Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 3:49pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
And yet it's legal to chop off puppies tails :(
2007The SMF boardIn The News Today (page 5)
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
Who Cares What Everyone Else Thinks!
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
I agree surely it cant fucking hurt them that much?
I agree surely it cant fucking hurt them that much?
yep is illegal my rotty has his tail which is like a kangaroos tail stupid as rule why make it illegal specially if it can possibly help there health when they are older but gettin his dew claws taken of is legal
by Prof. Dr R. Fritsch , Leader of Clinic of Veterinary Surgeons
yep is illegal my rotty has his tail which is like a kangaroos tail stupid as rule why make it illegal specially if it can possibly help there health when they are older but gettin his dew claws taken of is legal
by Prof. Dr R. Fritsch , Leader of Clinic of Veterinary Surgeons
:E
i don't agree with piercing cats.
i don't agree with piercing cats.
Good article but Jesus, I wouldnt go that far...
That's right, I hate how they tag cows ears too! It would hurt more for a cow to have a hole punched through it's ear than it would for a kitten to have it's ear pierced with a proper piercing needle.
It happens all so quickly though I dont think it would hurt that much. As long as it is done quickly, i.e. like getting a humans ear pierced, it cant be that bad- can it?
Fuck oath.
Seriously toughen up you sooky cunts, they probably go through a tiny bit of pain for at most 24hrs! If thats the worst thing a cow/cat has to endure for its life then I think its going pretty well..
Hes charming that John :lol:
I was talking about the cow tagging not the kitten piercing before. I shouldve clarified that.
Cow tagging is necessary IMO for cattle markets. Emo cat piercing is not
Whatever, it'll heal.
Arent we all equals? Therefore whats good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak?
Oh god, thats a pandoras box right there.. imagine cats getting equal rights in the work place..
If they don't like it they can always do something about it.
Remember kitty, it's down the paw not across. Nine times!
used to work with a dude who was one of the kids Liddy touched up. Such a nice guy but he was so messed up and his life was hell.
How am I going too far? I'm not saying I respect it yet, just that my level of respect has gone up a smidge. :lol:
Ninth body found after Santa's killing spree
December 27, 2008 06:34am
A NINTH body has been recovered from the charred rubble of a Christmas Eve massacre as sketchy details emerged about the gunman responsible for the deadly killing spree.
Los Angeles County Coroner's office confirmed a ninth body had been found in the wreckage of a home in the LA suburb of Covina, where a man dressed as Santa Claus opened fire on revelers late on Wednesday.
The gunman, Bruce Pardo, 45, burst into the party at his former in-laws' home and sprayed guests with bullets before setting fire to the house and later taking his own life.
Pardo had recently gone through a bitter divorce with his wife - who was reported to be among the victims - but there were no further clues as to what may have triggered the murderous rampage.
The unemployed aerospace engineer had no criminal record and nothing in his personal history to suggest a predisposition to violence, police said.
Friends from a church Pardo regularly attended expressed disbelief.
"He was just the nicest guy," said Jan Detanna, who worked with Pardo as an usher at the Holy Redeemer Catholic Church.
"He always had a smile. It's a shock. A shock for anybody who knew him at the church," Ms Detanna told the Whittier Daily News.
Grief-stricken friends of the victims on Thursday described Pardo as a "coward".
"To know that one individual, one coward, could bring so much devastation and heartache to a family," said family friend Rosa Ordaz.
Police said Pardo knocked on the door of his ex-wife's parents' home just before midnight, where 25 people were gathered to celebrate Christmas Eve.
An eight-year-old girl who answered the door was shot in the face before Pardo stormed into the home and began gunning down revelers with bullets fired from a semi-automatic handgun.
After party-goers fled, Pardo torched the house with a bizarre home-made incendiary device before making his getaway.
Pardo's body was found with self-inflicted gunshot wounds on Thursday, a few hours after the rampage, police said.
He had been killed by a single shot to the head at his brother's home in Sylmar, approximately 40km away.
Late on Thursday, a rented car parked outside the property was found to contain 300 rounds of ammunition and a pipe bomb.
The car burst into flames as bomb disposal experts moved in, reports said.
Police had received a series of emergency calls alerting them to the initial incident, and when they arrived the house was engulfed in flames and guests were running out.
Neighbours reported hearing a loud explosion before the blaze erupted.
Two girls, including the girl who answered the door, were hospitalised with gunshot wounds and a 13-year-old girl was treated for injuries that were not life-threatening.
Authorities have yet to publicly identify those killed by Pardo, but local media reported the victim's ex-wife and in-laws were among the dead.
It was not clear if three people at the party who were missing on Thursday had been accounted for.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24846529-5005962,00.html
:xmasslayer: :E
guilty!
I'm OK, cheers man.
I've been there a couple of times before, it was a decent joint, it seems the band had some fireworks cranking on stage that lit up the stage curtain. Bloody stupid.
We actually entertained the thought of going there last night, we could get free tickets or something.
Lucky eh?
Fixed.
Haha, prick. I was the captain of an indoor cricket team once..
Marijuana's a helluva drug!
Fuck me... surely any NBA player can at least pay some hoochie to suck his dick while driving.
I think it'd be more concerning if he was smashing into houses and stealing people then blowing them up and having sex with them...
Woah, what's even more bizarre about that is the fact he DIED in a car accident!
Lost a bet (not surprisingly) with a freight train...
Tight, real skin feel vibrating holes.
:lol: :lol:
Children are reported to make up a third of victims who have been killed in Gaza.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/08/2461367.htm?section=world
helped no end by Hamas well known technique of deliberately keeping themselves amoungst and launching their actions from within civilian populations, sadly.
i read something the other day where a muslim women screamed "may allah exterminate all hamas" or something similar, after finding her dead daughter in hospital. made a change from the usual hordes rabidly screaming "death to all teh joos"
for sure its fucked up. both sides have blood on their hands.
i saw a couple of pictures in the ABC coverage/gallery - one of a heap of muslims praying in gaza, the other of a jewish soldier praying next to a tank before the next assault.
summed up the situation perfectly imo.
That is awesome... Pity the kid seems like a complete twat and will no doubt not last till 2013 without driving.
i'll chip in a coupla bucks.
Haha this judge is awesome. Kid seems like an absolute tosser though. If I were Mr Maloney and I'd seen that little shit go outside and pose for a photo like that, I'd have gone ape shit on his face with my gavel.
u can pay for it? Shit I thought it was produced as an art
Zak & Miri Make a Porno?
That was hilarious!
Further proof that you are without a sense of humour.
Ending sucked, but reunion scenes were awesome.
Brandon St Randy fucking killed me.
actually you could be onto something there. i had her rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter the other night and i'm not even funny.
Case in point, really. You certainly aren't funny.
Fuck that, they should stop lying, GTFO of their land, Simple.
Fuckers have been playing everyone for fools for YEARs, going to camp david sucking on the yanks dicks, promising to support a peaceful resolution process and to give back illegally/unlawfully obtained land whilst continuing to build NEW 'settlements" on said land...
Then they cry foul when the rightful owners of the land throw a few fucking rocks (rocks, rockets same thing >.>) at their tanks and ream them with overpowered blanket airstrikes on civilian targets.
BTW Hamas is a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POLITICAL PARTY, not a bunch of terrorists/extreemists... At worst their militant wing = freedom fighters IMO.
Solution is simple, Israel gives back the land they fucking STOLE and acknowledges the sovereignty of arab nations beyond the borders drawn up in 1948/49 instead of playing Shylock.
LOL
i really only understand about 5% of that post but fuck it's funny
fucking lol
Agreed.
actually you could be onto something there. i had her rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter the other night and i'm not even funny.
Come on now, you can't take ALL the credit for Laser Cat! LOL I am still tempted to add that photo as my avatar!!!
You are a dream boat Toblerone. *swoons*
'God save you . . . yeah, that’s great.”
FUCKING LOL!
bahahah
Even better to see him completely fuck up a word right at the end (forgot the word unfortunately).
"Misunderestimated"
then teabagged them.
2 head shots, nice...
:teefthumbs:
That actually sounds like a wing of the nazi party.
They'll argue that calling the child that is child abuse.
Because the kids parents are blue collar rednecks with no money, they won't fight it in court unless some lawyer with a bee in his bonnet about freedom agrees to represent them.
wont be a jewish lawyer! :E
there was a case in NZ a few years ago where a fucked up bogan couple had a child and tried to name it 'fucking cunt' - it was taken away from them before they were due to leave the hospital even.
that kind of shit is pretty depressing when you consider the huge responsibility of raising a child and giving it the love and nuturing it needs and deserves.
Who are you to say Fucking Cunt and Aldof Hitler won't be loved as much as anyone else?
Yeah.... I love Fucking Cunt :E
this all started a while ago. Saw an article last year that it was the kids birthday so they were getting a cake made for him, but the bakery refused to write Happy Birthday Adolph Hitler on it
well, thats providing it's the same kid lol
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Bumping my previous photochop for relevance
christ...
Pretty damn lol
lol i do
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The dude is a stoner and yet can still win olympic medals... I think he needs a medal for that!
Agreed whole heartedly!
Respect! :lighter:
that's more like it!
There you go...
Way to go Cops - Saving the world one pill at a time.
Do they honestly think getting people for possession makes a huge difference to the world? It must be like shooting fish in a barrel.
:lol:
why not just come back with " Ban news paper reader comments there just fat old people who need a bowl of sauce to go with the chip on their shoulder" ?
reminds me of the time at the supposed last big day out ever ("six & out" 1997) when we rang up bob francis pretending to be an old cunt who lived in wayville complaining about all the stoned hippies around the place 'leaving evidence that theyd been fornicating everywhere' while actually managing to get bong noises broadcast to all the listeners... hehe, still have the recording
You should have seen the fucking 'anti-drug' campaigner commenting on the morning show. This story really boiled my blood. What the police are doing is conversely socially and ethically WRONG. Then I had to listen to my Nana going on like a porkchop. Meh.
You could give the guy his own thread.
Has anyone seen the John Safran short film he did on him about 5 years back?
I might try to Rip it & you tube it
I am withholding $950 from my taxes if it's going to go to people so they can buy another sport jersey and tattoo.
cool. I'll let the know ATO
Couldn't you take that $950 and do a course in hydroponics or something? At least then I could get discount weed for my tax dollars.
Just a thought...
I'd never do that shit. My body's a temple
Do I get $950?
I am going to put it in war bonds and municipal shares.
No idea - I'm sure you'll get something though. The rest we can pony up ourselves.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=XbXNuWzcleY
includes everyone except those with a property portfolio
looks like we get a cash payment twice! nice...
No.
dont fuck with me... really? *gets hopes up*
From the PM's website:
Key measures funded by today’s Nation Building and Jobs Plan include:
* Free ceiling insulation for around 2.7 million Australian homes
* Build or upgrade a building in every one of Australia’s 9,540 schools
* Build more than 20,000 new social and defence homes
* $950 one off cash payments to eligible families, single workers, students, drought effected farmers and others
* A temporary business investment tax break for small and general businesses buying eligible assets
* Significantly increase funding for local community infrastructure and local road projects
Doesnt say anything about defacto is all...
Wow, that's heaps similar to me...
I'm investing in a shotgun and canned goods.
I'm going to buy a Government Bond just so the bastards have to pay me interest on the $950 they gave me. I advise you all do the same. This is your one chance to screw over the Government at their expense!
:lol:
No it wont be, but it's still the government paying me interest on money they gave me in the first place. It's the principal of the thing :lol:
now there's some perspective for the parents out there!!
nice find Anna :thumbsup:
"Professor Nutt's academic work does not prejudice that which he conducts as chair of the ACMD."
Sorry what? Shouldn't it be that his position at the ACMD does not prejudice his academic work? His academic work should absolutely prejudice decisions made at the ACMD, otherwise it was pointless hiring the man. He studies the effects of drugs on people for a living and yet he is not to be informed by the results; I fear logic may be decaying in the wake of the political.
"Prof Nutt added: "This attitude raises the critical question of why society tolerates - indeed encourages - certain forms of potentially harmful behaviour but not others such as drug use."
How awesome is that quote.
:lol:
everyone knows pills are shit in the uk though
i thought it would have been impossible to make her forehead any bigger, seems i was wrong...
:E
:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
could land an Apache Helicopter on that thing
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agreed!
Rihanna's dad imo
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Here's a pic of her soulmate
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Rob Frost?
Salma Hayek breastfeeds African baby
February 11, 2009 03:45pm
HOLLYWOOD star Salma Hayek was so taken aback by the plight of an African woman who was unable to breastfeed her child that the star breastfed the newborn herself.
The incident was captured on camera in Sierra Leone by a television crew from US TV show Nightline who Hayek allowed to accompany her on the goodwill trip in September.
See the Nightline footage here
Nightline have aired the footage on their program and YouTube clips have been circulating the internet, prompting a divisive response from bloggers and parenting websites.
The 42-year-old actress, who was nursing her own daughter Valentina at the time, offered to help when the baby's mother stopped producing milk.
