo thing.

Fascinating.
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 1:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1463018

Their results didn't surprise them at all. Their results fit their pre-conceived notions of morality. I'm far too sick to start with a dissection of their method, but they do nothing to control for other possible, in fact likely, correlations that will colour the data. I'm not about to call all the studies of priming in to question, but that is not the controversial area of this study. The main point, I'd rather mark as an area of interest until someone puts in a better effort.
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FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 3:35pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1463018

Their results didn't surprise them at all. Their results fit their pre-conceived notions of morality. I'm far too sick to start with a dissection of their method, but they do nothing to control for other possible, in fact likely, correlations that will colour the data. I'm not about to call all the studies of priming in to question, but that is not the controversial area of this study. The main point, I'd rather mark as an area of interest until someone puts in a better effort.

You should realise by now I don't even consider psychology a real science... ;)

Still, it's fun to stir up the greenie hippy jerks :p
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Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 3:50pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I think it has nothing to do with the fact that they are buying green products,in the study there are far too many conflicting variables, such as background, socio-economic status and personal values & morals which effect the outcome of the participant's choices.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 4:35pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I think it has nothing to do with the fact that they are buying green products,in the study there are far too many conflicting variables, such as background, socio-economic status and personal values & morals which effect the outcome of the participant's choices.


How do you think these things effect one group more than the other? Just curious.
JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 10:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
RECENT news held an unpleasant surprise for the world's conservatives and religious. Luckily for them, they were probably too dumb to understand it.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/unhappy-lefties-tend-to-be-too-clever-by-half/story-e6frg6zo-1225842050686

A long-time study by the London School of Economics has revealed that being politically conservative or religious goes hand in hand with lower intelligence. The more respondents identified as left-wing or atheist, the higher their IQ. Conversely, conservative or religious convictions correlated with lower intelligence.

The differences were too large to be random. While young adults who thought of themselves as "very progressive" scored 105 points on average, their "very conservative" contemporaries managed only 95 points on the IQ scale. The gap between the atheists and the faithful was smaller, but the non-believers still beat the religious by 103 to 97.

Satoshi Kanazawa, a psychologist at the LSE, has a simple explanation for these patterns.

He believes that more intelligent people are better able to respond to new problems and thus willing to question traditional beliefs and values.

Unfortunately, he does not say whether this is, in fact, an intelligent strategy. True conservatives, at least the barely literate among them, can argue that it is not a sign of great cleverness to fiddle with time-tested institutions such as property rights or civility.

In the same way, we may well wonder about the wisdom behind another of Kanazawa's findings. In previous times, he says, we only cared for friends and families. But the more intelligent among us had left this ancient pattern behind to reach a higher evolutionary level. Lefties are now "caring about millions of total strangers and giving up money to make sure that those strangers will do well".

This may well explain the Left's support of the welfare state and foreign aid.

Yet, at least in historical terms, there is no example of a people becoming prosperous because strangers wanted them to be. Again, conservatives would intuitively understand this, although they may not be able to put this thought into a complete sentence.

The LSE findings may not cheer up conservatives but they don't need cheering up anyway. According to a study by the Aarhus School of Business in Denmark, personal happiness is far more widespread among conservatives than among lefties.

And yet another study, this time by the University of Florida, reveals that conservatives also have higher incomes than the unhappy left-wing intelligentsia.

Considering all this evidence, perhaps being a leftie is not such a clever idea after all.

Oliver Marc Hartwich is a research fellow at the Centre for Independent Studies.



When Al Gore was caught running up huge energy bills at home at the same time as lecturing on the need to save electricity, it turns out that he was only reverting to "green" type.

lol, nice 'study'! :E
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Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 6:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The Atheism thing is clearly explained by the contrarian effect (N.B. it goes by another name, but I can't remember it): to hold a view that differs from cultural norms usually implies some facility for critical thought, thus making it much less likely that particular subgroups will be populated by those well below the mean, and slightly less likely that they will be populated by those somewhat below the mean.

That The Left is, on average, more intelligent than The Right is very well documented. I would assume this is only going to be exacerbated by the fact that many of those who are the better thinkers of the radical left are probably going to be far more at home with the tag "very progressive" than those on the reactionary/radical right will be to accept the tag "very conservative".
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Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 3:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
the studies of priming

big part of it imho... i guess regardless of whether one sees certain discplines (academic or otherwise) as relevant, who conducts the studies, who funds the studies, the personal background of the study/target group, how the role of the target group in a study was presented to them and the overall vested interests of all involved...
there will always be some fundamental truths about anything in humanity's existence...
- what the emotional objective is ( fear, doubt etc. )
- how the emotional objective is used to present the results ( keeping things "business as usual" for the people with the most vested interests to lose )
- why the emotional objective is used/valued instead of the logical, rational, ego-centric or socio-centric objectives
- when the emotional objective is presented ( i.e. using pandemics, wars and civil unrest in a calculated manner to justify for a certain conglomerate's existence )

Reading through the comments posted on the link to the articles, there is sufficient room for re-contemplation... and further discussion. However, if it's the petty mission of some to use these findings as a way to feed their seratonin levels,  i've already wasted our time :wave:
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 12:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jilted Javan teen chops off penis and tosses it down a well

AN Indonesian teenager chopped off his penis and tossed it down a well after learning his girlfriend intended to marry another man.

The 19-year-old from a village in Central Java was lucky to survive the self surgery, health authorities said.

"He arrived at the hospital last Thursday in critical condition from blood loss," Cilacap General Hospital Director Sugeng Budi Susanto told local media.

"Cutting off a penis can be fatal."

Doctors were unable to re-attach the dismembered member because villagers could not find it.

The teen spent several days in intensive care but is now in recovery, Mr Sugeng said.

He had not spoken to anyone about the incident, Mr Sugeng said.

"He's still too shocked and embarrassed to talk to or see anyone."



http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/jilted-javan-teen-chops-of-penis-and-tosses-it-down-a-well/story-e6frea7u-1225847471155


honestly.. what the fk??
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 1:00pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jilted Javan teen chops off penis and tosses it down a well

AN Indonesian teenager chopped off his penis and tossed it down a well after learning his girlfriend intended to marry another man.

The 19-year-old from a village in Central Java was lucky to survive the self surgery, health authorities said.

"He arrived at the hospital last Thursday in critical condition from blood loss," Cilacap General Hospital Director Sugeng Budi Susanto told local media.

"Cutting off a penis can be fatal."

Doctors were unable to re-attach the dismembered member because villagers could not find it.

The teen spent several days in intensive care but is now in recovery, Mr Sugeng said.

He had not spoken to anyone about the incident, Mr Sugeng said.

"He's still too shocked and embarrassed to talk to or see anyone."



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honestly.. what the fk??

*clears throat* "I guess he cocked up." *'ba doom tish' followed by canned laughter*
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 1:32pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:

Poor fucker, or poor no fucker in his instance I guess.  
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 2:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Brewer wins right to market F**king beer

    A BREWER has won his fight to market a beer named after the Austrian village of F**king.

The Sun reported today European Union officials originally rejected the brand "F**king Hell beer" on the grounds that it contained a swear word.

But after the brewery proved the village actually existed, officials were forced to back down.

Brewery spokesman Stefan Fellenberg said: "In German the word for a lager beer is a Helles Beer, so we have also patented the name F**king Hell, which means lager from F**king of course.

"I don't understand why the patents office think of something else. They must have dirty minds."

The village of F**king, to the north of Salzburg, close to the German border, has been in the headlines in the past, because of its unusual name.

Last year Mayor Franz Meindl complained that tourists were flocking to the village to steal the road signs.

Now it seems the village has tired of fighting its popularity and is set to cash in.

The bizarre name is understood to come from a sixth century noble called Lord Focko, with 'ing' being old German for 'family of'. The German pronunciation is different from the English.

Mr Meindl added: "I am looking forward to getting the first-crate. Until then I'm reserving judgement. But maybe it could be good for local industry."
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 2:24pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's fucking great!
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 2:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
F**king oath!
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Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 11:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I didn't know about the Apple logo thing.

Fascinating.

Too bad for you.. the Apple logo is the only thing missing from your MacBook!
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Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 8:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
"In German the word for a lager beer is a Helles Beer, so we have also patented the name F**king Hell, which means lager from F**king of course.

Actually the German word for lager is, unsurprisingly enough, lager.

Helles Bier is a pale lager.

But I'm just being fucking picky.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 1:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Man fleeing police jumps fence - into prison

US police say a motorist fleeing officers in Cleveland abandoned his car and jumped a fence - landing in what turned out to be a prison yard.

Garfield Heights police say the chase started in that suburb early on Monday over a traffic violation and reached speeds of 145km/h.

Police say that after a race through several communities, the driver and a passenger bolted from the car and headed for a fence.

They apparently did not realise it was on the outside the state women's prison in Cleveland.

They were arrested along with two other passengers who also tried to flee.

AP
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Cucumber in rear was 'failed suicide bid'

A HONG Kong man, taken to the hospital to have a cucumber removed from his bottom, told doctors he inserted it in a suicide attempt.

The Sun reported Chin Wei, 62, said the method was a variation of the Japanese ritual suicide hara-kiri - usually carried out with a sword plunged into one's own stomach. (that's quite a variation  :lol:)

He was found in a pool of blood by his daughter before being rushed to receive medical health.

Medics said a severe tear to the man's anus was not life-threatening.

Read more about the man who tried to kill himself with a cucumber enema at The Sun
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Posted: 1 Apr 2010, 7:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
and the circus continues...


Call to maintain R-rated games ban


AUSTRALIA should keep its ban on R18+ games because children could be damaged by the act of participating in simulated violence and sex, says Guardian for Children Pam Simmons.

The Federal Government is investigating whether the ban should be dropped, which Ms Simmons said would open the country to a range of games depicting domestic violence, rape, murder and torture.

Ms Simmons, who is the woman in charge of protecting the rights of children in SA, said people should understand that watching simulated domestic violence, for example, on a DVD was totally different from getting involved or children watching parents or older siblings getting involved.

"We are talking about high-impact violence including sexual and domestic violence and the game participation in drug use," she said.

"People will say, `what is the difference between the games and violent movies?', and it is the interaction, the getting involved, rather than just watching.

"I am not advocating children watching it either, but they are not just seeing violence in these games, they are participating in it or watching an adult participating it, they are in there playing the game. There was new evidence as recently as two weeks ago showing the link between the actual participation of violence in games and violent behaviour."

Ms Simmons said former Attorney-General Michael Atkinson had been the most vocal critic of the games in Australia and it was too early to tell if any of the other attorneys-general or his replacement, John Rau, would be equally opposed.

Ms Simmons said it would be impossible to make sure only those aged 18 years and over played the games.

"No matter how well we think it will be controlled, we cannot control everything, and there will be situations where children are using the games, watching older siblings or adults playing them," she said.

The gaming industry has been lobbying heavily to overturn the ban, which, in practice, disallows any classification and distribution of games which would otherwise attract an R18+ rating.

Victims of Crime Commissioner Michael O'Connell said while R18+ violence in movies was clearly entertainment, participating in make-believe violence in a game created less empathy for the "victims" involved.

"Participating in make-believe violence does have the potential to minimise the understanding the player has on the effect that violence will have on other people," he said.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/technology/call-to-maintain-r-rated-games-ban/story-e6freaal-1225848234751

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Posted: 1 Apr 2010, 8:42amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Quote
"Participating in make-believe violence does have the potential to minimise the understanding the player has on the effect that violence will have on other people," he said.

so cowboys and indians is out too then?  :facepalm:
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Posted: 1 Apr 2010, 8:46amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What happened to leaving the parenting to the parents?

Fucking hell.

What's next? A ban on wiping your own ass??

The idea of an R18 classification is so that people under the age of 18 can't purchase these games, leaving the responsibility up to the parent.

Might as well filter the internet while we're at it... oh wait...
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Posted: 1 Apr 2010, 1:53pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The idea of an R18 classification is so that people under the age of 18 can't purchase these games, leaving the responsibility up to the parent.

But what about when little Timmy get's nightmares when he plays a game intended for adults, bought for him by his parents. Who are the parents supposed to blame? THEMSELVES?!?!? LUDICROUS!


I wonder if AdelaideNow could actually find someone who doesn't oppose common sense and write an article about them instead.
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Posted: 1 Apr 2010, 2:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah well, couldn't expect this to eventually come to light now, could we (said in a sarcastic tone) ... a bit a clarity was all that was needed, after all the hot-headed behaviour settled...
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/investigation-finds-hacked-emails-contain-no-indication-of-climate-conspiracy/story-e6frea9c-1225848226590
"Investigation finds hacked emails contain no indication of climate 'conspiracy'"

"...A BRITISH investigation into the e-mails leaked from one of the world's leading climate research centers has largely vindicated the scientists involved.

The House of Commons' Science and Technology Committee said today that they'd seen no evidence to support charges that the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit or its director, Phil Jones, had tampered with data or perverted the peer review process to exaggerate the threat of global warming - two of the most serious criticisms levied against the climatologist and his colleagues.

In their report, the committee said that, as far as it was able to ascertain, " the scientific reputation of Professor Jones and CRU remains intact," adding that nothing in the more than 1000 stolen e-mails, or the controversy kicked up by their publication, challenged scientific consensus that "global warming is happening and that it is induced by human activity."...
The 14-member committee's investigation is one of three launched after the dissemination, in November, of e-mails and data stolen from the research unit.

The private e-mails appeared to show scientists berating "skeptics" in sometimes intensely personal attacks, discussing ways to shield their data from public records laws, and discussing ways to keep non-scientific skeptic  articles out of peer-reviewed scientific journals.

One that attracted particular media attention was Jones' reference to a "trick" that could be used to "hide the decline" of temperatures.

The e-mails' publication ahead of the Copenhagen climate change summit sparked an online furor, with skeptics of man-made climate change declaring the e-mails' publication "Climategate" and claiming them as proof that the science behind global warming had been exaggerated.

The lawmakers said they decided to investigate due to "the serious implications for U.K. science."

Phil Willis, the committee's chairman, said of the e-mails that "there's no denying that some of them were pretty appalling."

But the committee found no evidence of anything beyond "a blunt refusal to share data," adding that the idea that Jones was part of a conspiracy to hide evidence that weakened the case for global warming was clearly wrong.

In a briefing to journalists ahead of the report's release, Willis said the controversy would ultimately help buttress the case for global warming by forcing the University of East Anglia - and other research institutions - to stop hoarding their data.

"The winner in the end will be climate science itself," he said.

Jones, who stepped down temporarily as chief of the climate research unit about a week after the e-mail scandal broke, emerged the clear winner.

The committee expressed sympathy with Jones, whom Willis said had been made a scapegoat for larger problems within the climate science community.

"The focus on Professor Jones and the CRU has been largely misplaced," the report said.

But the lawmakers did criticise the way Jones and his colleagues handled freedom of information requests, saying scientists could have saved themselves a lot of trouble by aggressively publishing all their data instead of worrying about how to stonewall their critics.

Lawmakers stressed that their report - which was written after only a single day of oral testimony - did not cover all the issues and would not be as in-depth as the two other inquiries into the e-mail scandal that are still pending.

One of the two pending inquiries is being headed by former civil servant Muir Russell, who is looking into whether scientists, including Jones, fudged data or manipulated the peer review process. It also is examining the extent to which university followed applicable freedom of information laws. That report is due to report sometime this spring.

Geologist Ernest Oxburgh is leading a parallel investigation into the integrity of the science itself, one staffed by academics including Kerry Emanuel, a professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Huw Davies, a former president of the International Association of Meteorology & Atmospheric Science.

The committee said that climate scientists had to be much more open in future - for example by publishing all their data, including raw data and the software programs used to interpret them, to the Internet. Willis said there was far too much money at stake not to be completely transparent.

"Governments across the world are spending trillions of pounds, or trillions of dollars, on mitigating climate change. The science has got to be irreproachable," he said.

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Posted: 9 May 2010, 6:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Why Not? Weight Classes for Prisons
Bryan Caplan

Why do we have separate men's and women's prisons?  You don't have to envision the alternative for long to have your answer: Co-ed prisons would be a living hell of rape and brutality. Or perhaps I should say: Even more of a living hell of rape and brutality, because that already describes single-sex prisons today.

I'm not raising this issue to ruin Mothers' Day.  It's a lead-in to a serious proposal for prison reform.  Once you know how to make prisons even worse, you know how to make them better.  Namely: Reduce the variance of strength and aggression within single-sex prisons by separating prisoners into something like "weight classes." 

In boxing, heavyweights don't fight featherweights.  It's not a fair fight.  But in prison, heavyweights serve their time side-by-side with featherweights.  A simple remedy for rape and brutality, then, is split up prisoners by size and strength.  You could assign the various classes of prisoners to different wings.  Or if that's too logistically difficult, you could assign each prison a weight class, then reallocate existing prisoners. 