"The baby was perfectly healthy, but the mother didn't have milk. He was very hungry. I was weaning Valentina, but I still had a lot of milk that I was pumping, so I breast-fed the baby.
"You should have seen his eyes. When he felt the nourishment, he immediately stopped crying," said Hayek.
The actress and UNICEF spokesperson visited the West African country in September as part of her involvement in the fight against tetanus, one of the reasons Sierra Leone has the highest infant and child death rate in the world.
Yeah no shit, most guys eyes pop out when Salma unleashes her boobs. :lol:
geez, thats heaps weird.
logical but really weird and slightly disturbing.
http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=16193
Even then, you'd be spending time cleaning it off the underside of the kayak, gloves and mask style, then you'd have to dispose of the cleaning cloths properly.
I saw that theory posted elsewhere as well. Does a half empty pool of crap/rubbish really look any better or worse than a lake covered in toxic algae?
Yes, a lapse in concentration which leads to an accident.
Do you know why car accidents are called accidents? Because people aren't concentrating or they make a mistake, which causes an accident. Do you know why aircraft accidents are called accidents? Because something stops working the way it should, which causes an accident.
You can go and quote as many sources as you like, misinterpret everything you read, and type up posts three times longer than the average AM post but it doesn't make you any more convincing. An accident is defined clearly in any dictionary as something unintended with a negative outcome.
You are so wrong it isn't even funny. You've taken a word which basically everyone understands and turned it upside down. If something is out of human control we might call it an accident, but we're far more likely to call it an accident if it does involve human control (or rather, lack of it). If there's a flood that's out of human control do we call it an accident? No. We call it a natural disaster. If some idiot bursts a dam or opens a weir because there is a lack of human control (in this case because some incompetent idiots didn't do their job) then it's an accident. I doubt very much that someone intended/wanted the weir to open and drain Torrens Lake.
I can't believe you constantly go and twist any post then write up all kinds of random stuff, most of which has no direct relation to the discussion at hand, and expect to be taken seriously. Please do us all a favour and at least acknowledge the meaning of words in the English language: that'd be a step up for your posts.
I'm trying to learn from my said mistakes that you accuse me of making, by doing what everyone else is doing. Each person are themselves, that is NOT a mistake.
Car and aircraft accidents rarely replicate themselves in exactly the same ways do they ?
If people don't learn from their MISTAKES ( not accidents, mistakes bro, ok!!!!! (yuh "ding-a-ling" :E :shake:) the first time, then if the SAME THING happens AGAIN, it is NOT AN ACCIDENT...
what do you reckon ?
Nature doesn't make mistakes Oli.
The only reason for this is because nature has existed far longer than ANYTHING else on this planet, or indeed in the universe.
At least acknowledge the meaning of words in the English languageYou mean blindly accept the "meaning" of a word that will be archaic before we die ?, f%$k no...
your asking ME to conform to a concept that has no actual authority, forget that.
No-one has a choice of whether they are born into this world or not.
It therefore gives everyone a choice and a right to question pre-ordained language structure and the PRESENT relevance of that language structure AND the way in which it's used to describe things.
My point, still holds consideration
(Sometimes words are "invented" to describe things that they, at the time(back then), didn't have a proper understanding of.)
This is a forum with about , what a few thousand members ?
Statistically, my so called "interpretation" of things around me isn't a "twisted" as you or anyone else may think.
Just becuase i consider things in more than one language, in more than one mid-set and in more than one country, doesn't mean everyone will agree. i KNOW that, it is NOT my intention to "act" this way, this is HOW I AM.... relax.....ok ?
If that is true then humans never make mistakes as humans are "natural systems" and everything they do is as nature intended. Thus the torrens thing must have been an accident!!!
"However, our present inability to forecast the eventual toxicity of developing blooms means that management of algal blooms has to assume the worst case scenario for toxin production. That is, it is assumed that all cells present are highly toxic,when in reality they may not be. This current gap in knowledge may greatly increase the cost of managing algal blooms."
"While our knowledge is far from complete, there is now a considerable understanding of the role of eutrophication (nutrient pollution) and river regulation (including effects of water abstraction and of impounding water behind dams and weirs) in the development of blue green algal blooms."
"A number of techniques that reduce stratification are used to inhibit the development of blue green algal blooms. These include maintaining sufficient flow in rivers to reduce stratification, particularly during periods when blue green algae are likely to develop. Water mixing devices such as pumps, paddle wheels and aeration units have been deployed to reduce stratification with various levels of success"
check the rest if you want
http://www.ema.gov.au/agd/EMA/rwpattach.nsf/viewasattachmentpersonal/(C86520E41F5EA5C8AAB6E66B851038D8)~Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf/$file/Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf (http://www.ema.gov.au/agd/EMA/rwpattach.nsf/viewasattachmentpersonal/(C86520E41F5EA5C8AAB6E66B851038D8)~Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf/$file/Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf)
It also states that blue-green algae is a natural occurrence in Australian waterways anyway, so it's another excuse, for the councils to treat it as a "see-saw" (flip-flop) attribute, of urban waterway and stormwater management.
There's no conspiracy theories involved.
Sometimes it's difficult for anyone to realise that some people in positions of power, regardless of the knowledge and resources available, or what their staff out there in the field, report back about, just seem to want to twist and warp the data or reports to their own ends, helping no-one understand the overall problem in the process.
Consequently, striving to do nothing and use politics and rhetoric at that, to "talk" their way out of the problem. That and mismanagement in the first place. Proving they are incompetent to act otherwise.
Trust in your instincts sir, this was no "accident". It was a last resort, or a lapse in management and maintenance scheduling.
What was it if it wasn't an accident? A lapse in management and maintenance scheduling is incompetence and led to an accident. What else are you supposed to call it?
You say There's no conspiracy theories involved. but then you say It was a last resort. Make up your mind.
Anyone who thinks this was some grand secret conspiracy is delusional IMO. A stinking half empty lake full of crap is just as embarrassing as a lake covered in algae to an incompetent council..
That is completely believable. :)
Right ......
So if you trip over because you can't watch where you are going that isn't an accident?
You can think of it as a cloak term if you like, I don't care - any dictionary will show you it isn't though.
Friendly tip for Mr3rdeye:
When posting you dont need to tab new sentences or have caps/bold/italics/.../epic essays/quoting all over the place.
would be much more readable otherwise
You say that like it's my "goal" or something, cheap shot mister.
Bye then. :wave:
Make sure that you have fun, conforming to things you don't want to contribute to the improvement of and don't wish to further or fully understand the origin of.
cha :goodvevil:
Nature has evolved over million and millions of years, deathmaze...
Learning and un-learning things that were conceptualised before we existed, and at the same time, is paramount to learning itself.
And we have to "learn" how to learn in the first place too. My "choice" of language and how i "choose" to use it to communicate, really, is not as cryptic as it's made out to be.
We have no idea what nature determines as mistakes or not. But anything that f%$cks with nature on a human level, IS a mistake, in my opinion.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=the+meaning+of+evolution&btnG=Google+Search&meta= (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=the+meaning+of+evolution&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)
My uneducated guess is, that nature developed into what we see today, and will continue to develop as it's a self contained system, that can, sometimes be "toyed" with by it's inhabitants.
The Torrens thing was not a mistake of nature, it was a mistake of humans, that refuse to accept the current limits, boundaries and mechanisms of nature. Which in itself is a mistake, or perhaps an oversight, on behalf of a conscious species, with the ability to CHOOSE.
But because humans have a conscious, we are self aware and should know that we can't blame nature for "our" mistakes.
We as a species, have yet to understand whether nature has it's own conscious or not.
Therefore, trying to attend blame of our ability to make mistakes onto nature ( as nature CAN exist without humans, on this planet, believe it or not ), is in my opinion, deliberately avoiding our own capacity for self-regulation and taking responsibility for our own actions, decisions, thoughts, ideas and motivations.
Thanks for the tips Sal, :wave: thanks for the advice everyone, :wave: i DO actually take it on board, my mind is a sponge.
If anyone can ignore the fact that "i'm an idiot", without emotionally thinking "but, he's an idiot!" and read what i post in the voice of someone you trust, admire or respect, then that will also help you.
I might be considered as "the bad apple" on here. But know that i'm not the only one in the world.
Great analogy. A sponge absorbs water then it slowly drips out or dries out.
I wonder if it was a mistake
or an accident...
hmmmmmmmm. ? :E :music: :aargh:
Nice.... :lol: :clap: :lolslayer:
agreed, fukn morons
They should tighten the defection rules so that there are no cars on the road without ABS then this wouldn't be so important in the first place.
No not at all.
If all drivers were required to PHYSICALLY perform a threshold stop in training then dickhead proof brakeing systems would become obsolete.
When was the last time you heard of a race car driver out brake them self on the road?
ABS has only been common on cars in the last 10 years. Anyway, if people don't maintain their cars for instance they might have bald tyres and stuffed brake disks.. ABS won't make a difference there (you'd be surprised how many people couldnt give a shit about their car). I'd rather take a well maintained car without ABS than one that's falling apart with ABS.
Yes, my comment about defecting vehicles was not directed at cars without ABS only. I don't know why you'd imply that it was. I am aware that bald tyres and other problems with vehicles make them unsafe as well, that is obvious.
Vehicles which are poorly maintained should also be defected. If there was a genuine effort to reduce the number of older relatively unsafe cars (due to a lack of safety features) on the road and tighter controls on vehicle maintenance then the roads would be less unsafe. I am sure we all know this.
If our restrictions were anywhere near as tight as those in many Western European countries I think a significant proportion of cars on the road in South Australia would be defected immediately.
Are you serious?
Both of the main kids saying it might be theirs have also said it could possibly be any of their friends too...
Guess she's like the town bike with training wheels.
Because that's what it is :lol: Quite a few tests I've read in motoring mags have shown if you know what you're doing, you can stop a car in a shorter distance without ABS than with it.
I'm with Catastrophic here, what we really need is to make it far, far, far harder to actually obtain a license and far more traning needs to be done with Learners before they are let loose on the road. In places like Finland, every driver is taken out on skid pans etc... as part of their basic driver training. Here they can be taught things like how to control a sliding car, how to swerve to avoid objects at high speed etc... You can't safety proof everything, and I believe everybody should be trained to know what to do in a car if it does go pear shaped.
Countries with much stricter licensing/training requirements also have stricter controls on vehicle safety. The two aren't mutually exclusive. It's not a coincidence that the countries which produce the safety vehicles are the countries with the tightest training programs (and those with weather conditions which make driving more dangerous). The two go hand in hand to help reduce the risk of accidents, or the risk of injury if there is an accident.
I'm not disagreeing with anyone about how we need tighter licensing rules. I completely agree with what you've said about needing tighter rules.
Even with better driver training, people can still make mistakes. Even with better safety features, people can still make mistakes. You said it yourself that you can't safety proof everything.
If you and catastrophic are suggesting we train everyone to a level which makes all modern safety features (or even just ABS) on vehicles redundant/unnecessary then I completely disagree.
I don't really care what some rev-head motoring magazine says. If the motoring industry is bringing a safety feature in as standard and the countries with the tightest rules about vehicles are doing their best to get vehicles off the road which don't have safety features like ABS then I'd consider their position more independent and valued than some magazine article which is probably written by someone who has been driving/racing professionally for decades.
I agree, but I'd go a step further and say we need to get more shitty old or poorly maintained vehicles off the road at the same time; an equal amount of effort should be put into these things.
Nobody really gives a stuff about those slappers.
I think the main reason this case made the papers is because the boy looks so young, even for a 13 year old. Made for a good photo to chuck on the front page and sell a few extra issues.
Would that save any lives though? At most it may prevent 10 fatalities a year which is sweet fuck all or the amount of time & money implementing such a plan would take.
The majority of fatal accidents are caused by 2 things - alcohol & reckless driving. Making young drivers do such training won't change this. It may prevent a few bingles and rear end crashes and what not but I just can't see how it would lower the road toll in any way.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline. Our roads are full of kids driving cars with a fair chunk of power but rubbish handling - it's a recipe for disaster. It seems that every second fatality seems to be a teenage driver on a country road where speed was the main cause. I don't know what can be done to change this but imo if you get young drivers out of such vehicles the road toll will reduce.
Doesn't Japan have some law where you have to update your car every few years or something?
true
but just the same though, if you make having a drivers licence more like a privilege than a right, people might actually respect it more and not risk losing it. power to weight ratio limits for people under 25 wouldnt hurt either (similar to restrictions on motorbike engine sizes)
there are clearly way too many fuckwits on the road these days. maybe less drunk drivers, but eclipsed by the number of tools driving fast cars like wankers. its no wonder parents seem more scared to let their kids walk out on the streets and to the park etc these days.
That part is easy. Make it cost 10x more to get, AND put in place the restrictions already discussed. :)
It may not, however if said kids know what is going to happen if he/she tries something stupid (because he has tried it in controlled conditions before and seen what resulted) it may be enough of a deterrent to try it on public roads.
Completely agree with you on the Old Jap car point though. We need power to weight restrictions for P platers for sure. Just having a power cut off point is ridiculous, as it may prevent a kid from driving a Commodore whilst they can jump straight into the drivers seat of a Lotus. :lol:
A bit more mature though, maybe likely to make better decisions.
i question that purely on the state I've seen people on this very board drive in
there's light years more maturity in a 19 year old compared to a 16 year old... and bigger steps up again to 25 etc.
too many times when i was 16/17, shitscared, stuck in the backseat of someones car who's driving 70km/h through roundabouts.
:lol:
So true.
Being one of the only sensible ones in our group of friends I notice it even more.
:rofl:
Well maybe if half the board got their licence then the other half wouldnt have to drive them round in that state! :E
really? i soooo hope they do. have been hoping that for a long time.
i'm 22 and i only just got my P's in december. didnt feel ready or capable of handling the responsibilty when i was 19 let alone friggin 16.
when your 16 i just dont think driving is a responsibilty you should have, for so many reasons.
no matter how old you are when you start, yes you will be an inexperienced driver but you (hopefully) will have grown up a bit, gained some maturity and life experience that will help you make better decisions on the road when you have your, your passengers and other road users safety to think about.
Exactly! Dirty scumbag.
You should get some cards made up.
That would be beyond awesome.
Council sits tight and waits for rain
Article from: The Advertiser
DANIEL WILLS
February 23, 2009 08:40pm
ADELAIDE City Council has resolved to do nothing to refill the Torrens Lake and will wait for rain and groundwater to slowly pour back in.
Last night's decision came just hours after the State Government dumped plans to pipe water from the Riverview Quarry as tests revealed "extremely high" sulphate levels that would decimate the ecosystem.
During the announcement, City of Adelaide Minister Jane Lomax-Smith said the council would have to go "back to the drawing board" and find a "creative solution" to replenish the lake, which has been a muddy bog since it was drained by a weir malfunction on February 11.
The lake is currently refilling at 35mm a day, but that rate is expected to slow in the coming weeks. Without rain, the council's "best forecast" is for the lake to be full in 30-40 days.
But hydrologist Professor Craig Simmons told The Advertiser last week groundwater alone probably would not refill the lake.
"The lake's natural state is largely surface water, my gut feeling is the lake will not refill itself with groundwater," he said.
Findings from an Environment Protection Authority report released yesterday likened the impact of releasing the quarry water into the lake with a major diesel spill.
Small invertebrates could be wiped out completely and the entire river system would remain polluted for up to two years, it said.
"The advice we took from the EPA has been absolutely conclusive. They believe it's not a suitable type of water to use in the Torrens Lake," Dr Lomax-Smith said.
"We know that the Torrens Lake is not pristine water in any case, but one would not like to fill it with water that would add to its dilemma in term of blue-green algae and other pollutants."
But Dr Lomax-Smith said the Government might reconsider the quarry option if a major rain event sufficiently diluted the toxins.
Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the situation was "unfortunate", but the council would continue with its clean-up program which had already pulled 17 tonnes of rubbish from the lake's bottom.
"As the levels gradually rise, council will also be undertaking a series of revegetation plantings and will progress its carp eradication program within the Torrens Lake to reduce the possible incidences of algal blooms," he said. "We intend to commence this planting while the water level is low, and the current situation presents a window of opportunity for this."
Adelaide City Council is continuing investigations into how the weir gate was opened.
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Crap... heres hoping it rains before Groove! Gonna be nice and stinky otherwise.
that is legendary, done it twice... bad man!!
:slayer:
Haha lengend!
not necessarily, i think ten or more of the kids were taken out by caeserian?
:lol:
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
:lol: your an ideas man arent ya Khem :biggrin:
lol already been done I believe
Or at least had sex with a dismembered corpse of some sort.
Oh hell yeah. Munting is massive down south.
i hear max hardcore is in jail, shame
There is something seriously wrong with the legal system when an upstanding member of the community like him could go to jail.
That's what I thought when I read the story... was it the size of a real car??? :eh:
Thats what it sounds like.. The parents should be held resposible if that is the case... as if something like this wouldnt happen with a 6 year old @ the wheel... :eek:
:rofl:
:lol:
OMFG That brings back memories!
Six-year-old boy pins himself repeated to wall with remote-controlled car
a full size remote controlled car??? wtf??? :eh:
Looks like it was a 300ZX with remote start on its alarm/turbo timer. Sounds like the kid was standing in front of the car and it was in gear.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:lol:
i read something from some experts on this thing, basically saying the west has dropped the ball on pakistan and should be putting more help there as its a far greater risk than just afghanistan.
sobering thought.
even just a handful of tactical or strategic nukes limited to pakistan would have a devastating impact on all of south east asia, leading to starvation, mass migration, civil unrest etc.
stupid fucking muslims need to taste some bacon love, realise the world is a great place and calm the fuck down
Exactly!
Do you have any idea of the number of uptight vegos ive known who couldnt hack it anymore, splurged on smoked & spiced pork products and relaxed? even angry lesos after playing a couple of tunes on the spam javelin suddenly shave their pits, grown their hair and wear a bra. you can only begin to imagine what it could achieve with psychotic fundos!
I'm sure that's what half this board thought when they first heard of it :drool:
whatever methface
Woooooooah
I knew I had a good sleep last night, but not that good.
What else did I miss?
i have never thought of it like that.
Everyone's thought of it like that
I thought that when I read the article yesterday too.
Niccccce
i was just talking about this with the missus last night
seems a fair few of these mrs robinsons get off (so to speak) without going to jail, but i cant recall a single time where the male teacher got spared some hard labour.
is it because there are more than a handful of judges who put themselves in the boys shoes and think "you lucky bastard" and feeling it would be sour grapes to send her to cell block H?
where are the feminist activists fighting for equal rights, and fair trial and all that junk?
maybe theyre all secretly rooting 12 year old boys?
i dunno - am i brainwashed in that even to me, an older chick shagging a younger guy isnt as bad (though 12?? jesus how small must his tockley have been? lol) as a male teacher sneaking off for a bit of hide the sausage with a female student?
maybe putting myself in his shoes i cant help but think GO FOR IT MY SON!
She has a son of similar age I believe, just to put it in perspective.
Now this is bullshit. This part here should be used to indicate that the murder was of his own will. He voluntarily walked out of a hospital that would have treated his condition and his actions made his condition worse, resulting in the attack.
It's like letting someone off for murder if they take a bunch of drugs and kill someone in a psychotic episode.
The initial step that led to their frame of mind being in that dangerous state was of their own free will.
Deserves serious respect IMO.
BTW the last few posts
LOL
thats a whole lotta perspective there, thanks
LAME
YouTube blocks music videos
March 10, 2009 10:00am
YOUTUBE will block all music videos from being viewed in one of the world's biggest internet markets, after it was unable to reach a deal with a royalty collection group.
The world's largest video sharing website said PRS for Music, a British collection society that collects royalties on behalf of nearly 50,000 composers, was asking it to pay "many, many times" more than the previous UK licensing agreement that expired.
"The costs are simply prohibitive for us – under PRS's proposed terms, we would lose significant amounts of money with every playback," the company said.
The move is the latest sign of the tension between YouTube and the music industry.
It also indicates that YouTube is resolving to keep operating costs under control as it strives to generate profits for owner Google.
YouTube said PRS was unclear about which songs would be included in the renewed license.
"We've been talking to them for a long time and we're still talking to them," said Patrick Walker, YouTube director of video partnerships for Europe, Middle East and Africa.
Mr Walker described it as a "painful decision".
But PRS disputed YouTube's version of events and said it was caught by surprise by the announcement in the middle of ongoing negotiations.
"We were shocked and disappointed to receive a call late this afternoon informing us of Google's drastic action," said PRS for Music chief executive Steve Porter.
PRS said in a statement it was "outraged" on behalf of consumers and songwriters by YouTube's move.
"Google has told us they are taking this step because they wish to pay significantly less than at present to the writers of the music on which their service relies, despite the massive increase in YouTube viewing," the London-based organisation said.
The PRS statement pointed out that Google saw its revenue grow to $US5.7 billion ($9 billion) in the last quarter. The figure will likely be juxtaposed against the fast dwindling fortunes of the music industry.
Some rights-holders argue YouTube should pay a higher fee or share more advertising revenue since many users come to watch their music videos.
The deal between YouTube and PRS is separate from YouTube's relationships with major record companies, which have also been strained at times.
YouTube and the music industry have had an awkward but mutually beneficial partnership.
On one hand, label executives acknowledge that the popular video site is the way many people discover new music, especially as the power of radio and MTV wanes.
But with the industry seeing plunging CD sales, the labels hope that YouTube will also serve as a key revenue source.
Interesting bargaining method. If they do it globally it will probably be quite a successful bargaining method as well.
The same thing happens in Sudan, the kids and women who live in villages have to go and hide together in the cities at night as they aren't safe in their own homes.
And the west essentially doesn't give a shit about it. That's just as bad IMO.
True, the rest of the worlds response to the Rwandan massacres was utterly shameful and so obviously racist.
What do you mean? Theyre black!
Exactly! If they kill eachother then we won't have to do it later
75% chance of a great night there imo
Yeah I am not really a fan of LSD, lasts too long.
any real mother would!
I heard about this. She was left with a nasty gash apparently.
That's bullshit! How do you paralize a police officer, have it filmed and get away with it?! Poor bastard was just trying to do his job and keep the peace. Thanks Andy.
Lesbian arrested for allegedly attempting to forcibly inseminate wife with turkey baster
NEWS.com.au
March 18, 2009 04:18pm
A WOMAN in a lesbian marriage has been arrested in the US after allegedly attempting to forcibly inject her brother's sperm into her wife.
Stephanie Lighten, 26, allegedly threw her wife Jennifer Lighten, 33, on a couch in the couple's home in Pittsfield, Massachusetts and threatened to impregnate her with "a turkey baster" filled with semen from Stephanie's brother kept in a sealed container, letzgetreal.com reports.
The "turkey baster" was a large syringe with a catheter tip, according to police who confiscated it.
They also confiscated a container of semen donated by Stephanie's brother, Nicholas Lighten, and some aluminium that also apparently had contained the semen.
According to Jennifer she struggled with a "liquored up” Stephanie on the couch who grabbed at Jennifer's clothes.
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Jennifer ran to the bathroom and locked herself in but allegedly Stephanie broke down the door.
Jennifer then fled from the house and started to drive away in the couple's 4WD vehicle but was halted when Stephanie jumped on the side of the car.
A witness at the scene claimed Stephanie “was hanging on the SUV door handle, trying to get into the car".
Police arrived and arrested Stephanie.
Jennifer Lighten has declined to press attempted rape charges because she does not believe Stephanie seriously intended to impregnate her.
Stephanie been charged with domestic assault and will be required to attend the Central Berkshire District Court on April 29 for a pre-trial hearing.
Yeah, not being able to feel empathy for someone who sustained injuries that left him permanently paralysed and mentally impaired, just because they are a police officer, shows a puerile disdain for authority figures.
I make it a habit to not form too many opinions about verdicts, as I am well aware that the media never represents any of the complexities of a case, but I cannot see how you could regard the police man in such a negative light given the few details that have been presented.
So what?
Tasering looked pretty acceptable given the situation. Those cunts were going nuts.
If someone has heart problems they should probably stay away from situations like that.
Anyway - Can't really judge unless you're there but I would hate to be a cop in the world we live in these days.
Excatly.
As the proud son of a former police officer of 40 years dedicated service I do not feel in the slighest bit sorry about saying "You'll get yours you cunt"
What part of this doesn't sound like making light of the fact a police officer has been assaulted by a pack of thugs and left paralysed for the rest of his life. All for doing his job in trying to protect the public.
You need to be a little less thensthitive.
i dont want to make light of this situation (nor yours) either, but we cant exactly pretend that all cops have a completely clean sheet, have never acted like thugs and have never paralysed or even killed innocent people before.
christ, one of my colleagues left the police force because he said he was too regularly sickened by the behaviour of other cops. the peverse delight taken in 'sticking the boot in' was all a little too common for him. maybe they just dont make cops like they used to
and no offence, but maybe someone on the receiving end of one of those beatdown sessions decided "you'll get yours cunt" too.
But the guy is utterly insane...
I mean, he went from primary school teaching to the police force in the first place because he couldn't handle kids (or possibly the fact he was unable to shoot them)
But do say hi to Simon from me though
he is a nutter, but a kind hearted one with a not so secret love of asian porn
he had some great stories about the times working as ashepherd for the porch monkeys cop in elizabeth though!
Michelle Owen charged with bestiality over dog sex video
Article from: The Advertiser
March 22, 2009 11:10am
A WOMAN demanded police search for computer for evidence her ex-boyfriend had looked at child porn - instead they found videos of her having sex with a dog.
Michelle Owen, 24, of Indiana in the United States, has been charged with two felony counts of bestiality after the police found two incriminating videos in the computer's recycle bin.
When an officer told Owen he had found videos of her on the laptop and asked if she knew what they were, she replied: "The one with the dog."
The videos showed her engaging in a sexual act with her pet beagle Toby.
Owen claimed she made the videos when she was drunk and tried to delete them the next day.