Admittedly, we already have prisons for different kinds of offenses - minimum security, maximum security, and everything in between.  Like separating men and women, this probably makes the prison experience a little less hellish.  But there's still a long way to go, and my proposal seems like an obvious and cheap improvement over the status quo.

Note: The "weight class system" targets prisoner-on-prisoner abuse.  It has no direct effect on the comparable problem of authority-on-prisoner abuse.  Even there, though, my reform would do some good.  It's probably easier for a guard to get away with raping a prisoner in an environment where prisoners are raping each other on a regular basis. 

On the surface, it seems like weight classes for prisons should appeal to people from many different ideological standpoints.  Unless you tacitly favor prison rape (perhaps as an extra deterrent in an overly forgiving legal system?), it's hard to see the downside.  Still, I don't expect my proposal to sweep the world.  Does anything other than status quo bias stand in its way?
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Posted: 9 May 2010, 8:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
this is a simple statement of an empirical economic truth.

Ive also ready elsewhere that yields from subsistence farming is often higher per hectare, not just because of less waste but better crop rotations, diversity etc.

But again, we could go on about lies, damn lies and statistics and ignoring definitions of what constitutes the difference between effectively or badly managed farms at all levels, but it would be rather pointless. I just take issue with that kind of poorly written press release for Monsanto "article" that would have you believe small = bad. Frankly, I buy food as local as possible to reduce food miles and not at Coles/Woolworths who fuck over local farmers ~ nothing to do with saving the hungry in Africa per se, so its a pretty lame strawman put-down.
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Posted: 9 May 2010, 8:52pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oh for fucks sake, the man teaches International Agriculture and Environmental Policy at Wellesley and Harvard, he isn't a simple corporate shill. I'd also posit he knows a damn sight more than both of us about every single argument regarding this matter. He isn't trying to get people to stop buying organic food per se, just pointing out that one of the main arguments in favour of a movement towards such things does not hold up in the face of evidence, he certainly isn't particularly worried what we buy here, his concern is what options are open to Africa. Yes his main thesis is that the illegality of GM crops in Africa is actually serving to prolong world hunger, which yes, leads to the uncomfortable position that some Big Ag. companies could have a large market share there if those laws are changed, but the alternative demonstrably can not be worked. At no point has he ever stated that his vision would be easy, or the fact that Big Ag. could draw advantages is necessarily a good thing; but it turns out when solving one of the worlds most infamously intractable problems you may have to ask some difficult questions and consider some ugly options. Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, it would help to consider some new options, just for the sake of knowing you have considered all rational possibilities without just throwing up ideological screens prior to deeper consideration. His arguments don't have to be adopted, but they can certainly be considered and learnt from.

He is absolutely right that it is impossible for Africa to rise above subsistence without technology. Whether his answer to this problem is correct or not doesn't matter so much, you can at least take from his work that where we go after learning this truth is likely the most important question to be asked for the future of "food insecurity".
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Posted: 10 May 2010, 1:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He isn't trying to get people to stop buying organic food per se, just pointing out that one of the main arguments in favour of a movement towards such things does not hold up in the face of evidence

ha, and you dont think the title and tone of the piece was in the least bit patronising? the title alone is what i'd expect funky J to write immediately preceeding 'fucking hippies' or something else as predictable like 'melbourne rocks' :E

knowing a lot of people who choose to shop locally, organically and/or fair trade, it is only the latter issue that is even vaguely related to 'feeding the starving millions', but even then at a consumer level has probably less impact that choosing non-GM and low food-mile foods while cutting woolies and coles out of the equation. cant say ive EVER heard organics being held up as some saviour for the third world, but thats anecdotal... anyway better to have some idea and purpose about what you are eating and why than just to buy the easiest to get crap because its convenient and cheaper imo.

leaving this here before it spirals out of control again...
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Posted: 10 May 2010, 1:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The title is certainly bait material, but then I've seen famous writers blog about watching their work get re-titled in horrible ways by editors before (not saying this happened, just pointing out how trivial a title is, especially to something appearing in a popular magazine), so I'd rather just pay attention to the substantial message contained within.

To be honest, I'd rather someone comment on the Bryan Caplan piece. I think it is a perfectly logical argument and would like to know any reasons it shouldn't be adopted.. Apart from status quo bias of course.
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Posted: 10 May 2010, 7:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
To be honest, I'd rather someone comment on the Bryan Caplan piece. I think it is a perfectly logical argument and would like to know any reasons it shouldn't be adopted..

no argument here.
its not exactly the worlds best kept secret that many inmates come out worse than when they went in. personal grievances from victims of crime aside, prison would work better if it wasnt some purely punitive experience. its not cheap sending people to jail, so even from an economic point of view, the current system is not doing any of us any favours.
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FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 10 May 2010, 8:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
This is not taking a side, this is a simple statement of an empirical economic truth.

What a load of shit.

You and I both know there's no such thing.

Of course subsistence farming is going to suck when you look at it on a global level - farming in general sucks on a global level, and always has - at least since the time of absolute rulers in the Middle East taking farms as the "Kings Land", and people having to grow food not for themselves and their immediate community but for the upper classes.

Farming has been terrible for the environment and feeding "the people" because of the demands of the upper classes.

That's what fucked up Africa - any fertile land was captured by the Pharaohs and later the Romans, and used to fuel huge war economies. Non native plants were introduced to produce oil and wine, not food nor feed, and the fertile land was over farmed leading to desertification of Northern Africa.

Look at any famine that occurred throughout history - it was due to not allowing people access to the produce of their labours more than anything else that caused the greatest problem, not the what nor the way they farmed.

And of course you need roads, cheaper fertiliser, electricity and water, but once you have those things you return to subsistence farming.

Sheesh. Even a moron like Jayar can figure that out.

The fact he completely ignores the history of farming in his "analysis" is clearly taking a side.
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Posted: 10 May 2010, 9:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sheesh. Even a moron like Jayar can figure that out.

 :lol:

I'll respond to the rest when I'm not drunk.
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 10 May 2010, 9:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Actually, I probably won't, as, even on a minute scale, getting "Watsoned" is no fun.

I'll give you that stating Paarlberg was taking no normative side was hyperbole, pure and simple. Still, the substantial point behind his following rhetoric was a simple empirical economic truth. I'm sympathetic to the argument that they need access to other technology instead. I would argue 'as well as' would be more useful; I would also argue, that on a practical level, Paarlberg's suggestion is more immediately efficacious. Seeing as I'm an anti-deontologist/believer in Hume's guillotine, I don't actually believe in anything but the practical, so it has its attraction.

I'd like to hear your argument for why you return to "subsistence" farming, before I proceed much further.

The part I refuse to delve in to here are the reasons for Africa's current state of affairs.
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FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 11 May 2010, 5:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'd like to hear your argument for why you return to "subsistence" farming, before I proceed much further.

The part I refuse to delve in to here are the reasons for Africa's current state of affairs.

I'd like to change that line to "once you have those things you can return to subsistence farming"

It should be a choice, not a command, and I'm sorry for making it sound that way. I was drunk too ;)
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 11 May 2010, 7:56amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I approve of this change.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 11 May 2010, 3:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yeah, so I don't agree Africa should be dominated by subsistence farming as a cure to their agricultural issues, but they should be encouraged to get to a stage where subsistence farming is an option to them, like it is for people in the USA and Australia.

Then again, when it comes to agriculture, I believe agriculture should benefit (basically feed) the people of a state before it is used to trade with other states.

In other words, I'm a bit of a Marxist when it comes to this ;)
JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 12 May 2010, 9:12amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Then again, when it comes to agriculture, I believe agriculture should benefit (basically feed) the people of a state before it is used to trade with other states.

In other words, I'm a bit of a Marxist when it comes to this ;)

what, and cutting down on uneccessary food miles?
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QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 12 May 2010, 10:10amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Circumcision sparks concern about Rush's mental healthMay 12, 2010
 
THERE are concerns for the mental welfare of the Australian heroin smuggler and death row inmate Scott Rush, who decided to be circumcised in an Islamic prayer room on Friday.

The dramatic and unauthorised circumcision took place after a group of Muslims surreptitiously brought a doctor into Kerobokan prison in Bali on Friday and raised questions about Rush's religious orientation.

Circumcision is often part of a conversion ceremony, but Rush told members of his prayer group who visited him yesterday that he remained a Christian.

A former psychiatrist who was part of the group that met Rush said he was ''anxious, thought-disordered and confused''.

''He exhibited naivety and did not seem to realise the implications of what he had done,'' the former psychiatrist, who asked not to be identified, reported to Rush's family and legal team. ''He is an anxious, lonely and terrified young man. He is trying to find understanding in a world that no longer makes sense.''

Rush was exhibiting signs of ''death row phenomenon'', a mental malady that affects people under a death sentence.

Rush has been on death row for 2½ years for his role in an operation to smuggle more than eight kilograms of heroin into Australia. His final legal appeal is due to be exercised shortly.

Kerobokan's section head of rehabilitation, Anang Huzaini, said he would ask the prison doctor on Friday to consider whether Rush needed outside psychiatric assistance.

 :lol: Oh gee, ya think!?
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 12 May 2010, 4:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
What the hell is going wrong in China at the moment (hold that joke for a minute) that is causing people to attack kids lately...5 separate incidents in the last 2 months! Fucking bizarre!

I saw one on the news last week and it was apparently due to some guy who could no longer provide for his family after losing his job etc. So the solution is to smash up (he used a hammer) unrelated innocent kids?

The latest one was pretty bad...

Seven dead, 20 hurt in China kindergarten attack, says state media

SEVEN children were hacked to death and at least 20 others were injured in an attack at a kindergarten in northern China today, state media reported, citing local officials.

The attack was the fifth violent assault on school children in less than two months in China, and comes despite a push to boost security in and around schools across the country.

The Xinhua news agency said the attack took place in the city of Hanzhong in Shaanxi province, and that the injured had been taken to hospital for treatment. No other details were immediately available.
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 12 May 2010, 5:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Now you know why I've never let LD meet my kids.
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QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 13 May 2010, 7:18amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Website claims Jacko still alive
 
A WEBSITE claims U.S. singer Michael Jackson is still alive and living as a burns victim.


 :lol:
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 14 May 2010, 9:04amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Phila. officer admits lie in saying he was shot

By Allison Steele and Troy Graham


It was the phone call police in Philadelphia most dread: an officer shot while on patrol.

In a city that has seen more than its share of police killings in recent years, the department's leaders were grimly prepared. Sometime after 4 a.m. on April 5, after Sgt. Robert Ralston was taken to the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania with a shoulder wound, the department's top brass rushed to his side, including Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey, who was sick with a stomach virus.

Ralston's injury turned out to be minor. But when he started telling the tale of his brush with disaster, the story raised red flags almost immediately.

Ralston, 46, said he had been shot in West Philadelphia by a black man who pointed a revolver at his head, then grazed him in the shoulder when Ralston knocked the gun away. He said he had returned fire and hit the man in the chest, but no gunshot victim turned up at a hospital.

When Ralston called his children to report what had happened, one police officer at the hospital said Ralston seemed eager to appear heroic.

And within hours of the shooting, Ralston got out of his hospital bed, picked up his bloodied shirt, and put it back on. He then returned to the scene to help with the investigation.

"It was strange," said Deputy Commissioner William Blackburn. "His reactions didn't add up."

Over the next few weeks, as police searched the scene and the neighborhood for clues, Ralston's tale continued to unravel. Gunpowder residue found on Ralston's shirt matched the ammunition in his own service weapon and suggested he was shot at point-blank range. Ralston made mistakes when describing the layout of the area where the shooting took place. And though Ralston was adamant he had shot the assailant, no blood was found at the scene.

Around 4 a.m. Tuesday, after four hours of questioning by detectives at Police Headquarters, Ralston admitted he had shot himself, fabricated the story, and made the false report.

Ramsey, who announced the officer's admission five hours later at a hastily called news conference, called the incident "a terrible and embarrassing chapter in our history."

John McNesby, president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 5, who also had raced to the hospital to meet with Ralston when he was shot last month, expressed disgust.

"The community has supported this city's police officers through so much, every time we lose an officer," McNesby said. "To have something like this come along that could possibly tear that down is a disgrace."

Ralston, a married father of five and a 21-year veteran of the department, was suspended Tuesday with intent to dismiss. He will be off the force officially in a month, and his badge number will be retired, so no officer will ever share the number with him.

Ralston will not face criminal charges because he was offered immunity from prosecution in exchange for his confession. That means he will most likely receive his pension, Ramsey said.

"It was the only way we could tie this up," Ramsey said of the arrangement.

Ralston's pension has not yet been calculated, but a city official estimated that he would collect about $24,000 annually if he took his pension now.

Some of that may be used to recoup the expense of the massive manhunt sparked by his lies, Ramsey said. Police spent hours combing the West Philadelphia neighborhood for possible suspects in the shooting, and the department has not yet calculated how much the investigation cost.

Rumors had circulated in the department for weeks that Ralston made up the story. Some sources speculated that he wanted attention, commendation from the department, or a transfer to another district. Ramsey said he did not know why Ralston had made up the story.

"The big question in everybody's minds is why," said Chief Inspector Anthony DiLacqua of Internal Affairs. "There's only one person who knows the answer to that."

Ralston could not be reached for comment. There was no answer at the door of his home in Northeast Philadelphia.

Ralston was hired in March 1989. He was promoted to sergeant in 2007, and last year was paid $65,424.

He spent much of his career working in the 25th District in North Philadelphia. In 1995, after he was named in a complaint, an investigator found that Ralston had hit a suspect on the head while arresting him, and that he had mishandled other aspects of the arrest.

Sometime after 2003, Ralston went to the relatively quiet Fourth District, which covers part of South Philadelphia. He recently was transferred to the busier, West Philadelphia-based 19th District, a move that police sources said Ralston was unhappy about.

Ralston was patrolling near 56th Street and Lancaster Avenue, in the Overbrook section, early April 5. Police were investigating a string of burglaries at a strip mall in the area, and Ralston told police he was on the lookout for anything suspicious.

He said he saw two men on the railroad tracks and tried to stop them, but one ran and the other drew a silver revolver and put it to Ralston's head. Ralston told police he had smacked the gun out of the way, but it went off and grazed him. At the time, officials said Ralston's quick reaction might have saved his life.

Ralston told police the assailant was a black man with his hair in corn rows. He had a mark or tattoo under his left eye, according to Ralston.

Ramsey said Ralston apparently described his assailant as black because the area where the shooting took place is predominantly African American.

"It's troubling in a lot of ways," Ramsey said. "It inflames racial tensions in our community, and that's certainly something we don't need."

Ramsey said it was fortunate that officers never stopped or arrested anyone matching Ralston's description of the gunman.

Officers with dogs searched along the tracks and woods at 52d and Lancaster, and knocked on doors in the neighborhood looking for people who might have heard or seen something. The FOP posted a $10,000 reward for information leading to the suspect's arrest.

From the start, police said, the facts of Ralston's story did not add up. But there was little evidence found that could disprove his story, either. No one witnessed the shooting. There were no surveillance cameras close by, and the incident took place in an area that is relatively desolate even in daylight hours.

"Putting the truth together took a great deal of effort," DiLacqua said.

In the end, police concluded that they could not charge Ralston unless he confessed.

District Attorney Seth Williams praised Ramsey's swift move to fire Ralston.

"We took a badge and a gun from a person whose actions proved him unfit for either. . . . Ultimately our goal was to get to the truth," Williams said in a statement. "Unfortunately, we could only arrive at the truth through his statement given to the police, and that statement cannot be used against him."
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Posted: 14 May 2010, 11:32amSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol: Yeah !!
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/amorous-kangaroo-making-unwanted-passes-at-female-tourists/story-e6frea8c-1225866300473

"...A BRAWNY kangaroo who has been seeking love of late has focused his lust on the women of a Northern Territory town.
The macropod has been hanging around the Honeymoon Ranges in Tennant Creek, making every effort to woo a woman.
One resident who walks along the bike track to the Mary Ann Dam regularly said early one morning she realised she was being followed.
"I turned around and saw this big kangaroo behind me, so I hastened my steps," she said.
"It seemed a bit odd, but I continued walking and didn't think much about it. Then on the return walk he was there waiting for me.
"With his male pride on full alert, he started circling me. There was no doubt about what he wanted, the randy old thing.
"It was a huge kangaroo and quite intimidating. I yelled at him to go away, waved my hands about and let him know I wasn't interested, but he was persistent - I'll give him that."
The woman said the kangaroo bounded off when two other walkers approached.