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don't think about it, just feel it...
we had been planning to go there ourselves today, so lucky our plans changed i guess.
gotta feel for the poor bastards who work there and have to deal with this.
in other news:
Teen paints giant penis on his parents' roof
A STUDENT has some scrubbing to do after his parents discovered he'd painted an 18m-long penis on their roof to get his home noticed on Google Earth.
Rory McInnes, 18, decided to make his family home stand out after watching a documentary about Google Earth.
Armed with a tin of white paint, he climbed on top of the $2 million home in Berkshire, south east England, and set to work.
His artwork remained unnoticed for 12 months until a helicopter pilot spotted it and swooped down low so his passengers could take photos.
Dad Andy thought it was a prank call when a British newspaper contacted him about the painting this week.
"It's an April Fool's joke, right? There's no way there's a 60ft phallus on top of my house,'' Mr McInnes told The Sun.
He confronted his four children, finding his answers when he reached Rory over the phone in Brazil.
Part-way through gap-year travels, Rory could not hold back his laughter as he confessed: "Oh, so you've found it then.''
The image has been compared to the Cerne Abbas Giant, a 55m-high naked figure carved into the hill at Dorset which is said to attract couples seeking to have children.
Mum Clare said: "We don't want any more children, so the idea of sleeping under a giant fertility symbol is rather worrying.''
Mr McInnes added: "We don't want to lie in bed at night and hear couples at it above us.
"When Rory gets home he will be given a scrubbing brush and white spirit and he can go and scrub it off.''
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Don't worry, he'll be back in a few weeks.
His knob to shaft ratio is terrible.
wow, amazing restraint on his behalf
curious-has the "OMG THAT'S RACIST!!" card been played yet?
It has in fact been over-played. It is possible that the cop is racist, but lacking any current evidence it tends to be obscuring the fact that the cop is certainly a power loving moron a little too often in media debates.
not bad!!!
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/fencesnake.asp
I've been wondering where Snappy got to!
Lol, what a cock-up! That shit only happens in movies.
Sorry, but this is NOT internet censorship, but laws passed to prevent the continued growth of internet piracy.
Two completely different things with two completely different outcomes for people.
Freedom of Speech is a fundamental human right, one of the basic pillars of modern democracy.
Downloading movies/music/games involves interfering with the flow of capital to producers of artworks.
If the latter stops, you can still go out and buy a movie. If the former stops, your movies aren't made!
Teething problems at Monarto Live At The Zoo music festival
Article from: The Advertiser
April 10, 2009 12:40pm
ADELAIDE'S first three-day music camping festival has got off to a less than impressive start, with reports of long delays, widespread disorganisation and angry fans.
In its first year, Live at the Zoo - set in Monarto Zoo near Murray Bridge - is struggling to hold the event together, experiencing major teething problems.
The gates were kept shut as the queue of cars gradually lengthened, with frustrated fans reporting that more than 300 cars were banked up outside the music festival at midday.
By 3pm the gates had been opened, but the queue was moving very slowly as security guards checked every vehicle for alcohol and drugs.
The event has already had to cancel numerous acts, with an email sent around to local acts saying the bad news was due to "costs massively exceeding original budget expectations".
There are reports of major dust issues within the festival grounds, and little or no shade for fans.
Also, revellers who paid $185 for a three-day pass have reported a complete lack of instruction on where and when people can camp.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25316394-5006301,00.html
Doh
Nice link John. Very good article, it really shows how much they have pulled the wools over the eyes of the world public. I've always swallowed it's glamourous image hook, line and sinker.
its a cunt of a place imo. though i had no idea the 'slavery' was bad as that!
pity the poor french 17 year old guy from a couple of years ago who had been living there with his working ex-pat parents - abducted on the street, taken out to the desert, gang raped by several men for hours and dumped back in the city... the kid identified his attackers, DNA evidence confirmed it, only to have the case thrown out by the cops and judge because there is no such thing as male rape, you must be gay.
needless to say its caused quite a diplomatic stir between them and the french gov...
I had heard it was pretty bad, but I had wondered how they acquired the workers. Seems so simple; there must be an incredibly large number of poor families who have no idea what has become of their sons or fathers.
+1
its a doomed city if you ask me. just a question of how long...
no rob, one better
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
Thanks, I stand corrected.
I am sure Erika was never a taxi driver. She can't be that bad a driver, surely?
plus all the extra farts
Oooh this is sweet!
The Pirate Bay trial invalid? (translation of Swedish article)
Posted on | April 23, 2009 | No Comments
Just a couple of hour ago, this breaking news article was published on the webpage of SR (Swedish National Radio). It unveils how the judge of the The Pirate Bay spectrial is actually an active member of the Swedish copyright lobby.
As no English media has picked up the story yet, I have made a rough translation from Swedish. As I am not entirely fluent in Swedish (I am Danish), there are a few words that still needs translation (marked in red paranthesis below). If anyone can help, email me at villum@autofunk.dk and I will adjust the translation accordingly. Also, any better formulation/translation of any part of the article will be appreciated.
âTRIAL MAY NEED TO BE DONE OVERâ
This Friday all four founders of The Pirate Bay were sentenced to one year in prison and paying approx. 30 million Swedish Kronor in compensation and damages. But now an examination by Swedish radio P3 Nyheter (P3 News) shows that the judge in the trial may not be impartial. And the trial may need to be made over.
âI think that the judge should have chosen not to take the case. It is definitely a _____ (âdelikatessjävâ, translation help needed),â says law attorney Leif Silbersky.
Through examination it turns out and there are relations between the judge in The Pirate Bay-trial and prosecution; meaning the film and music industry and their attorneys.
Swedish Association for Copyright (SFU)
Here the judge is a private member. Henrik Pontén, Peter Danowsky and Monique Wadsted that represent the copyright owners in The Pirate Bay trial are also members. The association writes on its homepage that they are âa meeting spot for qualified copyright discussionsâ.
Swedish Association for Business _______ (ârättskyddâ, translation help needed) (SFIR)
The association deals with questions of patent and _______ (âmönsterskyddâ, translation help needed), but has also worked in favor of stronger copyrights. Here the judge is a member of the board.
Stiftelsen.se
An extra job that the judge fills alongside his work as a council member in the âTingsrettenâ (Court of Property).
âIt may be necessary to for the trial to be done over again,â says Leif Silbersky. âBut in order for that to happen the attorneys must deal with this immediately.â
Criticism from various sides
We have talked to several experts such as professors in law practices, judges in Högsta Domstolen (Supreme Court) and lecturers of justice.
âI would not have taken this case, if I had been in this situation,â says Justitieombudsmannen (Ombudsman of Justice) Rune Lavin.
âIt is obvious that he never should have taken this count,â a professor in law practice, that chooses to remain anonymous.
Judges must not have any reason to be deemed partial
There are different types of ____ (âjävâ, translation help needed). The most obvious case is if a judge is related to one of the inflicted parties. This is not the case here. But the concept of _____ (âdelikatessjävâ, translation help needed) exists, and that means that you as a judge must not have any reason to be deemed partial.
âBut I do not think that I can be deemed partial because of these engagements,â says Tomas Norström, judge in The Pirate Bay trial.
How do you explain that several law experts disagree with you?
âYou will have to ask them that yourselv. Every time I am presented with a count, I access if I see myself as partial. That I have not in this case,â says Tomas Norström.
But it does not matter what the judges thinks himself. This thinks Erik Bylander, associate professor in law practice at the Gothenburg Business College.
âRegardless of the judgeâs viewpoint, it can seem highly questionable. In a high profile lawsuit such as this one, I am _____ (âförvånaâ, translation help needed) that the court has not been more careful,â he says.
Pretty sure being an animal lover is illegal too.
Of course they thought she was an animal lover. Everyone is assumed to be one until you see them beating an animal.
If he confronted them, they didn't believe her and later saw she continued to bash the dog, then he could have filmed it as proof.
I'm someone who thinks it's better to prevent a crime than allow it to happen and catch the offender. To me this just shows how piss poor relationships between neighbours have become in some parts of the world, where people will accept and allow bad things to happen before taking action.
We've told people to treat their pets better or we'll call the cops. It creates animosity, but also the animals are treated better.
Anyway, it's in the Sun. I wouldn't be surprised if they paid the girl money to beat the dog to get a headline...
You idiot.
Yes that was my first thought too, and/or she could have a psychological disorder.
I didn't watch the video, but if it went on for so long in that instance it's weird that her family hadn't noticed her being mean to any animals at all in the past.
:rofl:
I wish they hired Ace Ventura
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Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 3:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
And yet it's legal to chop off puppies tails :(
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 4:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
oh I hope it's not legal anymore.... doggies need waggily tails :inlove:
NessaPosts: 1,563
Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 4:35pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Gothic kittens with piercings sold on eBay.
December 19, 2008, 11:12 am
Three kittens have been removed from a US home after humane officers discovered they were being sold on eBay.
Humane officers said a Pennsylvania woman marketed "gothic kittens" with ear, neck and tail piercings.
Officers with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals removed three kittens and a cat.
Officer Carol Morrison said the society got a tip that the woman was selling the pierced kittens on the Internet.
"It's unbelievable anybody would do this to kittens," she said.
Charges are likely against the homeowner, whose name was not released.
Ms Morrison said the woman has a pet grooming business in the basement of her home.
A dog inside the home was also found with pierced ears.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5223996
December 19, 2008, 11:12 am
Three kittens have been removed from a US home after humane officers discovered they were being sold on eBay.
Humane officers said a Pennsylvania woman marketed "gothic kittens" with ear, neck and tail piercings.
Officers with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals removed three kittens and a cat.
Officer Carol Morrison said the society got a tip that the woman was selling the pierced kittens on the Internet.
"It's unbelievable anybody would do this to kittens," she said.
Charges are likely against the homeowner, whose name was not released.
Ms Morrison said the woman has a pet grooming business in the basement of her home.
A dog inside the home was also found with pierced ears.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5223996
Who Cares What Everyone Else Thinks!
snappytominto the jungle...
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Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 4:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
O.M.G
She deserves a slow, painful death. Death by piercing!
She deserves a slow, painful death. Death by piercing!
deathmazePosts: 2,153
Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 4:49pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
And yet it's legal to chop off puppies tails 
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
warped fairyPosts: 2,680
Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 4:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
And yet it's legal to chop off puppies tails
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
~the grass might be greener but it's just as hard to mow ~
deathmazePosts: 2,153
Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
oh I hope it's not legal anymore.... doggies need waggily tails 
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oliJust the
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Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 10:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm over animal abuse stories.
Australia. Sheep. Mulesing.
Include selling sheep to countries where they'll be slaughtered in rather disgusting ways if you want...
Australia. Sheep. Mulesing.
Include selling sheep to countries where they'll be slaughtered in rather disgusting ways if you want...
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Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 10:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
They pierce cows ears and they pierce kittens ears. What's the difference? You find kittens cute and adorable so you don't want them to get hurt. Besides subjective cuteness there is no real difference between these two animals.
Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 4:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
They pierce cows ears and they pierce kittens ears. What's the difference? You find kittens cute and adorable so you don't want them to get hurt. Besides subjective cuteness there is no real difference between these two animals.
I agree surely it cant fucking hurt them that much?
StrykeSuper Hyper-Mega
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Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 5:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
They pierce cows ears and they pierce kittens ears. What's the difference? You find kittens cute and adorable so you don't want them to get hurt. Besides subjective cuteness there is no real difference between these two animals.
I agree surely it cant fucking hurt them that much?
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 10:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
yep is illegal my rotty has his tail which is like a kangaroos tail stupid as rule why make it illegal specially if it can possibly help there health when they are older but gettin his dew claws taken of is legal
by Prof. Dr R. Fritsch , Leader of Clinic of Veterinary Surgeons
Quote
The dogs tail on the other hand, whether it be in kennels or around the home, is in constant danger of damage be being hit against hard objects like walls, fences, tables, chair legs, radiators and of being trapped in doors. these injuries usually result in sores at the tip of the tail, which do not heal well because there is poor blood circulation in this part of the tail.
By licking and chewing, the dog makes the condition worse and the skin and tissue will die. These conditions of necrosis of the tip of the tail is often seen in Great Danes and Dalmatians. German Shepherds are often seen in veterinary surgeries.
This can sometimes be treated with partial amputation but secondary problems can occur in the healing process because the very poor blood supply is not conductive to this. This actually makes it necessary to amputate the tail several times before the healing process is achieved.
By licking and chewing, the dog makes the condition worse and the skin and tissue will die. These conditions of necrosis of the tip of the tail is often seen in Great Danes and Dalmatians. German Shepherds are often seen in veterinary surgeries.
This can sometimes be treated with partial amputation but secondary problems can occur in the healing process because the very poor blood supply is not conductive to this. This actually makes it necessary to amputate the tail several times before the healing process is achieved.
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 11:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i thought it wasn't anymore? my sister's rotty still has her tail. killer weapon that thing is!
yep is illegal my rotty has his tail which is like a kangaroos tail stupid as rule why make it illegal specially if it can possibly help there health when they are older but gettin his dew claws taken of is legal
by Prof. Dr R. Fritsch , Leader of Clinic of Veterinary Surgeons
Quote
The dogs tail on the other hand, whether it be in kennels or around the home, is in constant danger of damage be being hit against hard objects like walls, fences, tables, chair legs, radiators and of being trapped in doors. these injuries usually result in sores at the tip of the tail, which do not heal well because there is poor blood circulation in this part of the tail.