The jolly jumper made another appearance at a recent night-time speedway meeting.
Mother-of-three Tanya Wilson noticed he had come to see the action.
"I thought it was strange that a kangaroo would come to such a noisy place, but I grew up around kangaroos so I went up to say hello," she said.
"There I was having a nice chat to him when I heard others calling out to me, warning me to step away.
"I didn't take any notice of them because I didn't think I had anything to worry about."
Tanya was oblivious to the amorous nature of the interlude, but the kangaroo's intentions were clearly evident to other speedway fans...."

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CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 17 May 2010, 8:49amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Skinny-dipping tourist bitten on penis by spider

 A CANADIAN tourist suffered heart inflammation after he was bitten on the penis by a venomous spider while swimming nude in New Zealand.

The 22-year-old man fell asleep naked on the sand dunes after skinny dipping in Northland, Wellington - then “woke to find his penis swollen and painful with a red mark on the shaft suggestive of a bite”, according to the New Zealand Medical Journal.

He was bitten by a katipo spider which caused generalized muscle pains, fever, headache, photophobia (light sensitivity) and vomiting, the journal said.

"It was a rather nasty, ill-placed bite," Dr Nigel Harrison told the New Zealand Herald.

The man was taken to the Dargaville Hospital where his condition worsened. He developed high blood pressure and chest pains and was treated with antivenin medicine.

His heart problems persisted so he was treated at Whangarei Hospital and Auckland Hospital before returning to Canada.

“He was discharged after a total of 16 days in hospital. On review he was generally well," the journal report said.

He was the first known person to develop myocarditis - heart inflammation - following a katipo spider bite.

The katipo is a small endangered species of spider native to New Zealand. The female has a black body with a white bordered red stripe on its back while the male is white with black stripes and red diamond shaped markings.
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EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 17 May 2010, 10:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Funny that, because whenever you go over to NZ all the Kiwis ever do is go on about how they dont have snakes or spiders. lol
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 17 May 2010, 10:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Funny that, because whenever you go over to NZ all the Kiwis ever do is go on about how they dont have snakes or spiders. lol

Haha true, but, if it had happened here, he probaly wouldn't have woken up ever again. :lol:
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Posted: 17 May 2010, 11:14amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Haha true, but, if it had happened here, he probaly wouldn't have woken up ever again. :lol:

Or wished he didn't wake up after finding his dick rotted off.
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Posted: 17 May 2010, 7:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

 Did you hear what he said to the Doctor?

 Give me something for the pain but leave the swelling.
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mindthiefPosts: 1,904
Posted: 17 May 2010, 7:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol::lol: You've been thinking of that one all day haven't you?
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 17 May 2010, 9:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Did you hear what he said to the Doctor?

 Give me something for the pain but leave the swelling.

Nice :lol:
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JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 9:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oh, and not expecting the reaction that followed just shows absolutely no understanding of modern, progressive society.

i find it both amusing and alarming he got preselection before this.
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 9:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It looks like he has a Filipino wife though which is interesting (though they are usually heavily Christian), so he can't be that racist, he's merely against other religions. What "ism" would you call that?

A) Look at him, she is probably mail-order or swayed by the prospect of being taken to a more prosperous land and future on a permanent VISA. He, on the other hand, is swayed by the offer of actual, real, no bullshit, vagina for life, and the deal was sealed for him by the language barrier meaning little room for conversation and back talk.

B) I'm pretty sure John Derbyshire has an Asian wife. An appreciation for certain races doesn't preclude a lesser opinion of others.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 2:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It looks like he has a Filipino wife though which is interesting (though they are usually heavily Christian), so he can't be that racist, he's merely against other religions. What "ism" would you call that?


In other news, I saw this today...hilarious! What a loony!

This is why hippies should just stick to smoking weed and not washing. :E

:rofl:

i saw the same thing on a new zealand cop show. Maori's dont recognize the police or some shit like that. Im sure there is some legal standing but the dudes were parro
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 2:52pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i saw the same thing on a new zealand cop show. Maori's dont recognize the police or some shit like that. Im sure there is some legal standing but the dudes were parro

Now in the case of the Maoris I can kind of understand where they're coming from if they don't recognise the colonial rule of their native lands, but this was just ridiculous!
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 3:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
who cares if they recognize it or not? Surely its not one rule for the natives and one for the rest, especially when it comes to driving pissed
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 3:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
who cares if they recognize it or not? Surely its not one rule for the natives and one for the rest, especially when it comes to driving pissed

Oh of course you couldn't enforce such a rule. It would set a dangerous precedent for practically every country in the world.

I was just saying it had a lot more validity to claim something like that than some delusional "I am a witch not of this world so your rules do not apply" deal. :lol:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 3:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I was of the belief that witches considered themselves one with nature and all that jazz
but im not gonna try and apply rationale to someone who drives off with the cop still in her window, dont matter what your beliefs are, thats just not cricket
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EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 5:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i saw the same thing on a new zealand cop show. Maori's dont recognize the police or some shit like that. Im sure there is some legal standing but the dudes were parro

Now in the case of the Maoris I can kind of understand where they're coming from if they don't recognise the colonial rule of their native lands, but this was just ridiculous!

Nah that dude on that Motorway show had lost it.

My husband is Maori, his tribe is from the Bay of Islands, and when he saw that he just cracked up laughing when we saw that show because there are so many dodgy maoris in NZ that are living in another world from the rest of the population. Classic "its all good bro, yer its choice as 'aye" behaviour. On Motorway, that dude was saying that he came under a different government, a special Maori government.

Some of them forget that their tribal elders signed the Treaty of Waitangi, (signed in KeriKeri, Bay of Islands) giving sovereignty to the British Colonisation, and this is where NZ laws began.

We did a family tree all the way back and my husbands great uncle Monty Busby is related to James Busby, who drafted the document. Reuben is also related to a Maori chief relative that signed the treaty. We went and looked at the Treaty when we went to NZ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi

So that dude on motor way had no clue, a lot of Maoris use the treaty when it suits them i.e. claiming of native lands), and dont like the treaty when it doesnt suit them. Saying that he is ruled by a Maori government and he had his own driving licence under that government was ludicrous.

Okay lecture is over now lol



Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 6:02pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oh of course you couldn't enforce such a rule. It would set a dangerous precedent for practically every country in the world.

I was just saying it had a lot more validity to claim something like that than some delusional "I am a witch not of this world so your rules do not apply" deal. :lol:

How does it have more validity? It still has exactly the same practical effect. In fact, last I checked, even taking relative population sizes in to consideration, Maoris commit a shit load more crimes than witches, so it has a more pronounced and dangerous practical effect. Personally, one of my 'ethical' standpoints in a community is to try to keep robbery, rape and murder to a minimum, because Detroit is a shit place to live for a reason. Please enlighten me as to how your normative view is superior to mine?

Also,

Nah that dude on that Motorway show had lost it.

My husband is Maori, his tribe is from the Bay of Islands, and when he saw that he just cracked up laughing when we saw that show because there are so many dodgy maoris in NZ that are living in another world from the rest of the population. Classic "its all good bro, yer its choice as 'aye" behaviour. On Motorway, that dude was saying that he came under a different government, a special Maori government.

Some of them forget that their tribal elders signed the Treaty of Waitangi, (signed in KeriKeri, Bay of Islands) giving sovereignty to the British Colonisation, and this is where NZ laws began.

We did a family tree all the way back and my husbands great uncle Monty Busby is related to James Busby, who drafted the document. Reuben is also related to a Maori chief relative that signed the treaty. We went and looked at the Treaty when we went to NZ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi

So that dude on motor way had no clue, a lot of Maoris use the treaty when it suits them i.e. claiming of native lands), and dont like the treaty when it doesnt suit them. Saying that he is ruled by a Maori government and he had his own driving licence under that government was ludicrous.

this.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 6:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
In fact, last I checked, even taking relative population sizes in to consideration, Maoris commit a shit load more crimes than witches

where did you check? i would like to see the statistics.

:E
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 6:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol: I don't think the GSS has a section for witch, but I am just lumping them in with a whole bunch of other left-field, wacky hippie groups as an educated guess.
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 6:23pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
How does it have more validity? It still has exactly the same practical effect.

Yes, I read Erika's post too and it was very enlightening.

I never said I would agree with people using that as an excuse but it has more validity in my eyes than the farcical witch excuse because at least as the native people of a land you could at least argue that you were there first and had your own set of rules in place before having another nations' forced upon you.

Again not saying that anyone should use this as an excuse. The laws are in place now, the demographics of the country have changed and you have to adapt to that.
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 11:33amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What if she was a Maori Witch?
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EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 12:11pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
where did you check? i would like to see the statistics.

:E

 :lol:

Anyone who knows maoris knows you dont fuk with em aye bro. lol. They are usually bigger and stronger than us whiteys thats for sure.

I sent this to Reuben thre other day lol! 'Warrior gene' blamed for Maori violence

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=120718

This article is a good way to stir a maori up lol.
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 6:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Countdown 'til the end of Greece.

Greek Government Resorts To Wartime Emergency Act: Threatens Economy-Paralyzing Strikers With Prison Time
By Tyler Durden
Created 07/29/2010 - 03:54

In an advance reminder that the National Lampoon's European Austerity Vacation Tour is coming to an end, and with it come back pestilence, plauge, locusts, flash crashes and 24/7 cripping strikes, the Greek government has just issued a war-time emergency decree which forces striking truck drivers of fuel-tankers to get back to work or face criminal charges and up to five years of jail time (such an order issued to striking US unions would likely lead to civil war almost overnight). In other words, the Greek austerity plan is working so well, the country now finds itself resorting to wartime measures. As Market News reports, "The drivers had been on strike for three days through Wednesday, protesting a government effort to open up their profession, which is part of the austerity package [1]agreed by Greece in exchange for up to E100 billion in loans from the Eurozone and the IMF. About 70% of gas station owners say they have run out of supplies, while shortages of food and other goods have also been reported, affecting tourism at peak season." Amusingly the Greek economy resumes its collapse despite the ever louder lies by one version of G-Pap or another that the country's economy is now stronger than ever. Odd then how this works with increasing numbers of striking people: perhaps Greece should fire everyone and see its GDP shoot up by 100%? Even funnier, the emergency act coincides with the arrival of the so-called "troika" officials from the European Commission, the ECB and the IMF, who have been inspecting the Greek economy since Monday and will continue doing so for the next seven days - we hope they filled up their gas tanks in advance of their goal seeked tour. Obviously, the three stooges will find nothing wrong with Greece, and over the mortar fire in the background, will say G-Pap is doing so well he deserves another cool trillion from the US taxpayers. In other news, the fraud circus must go on.

More from Market News:

" The government announced it would issue the civil mobilization order, normally used in times of war or national disaster, and send letters to each of the truck drivers ordering them to report to duty. If they fail to comply, they could face criminal charges and up to five years of jail time.

The drivers had been on strike for three days through Wednesday, protesting a government effort to open up their profession, which is part of the austerity package agreed by Greece in exchange for up to E100 billion in loans from the Eurozone and the IMF.

Earlier Wednesday, discussions between the truckers union and the socialist government had collapsed and drivers vowed to continue the strike indefinitely. They complain that under the government plan, licenses to new drivers would be issued for much less than they paid, thereby putting them at a disadvantage.

The government said it will not back down and will table the draft bill to liberalize the sector this week. Under the terms of the EMU/IMF bailout plan, the sector must open up by the end of September.

The officials will draft a report in mid-August and have already indicated that the Greek plan "is broadly on track." While the second installment is considered essentially a foregone conclusion, the Socialist government is now faced with the toughest decisions, such as the opening up of closed professions, liberalizing the energy market, and further reforms in the labor sector.
"

Again - if this is happening with 90% of Europe on vacation, just wait until people get back to their jobs and realize they have all been relocated to the basement, without a stapler, and with a "glitch" in payroll after two IMF consultants named Bob have made everyone's pension redundant.
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 5 Aug 2010, 9:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Lol, Laurence Fishburne's daughter is gonna be a porn star...

'My dad's very upset': Laurence Fishburne's daughter reveals the hurt caused by her X-rated movie

CSI actor Laurence Fishburne is 'very hurt' that his 19-year old daughter is set to star in an X-rated porn movie released later this month.

And it is Montana Fishburne herself who has revealed the trouble that she has caused in her family.

'My dad is very upset,' she told TMZ.com. 'I heard that he's mad at me but I haven't spoken to him yet.  I feel pretty confident that I can work things out with him.'

The young wannabe actress is making a porn film in conjunction with Vivid Entertainment, TMZ is reporting.

The adult film giant is behind the distribution of several celebrity sex tapes including those starring Kendra Wilkinson, Kardashian and Hilton.

But unlike the other famous X-rated stars, Montana is not claiming that her tape was stolen or illegally 'leaked'.

'I view making this movie as an important first step in my career,' said Montana.


Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 5 Aug 2010, 10:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cute enough. Though her forehead is nearly the size of Rihanna's, but still.

Also, probably just because of his role in Boyz n the Hood bleeding over in to my picture of reality, but I always thought Fishburne was a Nation of Islam touting whitey hater - much like Denzel - but that kid is clearly mulatto.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 5 Aug 2010, 11:02pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cute enough. Though her forehead is nearly the size of Rihanna's, but still.

Also, probably just because of his role in Boyz n the Hood bleeding over in to my picture of reality, but I always thought Fishburne was a Nation of Islam touting whitey hater - much like Denzel - but that kid is clearly mulatto.

Higher Learning added to that perception too lol.
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 10:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Worrying stuff...

Are you ready for a world without antibiotics?
Antibiotics are a bedrock of modern medicine. But in the very near future, we're going to have to learn to live without them once again. And it's going to get nasty

Just 65 years ago, David Livermore's paternal grandmother died following an operation to remove her appendix. It didn't go well, but it was not the surgery that killed her. She succumbed to a series of infections that the pre-penicillin world had no drugs to treat. Welcome to the future.

The era of antibiotics is coming to a close. In just a couple of generations, what once appeared to be miracle medicines have been beaten into ineffectiveness by the bacteria they were designed to knock out. Once, scientists hailed the end of infectious diseases. Now, the post-antibiotic apocalypse is within sight.

Hyperbole? Unfortunately not. The highly serious journal Lancet Infectious Diseases yesterday posed the question itself over a paper revealing the rapid spread of multi-drug-resistant bacteria. "Is this the end of antibiotics?" it asked.

Doctors and scientists have not been complacent, but the paper by Professor Tim Walsh and colleagues takes the anxiety to a new level. Last September, Walsh published details of a gene he had discovered, called NDM 1, which passes easily between types of bacteria called enterobacteriaceae such as E. coli and Klebsiella pneumoniae and makes them resistant to almost all of the powerful, last-line group of antibiotics called carbapenems. Yesterday's paper revealed that NDM 1 is widespread in India and has arrived here as a result of global travel and medical tourism for, among other things, transplants, pregnancy care and cosmetic surgery.

Quote
After antibiotics What happens when the drugs don't work

• Transplant surgery becomes virtually impossible. Organ recipients have to take immune-suppressing drugs for life to stop rejection of a new heart or kidney. Their immune systems cannot fight off life-threatening infections without antibiotics.

• Removing a burst appendix becomes a dangerous operation once again. Patients are routinely given antibiotics after surgery to prevent the wound becoming infected by bacteria. If bacteria get into the bloodstream, they can cause life-threatening septicaemia.

• Pneumonia becomes once more "the old man's friend". Antibiotics have stopped it being the mass-killer it once was, particularly among the old and frail, who would lapse into unconsciousness and often slip away in their sleep. Other diseases of old age, such as cancer, have taken over.

• Gonorrhea becomes hard to treat. Resistant strains are already on the rise. Without treatment, the sexually transmitted disease causes pelvic inflammatory disease, infertility and ectopic pregnancies.

• Tuberculosis becomes incurable – first we had TB, then multi-drug-resistant TB (MDR-TB) and now there is XDR-TB (extremely drug resistant TB). TB requires very long courses (six months or more) of antibiotics. The very human tendency to stop taking or forget to take the drugs has contributed to the spread of resistance.
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 13 Aug 2010, 4:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Even the Gonorrhea part?  Well I guess you do live in Thailand.  



:teefthumbs:

Doesn't mean I indulge... ;)

I think the most worrying part is not being able to stop infections during operations.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 13 Aug 2010, 4:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
a mate of mine tracks disease in hospitals and his business is growing by the day!
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ANZACPosts: 562
Posted: 14 Aug 2010, 11:45amSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:The posts before this have been entertaining.


This article is a good way to stir a maori up lol.

This article is Gold. Didn't stir me up, just made me more proud  :biggrin: Kia Kaha and all that!!
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Posted: 18 Aug 2010, 7:52amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I KNEW South Australia had the oldest fossils in the world, I just thought they were members of the Adelaide City Council...

http://io9.com/5615087/sponges-found-in-australia-may-be-the-worlds-oldest-animal-fossils

Researchers have discovered 650-to-640 million-year-old ancient sponge fossils at Australia's Flinders Ranges. These fossils predate the oldest known animal fossils by 90 million years and antecede the blossoming of life during the Cambrian Explosion ~524 million years ago.

Princeton University's Adam Maloof and his team discovered these fossils by meticulously grinding up an ancient fist-sized rock and mapping the millimeter-long variations using 3D imaging. In an article published today in Nature Geoscience, the researchers describe both their findings and methodology:

    The Neoproterozoic era was punctuated by the Sturtian (about 710 million years ago) and Marinoan (about 635 million years ago) intervals of glaciation. In South Australia, the rocks left behind by the glaciations are separated by a succession of limestones and shales, which were deposited at tropical latitudes. [These are] millimetre- to centimetre-scale fossils from the Trezona Formation, which pre-dates the Marinoan glaciation. These weakly calcified fossils occur as anvil, wishbone, ring and perforated slab shapes and are contained within stromatolitic limestones. The Trezona Formation fossils pre-date the oldest known calcified fossils of this size by 90 million years, and cannot be separated from the surrounding calcite matrix or imaged by traditional X-ray-based tomographic scanning methods. Instead, we have traced cross-sections of individual fossils by serially grinding and scanning each sample at a resolution of 50.8 μm. From these images we constructed three-dimensional digital models of the fossils. Our reconstructions show a population of ellipsoidal organisms without symmetry and with a network of interior canals that lead to circular apertures on the fossil surface.
chrisPosts: 6,939
Posted: 18 Aug 2010, 10:03amSubject: Re: In The News Today
weird. i was actually watching the documentary where adam maloof came to south australia to find this out yesterday on national geographic. it was about the mayan 2012 calender though and he was seeing a pole shift could end the world like the mayan's have predicted.

that's why those fossils are there.
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mindthiefPosts: 1,904
Posted: 20 Aug 2010, 10:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Saw this in todays paper and had to laugh.

Bears ‘guard’ cannabis fields



Around 13 black bears strolled around the fields but police soon realised that they showed no signs of aggressive behaviour and were in fact tame.

They are thought to have been lured into the British Columbian farm by dog food and officers said they might have to be put down if they’ve become used to living around humans, the BBC reported.

Police uncovered two separate outdoor marijuana crops of about 2,300 plants in total.

The five police officers were called to the marijuana plantation, near Christina Lake, to dismantle the farm and arrested two men in the process, while stumbling across the bears.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police sergeant Fred Mansvield, said: ‘They (the bears) were tame, they just sat around watching.

‘At one point one of the bears climbed onto the hood of a police car, sat there for a bit and then jumped off.’

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/838498-bears-guard-cannabis-fields

Fucking bears? :lol:
dubbdPosts: 2,314
Posted: 21 Aug 2010, 11:32pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Guard of dishonour for war memorial sex act

By Alex Watts of Sky News From: NewsCore August 21, 2010 6:15am

A BRITISH woman caught on security cameras performing a sex act beside a war memorial and urinating on it was forced to walk through a "guard of dishonor" as she arrived at court for sentencing.

War veterans, sporting berets and medals, lined the court steps to show their outrage at Wendy Lewis's antics.

Lewis responded with a four-letter expletive as veterans shouted “disgusting" when she entered the building in Blackpool, northwestern England - an outpouring of anger dubbed a "guard of dishonour" by observers.

The court date took place on the same day that veterans were marking 70 years since the Battle of Britain, Sky News reports.

There was further drama when Lewis - dubbed "Britain's most disgusting person" by sections of the UK media - disappeared from court, telling probation officers she had a "problem at home".


 

 
When she failed to show up six hours later a warrant was issued for her arrest. If she is found by police, she will spend the weekend in jail until court resumes on Monday.

Lewis, 32, admitted outraging public decency at an earlier hearing and is expected to be given community service as punishment.

She was caught on security cameras in May urinating on a town centre war memorial while drunk. When police showed up, they found her performing a sex act on a man sitting on the memorial.

Ian Coleman, president of the Royal British Legion Association, called her the "most disgusting person in this country" and said she should be jailed for her actions.

Former Royal Marine James Baker, 88, said: "This female, I nearly called her a lady, has disgraced her sex. It is unforgivable what she did in the face of these dead men."
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 1 Sep 2010, 9:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
bollocks.

Mine would be this one, and took me all of two seconds to decide:

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Lol, the picture took awhile to load here and I didn't even need to wait to know that it would be PWEI.

It turns out you can have up to 30! Top 60 then!
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 1 Sep 2010, 10:07pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
How's this for overzealous cops! Assholes! Plus there's tasers involved for more win. Follow the link for the video.

Man sues Marin sheriff after being Tased at home

MARIN COUNTY, CA (KGO) -- A Marin County man has filed suit against the Marin County Sheriff's Department for an incident in which he says law enforcement officers went too far. Peter McFarland was Tased inside his own home as his wife watched, begging officers to stop.


On June 29, 2009 McFarland and his wife Pearl were returning home from a charity fundraiser just before midnight. McFarland injured himself as he stumbled and fell down the long steps to his front door.

"Mainly it was to my knee and the front of my leg, my shin," McFarland said.

His wife called paramedics, who helped him into the house and treated him. As the paramedics were leaving, two sheriff's deputies arrived.

"All of a sudden, they just showed up, they came in here like there was a fire going on, like a gunfight was going on," McFarland said.

What happened in the following minutes was captured on a camera mounted on the deputy's Taser.

The deputy tells McFarland he is going to take him to the hospital because he may be suicidal.

"We want to take you to the hospital for an evaluation, you said if you had a gun, you'd shoot yourself in the head," the deputy can be heard saying.

McFarland says it was just hyperbole. He was tired and in pain.

The deputy orders him numerous times to get up or else.

"Stand up, put your hands behind your back or you're going to be Tased," the deputy says.

McFarland keeps refusing.

The exchange goes on for about five minutes; his wife keeps pleading with the deputies not to Tase him, saying he has a heart condition.

Then, McFarland tells the deputies in no uncertain terms to leave.

As he gets up to go to bed, McFarland is Tased. Not once, but three times.

"There's got to be a problem in terms of training and on supervising deputy sheriffs in the county; it's hard to imagine something so shocking could happen," McFarland's attorney John Scott said.

McFarland says he never had any suicidal thoughts. In fact, he considers himself lucky to be alive.

"I'm a survivor of pancreatic cancer; one of 4 percent in this country," McFarland said.

Scott says his client was arrested, jailed and charged with resisting arrest. A judge later dismissed the charge.

Scott says the deputies had no search warrant or legal reason to enter McFarland's home and even if they thought he was drunk and suicidal, Scott says the Tasing was excessive force.

ABC7's calls to the Marin County Sheriff's Department were not returned.
chrisPosts: 6,939
Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 9:09amSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol. that's a bit rough

edit: just watched it on youtube. fucking mole. as if you do shit like that to puppies.
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chrisPosts: 6,939
Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 9:14amSubject: Re: In The News Today
dunno, didn't check your link. i just searched youtube to find it.
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fritzgibbonPosts: 639
Posted: 6 Sep 2010, 10:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/10/hitchens-201010

Unanswerable Prayers
What’s an atheist to think when thousands of believers (including prominent rabbis and priests) are praying for his survival and salvation—while others believe his cancer was divinely inspired, and hope that he burns in hell? Related: The first in the series, “Topic of Cancer,” by Christopher Hitchens.
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Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 8:59amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Goldie's son gets life for murder

The son of dance music star Goldie was jailed for life on Tuesday after stabbing a disabled man to death.

Jamie Price chased Marlon Morris before stabbing him four times, once fatally in the heart.

Morris, an associate of the Pendeford Crew, had been out drinking with friends and was unarmed when he was attacked by 23-year-old Price in Wolverhampton city centre on August 24, 2008.

Price, a member of rivals the Heath Town gang, was told on Tuesday that he must serve at least 21 years in prison after he was found guilty of murder at Nottingham Crown Court on Monday.

Goldie was not in court as Price was handed his sentence by Judge John Milmo QC.

Passing sentence, the judge said: "The background here is gang culture. The refusal of gangs to accept the law of the land, coupled with the desire to impose their own anarchic ways, cannot be tolerated by society.

"In a case of this kind there are no winners, only losers. Everyone involved here has lost and lost in a very significant sense, whether the sentence is one of life or one of death."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/7957699/goldies-son-convicted-of-murder



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luckydicePosts: 160
Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 9:07amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I KNEW South Australia had the oldest fossils in the world, I just thought they were members of the Adelaide City Council...

http://io9.com/5615087/sponges-found-in-australia-may-be-the-worlds-oldest-animal-fossils

Researchers have discovered 650-to-640 million-year-old ancient sponge fossils at Australia's Flinders Ranges. These fossils predate the oldest known animal fossils by 90 million years and antecede the blossoming of life during the Cambrian Explosion ~524 million years ago.

Princeton University's Adam Maloof and his team discovered these fossils by meticulously grinding up an ancient fist-sized rock and mapping the millimeter-long variations using 3D imaging. In an article published today in Nature Geoscience, the researchers describe both their findings and methodology:
   

These guys have been coming down to the Flinders over the last few months and illegally removing the fossils and have been trying to send them back to the US and Europe via post as well as taking them back in their luggage. The Australian Federal Police have busted a few of them. Should be a bit more info coming out in the media in the coming days.
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 5:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Goldie's son gets life for murder

The son of dance music star Goldie was jailed for life on Tuesday after stabbing a disabled man to death.

Jamie Price chased Marlon Morris before stabbing him four times, once fatally in the heart.

Morris, an associate of the Pendeford Crew, had been out drinking with friends and was unarmed when he was attacked by 23-year-old Price in Wolverhampton city centre on August 24, 2008.

Price, a member of rivals the Heath Town gang, was told on Tuesday that he must serve at least 21 years in prison after he was found guilty of murder at Nottingham Crown Court on Monday.

Goldie was not in court as Price was handed his sentence by Judge John Milmo QC.

Passing sentence, the judge said: "The background here is gang culture. The refusal of gangs to accept the law of the land, coupled with the desire to impose their own anarchic ways, cannot be tolerated by society.

"In a case of this kind there are no winners, only losers. Everyone involved here has lost and lost in a very significant sense, whether the sentence is one of life or one of death."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/7957699/goldies-son-convicted-of-murder

Geez that's pretty full-on! What a hero, attacking a disabled person!

It makes you wonder though, I guess wealth doesn't always get you out of the gang life, I would've though Goldie would be able to provide enough financial stability to his family to keep them out of that kind of thing...
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Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 9:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Are you talking about this?

Web hunt for girl caught in horror video throwing live puppies into a river

Video link: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bb4_1283184704

thats fucking sick man...

I'd set that bitch alight.. Would not even piss on her.


Goldie's son gets life for murder

The son of dance music star Goldie was jailed for life on Tuesday after stabbing a disabled man to death.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/7957699/goldies-son-convicted-of-murder







wow...

you would think having a father who is a cornerstone in ANY sort of music would've taught respect and love.

not hate and violence.
RohanPosts: 1,113
Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 10:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Excuse my lack of knowledge in the whole justice system but how does "at least 21 years in prison" equate to "life in prison."

Isn't 40+ years in prison classified as life in prison?Or is that just here in Australia? Not to mention 23+21 = 44 so he could be out for his 44th birthday?
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 11:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Geez that's pretty full-on! What a hero, attacking a disabled person!

It makes you wonder though, I guess wealth doesn't always get you out of the gang life, I would've though Goldie would be able to provide enough financial stability to his family to keep them out of that kind of thing...

you would think having a father who is a cornerstone in ANY sort of music would've taught respect and love.

not hate and violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blank_Slate

Also, equating musical talent and/or success with people skills and/or parental responsibility is a tad irrational at best. I could name a musical genius or 18 who were verified assholes or crazy recluses.



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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 8 Sep 2010, 11:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blank_Slate

Also, equating musical talent and/or success with people skills and/or parental responsibility is a tad irrational at best. I could name a musical genius or 18 who were verified assholes or crazy recluses.





I see what you're getting at but plenty of artists in different fields have been able to give their offspring a leg-up in nepotistic fashion, teaching them the craft and passing it on. Obviously there are far too many to mention but one that would be relevant in this case is Crissy Criss, Kenny Ken's son.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 5:46amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Excuse my lack of knowledge in the whole justice system but how does "at least 21 years in prison" equate to "life in prison."

Isn't 40+ years in prison classified as life in prison?Or is that just here in Australia? Not to mention 23+21 = 44 so he could be out for his 44th birthday?

I'd say he's been sentenced to life but will be eligible for parole in 21 years - Absolute bull shit imo but thats the way the justice system works.
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dubbdPosts: 2,314
Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 8:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
goldie did throw redeyes down the stairs at the end for doing a unauthorised remix of timeless.... hardly a great role model! makes/mixes a good music though
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khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 8:45amSubject: Re: In The News Today
goldie did throw redeyes down the stairs at the end for doing a unauthorised remix of inner city life

fixed

;)

not only did he do the unauthourised remix, he gave it to everyone except goldie, so of course goldie was going to be pissed

:E

goldie came from a pretty rough background and got out of the gang stuff thru graffiti and music, he is actually a pretty good role model as he was able to get himself out of that lifestyle. shame his son didnt follow in his footsteps.
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 4:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
goldie came from a pretty rough background and got out of the gang stuff thru graffiti and music, he is actually a pretty good role model as he was able to get himself out of that lifestyle. shame his son didnt follow in his footsteps.

He did follow in Goldie's footsteps.

It's just that Goldie got on acid and eccies listening to house and rave, whilst Jnr was on coke and meth listening to grime and dubstep.

Kid probably played videogames too.
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 6:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He did follow in Goldie's footsteps.

It's just that Goldie got on acid and eccies listening to house and rave, whilst Jnr was on coke and meth listening to grime and dubstep.

Kid probably played videogames too.

Bloody dubstep!

:rofl:
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Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 7:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He did follow in Goldie's footsteps.

It's just that Goldie got on acid and eccies listening to house and rave, whilst Jnr was on coke and meth listening to grime and dubstep.

Kid probably played videogames too.
bahahahahaha

been saving this one for a while

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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 9:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Crazy shit. The writer is a bit of a knob though calling them "mad scientists". If it wasn't for those "mad scientists" he wouldn't have a job because they were responsible for the Internet!

DARPA working to develop helmets for US Army that control soldiers' brains


  • Unit fitted inside helmet
  • Ultrasonic waves influence brain
  • Increase awareness, decrease pain


THE US Army's mad science department is attempting to engineer helmets that can influence a soldier's brain.

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - otherwise known as DARPA - says it is researching technology that stimulates the brain through implants, allowing it to relieve stress during combat and boost a soldiers' battlefield awareness.

The helmet will transmit what DARPA refers to as "transcranial pulsed ultrasound" waves into a soldiers' brain from an external unit.

The man in charge of developing the technology, Dr William Tyler of the Arizona State University, said the implants "remotely and directly stimulate brain circuits without requiring surgery".

By exerting effects on circuits "deep within the brain", the implants can also make a soldier less susceptible to pain.

 
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Brain implants themselves are not exactly new technology, and are used in severe cases to treat disorders such as depression or Parkinson's disease.

Another form of mind control revealed recently involved introducing magnetic nanoparticles into cell membranes.

However, Dr Tyler's technology does not require surgery and can target areas deep within the brain as small as two millimetres.

Dr Tyler said rather than being invasive, such technology could actually prevent a soldier from incurring irreversible traumatic brain injuries (TBI).

“It’s the metabolic damage, the free radicals and the swelling that are happening in the hours (after a TBI)," he told Wired.

"If you can flick your remote and trigger an immediate intervention, you’d be curbing what might otherwise be lifelong brain damage.”
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Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 2:49amSubject: Re: In The News Today
fixed

;)

not only did he do the unauthourised remix, he gave it to everyone except goldie, so of course goldie was going to be pissed

:E

goldie came from a pretty rough background and got out of the gang stuff thru graffiti and music, he is actually a pretty good role model as he was able to get himself out of that lifestyle. shame his son didnt follow in his footsteps.

Let's not forget, just cos you have fathered a child doesn't mean you have anything to do with it. He has got 5 of the fuckers.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 11:02pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Another news.com.au facepalm moment today...

Quote
Superstar Oprah Winfrey will host her first ever show outside the US with a star-studded Aussie line-up at the harbourside iconic Sydney landmark which bears her name

So it's called the Oprah House? Huh?