By licking and chewing, the dog makes the condition worse and the skin and tissue will die. These conditions of necrosis of the tip of the tail is often seen in Great Danes and Dalmatians. German Shepherds are often seen in veterinary surgeries.
This can sometimes be treated with partial amputation but secondary problems can occur in the healing process because the very poor blood supply is not conductive to this. This actually makes it necessary to amputate the tail several times before the healing process is achieved.
By licking and chewing, the dog makes the condition worse and the skin and tissue will die. These conditions of necrosis of the tip of the tail is often seen in Great Danes and Dalmatians. German Shepherds are often seen in veterinary surgeries.
This can sometimes be treated with partial amputation but secondary problems can occur in the healing process because the very poor blood supply is not conductive to this. This actually makes it necessary to amputate the tail several times before the healing process is achieved.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 9:20amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
jew claws
:E
i don't agree with piercing cats.
Posted: c. 21 Dec 2008, 10:20amSubject: Re: In The News Today
jew claws
i don't agree with piercing cats.
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 11:49pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cracking read here on the Peter Liddy saga. (http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/the-liddy-files-shamed-and-defamed/1391049.aspx?storypage=0)
I have a new level of respect for Today Tonight after that. Fighting for justice in a sickening chain of events...
I have a new level of respect for Today Tonight after that. Fighting for justice in a sickening chain of events...
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 8:43amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I have a new level of respect for Today Tonight after that.
Good article but Jesus, I wouldnt go that far...
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:09amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
They pierce cows ears and they pierce kittens ears. What's the difference? You find kittens cute and adorable so you don't want them to get hurt. Besides subjective cuteness there is no real difference between these two animals.
That's right, I hate how they tag cows ears too! It would hurt more for a cow to have a hole punched through it's ear than it would for a kitten to have it's ear pierced with a proper piercing needle.
Erk
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:13amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's right, I hate how they tag cows ears too! It would hurt more for a cow to have a hole punched through it's ear than it would for a kitten to have it's ear pierced with a proper piercing needle.
It happens all so quickly though I dont think it would hurt that much. As long as it is done quickly, i.e. like getting a humans ear pierced, it cant be that bad- can it?
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:21amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
It happens all so quickly though I dont think it would hurt that much. As long as it is done quickly, i.e. like getting a humans ear pierced, it cant be that bad- can it?
Fuck oath.
Seriously toughen up you sooky cunts, they probably go through a tiny bit of pain for at most 24hrs! If thats the worst thing a cow/cat has to endure for its life then I think its going pretty well..
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:22amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah but piercing the kittens neck? that's a bit rough.
Erk
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:23amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Seriously toughen up you sooky cunts,
Hes charming that John :lol:
Erk
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:23amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah but piercing the kittens neck? that's a bit rough.
I was talking about the cow tagging not the kitten piercing before. I shouldve clarified that.
Cow tagging is necessary IMO for cattle markets. Emo cat piercing is not
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:27amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah but piercing the kittens neck? that's a bit rough.
Whatever, it'll heal.
Arent we all equals? Therefore whats good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak?
Oh god, thats a pandoras box right there.. imagine cats getting equal rights in the work place..
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:32amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 12:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Emo cat piercing is not
If they don't like it they can always do something about it.
Remember kitty, it's down the paw not across. Nine times!
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 12:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cracking read here on the Peter Liddy saga. (http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/the-liddy-files-shamed-and-defamed/1391049.aspx?storypage=0)
I have a new level of respect for Today Tonight after that. Fighting for justice in a sickening chain of events...
I have a new level of respect for Today Tonight after that. Fighting for justice in a sickening chain of events...
used to work with a dude who was one of the kids Liddy touched up. Such a nice guy but he was so messed up and his life was hell.
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 9:33pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Good article but Jesus, I wouldnt go that far...
How am I going too far? I'm not saying I respect it yet, just that my level of respect has gone up a smidge. :lol:
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 8:13amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: I stand corrected.
Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 2:35pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ninth body found after Santa's killing spree
December 27, 2008 06:34am
A NINTH body has been recovered from the charred rubble of a Christmas Eve massacre as sketchy details emerged about the gunman responsible for the deadly killing spree.
Los Angeles County Coroner's office confirmed a ninth body had been found in the wreckage of a home in the LA suburb of Covina, where a man dressed as Santa Claus opened fire on revelers late on Wednesday.
The gunman, Bruce Pardo, 45, burst into the party at his former in-laws' home and sprayed guests with bullets before setting fire to the house and later taking his own life.
Pardo had recently gone through a bitter divorce with his wife - who was reported to be among the victims - but there were no further clues as to what may have triggered the murderous rampage.
The unemployed aerospace engineer had no criminal record and nothing in his personal history to suggest a predisposition to violence, police said.
Friends from a church Pardo regularly attended expressed disbelief.
"He was just the nicest guy," said Jan Detanna, who worked with Pardo as an usher at the Holy Redeemer Catholic Church.
"He always had a smile. It's a shock. A shock for anybody who knew him at the church," Ms Detanna told the Whittier Daily News.
Grief-stricken friends of the victims on Thursday described Pardo as a "coward".
"To know that one individual, one coward, could bring so much devastation and heartache to a family," said family friend Rosa Ordaz.
Police said Pardo knocked on the door of his ex-wife's parents' home just before midnight, where 25 people were gathered to celebrate Christmas Eve.
An eight-year-old girl who answered the door was shot in the face before Pardo stormed into the home and began gunning down revelers with bullets fired from a semi-automatic handgun.
After party-goers fled, Pardo torched the house with a bizarre home-made incendiary device before making his getaway.
Pardo's body was found with self-inflicted gunshot wounds on Thursday, a few hours after the rampage, police said.
He had been killed by a single shot to the head at his brother's home in Sylmar, approximately 40km away.
Late on Thursday, a rented car parked outside the property was found to contain 300 rounds of ammunition and a pipe bomb.
The car burst into flames as bomb disposal experts moved in, reports said.
Police had received a series of emergency calls alerting them to the initial incident, and when they arrived the house was engulfed in flames and guests were running out.
Neighbours reported hearing a loud explosion before the blaze erupted.
Two girls, including the girl who answered the door, were hospitalised with gunshot wounds and a 13-year-old girl was treated for injuries that were not life-threatening.
Authorities have yet to publicly identify those killed by Pardo, but local media reported the victim's ex-wife and in-laws were among the dead.
It was not clear if three people at the party who were missing on Thursday had been accounted for.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24846529-5005962,00.html
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Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 10:45pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
This is 1 min from my house & i didn't know about it ...One less bus to coagulate the roads 
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A SPECTACULAR fire caused by a suspected engine fault has destroyed a bus at Seaview Downs.
Two passengers and the driver escaped uninjured after the bus ignited about 3.15pm at Davenport Terrace.
Thick black smoke spread across surrounding suburbs before 20 firefighters brought the blaze under control.
The fire is thought to have started after an engine fault ignited a tyre.
The $600,000 bus was completely destroyed by the fire which started in he centre of the bus.
At the height of the fire, smoke could be seen from CBD buildings.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24853120-5006301,00.html
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A SPECTACULAR fire caused by a suspected engine fault has destroyed a bus at Seaview Downs.
Two passengers and the driver escaped uninjured after the bus ignited about 3.15pm at Davenport Terrace.
Thick black smoke spread across surrounding suburbs before 20 firefighters brought the blaze under control.
The fire is thought to have started after an engine fault ignited a tyre.
The $600,000 bus was completely destroyed by the fire which started in he centre of the bus.
At the height of the fire, smoke could be seen from CBD buildings.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24853120-5006301,00.html
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 10:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wow. Lucky all those surrounding trees didn't catch by the sound of it.
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 10:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
O look its a bendy bus 
the same stupid fucking bendy bus that never has anyone in it*see quote & nearly cleans me up every time I drive around the corner out my driveway
the same stupid fucking bendy bus that never has anyone in it*see quote & nearly cleans me up every time I drive around the corner out my driveway Two passengers and the driver escaped uninjured
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Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 9:02amSubject: Re: In The News Today
O look its a bendy bus
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Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 8:05pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
We saw the smoke from the 8th floor and we thought the Hyatt was on fire.
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 11:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
Posted: 1 Jan 2009, 9:55amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bangkok nightclub fire kills 59, injures 130
By DENIS D. GRAY – 1 hour ago
BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) — A fire swept through a high-class nightclub jammed with several hundred New Year's revelers early Thursday, killing at least 59 people and injuring about 130, officials said. A number of foreigners were among the casualties from the blaze that erupted shortly after midnight at the Santika Club in Bangkok's entertainment district.
Victims died from burns, smoke inhalation and injuries during the stampede to escape from the club, which had only one door for the public, police Maj. Gen. Chokchai Deeprasertwit said. Firefighters said a door at the rear was known only to the staff.
Video footage of the disaster showed bloodied, bruised and burned victims being dragged out of the burning club or managing to run through the door or shattered windows. The video — provided to AP Television News by rescue workers — showed flames racing through the entire building even as the rescue operation was going on.
Police Gen. Jongrak Jutanont put the death toll at 59, which included an undetermined number of foreigners. He said that among the injured were nationals of Australia, Nepal, Japan and the Netherlands.
Most of the victims were confirmed dead at the club but at least one person died at a hospital. Workers counting bodies told The Associated Press that about 130 others were injured. Rescue said they believed other bodies were still inside the blaze-gutted building, which has two stories and a basement.
Chokchai said that the fire may have been caused by firecrackers brought into the Santika Club by guests or sparks flying from a New Year's countdown display on the nightclub stage.
The club was packed with about 1,000 celebrants, according to police officers who declined to be named because they were not authorized to speak to the press.
Most of the bodies were found in the basement of the club, which attracts a well-heeled crowd of Thais and foreigners, rescuers said. The corpses, placed in white body bags, were laid out in rows in the parking lot in front of the club.
The emergency workers said the rescue operation was delayed because of heavy New Year's traffic in the Ekamai entertainment district and the large number of cars parked at the club.
Firefighter Watcharapong Sri-saard said that in addition to a lack of exits, a number of staircases inside the club as well as bars across the second-floor windows made escape difficult.
An AP reporters who peered inside the still burning building said everything in sight had been burned.
One local Web site about the entertainment scene in Bangkok described the club as attracting "an affluent Thai student crowd, with Euro models and Westerners also popping in" with a "whisky-sipping crowd all focused on a large stage."
Another site says that the high ceiling and a cross in the main room makes one feel "like walking into a church."
By DENIS D. GRAY – 1 hour ago
BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) — A fire swept through a high-class nightclub jammed with several hundred New Year's revelers early Thursday, killing at least 59 people and injuring about 130, officials said. A number of foreigners were among the casualties from the blaze that erupted shortly after midnight at the Santika Club in Bangkok's entertainment district.
Victims died from burns, smoke inhalation and injuries during the stampede to escape from the club, which had only one door for the public, police Maj. Gen. Chokchai Deeprasertwit said. Firefighters said a door at the rear was known only to the staff.
Video footage of the disaster showed bloodied, bruised and burned victims being dragged out of the burning club or managing to run through the door or shattered windows. The video — provided to AP Television News by rescue workers — showed flames racing through the entire building even as the rescue operation was going on.
Police Gen. Jongrak Jutanont put the death toll at 59, which included an undetermined number of foreigners. He said that among the injured were nationals of Australia, Nepal, Japan and the Netherlands.
Most of the victims were confirmed dead at the club but at least one person died at a hospital. Workers counting bodies told The Associated Press that about 130 others were injured. Rescue said they believed other bodies were still inside the blaze-gutted building, which has two stories and a basement.
Chokchai said that the fire may have been caused by firecrackers brought into the Santika Club by guests or sparks flying from a New Year's countdown display on the nightclub stage.
The club was packed with about 1,000 celebrants, according to police officers who declined to be named because they were not authorized to speak to the press.
Most of the bodies were found in the basement of the club, which attracts a well-heeled crowd of Thais and foreigners, rescuers said. The corpses, placed in white body bags, were laid out in rows in the parking lot in front of the club.
The emergency workers said the rescue operation was delayed because of heavy New Year's traffic in the Ekamai entertainment district and the large number of cars parked at the club.
Firefighter Watcharapong Sri-saard said that in addition to a lack of exits, a number of staircases inside the club as well as bars across the second-floor windows made escape difficult.
An AP reporters who peered inside the still burning building said everything in sight had been burned.
One local Web site about the entertainment scene in Bangkok described the club as attracting "an affluent Thai student crowd, with Euro models and Westerners also popping in" with a "whisky-sipping crowd all focused on a large stage."
Another site says that the high ceiling and a cross in the main room makes one feel "like walking into a church."