 :facepalm:

I swear they have some dedicated moron who tries to put lame puns in every article.
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Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 9:23amSubject: Re: In The News Today

 :facepalm:

 I guess it is the same size as her arse. Easy to get confused.
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Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 10:19amSubject: Re: In The News Today
:facepalm:

 I guess it is the same size as her arse. Easy to get confused.

gold :rofl:
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Posted: 5 Nov 2010, 4:41pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
just to clarify, it wasn't my story that was "gold", it was khem's.

i would elaborate on my mates experience but details are sketchy. i think it ended with him locked in a cupboard trying to talk himself out of dying.
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Posted: 5 Nov 2010, 4:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
just to clarify, it wasn't my story that was "gold", it was khem's.

i would elaborate on my mates experience but details are sketchy. i think it ended with him locked in a cupboard trying to talk himself out of dying.

Yeah I understood that.

After seeing the effects it had on a few people myself, I wouldn't touch it either!
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Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 10:25amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sounds like something I might be interested in.
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CaitPosts: 2,145
Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 7:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I know someone who drank two bottles of cough medicine and proceeded to spew purpley red for the rest of the night while talking nonsense.

Almost as silly as people I know eating tablespoon after tablespoon of nutmeg. Vomiting and no high ensued, but they smelled nice for a few days afterwards.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 9:07amSubject: Re: In The News Today
we stole flowers from my neighbours yard, dried them and smoked them because my brother 'read on the internet' that they could get you high
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Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 7:50amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Damn internet. It should be banned.
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Posted: 7 Dec 2010, 2:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oklahoma women arrested for hiding stolen goods in rolls of body fat

TWO women were facing charges after allegedly using their body fat to conceal $2600 worth of stolen store merchandise.

Ailene Brown, 28, and 37-year-old Shmeco Thomas, both from Oklahoma City, were arrested for shoplifting at the Edmond branch of TJ Maxx after loss prevention officers caught the women stuffing items under their stomach fat and breasts, KFOR.com reported.

Officer James Hamm said: "These two were actually concealing them in areas of their body where excess skin was, under their chest area and armpits."

Police said Brown also had a knife in her purse they said she used to cut security tags in the store.

One of the suspects had allegedly managed to conceal a pair of leather boots in her bra, The Edmond Sun reported.




Read more: http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky/oklahoma-women-arrested-for-hiding-stolen-goods-in-rolls-of-body-fat/story-e6frflri-1225964247840#ixzz17Oj9wqVG
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Posted: 7 Dec 2010, 2:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
One of the suspects had allegedly managed to conceal a pair of leather boots in her bra, The Edmond Sun reported.

laugh

fair effort, allegedly

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Posted: 7 Dec 2010, 4:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Man changes name to Captain Awesome

A UNITED STATES man has had an Awesome name change.

Douglas Allen Smith Jr from Oregon says he changed his name to Captain Awesome last month because he was inspired by the nickname of a character on the television show Chuck,  Dr Devon "Captain Awesome" Woodcomb.

The unemployed cabinet installer says he found it funny Dr Woodcomb's father gave him that nickname because a "poor nickname builds good character".

The former Mr Smith says he faced a Lane County judge who questioned his seriousness.

The judge who granted the request made him swear he wasn't changing his name for fraudulent reasons.

Captain Awesome says that judge also allowed him to sign his name as a right arrow, a smiley face and a left arrow.

He says his bank, however, has refused to accept the signature because it could be forged too easily.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/man-has-awesome-name-change/story-e6frfkyi-1225967122275#ixzz17PLs1nL4

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Posted: 8 Dec 2010, 9:34amSubject: Re: In The News Today
cait can you set me up on a date?
 teef
No worries! You won't need to call a cab to take her out, just hitch a ride under her left boob flab!
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Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 3:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Air New Zealand pulls 'offensive' ad

AIRLINE slogan offering fares "lower than your grandma’s boobs" pulled after outrage.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/air-new-zealand-pulls-fares-lower-than-grandmas-boobs-ad/story-e6frfq80-1225973946034

laugh

rofl

They've really been toeing the line with their ads recently. They had to change their inflight safety video featuring the All Blacks the other day because it had a scene where a gay male flight attendant asks for a kiss on the cheek from one of the players who shuns hims with a look of bemusement.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 10:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
the kiwis are in the headlines again

Armed man commandeered Mr Whippy van, court told

A knife-wielding man commandeered a Mr Whippy van and hurled ice creams at passersby, a court has been told.

Joseph David Banks, 21, pleaded guilty in Hastings District Court this week to a raft of charges including threatening to kill, resisting police, disorderly behaviour and possession of an offensive weapon. He was remanded for sentencing tomorrow.

Banks, heavily intoxicated and armed with a butcher's knife, threatened the life of a woman holding her young child in Outram Rd, Hastings, before climbing into a nearby Mr Whippy truck, Hawke's Bay Today reported.

He then proceeded to make himself ice creams and hurled them at people on the footpath.

When police arrived he refused to be handcuffed and resisted arrest until back-up arrived.

Due to his level of intoxication he was unable to be interviewed at the time.

- NZPA

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10694692
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Posted: 21 Dec 2010, 12:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
the kiwis are in the headlines again

Armed man commandeered Mr Whippy van, court told

A knife-wielding man commandeered a Mr Whippy van and hurled ice creams at passersby, a court has been told.

Joseph David Banks, 21, pleaded guilty in Hastings District Court this week to a raft of charges including threatening to kill, resisting police, disorderly behaviour and possession of an offensive weapon. He was remanded for sentencing tomorrow.

Banks, heavily intoxicated and armed with a butcher's knife, threatened the life of a woman holding her young child in Outram Rd, Hastings, before climbing into a nearby Mr Whippy truck, Hawke's Bay Today reported.

He then proceeded to make himself ice creams and hurled them at people on the footpath.When police arrived he refused to be handcuffed and resisted arrest until back-up arrived.

Due to his level of intoxication he was unable to be interviewed at the time.

- NZPA

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10694692


lol course he did
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Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 6:51amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Power wristbands banned and refunds ordered by ACCC
A WRISTBAND claiming to boost strength, balance and flexibility has been exposed as a fake.

The ACCC ordered Power Balance Australia to cease marketing its wristbands with claims of boosted sporting performance, and demanded they refund people already duped by the purported benefits, reported the Herald Sun.

Sports stars from Brendan Fevola to Damien Oliver have been seen with the faux performance enhancers on their wrists, but their scientific credentials have been well behind their marketing.

ACCC chairman Graeme Samuel said the bands had been exposed as fake and warned people off them as a last-minute gift.

"I'm hoping they are not thinking it's a good idea," he said. "They cost a lot of money for something that may not do anything."

The wristbands were still available for $30 on Power Balance's website yesterday afternoon, but claims of their benefits had been removed, and would also be removed from packaging.

"You could buy rubber bands from the newsagent and have a fresh one every day of the year," Mr Samuel said.

Without the science to back up the claims, Power Balance was ordered to repay all buyers who felt they were misled.

Power Balance has admitted its claims had no credible basis and its marketing of the bands could have been misleading. It pledged to remove misleading representations on its website and product packaging.

Consumer group Choice this year called on Power Balance to prove its claims, but it took the ACCC until yesterday to resolve the matter.

If you would like a refund, contact the Power Balance refund line on 1800 733 436 between 9am and 5pm.



Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/power-wristbands-banned-and-refunds-ordered-by-accc/story-e6frfrnr-1225975249012#ixzz18sTe8UUp


You have to laugh at the idiots that bought these things with no scientific data to support the claims on the packaging..   Face Palm
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Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 6:52amSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh
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Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 7:23amSubject: Re: In The News Today
a dude at my work has one and he beleived in it so much, i couldnt even bare to break his little heart and tell him it was all fake

laugh

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Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 12:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Reindeer eat magic mushrooms to escape winter boredom, scientists claim

IT'S no wonder Rudolph and his reindeer pals can fly: scientists say they have found that the animals regularly eat magic mushrooms to get high, The Sun reported today.

Scientist Andrew Haynes says reindeer deliberately seek out the mind-bending fungi to escape the monotony of dreary, long winters.
 
Writing in the respected Pharmaceutical Journal, Haynes said: "They have a desire to experience altered states of consciousness."
 
"For humans a common side-effect of mushrooms is the feeling of flying, so it's interesting the legend about Santa's reindeer is they can fly," he continued.
 
Haynes also said that in some parts of the world herdsmen drink reindeer urine to get high themselves.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/reindeer-eat-magic-mushrooms-to-escape-winter-boredom-scientists-claim/story-e6frea8l-1225975319654



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Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 2:32pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
OpenBSD has FBI backdoor, claims contractor

Installed 10 years ago.


The cryptography of open source operating system OpenBSD was rigged with FBI-sponsored backdoors a decade ago, a former government contractor has told OpenBSD founder Theo De Raadt.

A 'backdoor' is an algorithm or rootkit written to allow a third party to bypass usual security controls and gain access to a system.

"I wanted to make you aware of the fact that the FBI implemented a number of backdoors," Gregory Perry, former chief technology officer at former government contractor, Netsec, told De Raadt in an email.

De Raadt on Wednesday published the emailed allegation to give others a chance to review the code and allow those claimed to be involved to defend themselves.

Code donated by Perry and his team for OpenBSD were for the "IPSEC" or internet protocol security component of the system, said De Raadt.

Perry claimed that EMC VMware evangelist, Scott Lowe, was aware of the backdoor and had been advocating OpenBSD virtual machines in VMware vSphere deployments because he was on the FBI's "payroll". Lowe, however, has denied the allegation.

Perry also warned De Raadt to review all code installed by former Netsec kernel programmer, Jason Wright, who is currently working on a security systems for SCADA for the government-run Idaho National Laboratory, according to his LinkedIn profile.

iTnews wishes to stress that allegations made against both Lowe and Wright have yet to be tested in any court of law.

Perry claimed the FBI paid Netsec to insert the backdoors which he was now free to disclose because a non-disclosure agreement with the FBI had expired.

The backdoors would allow the FBI to decipher encrypted traffic and were allegedly planted specifically to monitor the Executive Office for United States Attorneys' (EOUSA) VPN encryption system.

In an email interview with Computerworld security reporter Robert McMillan, Perry said his team were tasked with methods to reverse engineer smart card technologies and that he had led the implementation of the EOUSA's site-to-site VPN system.

He claimed the system was implemented at more than 235 Attorneys offices and has been "proved to have been backdoored by the FBI so that they could recover (potentially) grand jury information from various US Attorney sites."

Perry speculated that knowledge of the backdoor was also the reason the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in 2003 cut US$2.3 million in funding for the OpenBSD project.

De Raadt was unsure what impact the backdoors -- if true -- would have since the OpenBSD IPSEC code had undergone many alterations since the time the backdoors were allegedly installed.
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Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 7:00amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Blackwood Hospital shuts, 100 lose jobs

BLACKWOOD Hospital will close tomorrow and more than 100 people will lose their jobs on Christmas Eve

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/blackwood-hospital-shuts-100-lose-jobs/story-fn6bqpju-1225975557825


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Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 10:27amSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's a bit crap. Everyone will have to hotfoot it to Flinders Med, which already has huge waiting times. I know Blackwood didn't take emergencies but this will cause a few overcrowding problems.
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Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 7:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Reindeer eat magic mushrooms to escape winter boredom, scientists claim

Terence McKenna used to go on about this phenomenon a lot in his lectures. He discussed it at length in 'Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge'. Good stuff.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 11:16amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Women's tears a turn-off for blokes

IT seems men have a chemical reason to dread witnessing a female partner weep.

Israeli scientists have discovered that women's tears could contain a chemical signal that reduces testosterone levels and sexual arousal in men.

Male volunteers who took part in the study, conducted in the Middle East, sniffed either tears collected from women who watched a sad movie, or drops of saline trickled down the faces of the same women.

The men - who had an average age of 28 - that sniffed the real tears were more likely to consider women in photographs less sexually attractive and showed drops in their levels of physiological arousal and their salivary testosterone.

Associate Professor Dr Frances Quirk from James Cook University's schoolof medicine and dentistry specialises in health psychology.

Dr Quirk said the findings further highlighted reactions we might pin down to personality types, but are instead related to biological factors.

"For example, if a woman is in tears and a guy is behaving gently towards her, she may be inclined to attribute that to his personality," she said.

"You'll often hear 'he's a nice guy, he comforted me', but it's actually his biology pushing him to behave this way.

"We tend to layer on lots of additional attributes that are personality-based, rather than attributing it to evolutionary behaviour."

Dr Quirk said scientists had also established tears had a calming effect on men, creating a protective response

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/womens-tears-turn-men-off/story-e6frea6u-1225983343709

Who knew??  teef  laugh
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 11:28amSubject: Re: In The News Today
They obviously didn't include any rapists in that study.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 11:28amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oops teef
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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 laugh  classy
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 4:32pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 laugh

Oh dear.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 5:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
laugh
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
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Posted: 7 Jan 2011, 8:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

 laugh

 I actually made sure I used my phone for that post rather than my work pc
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Posted: 8 Jan 2011, 4:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
They obviously didn't include any rapists in that study.

 laugh
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Posted: 8 Jan 2011, 4:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Or any dudes that know the chance of conversion from crying girl to sex is about 10 times that of non-crying girl to sex! 
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 2:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
They obviously didn't include any rapists in that study.

rofl

reckon that's pretty much the first thing that came to mind for at least half of the people on this board i reckon. icon_wink
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 11:06amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Couple floating on dolls rescued on Yarra River

A COUPLE floating down Melbourne's Yarra River on inflatable dolls have been rescued after getting into trouble.

Police say the 19-year-old couple had just passed Pound Bend Tunnel at Warrandyte North when the water became turbulent and the woman lost control of her grip on the doll about 4.30pm (AEDT) on Sunday.

The woman grabbed hold of a tree that was floating in the river.

The man stayed with her and they yelled for help, police say.

A passer-by contacted triple zero and police and SES went to the scene.

A kayaker took life jackets to the pair and the SES attended with a boat and rescued the pair.

They were checked by ambulance officers but did not require medical attention.

Police say the fate of the dolls is unknown.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/couple-floating-on-dolls-rescued-on-yarra-river/story-e6frfku9-1225989207656#ixzz1BLX4UwjA
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Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 4:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
On the lighter side of things....

source = http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8200026/woman-to-sue-over-youtube-fountain-fall-video

Quote
A US woman may sue a shopping centre after security footage was published online showing her falling into a fountain while sending a text message.

Cathy Cruz Marrero, 49, wiped away tears during a US television interview about the embarrassing incident and criticised security staff for not helping her.

"I admit it was funny. But nobody took my feelings into consideration," she told ABC's Good Morning America.

"Nobody called, 'Are you okay?'. It shows in the video nobody went to my aid, not one single person went to my aid."

Two days after the accident, Marrero's nephew told her that video of her fall — which shows her tripping over a small wall and plunging into a pool of water — had been published online.

"I got a phone call Friday morning from my nephew and he's like, 'Do you know you're on YouTube?'" (Watch more: YouTube fall shame)

It is not known who published the video online but laughter can be heard in the background with somebody saying, "Play it back, play it back".

Marrero's lawyer James Polyak said they suspect an official in the security office posted the CCTV footage online after they allowed it to be videotaped with a mobile phone camera.

Her YouTube video has attracted more than one-million-and-a-half views.

Marrero, works in a store at the shopping centre in Wyomissing, Pennsylvania where she fell, said she was texting a friend from church when she tripped.

"I was totally embarrassed. I was like, well, I'm hoping that nobody saw me so let me just walk away," she said.

Marrero warned other people "do not text and walk".

After she appeared on Good Morning America yesterday, Marrero attended court for a status hearing on an unrelated incident dating back to October 2009.

She faces five felony charges including theft by deception after allegedly using her co-worker's credit cards to make purchases of more than $6000 at a Target and Zales jewellery store.

Marrero faces six months of house arrest and electronic monitoring if found guilty.

[video: www.youtube.com]


man people will sue over anything... your an idiot woman! watch were you walk, no one went to your aid because you got up 2 seconds later..

dumbass
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Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 5:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
it is security footage though.  Shouldnt see the light of day
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khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 5:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
whatever, happens all the time... at least this woman had a sense of humour about it

[video: www.youtube.com]

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Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 11:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Well well. Agree or disagree?

It's no surprise that the top 2 are also two of the least populated; of course the traffic will be lighter and services better when there's not so much stress on it all!


Adelaide crowned nation's most livable city


A national survey by the Property Council of Australia has ranked Adelaide as the nation's most livable city.

More than 4,000 residents of capital cities were asked to rank the importance of 17 key attributes, including school facilities, natural environment, public transport and traffic congestion, and how their city rated on each.

Adelaide achieved an overall livability score of just over 63 per cent, slightly ahead of Canberra which came in second.

The South Australian Government was also rated as the best performing, with 54 per cent of respondents rating its performance as excellent, good or fair.

The Northern Territory government achieved the lowest ranking of just 36 per cent.

Darwin has been voted the second least livable city in the country.

The survey shows residents think the city rates worst for good schools, health care services and affordable housing.

The survey also ranked Darwin as not having an affordable standard of living and as the worst aesthetically designed city.

Darwin residents ranked the city well for its road network and lack of traffic jams, good economic and employment opportunities, and a diverse range of people who get along well.

The Property Council says governments should use the survey to help provide better services.

South Australian executive director Nathan Paine says the survey will now be conducted annually.

"It's really about putting a spotlight onto Australian cities, saying that most Australians believe that we can support growth, but that population growth and economic growth has to be managed," he said.

"What we'll be doing is giving these results to the Federal Government and the state governments around the country and sitting down to talk with them about areas that need to be improved."


Least livable


Sydney polled the lowest score of just above 55 per cent.

New South Wales opposition planning minister Brad Hazzard says the Labor Government has let the residents of Australia's largest city down.

"Residents of Sydney, whether they're coming in on jam-packed trains - often not air conditioned - from the western parts of Sydney; drivers sitting in cars in traffic jams," he said.

"I think we all know that state Labor in its last 16 years has taken their eye off the infrastructure situation and we've all been left with a situation unfortunately where Sydney is slipping behind."
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 1:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
"The South Australian Government was also rated as the best performing, with 54 per cent of respondents rating its performance as excellent, good or fair."

Ahuh...
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 1:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
"The South Australian Government was also rated as the best performing, with 54 per cent of respondents rating its performance as excellent, good or fair."

Ahuh...

 :lol:

54%? Best in Australia? Far out. Rann would be loving this shit.
Get off my lawn.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 28 Jan 2011, 8:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
fucking kiwis lol

:lol:

NEW Zealand's spy agency failed to follow basic procedures when it granted security clearance to a top defence official who turned out to be a fantasist, Prime Minister John Key said today.

British-born Stephen Wilce was recruited in 2005 and appointed as chief defence scientist and director of New Zealand's Defence Technology Agency - after he provided a series of elaborate and extravagant lies about his past during the recruitment process, news website stuff.co.nz reported.

Wilce's false claims and vast exaggerations included that he served as a helicopter pilot with Britain's Prince Andrew, worked for British security services MI5 and MI6, played international rugby for Wales, was on a hit list for Irish terrorist group the IRA and competed against the Jamaican "Cool Runnings" bobsled team in the 1988 Winter Olympics.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/new-zealand-spy-agency-skipped-basic-procedures-when-hiring-british-fantasist/story-e6frfku0-1225996381090#ixzz1CKPbc25M
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Posted: 29 Jan 2011, 3:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
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Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 3:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :facepalm:
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011, 8:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
[video: www.youtube.com]


bit harsh... there was no way they could have possibly controlled this situation better.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 9:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:crazy:

Stallion semen has Kiwis raring to go for Hokitika Wildfoods festival


FORGET pig's snout and ram's testicles.

In the world of extreme food, shots of stallion semen are the treat du jour - across the Tasman at least.

Our Kiwi neighbour will be serving up glasses of horse semen at its famed Hokitika Wildfoods festival next month, a "delicacy" that racehorse owner Lindsay Kerslake says will have extreme foodies "raring to go".

"Horses are pure testosterone you know. They have hardly any cholesterol, so the idea is you knock it back and feel like a stallion yourself," Mr Kerslake, of Christchurch, said.

"You'll have as much zizz as a stallion for a week afterwards."

The NZ$10 shots won't be for the faint-hearted.

Even the organiser of the edgy festival, Mike Keenan, said he wouldn't be letting the drink pass his lips.

"God no, it's definitely not to my taste, but you'll be shocked how many people will go for it," he said.

The keenest will be able to drink it au naturel, but the shots will also be available in cherry, licorice and banoffee pie flavours.

"You often hear from a female perspective that semen has an awful alkaline taste, so we thought we'd better make it more user-friendly. Think of it like a milkshake," said Mr Kerslake, who is yet to sample the delight himself.

"And it's all safe - we're getting the semen in the same way breeders do, using an artificial vagina and storing it in the formula they use."

The drink, to be served up by women brandishing riding whips, will be washed down with a chaser similar to Red Bull but more aptly named "Powerhorse".

On the science, Mr Kerslake is vague.

"We're pretty confident tests will explain how and why it makes you feel so good, but that's still being worked on."

Regardless, he's confident he'll have Kiwis lining up - "there's a lot of nutters over here game for anything you know" - and he reckons he could tempt Aussies into giving it a go too.

"You tend to love our racehorses so why not their product," he said with a laugh.

The festival proudly promotes itself as the the most "outrageous food experience" in New Zealand, a claim that won it a place in Frommer's top 300 unmissable festivals in the world.

Past delicacies have included wild pig gut kebabs with fresh eel slime sauce, wasp larvae ice-cream, bull penis and a pig snout dish that was so effective at strengthening nails that one convert had to use her uncle's pruning shears to trim her toenails.

The festival will be held on March 12.
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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 3:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
that is seriously fucked up!  :spu:
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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 4:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bet buses from San Fernando Valley to LAX and flights from LAX to Auckland are booked out and extra charter flights are being organised to fly certain characters out from LA...
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 10:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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oliI am the
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 11:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wow.

Just wow.
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 8:32amSubject: Re: In The News Today
:facepalm:

Here I was thinking that leveling two of their cities with nuclear bombs was payback for Pearl Harbour?

Lol at the guy who spells wants as "wahn'ts". Oh and the guy who claims that Japan started World War 2. I guess he's never heard of Hitler and the Third Reich.

"Those damn krauts deserve to be hit by a earthquake tsunami for nuking Pearl Harbor"

There just aren't enough facepalms in the world for these people.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 10:52amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Let's not forget the Tokyo firebombing either which killed more people then the two A bombs put together.

 :facepalm: indeed
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 1:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I guess at least nobody wrote 'perl harbor'...
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 2:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
cmoooon san andreas!  :lol:
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 4:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I guess at least nobody wrote 'perl harbor'...

Sadly no, but someone did write "the japanizes" which is even better IMO. :lol:
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 5:18pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

 It's just a bunch of ignorant fuckheads.

 I am sure that there were a smattering of Japanese fuckheads posting shit when 9/11 went down

 In fact I am sure there are some Australian fuckheads posting similar stuff .
 
 Conclusion - there are fuckheads everywhere.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 5:26pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It's just a bunch of ignorant fuckheads.

 I am sure that there were a smattering of Japanese fuckheads posting shit when 9/11 went down

 In fact I am sure there are some Australian fuckheads posting similar stuff .
 
 Conclusion - there are fuckheads everywhere.

Yeah of course it's a small sample of morons. Chances are they could all be fake as well, we all know how this internet thing works. Still, just the thought of there being people thinking like that is major facepalm material.

Sounds like it's going to get worse too, the reactors are more unstable than first thought... :(

It also makes me disappointed that Japan has always been right up there on places to visit for me and now much of it will never be the same again.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 5:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It also makes me disappointed that Japan has always been right up there on places to visit for me and now much of it will never be the same again.

Much of it?

Why?
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 11:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Much of it?

Why?

Well there's significant damage to some areas and the country all over has suffered somewhat. So "much of it" will never be the same place again. It stands to get worse as well with all of the reactor troubles.
oliI am the
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 12:04amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Point re: possible further nuclear related problems is fair but if you let things that change a country like this reduce the chance of you visiting you'd quickly cut down your list of places to go. My parents have tickets booked for a trip later this year. Hopefully they aren't forced to cancel for whatever reason (highly unlikely I think).

Saw this posted elsewhere:

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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 2:48amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Point re: possible further nuclear related problems is fair but if you let things that change a country like this reduce the chance of you visiting you'd quickly cut down your list of places to go.

Oh, I still want to visit don't get me wrong. It's just something unique that I may have wanted to see/or that may have interested me that I don't even know about may be gone forever now and that sort of thing, hence the disappointment.
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Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 9:21amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Back together and smuggling all the beats

THEY'VE supported Lyrics Born, Roni Size, DJ Shadow, Jamiroquai, The Black Eyed Peas, De La Soul and now the Beat Smugglers are back.
The Adelaide band took an 18 month hiatus and the boys are finally all back in one place at the same time.

And it calls for a celebration with a special show at the Rhino Room tomorrow night. Doors open at 9pm.

Book at Venuetix.

Adelaide's DJ Patch will be dropping a set into the wee hours alongside Stephen King and BottleRocket DJs.  :fuslayer:




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Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 10:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:

 She had to hear mourners pray for her? Being in a coffin didn't raise any questions as to where she was?

The old dear probably didn't want to cause a fuss
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Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 2:11pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/9700966/woman-dies-at-her-own-funeral/

WOMAN DIES AT HER OWN FUNERAL

A woman who was falsely declared dead has died at her own funeral from the shock of waking up in a coffin.

The Daily Mail reports Fagilyu Mukhametzyanov, 49, had wrongly been declared deceased by doctors.

After hearing mourners praying for her, Mrs Mukhametzyanov woke up in her open coffin and began screaming.

Her husband Fagili Mukhametzyanov, 51, was reportedly told by doctors his wife had died from a heart attack at home after she collapsed suffering from chest pains.

The shock came when his wife woke up in her casket.

"Her eyes fluttered and we immediately rushed her back to the hospital but... she died," he said.

"I am very angry and want answers.

"She wasn't dead when they said she was and they could have saved her."

An investigation is continuing.

all the more reason to be an organ donor
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 5:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
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Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 12:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/bruce-highway-workers-toilet-stolen-police-have-nothing-to-go-on/story-e6frea73-1226083451181

"TOILET STOLEN - POLICE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON" :lol:

WORKMEN performing stabilising work on the Bruce Highway arrived at their North Queensland worksite yesterday morning to find their only portable toilet had mysteriously disappeared.

The yellow and aqua portaloo was last seen around 7.30am on Saturday morning at the worksite near Liverpool Creek, 30 minutes south of Innisfail, and was reported missing yesterday.

Police say at least two people and a truck would have been needed to move the portaloo, which was delivered to the roadside last Thursday.

Project manager Peter Reily said they were waiting on a new portable toilet to be delivered but in the meantime workers were having to travel about one kilometre to the nearest restroom.

“We’ve had gear stolen before, but never a toilet,” he said.

Queensland Police Communications officer Rod Vanderlinde said if apprehended the offenders would be charged with stealing, with the penalty determined by the condition of the toilet.

“If the property can be returned to the owner in exactly the same condition it was taken than the court may not order payment for damages,” he said.

“But if it has been damaged in any way the court can order restitution for cleaning and damage.”

Police said the toilet is worth about $2400 and are urging anyone with information to contact Crime Stoppers or the local police.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 12:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
haha awesome headline

:lol:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 7:50amSubject: Re: In The News Today
the voice on the Woody (of toy story fame) doll is Tom Hanks brother
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khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 29 Jun 2011, 8:16amSubject: Re: In The News Today
You only just found that out? I thought it had been common knowledge for years...

probably knew it and forgot it

:lol:

been a while since i have cared about the simpsons

:E
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 11:16amSubject: Re: In The News Today
the voice on the Woody (of toy story fame) doll is Tom Hanks brother
If that's true, he could make a fortune in voiceovers.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 11:24amSubject: Re: In The News Today
If that's true, he could make a fortune in voiceovers.

Its true.  Woody is played by Tom Hanks but the toys are done by his bro.


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CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 8:58amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Its true.  Woody is played by Tom Hanks but the toys are done by his bro.
That's funny as! Share the wealth.
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Posted: 1 Jul 2011, 11:03amSubject: Re: In The News Today
 Hopefully my brother makes it big so i can ride his coat tails.

 CMON WEEZ PULL YOUR FINGER OUT
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Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 1:01amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Only one way to find out.

What's your real name?
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 10:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Domain Name australianinteriorauthority.com.au
Last Modified 06-Jun-2011 15:23:40 UTC
Registrar ID Distribute.IT
Registrar Name Distribute.IT
Status ok
Registrant Draftfcb Melbourne
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Registrant Contact Name Adrian OHagan
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Tech Contact Name Adrian OHagan
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Name Server ns1.ayudahosting.com.au
Name Server IP 116.240.207.13
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Name Server ns3.ayudahosting.com.au
Name Server IP 74.207.242.70

and the guy is in marketing/advertising: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adrian-o-hagan/b/876/803

clearly some kind of viral marketing
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Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 11:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
girl at work stole my tuna

reckon i'll report her
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 11:47amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Tobacco company or new Videogame
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oliI am the
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Posted: 5 Jul 2011, 12:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Or movie...

Reminds me of the stuff for District 9.
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Posted: 7 Jul 2011, 12:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

HOUSEHOLDS and small businesses will have to cope with yet another price rise - a jump in the cost of gas.

The Essential Services Commission has agreed to an Origin Energy bid to increase its retail charges for standard gas contracts for 2011-12.

Households that use an average amount of gas will be slugged an extra $84 - up almost 14 per cent on the previous year. And small businesses will pay an extra $265 a year - up 10 per cent. That increase comes hot on the heels of electricity and water hikes for 2011-12.

The commission says Origin wanted an even bigger price hike than what was agreed.

And the commission has urged customers affected by the rise to shop around, saying in its report there were a "significant number" of more competitive market contracts available.

Households are already weighed down with a series of utility and cost-of-living increases for 2011-12. There will also be a $68 hike in council rates.

UnitingCare Wesley spokesman Mark Henley said the cost of essential utilities was spiralling out of control.

"We estimate that within three years a third of households in SA just won't be able to keep up with their utility bills," he said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/gas-price-rise-set-to-hit-families-next/story-e6frea6u-1226089349436

How convenient considering they have been basically making everyone swith from electricity to gas...... taken for a ride.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 7 Jul 2011, 4:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
How convenient considering they have been basically making everyone switch from electricity to gas...... taken for a ride.

what do you mean? switch your heating to gas?

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Matt AbstraxPosts: 384
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 9:02amSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8272204/salon-owner-kept-robber-as-sex-slave

SALON OWNER KEPT ROBBER AS SEX SLAVE :lol:

A man who tried to rob a hairdresser in Russia wound up being handcuffed to a radiator, force fed Viagra and kept as a sex slave for three days by the salon owner, a 28-year-old woman.

Karate black belt Olga Zajac felled Viktor Jasinkski, 32, with a single kick when he entered her shop in Meshchovsk, intending to rob her, the Daily Mail reports.

Jasinkski went straight to police after his ordeal, telling them Zajac dragged him into a back room and tied him up with a hairdryer cable.

She then stripped him naked and handcuffed him to the heater, feeding him nothing but Viagra to "teach him a lesson," he told police.

When police questioned the hairdresser she called Jasinkski a "bastard" for dobbing her in.

"Yes we had sex a couple of times. But I bought him new jeans, gave him food and even gave him 1000 roubles when he left."

Both Zajac and Jasinkski have been arrested.



oliI am the
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Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 12:02pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
1000 Russian rubles = 33.2856605 Australian dollars

:E
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 3:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
LOL adds insult to injury!

what was the injury? he got laid and then she bought him some jeans (probably after destroying the old ones in a lust crazed fury), fed him (sure it was just pills but I know plenty of people who have eaten nothing but pills for three days) and still gave him cab fare!!!  sure beats the hell out of lock up!!
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Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 7:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
what was the injury? he got laid and then she bought him some jeans (probably after destroying the old ones in a lust crazed fury), fed him (sure it was just pills but I know plenty of people who have eaten nothing but pills for three days) and still gave him cab fare!!!  sure beats the hell out of lock up!!

:rofl:
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 7:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
On first read of that headline I thought it was a drunk dog! Bit of a disappointment in the end. :lol:
pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 7:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Well you could say the dog was legless.

:E
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 8:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Had to laugh at the guy getting an on the spot fine for being hit by a car.  :lol:
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 8:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
you;d think being hit by a car would be punishment enough
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oliI am the
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Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 5:40amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Meanwhile in Sweden...

GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 11:50amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Well they do have a low crime rate there right?

Could be a slow news day...
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 3:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I find it funny that the man reported it.
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Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 4:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
A 29yo was found dead in an eastern suburbs street this morning ... but apparently there's nothing suspicious about that.  :eh:



Quote from: Adelaide Now
THE death of a 29-year-old man whose body was found on a grassed verge in Firle early this morning is not suspicious, police say.

The man's body was found at the front of a group of units on Marian Rd, near an intersection wtih Hampden Rd, shortly after 7am by a neighbour who was taking a walk.

Police say the man lived with four others at a property opposite where his body was found.