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Posted: 1 Jan 2009, 9:56amSubject: Re: In The News Today
hope glock wasnt at this hes in bangkok isnt he
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Posted: 1 Jan 2009, 10:23amSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah he is i got about 6 other mates over there atm too. might give em a buzz.
Posted: 1 Jan 2009, 11:41amSubject: Re: In The News Today
POLICE have bowed to public pressure and withdrawn a red light camera fine issued to a pensioner who gave way to an ambulance.
Ken MacDonald, 66, from Seaton, was fined $327 and lost three demerit points when he drove through a red light at the Richmond and South Rd intersection, Mile End South, to make way for the ambulance on November 24.
AdelaideNow was inundated with hundreds of comments from readers who said the fine should be waived.
Today, police released a statement saying: "Following consideration of all relevant matters, including confirmation from the South Australian Ambulance Service that an ambulance was responding to an emergency at about the time the red light camera was activated, the notice has been withdrawn."
Police said Mr MacDonald had been advised of the decision.
Acting Police Minister Michael Atkinson requested police review the fine last week.
Police had earlier rejected Mr MacDonald's written appeal, saying he had no legal exemption to disobey a red light by moving out of the way of an ambulance.
Mr MacDonald's car was photographed travelling away from the city through a red-light at the Richmond and South Rd intersection, Mile End South, on November 24.
He insisted he had moved forward into the intersection to give way to an ambulance, which was behind him with lights and sirens activated.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24859384-2682,00.html
Ken MacDonald, 66, from Seaton, was fined $327 and lost three demerit points when he drove through a red light at the Richmond and South Rd intersection, Mile End South, to make way for the ambulance on November 24.
AdelaideNow was inundated with hundreds of comments from readers who said the fine should be waived.
Today, police released a statement saying: "Following consideration of all relevant matters, including confirmation from the South Australian Ambulance Service that an ambulance was responding to an emergency at about the time the red light camera was activated, the notice has been withdrawn."
Police said Mr MacDonald had been advised of the decision.
Acting Police Minister Michael Atkinson requested police review the fine last week.
Police had earlier rejected Mr MacDonald's written appeal, saying he had no legal exemption to disobey a red light by moving out of the way of an ambulance.
Mr MacDonald's car was photographed travelling away from the city through a red-light at the Richmond and South Rd intersection, Mile End South, on November 24.
He insisted he had moved forward into the intersection to give way to an ambulance, which was behind him with lights and sirens activated.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24859384-2682,00.html
Posted: 1 Jan 2009, 5:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
hope glock wasnt at this hes in bangkok isnt he
I'm OK, cheers man.
I've been there a couple of times before, it was a decent joint, it seems the band had some fireworks cranking on stage that lit up the stage curtain. Bloody stupid.
We actually entertained the thought of going there last night, we could get free tickets or something.
Lucky eh?
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 2:43amSubject: Re: In The News Today
New research has found playful teasing develops social skills
By Angela Saurine
The Daily Telegraph
January 07, 2009 01:57am
IF your child is being teased in the playground - don't worry, it's good for building character.
New research has found playful teasing, and being called names such as "ranga", could be good for young people because it helps them bond and develop social skills.
It may even make "victims" more likely to take on leadership roles in the long term. Dr Erin Heerey, of the University of Bangor in North Wales, studied a group of university students in California and found that their "playful humiliations" led to them becoming better friends, The Daily Telegraph reports.
Researchers visited the group a gain a couple of years later and found that students who had been the butt of jokes were in leadership positions and now playing the same role in passing on these social norms.
Dr Heerey said playground teasing was a normal part of school life and should not be stopped by politically correct teachers. She said: "Teasing helps children to discover how to use their bodies, voices and faces to communicate nuances of meaning."
The findings are echoed by child psychologist Kimberley O'Brien, from Sydney's Quirky Kids Clinic, who said teasing helped kids learn not to take themselves too seriously.
"They learn how to respond to playful criticism ... that can be useful in later life," she said, adding that teased kids could end up in leadership roles - and became strong enough to come back with witty comments.
National Centre Against Bullying manager Sandra Craig said teasing was part of the everyday currency of linguistic exchanges.
But she said there was a boundary (between teasing and bullying) and part of growing up was discovering it.
Lewis Maher, 14, said he often teased a friend who had red hair by calling him "ranga", while Mark Matula, 14, sometimes gets teased for looking "like a monkey". Both said it was all in fun, with no hurtful intent.
By Angela Saurine
The Daily Telegraph
January 07, 2009 01:57am
IF your child is being teased in the playground - don't worry, it's good for building character.
New research has found playful teasing, and being called names such as "ranga", could be good for young people because it helps them bond and develop social skills.
It may even make "victims" more likely to take on leadership roles in the long term. Dr Erin Heerey, of the University of Bangor in North Wales, studied a group of university students in California and found that their "playful humiliations" led to them becoming better friends, The Daily Telegraph reports.
Researchers visited the group a gain a couple of years later and found that students who had been the butt of jokes were in leadership positions and now playing the same role in passing on these social norms.
Dr Heerey said playground teasing was a normal part of school life and should not be stopped by politically correct teachers. She said: "Teasing helps children to discover how to use their bodies, voices and faces to communicate nuances of meaning."
The findings are echoed by child psychologist Kimberley O'Brien, from Sydney's Quirky Kids Clinic, who said teasing helped kids learn not to take themselves too seriously.
"They learn how to respond to playful criticism ... that can be useful in later life," she said, adding that teased kids could end up in leadership roles - and became strong enough to come back with witty comments.
National Centre Against Bullying manager Sandra Craig said teasing was part of the everyday currency of linguistic exchanges.
But she said there was a boundary (between teasing and bullying) and part of growing up was discovering it.
Lewis Maher, 14, said he often teased a friend who had red hair by calling him "ranga", while Mark Matula, 14, sometimes gets teased for looking "like a monkey". Both said it was all in fun, with no hurtful intent.
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 4:59amSubject: Re: In The News Today
i dunno mate, didn't help you much
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 7:30amSubject: Re: In The News Today
.....while Andrew Symonds, 33, sometimes gets teased for looking "like a monkey".
Fixed.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 8:52amSubject: Re: In The News Today
i dunno mate, didn't help you much
Haha, prick. I was the captain of an indoor cricket team once..
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 10:50amSubject: Re: In The News Today
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 12:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:another one
Masturbating driver fined for 'bizarre' pleasure cruise
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/07/2460860.htm
A Darwin man has been fined $2,000 for filming himself masturbating while speeding along the Stuart Highway.
The man is already in jail until August after pleading guilty to carrying cannabis in the car boot and two plants on the back seat.
The 39-year-old pleaded guilty in the Darwin Magistrates Court to dangerous driving.
He was pulled over by police on the Stuart Highway in July speeding at 147 kilometres per hour, south of Daly Waters.
He admitted to officers he filmed himself masturbating while driving from Adelaide to Darwin.
He also pleaded guilty to driving unlicensed, carrying two cannabis smoking pipes, administering the drug and carrying a loaded rifle.
Magistrate Sue Oliver says the driving was bizarre to say the least and conduct she expects of someone much younger.
Masturbating driver fined for 'bizarre' pleasure cruise
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/07/2460860.htm
A Darwin man has been fined $2,000 for filming himself masturbating while speeding along the Stuart Highway.
The man is already in jail until August after pleading guilty to carrying cannabis in the car boot and two plants on the back seat.
The 39-year-old pleaded guilty in the Darwin Magistrates Court to dangerous driving.
He was pulled over by police on the Stuart Highway in July speeding at 147 kilometres per hour, south of Daly Waters.
He admitted to officers he filmed himself masturbating while driving from Adelaide to Darwin.
He also pleaded guilty to driving unlicensed, carrying two cannabis smoking pipes, administering the drug and carrying a loaded rifle.
Magistrate Sue Oliver says the driving was bizarre to say the least and conduct she expects of someone much younger.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 12:53pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Marijuana's a helluva drug!
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 1:00pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Magistrate Sue Oliver says the driving was bizarre to say the least and conduct she expects of someone much younger.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 2:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol that reminds me of Eddie Griffen couple years ago. Used to play for the Timberwolves in the NBA, was having a mast while watching some porn......but was also driving his SUV and did so right up the back of a parked car
fkn idiot
fkn idiot
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 2:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol that reminds me of Eddie Griffen couple years ago. Used to play for the Timberwolves in the NBA, was having a mast while watching some porn......but was also driving his SUV and did so right up the back of a parked car
fkn idiot
Fuck me... surely any NBA player can at least pay some hoochie to suck his dick while driving.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 3:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Man smashes into Cairns adult shop for sex with dolls
By Roger Dickson
* Man breaks into adult shop, steals dolls
* Has sex with dolls before dumping them
* Sex industry rising above downturn
A MAN has smashed his way into an adult shop and had sex with blow-up dolls before abandoning the sex toys in a nearby lane.
Business owners in Cairns believe the same culprit is responsible for break-ins and till thefts at the Sapphire Bar on Lake St and three break-ins at the Laneway Adult Shop off Spence St in recent days.
His method of entry is to smash through walls and squeeze through tight holes, The Cairns Post reports.
The owner of the adult shop, who wished to be named only as Vogue, said that in a first unreported break-in, the man had stolen five dolls and had sex with one of them.
“He has been taking the dolls out the back and blowing them up and using the dolls and leaving them in the alley,” he said.
“It is totally bizarre. It is a real concern that someone like that is out on the street.”
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Vogue said a sex toy also went missing in the second break-in and that the offender had a liking for the doll model named "Jungle Jane", which had been taken on both occasions.
He said he was dumbfounded that the burglar also had the "weird" habit of cleaning up the mess he had made after entering the building.
The burglar again smashed through a wall in the roof area of the shop on either Monday night or early yesterday morning but was scared off by a newly installed alarm system.
Vogue and David Sharman, the owner of the Sapphire Bar on Lake St that has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop, both believe they have been targeted by the same thief.
Both men said fleeting video images showed the burglar as being a tall, skinny Caucasian. He has left DNA evidence at the crime scene.
Mr Sharman said in one break-in at his business: "The burglar smashed a hole near the top of the roof line. He then clambered 15m down a sheer wall.
"He (only) took the surveillance recorders - we found them in the bin."
Read more on this story at The Cairns Post
"His method of entry is to smash through walls and squeeze through tight holes, The Cairns Post reports." Thats awesome reporting
By Roger Dickson
* Man breaks into adult shop, steals dolls
* Has sex with dolls before dumping them
* Sex industry rising above downturn
A MAN has smashed his way into an adult shop and had sex with blow-up dolls before abandoning the sex toys in a nearby lane.
Business owners in Cairns believe the same culprit is responsible for break-ins and till thefts at the Sapphire Bar on Lake St and three break-ins at the Laneway Adult Shop off Spence St in recent days.
His method of entry is to smash through walls and squeeze through tight holes, The Cairns Post reports.
The owner of the adult shop, who wished to be named only as Vogue, said that in a first unreported break-in, the man had stolen five dolls and had sex with one of them.
“He has been taking the dolls out the back and blowing them up and using the dolls and leaving them in the alley,” he said.
“It is totally bizarre. It is a real concern that someone like that is out on the street.”
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Vogue said a sex toy also went missing in the second break-in and that the offender had a liking for the doll model named "Jungle Jane", which had been taken on both occasions.
He said he was dumbfounded that the burglar also had the "weird" habit of cleaning up the mess he had made after entering the building.
The burglar again smashed through a wall in the roof area of the shop on either Monday night or early yesterday morning but was scared off by a newly installed alarm system.
Vogue and David Sharman, the owner of the Sapphire Bar on Lake St that has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop, both believe they have been targeted by the same thief.
Both men said fleeting video images showed the burglar as being a tall, skinny Caucasian. He has left DNA evidence at the crime scene.
Mr Sharman said in one break-in at his business: "The burglar smashed a hole near the top of the roof line. He then clambered 15m down a sheer wall.
"He (only) took the surveillance recorders - we found them in the bin."
Read more on this story at The Cairns Post
"His method of entry is to smash through walls and squeeze through tight holes, The Cairns Post reports." Thats awesome reportingFunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 7 Jan 2009, 4:27pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
“He has been taking the dolls out the back and blowing them up and using the dolls and leaving them in the alley,” he said.
“It is totally bizarre. It is a real concern that someone like that is out on the street.”
I think it'd be more concerning if he was smashing into houses and stealing people then blowing them up and having sex with them...
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 12:29amSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol that reminds me of Eddie Griffen couple years ago. Used to play for the Timberwolves in the NBA, was having a mast while watching some porn......but was also driving his SUV and did so right up the back of a parked car
fkn idiot
Woah, what's even more bizarre about that is the fact he DIED in a car accident!
Lost a bet (not surprisingly) with a freight train...
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 5:49amSubject: Re: In The News Today
His method of entry is to smash through walls and squeeze through tight holes, The Cairns Post reports.
Tight, real skin feel vibrating holes.
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 9:20amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Tight, real skin feel vibrating holes.