He was last seen alive shortly after midnight, police say.

A neighbour said the man lived at a rented house which he and four others moved into "a couple of months ago".

"They were good neighbours, we never heard any nose. I just saw them walk past, " he said.

Marian Rd, which runs off Glynburn Rd, is closed to traffic.

Police say there are no visible marks on the man's body, and a cause of death has not been determined.

Areport will be compiled by the coroner.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 7:57amSubject: Re: In The News Today
expert condom!
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khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 6:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
'Cassette Tape' removed from Dictionary

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1046821&c=1

Making way for the vocabulary of a new generation has led to the Concise Oxford English Dictionary removing ‘cassette tape’ from its pages.

Replacing old-school for new-cool will see words such as ‘retweet’ take a place on the dictionary’s pages instead as its editor-at-large Jesse Sheidlower branded the cassette tape “so past its prime that it was not worth keeping it in."

Cassette sales peaked in 1990, eclipsed by the rise and peak of CDs in 2000 which has now made way for digital music.

As of mid-August this year, cassette album sales stood at 22,000 according to Nielsen Soundscan.

Chris Muratore, vice president for merchant services and emerging growth for Nielsen Entertainment commented that although this is substantial considering the amount of new releases, that numbers are still miniscule in comparison to the rest of the market.


:fire:

pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 9:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Man, memories. I stole a backpack full of TDK chromium oxide ones from Woolies to make mass Liquid Swords copies for my friends.

:lighter:
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 2:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
'Cassette Tape' removed from Dictionary

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1046821&c=1

Making way for the vocabulary of a new generation has led to the Concise Oxford English Dictionary removing ‘cassette tape’ from its pages.

Replacing old-school for new-cool will see words such as ‘retweet’ take a place on the dictionary’s pages instead as its editor-at-large Jesse Sheidlower branded the cassette tape “so past its prime that it was not worth keeping it in."

Excuse the harsh language but that editor is a fuckwit. Either that or this is some elaborate troll.

Even if the technology doesn't exist anymore there will still be bucketloads of material that reference it littered throughout human history, e.g. the Watergate scandal; how do you explain that major event in future times if they have "removed" the word/definition from our lexicon. I'm not saying it that's easy to do as such but you see where I'm headed.

Hell, why not remove all those ancient countries and civilizations that existed in the past from encyclopedias and the like because they aren't around anymore either. :facepalm:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,704
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 2:36amSubject: Re: In The News Today
what the fuck is a retweet? A coffee junkie or something??

I cant see the point in removing words from the dictionary. Adding words, great, but removing words seems kinda counter productive. I mean whether we choose to use the word is a different issue to if the word exists
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GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 2:37amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oh and just read this: http://www.holytaco.com/oxford-dictionary-cassette-tape-future-children/

Gold! :lol:

Edit: Quoted for the lazy...

Quote
Oxford Dictionary Removes ‘Cassette Tape,’ Leaving Me To Explain What One Is To My Future Children


Hey Son,

I know you enjoy your ocular data Netflix streams and subsonic sound waves that play music in your brain that no one else can hear, but take a seat and listen to a tale about how your daddy used to listen to music and watch movies when I was your age.

When I was young, we used to have these plastic bricks filled with wheels and gears that would spin and churn as they passed along a ribbon of information that contained the movie or the music that we wanted to enjoy.  Even today I don’t quite understand how the information was saved on to the ribbon. We all pretty much agreed the process involved some sort of blood pact with a demon and we all just kind of accepted it, never questioning it, fearing the demon would steal our souls and trap us in our own, personal cassette tape prison for all of eternity, waiting for someone to pop the tape in to a VCR just so we could see the real world again, if only for a short while.

That’s another thing: VCRs. When we wanted to watch a movie we had to place the cassette tape in to a thing called a VCR. The VCR was this large black box that, when angered, would eat your cassette tape and never return it. It was a temperamental hell-beast, but it was a necessary one. How else were we supposed to watch Dark Crystal for the fiftieth time? Every so often, the VCR would request that we adjust what was called the “tracking”. Almost none of use understood what that meant. We simply did as we were told, pushing random buttons on the VCR’s surface until the wavy lines of scrambled image faded away and left behind ghostly doubled images and random patches of green and red on the screen. This meant the beast was dissatisfied with our handling of its hardware, and it was attempting to conjure terrifying images of our miserable futures to frighten us in to obedience.

As I only briefly mentioned earlier, the cassette tape was also used to store music. In order to listen to, say, the fifth track of an album, we had to fast forward to that track, making occasional stops along the way to make sure we hadn’t missed our exit. If we heard bongos instead of a wailing guitar, that probably meant we had traveled too far in to the territory of tracks that we never listened to because they were physically too far away from the first tracks that we always listened to and rarely heard anything beyond. Furthermore, the tapes were double sided, meaning there was one batch of songs on one side, and then the rest of the album was on the other. This led to much confusion, as none of us were ever entirely sure if the track listing printed on the side of the cassette that was facing us actually contained the song we wanted to hear. All in all, the process of finding the song we wanted to hear took about fifteen minutes, and it all amounted to a lot of dramatic build up if we were trying to play a specific awesome song from the cassette for our friends. It’s like telling your friends a joke that you find hysterical, only to get to the punch line and no one laughs. This led many to believe the cassette tape was some manner of a trickster god that took delight in watching us make excuses for why the song that took us a quarter of an hour to locate wasn’t actually that good.

Ultimately, it was a good technology – for its time. Sure, every once in a while the ribbon of tape within the beast would unravel and we would then have to re-spool the ribbon on to its gears with the eraser-end of a pencil or, in the case of a movie cassette, a thick highlighter; but the end result was a cassette that was just as a good as it was before, just now you can tell where the ribbon had bent and twisted in the unraveling/re-spooling process as the image or audio would suddenly go in to violent fits of media rage and distort the image or make the audio sound like the wicked soul trapped within the cassette were trying to open a portal to hell with an incantation spoken in demon tongue.

We were happy to watch the technology give way to CDs (which were these shiny plastic discs we liked to throw at each other) and eventually to digital media (which was a bunch of numerical coding that we liked to steal simply because it was so damn easy to). But people my age and older remember a time when we had to work hard to enjoy the crap we liked. Part of that pleasure was hating everything about the thing that gave us pleasure just so we could get to the part of our pleasure that we actually found pleasurable.

Now, run along and have your brain zapped by subsonic waves and make sure when you go swimming you don’t get water in your ears and fry out your neural implants.

You crazy kids with your fancy techno gizmos and whosiwhatsits.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 7:23amSubject: Re: In The News Today
it is being removed from the concise dictionary but will remain in the full one afaik
Matt AbstraxPosts: 384
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 9:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
APPLE Founder and Former CEO Steve Jobs has died:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-06/hold-hold-steve-jobs-dead/3317496

Silicon Valley pioneer and Apple co-founder Steve Jobs has died after a seven-year battle with pancreatic cancer.

The 56-year-old was diagnosed with a cancerous tumour in his pancreas in 2004 and has been on medical leave for an undisclosed condition since January 17.

"Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being," a statement on Apple's website read.

"Those of us who have been fortunate enough to know and work with Steve have lost a dear friend and an inspiring mentor."

Mr Jobs oversaw the company's most prosperous period, including the design and launch of the iPhone and iPad.

More to come.
pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 11:05amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Thai school's Nazi-themed parade sparks outrage

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(CNN) -- A Jewish human rights organization on Monday called for Thailand's Christian leaders to condemn a parade at the Sacred Heart School in Chiang Mai, Thailand, in which participating students wearing Nazi uniforms performed "Sieg Heil" salutes.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization based in Los Angeles, denounced the event, saying it was "glorifying Nazis."

Photographs of the parade show participants carrying a Swastika flag, performing Nazi salutes and wearing SS uniforms, while others dressed as Adolf Hitler complete with toothbrush moustache.
oliI am the
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Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 11:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Have to admit there's something funny about seeing Thai's dressed up like that. :lol:
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 10:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Have to admit there's something funny about seeing Thai's dressed up like that. :lol:

Nice greengrocer's aposotrophe there. :E
oliI am the
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Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 11:24pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
English is my second language. That's my excuse.
oliI am the
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 2:09pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Nobody will notice his passing but if it wasn't for him Apple would be a different (and probably a lot smaller) beast.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 6:34pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
What a headline! :rofl:

Urine, vomit and noise force Heaven's early closure on weekends


Well, there goes their business... DJs finishing at 1am on weekends isn't exactly what I would call a 'nightclub'.
MACROPosts: 1,197
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 9:30amSubject: Re: In The News Today
They must've had some clue to this happening, half of their DJ's had been given the sack in the couple weeks leading up to this.
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 11:48amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I used to look after a gorgeous penthouse in Ifould St where you could see St Pauls if you looked out the window. If I lived there I'd be livid about the noise the place pumps out as it would float directly over to the residences.

Glad I handed that property back now or I'd never get clients to stay there!
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 5:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I used to look after a gorgeous penthouse in Ifould St where you could see St Pauls if you looked out the window. If I looked after them back in the day I would have had sick recoveries as the noise the place pumped out directly over to the residences.

 *Edited by Millenium era Cait*
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writaPosts: 797
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 12:43amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What a headline! :rofl:

Urine, vomit and noise force Heaven's early closure on weekends


Well, there goes their business... DJs finishing at 1am on weekends isn't exactly what I would call a 'nightclub'.

any decent shows there at all cumming up? are they using downstairs too?
oh, and the people going to church next door every sunday didnt mind 10yrs ago ffs!
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CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 2:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
*Edited by Millenium era Cait*
Hah, yeah the old raver me would have said "Fuck the people living there, I just want to party!"
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 3:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I know this might seem a little 'conspiracy theory-ish', but bear with me!

A recent study by the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology has analysed the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations (from an original Forbes sample of 37 million companies and investors). The study is the first of its kind in the world; it uses complex systems theory to reveal the relationships between these companies, while providing solid empirical evidence to current economic debate.

The study has found that a select group of around 1,300 companies control 20% of global economic wealth. When the ownerships of these companies were more closely scrutinised, it was revealed that this group controls closer to 80% of global economic wealth. Essentially, corporation owners are buying their companies' goods and services through other companies that they own, hence shutting off outside competition and stemming liquidity (i.e. this money moves from one pocket to another, but never leaves the owners' control).

From this group of 1,300 who control 80% of global wealth, the existence of an even more exclusive group of 147 companies became apparent. This "super-entity" is entirely owned by investors within the exclusive group and is said to control 40% of global economic wealth.

One of the researchers has said: "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network."

I say: "We are all being publicly raped by an invite-only boys club."



Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 29 Oct 2011, 5:39pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
That isn't exactly exclusive to large multi-nationals. Heaps of companies start up subsidiaries to service the various needs of their business. It's just smart business. Why pay somebody else for something you need when you can pay yourself?
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011, 3:31amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Agreed, but at what stage do these people need to start seriously giving back? If you look closely at the list, I'm sure that most of us have somehow paid these companies for various goods and/or services. If we are paying these companies, but then these companies in turn primarily pay themselves, the public nest egg gradually gets smaller while the bourgeoiscracy get richer still.

I find it pretty exciting to live in the days that we do. A lot of people are waking up to the situation and we're seeing some pretty historic sights in the news at the moment. To have a study like this come out now is rather convenient, but it certainly sheds some interesting light on it all.
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 30 Oct 2011, 12:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Give back? They are the only reason we aren't all in the poor house. They give back by being the only people in the world who produce more wealth. They make things, which means there is more stuff in the world to trade, which makes the world richer. They give back by paying hundreds of millions of people's wages every week. People who actually produce stuff. Unlike government jobs, which are unproductive, and as such a net loss for world wealth. What they are doing is exactly how quality of life improves. Which it has done for the inhabitants of all bar 5 countries in the last 50 years. Even if you take in to account the monumental fuck up that was loosening standards at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Although the only people warning of the clusterfuck that would follow that BEFORE 2008 were people like Peter Schiff, Vox Day, people hated by this group of people "awakening".

Outside of that, nothing is exciting or new about what we are seeing in the media at the moment. 'twas ever thus. Now we are just more efficient at capturing nuggets of those who would like to think they can shift the zeitgeist one emotionally consistent but logically incoherent statement at a time, and manufacturing a narrative ready for your ingestion from the talking heads at 9 News and Today/Tonight Tomorrow at 6 and 7.

The reason that, no matter what system is in place, people with intelligence, talent, wherewithal, and/or a soupcon of psychopathic personality traits end up balancing the scales in favour of an oligarchic meritocracy is because of inherent human qualities that can't be controlled by external forces without unleashing a thousand little instances of The Law of Unintended Consequences. You may awake to each day anew, new challenges, new narratives. But don't be fooled, your world is not changing in the way you think it is. Ever.

"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 8 Nov 2011, 7:55amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Unlike government jobs, which are unproductive, and as such a net loss for world wealth.

Yeah this could be true, except for the fact it's not.

Australia, Norway, Switzerland - all countries known for strong government regulation and a high number of government jobs, are also the richest people in the world.

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Switzerland and Norway have emerged as the richest nations in the world in terms of average wealth per adult, which stands at USD 372,692 and USD, 326,530 respectively. They are followed by Australia, which is in third place with average wealth per adult of USD 320,909 and Singapore with average wealth per adult of USD 255,488. Figures for Australia and Singapore have both doubled in the last decade.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/news/en/media_release.jsp?ns=41610

How does your head get around this conundrum?
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Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 1:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Give back? They are the only reason we aren't all in the poor house ... What they are doing is exactly how quality of life improves.

I admit that capitalism has given the world many of the great things we hold so dear, so don't assume that I'm against the concept. I feel that there needs to be greater transparency and legislative changes to avoid the current situation reoccurring in the future. Our financial and employment systems in Australia are pretty damn good and I feel that workers here do reasonably well for themselves. However, in the US -- which let's admit is the source of this entire argument -- I argue that the system is broken, controlled by greed and it has huge effects on social, financial and government systems the world over.

When you say "What they are doing is exactly how quality of life improves", I see your point but simply cannot consider this a truthful statement. My father worked for Mead Paper for almost 30 years. He's an electrical engineer and mainly repaired specialist machinery at paper mills in my hometown in Massachusetts. Gradually, the company sent more and more jobs overseas because it was cheaper to produce the same product elsewhere -- hence increasing their profit margins. In the end, the company completely closed one of the mills and the other reduced production to only specialty products (brake pads, kitchen laminate, etc.). With a town population of 6,500, almost 150 full-time jobs were lost. My dad was one of the lucky few who kept his job, but he was forced to make great changes. From working full-time in the same role for almost 3 decades, as a 50-year-old he was forced to either resign or move to the bottom of the pecking order and work 12-hour shifts, 6 days per week on concrete floors in a freezing climate. It was physically breaking him, but he still felt fortunate for at least having a job (which is more than most of his longtime friends and coworkers could say). He had around a year and a half banked up in leave entitlements and considered resigning and using this time to reestablish himself elsewhere. Before he did, though, the local mills were sold -- to two of the original board members for $1. This change of ownership meant that all workers' leave entitlements and contracts were voided and the workers were forced to sign onto new bullshit deals that fucked them over in every way possible. Rather than hire more workers to reduce the working hours and physical and mental stress on the existing workers, the company knew that they had full control of their workforce the more they worked them into the ground.

So, if you honestly believe that "What they are doing is exactly how quality of life improves", then I'd like to know how my father aging 10 years in the space of 1 is improving his existence in any way. I'd also like to know how a majority of local small businesses in my hometown (which have existed for several generations in many cases) having to close their doors due to companies like Wal-Mart moving in, is actually helping to improve anyone's quality of life. Sure, Wal-Mart employs a great number of people (1% of the American workforce actually), but the average annual salary of their staff is US$20,744 -- below the official $22,000p.a. poverty line. This is despite 2010 sales of $400 billion, profits of $15 billion and a market value of $200 billion (Business Insider). The only individuals truly benefiting from such a situation are those at the top, raking in those profits -- not their workers living below the poverty line, not the countless small businesses forced to close their doors and certainly not general America who buys discounted Wal-Mart products from China and, in turn, continues to close business's doors in their home country.


Outside of that, nothing is exciting or new about what we are seeing in the media at the moment.

Granted, technology makes these incidents more accessible to the world, but seriously...?!

84-year-old woman pepper sprayed at Occupy Seattle
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Pregnant woman miscarries days after incident: Jennifer Fox, who was pepper sprayed during the march last Tuesday, alleges that police officers hit her twice in the stomach


Legislators to hold hearing on UC protests, police response
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Russell Simmons Makes Historic Announcement
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timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 25 Nov 2011, 10:01amSubject: Re: In The News Today
love one of the comments on youtube

"Eeeerrllliike a glove!"