:lol: :lol:
Children are reported to make up a third of victims who have been killed in Gaza.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/08/2461367.htm?section=world
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 11:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Children are reported to make up a third of victims who have been killed in Gaza.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/08/2461367.htm?section=world
helped no end by Hamas well known technique of deliberately keeping themselves amoungst and launching their actions from within civilian populations, sadly.
i read something the other day where a muslim women screamed "may allah exterminate all hamas" or something similar, after finding her dead daughter in hospital. made a change from the usual hordes rabidly screaming "death to all teh joos"
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Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 12:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It really is a cunt of a situation over there. Fkn extremists.
You can understand that Israel have to be hard as fuck on things like this given their location. Aren't exactly bordered with friendly nations. Just sad to see so many innocents get caught up in it.
You can understand that Israel have to be hard as fuck on things like this given their location. Aren't exactly bordered with friendly nations. Just sad to see so many innocents get caught up in it.
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Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 1:33pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
It really is a cunt of a situation over there. Fkn extremists.
You can understand that Israel have to be hard as fuck on things like this given their location. Aren't exactly bordered with friendly nations. Just sad to see so many innocents get caught up in it.
for sure its fucked up. both sides have blood on their hands.
i saw a couple of pictures in the ABC coverage/gallery - one of a heap of muslims praying in gaza, the other of a jewish soldier praying next to a tank before the next assault.
summed up the situation perfectly imo.
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Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 7:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
This will only really make sense to people that have seen Bigger, Faster, Stronger but yeah sucks none the less
Pro wrestler 'Mad Dog' Bell, dies at 37
7:53a.m. 21st December 2008
Mike "Mad Dog" Bell, a former professional wrestler whose struggle with substance abuse was featured in the documentary, Bigger, Stronger, Faster, has died. He was 37.
Bell was found on Sunday at a Costa Mesa live-in rehabilitation facility, his family said.
An autopsy was conducted but investigators couldn't immediately determine the cause of death, said Dan Akin, a supervising deputy at the Orange County coroner's division. The coroner is awaiting the results of toxicology tests, he said.
Chris Bell, whose 2008 documentary examines the steroid use of his two brothers, said Mike Bell had long battled with his addictions to prescription painkillers and alcohol.
"He was always wrestling, he was a personal trainer, he was always pushing his body to the max," Chris Bell told the Orange County Register.
"You can't really blame wrestling, but it's kind of the lifestyle," he said. "You have a couple of painkillers to get to the next match, have a couple drinks night to night and it gets out of hand."
Bell wrestled on World Wrestling Entertainment's Monday Night Raw as a "jobber", a fighter who takes falls to promote others.
"Although Mr Bell was never under a WWE contract, WWE extends its deepest condolences to the Bell family," the organisation said.
http://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2008/dec/21/aap-pro-wrestler-mad-dog-bell-dies-at-37/
Pro wrestler 'Mad Dog' Bell, dies at 37
7:53a.m. 21st December 2008
Mike "Mad Dog" Bell, a former professional wrestler whose struggle with substance abuse was featured in the documentary, Bigger, Stronger, Faster, has died. He was 37.
Bell was found on Sunday at a Costa Mesa live-in rehabilitation facility, his family said.
An autopsy was conducted but investigators couldn't immediately determine the cause of death, said Dan Akin, a supervising deputy at the Orange County coroner's division. The coroner is awaiting the results of toxicology tests, he said.
Chris Bell, whose 2008 documentary examines the steroid use of his two brothers, said Mike Bell had long battled with his addictions to prescription painkillers and alcohol.
"He was always wrestling, he was a personal trainer, he was always pushing his body to the max," Chris Bell told the Orange County Register.
"You can't really blame wrestling, but it's kind of the lifestyle," he said. "You have a couple of painkillers to get to the next match, have a couple drinks night to night and it gets out of hand."
Bell wrestled on World Wrestling Entertainment's Monday Night Raw as a "jobber", a fighter who takes falls to promote others.
"Although Mr Bell was never under a WWE contract, WWE extends its deepest condolences to the Bell family," the organisation said.
http://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2008/dec/21/aap-pro-wrestler-mad-dog-bell-dies-at-37/
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 8:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Magistrate's speech to a 19 year old boy racer:
'You will find big, ugly, hairy, strong men who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy. Scary, isn't it? But that's what will happen.'
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24877317-5006009,00.html
'You will find big, ugly, hairy, strong men who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy. Scary, isn't it? But that's what will happen.'
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24877317-5006009,00.html
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 8:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Magistrate's speech to a 19 year old boy racer:
'You will find big, ugly, hairy, strong men who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy. Scary, isn't it? But that's what will happen.'
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24877317-5006009,00.html
That is awesome... Pity the kid seems like a complete twat and will no doubt not last till 2013 without driving.
Get off my lawn.
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 9:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Now the U.S. porn industry seeks $5billion bailout
After the banks and the cars, now the U.S. porn industry has gone cap in hand to Washington seeking a multi-billion dollar bailout.
American commentators did not know whether to laugh or cry yesterday at the news that the economic downturn 'has made America's appetite for sex go limp'.
The statement came from Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt and 'Girls Gone Wild' creator Joe Francis yesterday.
In a statement, Larry Flynt said that the economic downturn has been mirrored by a sexual downturn. 'Americans can do without cars and such but they cannot do without sex,' he said, adding that this was very 'unhealthy'.
Entertainment website TMZ.com reported that adult movie DVD sales have plummeted 22 per cent in one year.
And with all the free competition available, it appears the porn industry is not as recession proof as first thought.
TMZ said Joe Francis, hounded by legal troubles, plans to go to Congress to ask for his own stimulus package.
'Francis sees his industry like the big three automakers, only BIGGER,' the website claimed. 'Sounds like someone has a bone to pick.'
American commentators reacted in disbelief.
'How many 'Xs' in Bailout?' wondered the Los Angeles Times. The Oregon Commentator was slightly more direct, saying: 'This is just god-damn ridiculous.'
Others wondered exactly how Mr Flynt planned to 'rejuvenate' Americans' sex lives, while MSNBC asked exactly where the money would go - silicone implants?
'Bailouts Gone Wild!' wrote the New York Times, asking: 'Is this for real?'
Mr Flynt and Mr Francis are standing by their request however - and the Government's response remains to be seen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1109063/Now-U-S-porn-industry-seeks-5billion-bailout.html
After the banks and the cars, now the U.S. porn industry has gone cap in hand to Washington seeking a multi-billion dollar bailout.
American commentators did not know whether to laugh or cry yesterday at the news that the economic downturn 'has made America's appetite for sex go limp'.
The statement came from Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt and 'Girls Gone Wild' creator Joe Francis yesterday.
In a statement, Larry Flynt said that the economic downturn has been mirrored by a sexual downturn. 'Americans can do without cars and such but they cannot do without sex,' he said, adding that this was very 'unhealthy'.
Entertainment website TMZ.com reported that adult movie DVD sales have plummeted 22 per cent in one year.
And with all the free competition available, it appears the porn industry is not as recession proof as first thought.
TMZ said Joe Francis, hounded by legal troubles, plans to go to Congress to ask for his own stimulus package.
'Francis sees his industry like the big three automakers, only BIGGER,' the website claimed. 'Sounds like someone has a bone to pick.'
American commentators reacted in disbelief.
'How many 'Xs' in Bailout?' wondered the Los Angeles Times. The Oregon Commentator was slightly more direct, saying: 'This is just god-damn ridiculous.'
Others wondered exactly how Mr Flynt planned to 'rejuvenate' Americans' sex lives, while MSNBC asked exactly where the money would go - silicone implants?
'Bailouts Gone Wild!' wrote the New York Times, asking: 'Is this for real?'
Mr Flynt and Mr Francis are standing by their request however - and the Government's response remains to be seen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1109063/Now-U-S-porn-industry-seeks-5billion-bailout.html
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timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 9:53pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i'll chip in a coupla bucks.
Posted: 8 Jan 2009, 9:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I feel really guilty now.
Have more porn than music & movies combined on my computer and have never paid a cent for any of it.
Have more porn than music & movies combined on my computer and have never paid a cent for any of it.
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Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 9:49amSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol, stimulus package
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Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 11:34amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Magistrate's speech to a 19 year old boy racer:
'You will find big, ugly, hairy, strong men who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy. Scary, isn't it? But that's what will happen.'
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24877317-5006009,00.html
Quote from: Magistrate Brian Maloney
You will do 150 hours of community service. You will see the Probation and Parole Service and do the traffic offender's program. If you don't do what they say, you will effectively be telling me that you want to go and shower with the gorillas in the mist down at Long Bay jail.
Haha this judge is awesome. Kid seems like an absolute tosser though. If I were Mr Maloney and I'd seen that little shit go outside and pose for a photo like that, I'd have gone ape shit on his face with my gavel.
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QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 12:18pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I feel really guilty now.
Have more porn than music & movies combined on my computer and have never paid a cent for any of it.
u can pay for it? Shit I thought it was produced as an art
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 1:21pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: It was an artform until I saw that crap movie recently with that not-so-funny-stoner dude - it ruined it for me.
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 1:54pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Zak & Miri Make a Porno?
That was hilarious!
Further proof that you are without a sense of humour.
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 2:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ok, admittedly there was a laugh and a half with the high school reunion scene i.e. 'I love your pussy'.
But as the movie got to the predictable 'making love' instead of outright-sex scene, then 'cue-soppy-boy-meets-girl-they-fuck-up-and-lose-each-other-coupled-with-more-cliche-music' crapola proceeded... I lost interest.
It could of been soooo much funnier!
But as the movie got to the predictable 'making love' instead of outright-sex scene, then 'cue-soppy-boy-meets-girl-they-fuck-up-and-lose-each-other-coupled-with-more-cliche-music' crapola proceeded... I lost interest.
It could of been soooo much funnier!
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 3:40pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ok, admittedly there was a laugh and a half with the high school reunion scene i.e. 'I love your pussy'.
But as the movie got to the predictable 'making love' instead of outright-sex scene, then 'cue-soppy-boy-meets-girl-they-fuck-up-and-lose-each-other-coupled-with-more-cliche-music' crapola proceeded... I lost interest.
It could of been soooo much funnier!
Ending sucked, but reunion scenes were awesome.
Brandon St Randy fucking killed me.
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 3:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Further proof that you are without a sense of humour.
actually you could be onto something there. i had her rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter the other night and i'm not even funny.
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Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 9 Jan 2009, 3:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
actually you could be onto something there. i had her rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter the other night and i'm not even funny.
Case in point, really. You certainly aren't funny.
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 11:39amSubject: Re: In The News Today
It really is a cunt of a situation over there. Fkn extremists.
You can understand that Israel have to be hard as fuck on things like this given their location. Aren't exactly bordered with friendly nations. Just sad to see so many innocents get caught up in it.
Fuck that, they should stop lying, GTFO of their land, Simple.
Fuckers have been playing everyone for fools for YEARs, going to camp david sucking on the yanks dicks, promising to support a peaceful resolution process and to give back illegally/unlawfully obtained land whilst continuing to build NEW 'settlements" on said land...
Then they cry foul when the rightful owners of the land throw a few fucking rocks (rocks, rockets same thing >.>) at their tanks and ream them with overpowered blanket airstrikes on civilian targets.
BTW Hamas is a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POLITICAL PARTY, not a bunch of terrorists/extreemists... At worst their militant wing = freedom fighters IMO.
Solution is simple, Israel gives back the land they fucking STOLE and acknowledges the sovereignty of arab nations beyond the borders drawn up in 1948/49 instead of playing Shylock.
99 predicaments...
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 11:50amSubject: Re: In The News Today
BTW Hamas is a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POLITICAL PARTY, not a bunch of terrorists/extreemists... At worst their militant wing = freedom fighters IMO.
LOL
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 12:18pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fuck that, they should stop lying, GTFO of their land, Simple.
Fuckers have been playing everyone for fools for YEARs, going to camp david sucking on the yanks dicks, promising to support a peaceful resolution process and to give back illegally/unlawfully obtained land whilst continuing to build NEW 'settlements" on said land...
Then they cry foul when the rightful owners of the land throw a few fucking rocks (rocks, rockets same thing >.>) at their tanks and ream them with overpowered blanket airstrikes on civilian targets.
BTW Hamas is a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POLITICAL PARTY, not a bunch of terrorists/extreemists... At worst their militant wing = freedom fighters IMO.
Solution is simple, Israel gives back the land they fucking STOLE and acknowledges the sovereignty of arab nations beyond the borders drawn up in 1948/49 instead of playing Shylock.
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
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Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 12:39pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
i really only understand about 5% of that post but fuck it's funny
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Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 1:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
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bleehqPosts: 78
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 3:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Scathing.
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 3:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
You know sarcasm is considered to be the lowest form of wit, Tobias.
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YakPosts: 1,772
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 1:44amSubject: Re: In The News Today
"You'd be surprised how quickly you forget what's important when you've suddenly got everything you'd never thought you'd have" - Slash
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 3:27amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:07pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
fucking lol
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:22pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Ending sucked, but reunion scenes were awesome.
Brandon St Randy fucking killed me.
Brandon St Randy fucking killed me.
Agreed.
actually you could be onto something there. i had her rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter the other night and i'm not even funny.