 :lol:
oliI am the
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Posted: 7 Dec 2011, 12:00pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Look at the footer of the news.com.au page:

Copyright 2011 News Limited. All times AEDT (GMT +11).

So I ask, is your News Limited? :E




Get it? Limited? :facepalm:
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 7 Dec 2011, 8:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oops. :lol:


'Mythbusters' Says 'Safety Protocol Followed' on Set That Shot Cannonball Into a Dublin Neighborhood


A cannonball that was misfired during the filming of an episode of  "Mythbusters" struck a Dublin Ranch home Tuesday afternoon then careened across a busy road and ended up inside a van parked in a driveway.

Amazingly, no one was hurt in the 4:15 p.m. incident during which a 5.5-inch projectile struck a two-story home on Cassata off of Old Westbury Way near Tassajara Road in east Dublin.

Apparently, the cannonball went through the house while the occupants were asleep, then exited the structure and bounced across Tassajara and into a parked car, breaking its glass and landing inside the vehicle.
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 1:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Awesome!
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
GlockPosts: 9,856
Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 6:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Underworld appointed musical directors for Olympics opening ceremony.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16068946

Let's hope they have some awesome acts and not the usual crap that gets trotted out at these things (e.g. Shakira, etc.)

There's a lot of great musical talent from the UK so I'd be hoping they put together a crazy lineup of classics and new artists, guys like Elton John would have to figure in there I reckon but hopefully with Underworld's input the amazing influence of the UK on electronic music will be recognised in some way.

It's funny...I'm actually looking forward to an opening ceremony for once!
headachePosts: 7,888
Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 8:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Tiesto was at the opening ceremony for 2004, so seeing as it's England, Andy C? :lol:

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pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 11:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Some proper rave bollocks would be great.

The Olympic flame could be a giant glowstick.

:xmasslayer:
oliI am the
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Posted: 9 Dec 2011, 3:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cauldron lit by a sea of ravers holding lighters in the air FTW!


  :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter:

I was thinking more along the lines of riot police herding rioters into a cauldron... :P
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 4:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
This is so crazy, it might just work

Japan Unleashing Packs of Wild Monkeys to Test Fukushima Radiation

Problem: nobody knows just how bad the radioactive contamination is at Fukushima, nine months later.
Prediction: still pretty bad.
Solution: send in a bunch of monkeys armed with radiation meters and GPS collars, hope for the best. Let's do it!

http://gizmodo.com/5867763/japan-unleashing-packs-of-wild-monkeys-to-test-fukushima-radiation
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 4:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

 Sounds like the plot of King Kong 2.


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khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 4:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
what could possibly go wrong? apart from developing a race of super strength mutant monkeys?
oliI am the
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 4:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
To be honest I'm surprised they haven't already resolved everything with an army of awesome robots. :E
headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 10:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today


Thanks Japan...
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:17amSubject: Re: In The News Today
thank fuck these guys cant shoot! Four shots at close range, three fired from one person at a table of people and hits the table and only then do the guys getting shot at think "ah shit he just shot my ravioli" and return fire.
"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
khemPosts: 16,652
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:18amSubject: Re: In The News Today
worst hitman ever

:lol:
oliI am the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Err I think it'd be better if they could aim.

a) then they'd actually wipe each other out slowly.
b) less risk of stray bullets hitting civilians.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
why does one dick head shooting at three dudes eating pasta count as gang violence? I mean gang affiliated or associated violence but not gang violence
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oliI am the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:48amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What's the difference exactly?
pedroPosts: 272
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:49amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Shooting in North Adelaide... In a restaurant this time.

There are two places doing abortions up there. You'll always have anti-AB nuts and this was always gonna happen one of these days.
oliI am the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
There are two places doing abortions up there. You'll always have anti-AB nuts and this was always gonna happen one of these days.

Back of the restaurant? :E
khemPosts: 16,652
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:54amSubject: Re: In The News Today
are you talking about the red and blue cafes?

:lol:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:56amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What's the difference exactly?
imo gang violence requires at least one gang to be present at the scene of the violence, gang associated violence is the violence committed by gang members on behalf of the gang

There are two places doing abortions up there. You'll always have anti-AB nuts and this was always gonna happen one of these days.
:lol:
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oliI am the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 8:58amSubject: Re: In The News Today
So how does a gang member commit violence on behalf of the gang if they aren't present at the scene?
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 9:06amSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol
a gang member having a fight in a pub with someone is not gang violence
him going back there with his posse and lynching the guy who broke his nose is.
A pack of hombres belting someone outside of a night club is gang violence
one hombre belting someone because they owe his crew coin is gang affiliated violence
imo
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oliI am the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 9:08amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sounds pretty bloody complicated to me.

headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 3:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wasn't Dear Leader supposed to be immortal?
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 5:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
kim john il has died from roneriness

Whether you riked him or not, a rife has been rost. And it wasn't from roneriness, either -- it was a heart attack.



Kim Jong Il Dead at Age 69

North Korea's officiar news agency reported Monday that Supreme Reader Kim Jong Ir has died at the age of 69.

The Korean Central News Agency said the recrusive reader died Saturday of a heart attack whire on a train for one of his "fierd guidance" tours.  The agency attributed his death to "physicar and mentar over-work." 

KCNA said his funerar will be held on December 28 in Pyongyang.  A period of nationar mourning was decrared from December 17 to 29.

Kim Jong Ir came to power after his father, North Korea's founder Kim Ir Sung, died in 1994.  Reriabre biographicar information about Mr. Kim is scarce.  He rarery appeared in pubric and his voice was serdom broadcast.

He may be best remembered for defying the internationar community and boosting North Korea's nucrear program, whire mirrions of his countrymen and women were starving.

Rate rast year, Mr. Kim promoted his youngest son Kim Jong Un to the rank of four-star generar, in what was seen as a bid to extend the world's onry communist famiry dynasty to a third generation.

The KCNA on Monday urged peopre to forrow Kim Jong Un, who is berieved to be around 28 years old.
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 6:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today

 Team America is awesome.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 3:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sweden legalizes and regulates cannabis

Stockholm, December 19 - The Swedish Parliament has approved a law which will regulate the growing, usage and trade of cannabis. This is according to the Health and Social Services of Sweden, Jonas Grönhög, who was quoted, "We don't want to make the same mistakes which the USA has done, we do not want to be prohibitionists because the war on drugs has been lost long ago. It is better to prevent marginalization of young people than jail them for soft drugs usage which are comparatively harmless. If we allow the sale of alcohol, there is no reason to ban the soft drugs no longer."

Cannabis products are going to be available in the pharmacies in Sweden as non-prescription medicine since April 20 in 2012 and customers more than 18-year-old can buy 10 grams at once.  Growing for personal usage will be tolerated up to 200 grams of dried marijuana and larger amounts stay illegal. It is likely that this will target the Police resources on more serious crime, especially on organized crime, drug trafficking and trafficking in human beings which have been increased for lack of the Police resources in recent years.

Source: 420 Dagbladet, Stockholm, December 19 2011
headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 4:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Don't even touch the stuff anymore, but it's good to see common sense prevail.
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headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 4:17pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
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oliI am the
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Posted: 4 Jan 2012, 1:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's rather disturbing
pedroPosts: 272
Posted: 4 Jan 2012, 2:24pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :dance:
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 9:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not really news, but it made inthemix... HOLY SHIP!!!

I went on Jam Cruise last year, which is a 6-day music festival on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. The 10th Jam Cruise just returned to port, but before it departed the crew threw the inaugural Holy Ship! (a 4-day cruise on the electronic tip). The line-up featured Fatboy Slim, Craze, Laidback Luke, Rusko, Diplo, A-Trak, Steve Aoki, Skrillex, Buraka Som Sistema, plus heaps more.

I don't care if you're into these acts or not, I can guarantee this shit is one of the craziest parties you will ever find anywhere. If you happen to be near Miami in early January, you absolutely must experience this. A couple of the promoters told me last year that they're considering introducing an Australia/NZ version in the future...  :cross:

More photos here, some NSFW.
oliI am the
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 9:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Are you a good looking guy? Do they only let attractive people onboard?
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 10:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm a great looking guy, to which my mother would happily attest!  :E

Jam Cruise mainly attracts jam band fans, hippies and artsy/creative folk, while Holy Ship! is more for the modern raver kids. If you can afford the ticket, you are accepted as part of a special community. It doesn't matter what you look like -- if you're up for a good time and you treat those around you well, then you're a part of it all.

These are some of the pics I took last year on JC: here and here.
oliI am the
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 10:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Those links don't work for me.

How much does it cost?
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 10:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
My privacy settings must be blocking you... see if these links work: here and here.

Jam Cruise cost us around $1500 each. This included a room, 24 hour food (including a 4-star restaurant open for dinner every night), festival entry (6ish stages with music available almost 24 hours), entry to two countries (we went to Mexico and Honduras, but the destinations change every year) and all of the amenities of a 3-year-old luxury cruise liner. Between my wife and I, we drank plenty all week long and ended up only paying about $450 total over the bar (most beers and wines were $3, premium/imported beers and wines were $4, cocktails were about $6.50 and tips are included in the prices). When you consider you could easily pay $1500 just on hotels and food for 6 days, I found the price extremely reasonable. Holy Ship! is even cheaper because it is shorter and only visits one destination (this year was the Bahamas).
khemPosts: 16,652
Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 12:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Police Affirms Mum’s Right To Confiscate PS3 Until Piano Practice Is Finished

The police in Lake Oswego, Oregon, a Portland suburb, pride themselves on the motto “no call is too small”. And they took one, yesterday, that comes straight from the Sheriff Andy Taylor manual of community policing.

Yesterday, an 11-year-old picked up the phone and dialed 911 to report that his mother had taken away his PlayStation 3 on Monday — a school holiday observing Martin Luther King Jr’s birthday — and would not return it until he practised piano. The dispatch operator patiently listened in to his pleadings, assessed the emergency and then calmly advised the boy that police would not be on the scene momentarily.

“Your mother can do that,” they said.

Indeed she can

http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswego/index.ssf/2012/01/lake_oswego_boy_calls_police_a.html

:lol:
khemPosts: 16,652
Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 6:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/25/demi-moore-whip-its-nitrous-oxide-seizure/

Demi Moore's friend called paramedics Monday night after the actress inhaled a dangerous amount of nitrous oxide ... TMZ has learned.
 
Sources tell TMZ ... one of Demi's friends who was at her home told emergency workers Demi was doing whip-its. A whip-it is a street name for a type of nitrous oxide inhalant.

The friend said she became upset when Demi had a reaction to a whip-it and lapsed into semi-consciousness.

It appears Demi had symptoms of a seizure -- after inhaling the nitrous.

A whip-it is not a common drug among people of Demi's age and social status. It's typically used by younger people who are looking for a cheap thrill.
oliI am the
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Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 11:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
GI Jane can't handle the NOS.
pedroPosts: 272
Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 7:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/25/demi-moore-whip-its-nitrous-oxide-seizure/

Demi Moore's friend called paramedics Monday night after the actress inhaled a dangerous amount of nitrous oxide ... TMZ has learned.
 
Sources tell TMZ ... one of Demi's friends who was at her home told emergency workers Demi was doing whip-its. A whip-it is a street name for a type of nitrous oxide inhalant.

The friend said she became upset when Demi had a reaction to a whip-it and lapsed into semi-consciousness.

It appears Demi had symptoms of a seizure -- after inhaling the nitrous.

A whip-it is not a common drug among people of Demi's age and social status. It's typically used by younger people who are looking for a cheap thrill.

Always great to see senior citizens sucking down bulbs.

On the other hand, how soft is she?
oliI am the
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Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 7:34pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm with khem.

She's not soft.
GlockPosts: 9,845
Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 9:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm currently reading a book all about the revolution that occurred in Hollywood from the young producers and directors of the late 60s and the 70s that spawned all those great films like The Godfather, Chinatown, Star Wars, etc.

Back then NOS (in conjunction with MDA) got around a fair bit and there was one guy who threw heaps of parties that had a gas company install a massive tank in his living room cupboard! He said the company would just come around and fill it up like they were a water company bringing water cooler bottles around.

They love it in Hollywood lol.

Here's the book if anyone is interested: http://www.amazon.com/Riders-Raging-Bulls-Sex-Drugs---Rock/dp/0684857081/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327667177&sr=8-1
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Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 6:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
baloons filled with nos and helium (not in the same balloon) makes for a good giggle and squeek party
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Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 2:10pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
image not archived: 2RHXN.jpg  :lighter:
headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 2:26pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
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Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 3:15pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
 :lol:

Nice.
headachePosts: 7,879
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 11:03amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Quote from: Christwire.org

Skrillex Uses Satanic and Homosexual Influence to Win Grammys

Skrillex, a Gothic icon and Lesbian fashionista whose name is Latin for “Homosexual Satan Wasp”, is the biggest act in Dubstep today — a music genre founded on consuming massive amounts of drugs and having raucous pre-marital sex with numerous partners — and his winnings at the 2012 Grammys prove that his satanic presence will be felt for years to come. As long as Skrillex wins Grammys and is accepted by mainstream media, he will claim souls for Satan and molest our children through his perverse philosophy of futuristic devil machine music.

Skrillex is the inventor of “dubstep” whose sole purpose is to provide a “drop” — common youth terminology for procuring and snorting drugs. In addition, the rhythm patterns he employs in his “music” are known to cause seizures to certain people, which provides ample opportunity for other concert-goers to rape said afflicted person(s).

Skrillex, a known emosexual, was born Sonny Moore. He rose to fame with the satanic Rock ‘n roll band “From First To Last” (a band name that celebrates falling from God’s grace) and soon parlayed that success into something much more blasphemous; something that incorporates elements of Warhol-era rampant homosexuality and perversion, electronic “music” and lesbian-influenced haircuts. It is rumored that 1 in 3 women are raped at a Skrillex concert and forced to abort their children soon after.

Over 100% of homosexual gays listen to, or have listened to Skrillex in their life — mostly while participating in door-to-door recruitment for sex orgies or attempting to molest children in one of the patented “Rape Vans” used by the gay homo community.

In addition, Skrillex has launched a grotesque fashion trend, where upon weak-minded woman destroy their hallowed vessels of child birthing by SHAVING the side of their head — the same thing responsible for the downfall of Samson is being ENCOURAGED by this gnome-ish pervert. Skrillex will stop at nothing to get every teen in America hooked on dubstep and “ecstasy” (a potent street drug responsible for terrorism).


(Skrillex, shown here drinking “ecstasy”, in particular the potent “X3″ version)

As a proud parent of four, healthy, able-bodied children, I urge all fellow parents to think thrice before allowing their own children to attend a dubstep show. These shows are full of unemployed “Occupiers” who seek to rape and maim your children and family life.  Skrillex fans are MORE likely to rob a gas station and set a retirement home on fire than 1000% of Christians.

Please join with me in boycotting dubstep and this evil, satanic harbinger of deceit.

http://christwire.org/2012/02/skrillex-uses-satanic-and-homosexual-influence-to-win-grammys/

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
GlockPosts: 9,845
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 1:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder how many Christians actually go to Christwire.org and think it's a legitimate voice for their cause. :lol:
oliI am the
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Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 1:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Hah that's great!
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Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 1:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
(Skrillex, shown here drinking “ecstasy”, in particular the potent “X3″ version)     :lol: :lol: :lol:
"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
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Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 2:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder how many Christians actually go to Christwire.org and think it's a legitimate voice for their cause. :lol:

:lol:

It's scarily close to how militant Christians actually are.
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
GlockPosts: 9,845
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 2:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Speaking of militant Christians, I was just looking up something yesterday about storing honey and it led me to a website devoted to the "end of times" with tips on how to stock your bomb shelter with medicine and goods to prepare for the coming apocalypse, what weapons and other items to keep for defence, etc.

Kinda interesting yet also quite disturbing.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 6:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I posted some stuff up about Jam Cruise and Holy Ship! recently. After the first HS! in January, they've already sold out the second trip next year... in just 28 hours. :jawdrop:

Hard's Holy Ship! 2013 Electronic Music Cruise Sold Out in 28 Hours

[video: www.youtube.com]
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 10:26pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
see the cop who hammered that guy at the SCG was cleared of any wrong doing! I mean the guy was being held down by 4 security so he obviously needed to have his teeth knocked in, legally
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Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 10:36amSubject: Re: In The News Today
see the cop who hammered that guy at the SCG was cleared of any wrong doing! I mean the guy was being held down by 4 security so he obviously needed to have his teeth knocked in, legally

Apparently there is other footage of the guy attempting to grab one of the cops gun..
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Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 1:57pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Apparently there is other footage of the guy attempting to grab one of the cops gun..
I would to if I was being held down and punched fuck out of!
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