Come on now, you can't take ALL the credit for Laser Cat! LOL I am still tempted to add that photo as my avatar!!!
Solidly structured and formatted argument, adept use of objective language with a deep lexicon to add richness to the prose, historical facts weaved in to insightful commentary so as to strengthen bold rhetoric with the weight of truth, an exhibited knowledge of the intricacies of one of the most difficult political issues of any age, altogether a weighty tome that proves the facile futility of the ad hominem under the weight of incendiary and powerful polemecism; I can't see how anybody could possibly find room for recourse to such a brilliant example of contemporary modes of debate.
You are a dream boat Toblerone. *swoons*
EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:43pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
He sure is harsh, yet brilliant.
Erk
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:43pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
He sure is harsh, yet brilliant.
:lol:
:lol:
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 1:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not to mention dreamy! :lol:
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 6:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Prince Harry has been called before his Army superiors for a “bollocking” after referring to a Pakistani platoon comrade as a “Paki”.
Bloody all too PR over here. Can't see how Paki is different to Aussie, Brit, etc, etc... I bet if he called an Aussie bloke a convict, there wouldn't be half the coverage either. Also, the other remark he makes about a bloke being a raghead is surely worse right?
at his pretend conversation with the Queen though....
Prince Harry in hot water over ‘Paki’ remark to cadet
Prince summoned for ‘dressing-down without coffee’
The commanding officer of the Household Cavalry has summoned the third-in-line to the throne for what has been described as a dressing-down “without coffee”.
Military sources said that Lieutenant-Colonel Harry Fullerton could fine or demote the Prince. The general view, however, was that the commanding officer would give him a sharp talking to and remind him of the standard of behaviour expected of an officer in the British Army.
Prince Harry appears in a video, which he filmed, walking among platoon comrades as they wait for a flight to Cyprus in 2006. He spots the Pakistani cadet and says: “Ah, our little Paki friend, Ahmed.”
The video, put on the News of the World website, also shows Prince Harry describing another platoon member as a “raghead” after his roving camera spotted an officer cadet with a camouflage scarf around his head. “F*** me, you look like a raghead,” the Prince opined. “Raghead” is an offensive term for an Arab.
He also pretended to be on the phone to the Queen, ending a conversation: “Granny, I’ve got to go, send my love to the corgis and Grandpa . . . bye, God save you . . . yeah, that’s great.”
The video was recorded a year after Prince Harry, who is now training with the Army Air Corps to be a helicopter pilot, was in trouble for wearing a swastika armband and a German Afrika Korps outfit to a fancy dress party.
The Pakistani colleague he was referring to was identified yesterday as Ahmed Raza Khan, now a captain in the Pakistani Army and who was then in Prince Harry’s training platoon at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He went on to win the coveted Overseas Sword, awarded to the best foreign officer cadet at Sandhurst for his intake.
The sword was presented to him by the Queen at the Sovereign’s Parade in April 2006 when he and Prince Harry passed out after successfully completing their 44-week course.
Last night Captain Khan’s father said he was “very, very hurt” by the “insult”. Khan Abbasi, a former bank vice-president who lives in the North West Frontier Province in Pakistan, said he had met Prince Harry when his own son had graduated from Sandhurst.
“I strongly condemn the disgraceful fact that Prince Harry used that language against my son,” he told the Daily Mail. “ That word he used is a hate word, and should never be used against any Pakistani.”
In the video Junior Officer Khan looks bemused by Prince Harry’s remark and does not smile.
Prince Harry apologised yesterday, saying that he had meant no harm to his Pakistani friend. A Clarence House source said: “It’s a feature of the Prince’s life that nothing is really ever private. He has had to learn the hard way. It was unwisely spoken but not malicious.”
Given his service in Afghanistan and his charity work, the view among senior officers was that a remark made three years ago should not be held against Lieutenant Wales. One source said: “Basically he is likely to get a bollocking, but it’s up to the commanding officer.”
The Ministry of Defence said in a statement: “The Army does not tolerate inappropriate behaviour in any shape or form. The Army takes all allegations of inappropriate behaviour very seriously and all substantive allegations are investigated. This case will be dealt with in line with normal army procedures.”
Captain Khan’s uncle, Iftakhar Raja, who lives in Britain, said: “‘Paki’ is definitely a derogatory remark. We expect better from our Royal Family.”
The Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, a former commanding officer who lost his position as homeland security spokesman for saying that racist terms were often used in the Army, said: “Whatever the context, Harry must have known that he was under constant scrutiny and that what he said was unacceptable.”
David Cameron, the Conservative leader, said it was “a completely unacceptable thing to say”. Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said that if a member of his senior team had used the word “Paki”, he would almost certainly have been dismissed.
St James’s Palace said: “Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term [Paki] can be and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause. There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend.”
Bloody all too PR over here. Can't see how Paki is different to Aussie, Brit, etc, etc... I bet if he called an Aussie bloke a convict, there wouldn't be half the coverage either. Also, the other remark he makes about a bloke being a raghead is surely worse right?
at his pretend conversation with the Queen though....Prince Harry in hot water over ‘Paki’ remark to cadet
Prince summoned for ‘dressing-down without coffee’
The commanding officer of the Household Cavalry has summoned the third-in-line to the throne for what has been described as a dressing-down “without coffee”.
Military sources said that Lieutenant-Colonel Harry Fullerton could fine or demote the Prince. The general view, however, was that the commanding officer would give him a sharp talking to and remind him of the standard of behaviour expected of an officer in the British Army.
Prince Harry appears in a video, which he filmed, walking among platoon comrades as they wait for a flight to Cyprus in 2006. He spots the Pakistani cadet and says: “Ah, our little Paki friend, Ahmed.”
The video, put on the News of the World website, also shows Prince Harry describing another platoon member as a “raghead” after his roving camera spotted an officer cadet with a camouflage scarf around his head. “F*** me, you look like a raghead,” the Prince opined. “Raghead” is an offensive term for an Arab.
He also pretended to be on the phone to the Queen, ending a conversation: “Granny, I’ve got to go, send my love to the corgis and Grandpa . . . bye, God save you . . . yeah, that’s great.”
The video was recorded a year after Prince Harry, who is now training with the Army Air Corps to be a helicopter pilot, was in trouble for wearing a swastika armband and a German Afrika Korps outfit to a fancy dress party.
The Pakistani colleague he was referring to was identified yesterday as Ahmed Raza Khan, now a captain in the Pakistani Army and who was then in Prince Harry’s training platoon at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He went on to win the coveted Overseas Sword, awarded to the best foreign officer cadet at Sandhurst for his intake.
The sword was presented to him by the Queen at the Sovereign’s Parade in April 2006 when he and Prince Harry passed out after successfully completing their 44-week course.
Last night Captain Khan’s father said he was “very, very hurt” by the “insult”. Khan Abbasi, a former bank vice-president who lives in the North West Frontier Province in Pakistan, said he had met Prince Harry when his own son had graduated from Sandhurst.
“I strongly condemn the disgraceful fact that Prince Harry used that language against my son,” he told the Daily Mail. “ That word he used is a hate word, and should never be used against any Pakistani.”
In the video Junior Officer Khan looks bemused by Prince Harry’s remark and does not smile.
Prince Harry apologised yesterday, saying that he had meant no harm to his Pakistani friend. A Clarence House source said: “It’s a feature of the Prince’s life that nothing is really ever private. He has had to learn the hard way. It was unwisely spoken but not malicious.”
Given his service in Afghanistan and his charity work, the view among senior officers was that a remark made three years ago should not be held against Lieutenant Wales. One source said: “Basically he is likely to get a bollocking, but it’s up to the commanding officer.”
The Ministry of Defence said in a statement: “The Army does not tolerate inappropriate behaviour in any shape or form. The Army takes all allegations of inappropriate behaviour very seriously and all substantive allegations are investigated. This case will be dealt with in line with normal army procedures.”
Captain Khan’s uncle, Iftakhar Raja, who lives in Britain, said: “‘Paki’ is definitely a derogatory remark. We expect better from our Royal Family.”
The Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, a former commanding officer who lost his position as homeland security spokesman for saying that racist terms were often used in the Army, said: “Whatever the context, Harry must have known that he was under constant scrutiny and that what he said was unacceptable.”
David Cameron, the Conservative leader, said it was “a completely unacceptable thing to say”. Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said that if a member of his senior team had used the word “Paki”, he would almost certainly have been dismissed.
St James’s Palace said: “Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term [Paki] can be and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause. There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend.”
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 6:56pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
'God save you . . . yeah, that’s great.”
FUCKING LOL!
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 7:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Seriously at his fake convo.. GOLD.
Honestly though, who gives a fuck, maybe they should talk to his "Paki" mate and see how he felt about the comment before condemning him.
Jesus, you would think there were more important things to worry about than that..
at his fake convo.. GOLD.Honestly though, who gives a fuck, maybe they should talk to his "Paki" mate and see how he felt about the comment before condemning him.
Jesus, you would think there were more important things to worry about than that..
Get off my lawn.
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 9:38amSubject: Re: In The News Today
'God save you . . . yeah, that’s great.”
FUCKING LOL!
bahahah
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 1:21pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: :lol: That was hilarious!
Kudos to Harry, William is too much of a conformist for my liking.
Kudos to Harry, William is too much of a conformist for my liking.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 4:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Must say, the snippets they just showed on Ch10 of Bush giving his speech were quite interesting.
Good to see him admitting to some of the mistakes that he clearly made during his term.
Good to see him admitting to some of the mistakes that he clearly made during his term.
Get off my lawn.
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Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 6:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Good to see him admitting to some of the mistakes that he clearly made during his term.
Even better to see him completely fuck up a word right at the end (forgot the word unfortunately).
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Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 7:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Even better to see him completely fuck up a word right at the end (forgot the word unfortunately).
"Misunderestimated"
Get off my lawn.
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 7:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
had a few-run ins with this twat back in the day, put him on the floor a few times at the Kent Town for being a fuckwit.
some things never change.
Accused 'stole, torched' unattended police car
January 13, 2009 02:00pm
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A MAN stole two cars - including a police vehicle - and lead officers on a high-speed chase before torching his getaway car, police have claimed.
Mark Lawrence Shelton, 25, made a brief appearance in the Adelaide Magistrates Court today.
He has yet to plead to one count of aggravated driving dangerously to escape police pursuit and one count of driving under disqualification.
He is also charged with two counts of dishonestly taking property and two counts of arson.
Police will allege that in October last year, officers chased Shelton through the streets of Edwardstown while he was driving a stolen Subaru.
Shelton allegedly stopped near Cross Rd and Anzac Hwy, abandoning the vehicle, which had smoke coming from its motor.
It is alleged that, while officers searched for him in a block of flats, Shelton stole their unattended patrol car.
A second chase ensued, but officers lost sight of the car - it was found on fire and abandoned, a short time later, in Tusmore.
Chief Magistrate Liz Bolton remanded Shelton to appear again next month.
some things never change.
Accused 'stole, torched' unattended police car
January 13, 2009 02:00pm
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A MAN stole two cars - including a police vehicle - and lead officers on a high-speed chase before torching his getaway car, police have claimed.
Mark Lawrence Shelton, 25, made a brief appearance in the Adelaide Magistrates Court today.
He has yet to plead to one count of aggravated driving dangerously to escape police pursuit and one count of driving under disqualification.
He is also charged with two counts of dishonestly taking property and two counts of arson.
Police will allege that in October last year, officers chased Shelton through the streets of Edwardstown while he was driving a stolen Subaru.
Shelton allegedly stopped near Cross Rd and Anzac Hwy, abandoning the vehicle, which had smoke coming from its motor.
It is alleged that, while officers searched for him in a block of flats, Shelton stole their unattended patrol car.
A second chase ensued, but officers lost sight of the car - it was found on fire and abandoned, a short time later, in Tusmore.
Chief Magistrate Liz Bolton remanded Shelton to appear again next month.
Straight Edge since 1994.
Dyslexics are teople poo.
Dyslexics are teople poo.
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 9:50amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wasn't sure if this had been posted before.
Boy Kills Mother Over Halo 3
ELYRIA â Daniel Petric shot his parents -- killing his mother -- because they wouldn't allow him to play the violent video game Halo 3, prosecutors told a judge at the boy's murder trial Monday.
In September 2007, Daniel, then 16, had sneaked out of his bedroom window to purchase the game at a store against his father's orders. When he returned home, his parents caught him with the game and took it from him. His father, Mark, a minister at New Life Assembly of God in Wellington, put the game in a lockbox in a closet where he also kept a 9mm handgun, according to prosecutors.
About a month later, on Oct. 20, 2007, Daniel used his father's key to open the lockbox and remove the gun and the game. The boy shot his parents, killing his mother and gravely wounding his father. As his father lay wounded, Daniel tried to place the gun in his father's hand.
Also on Monday, a tearful Mark Petric testified that his son came up behind him as he sat on the couch and said, "Would you guys close your eyes? I have a surprise for you."
Petric, 45, said he "expected a pleasant surprise" and closed his eyes. Then his head went numb. As the blood poured from a bullet wound in his head, he realized his wife, Susan Petric, 43, was lying dead on a nearby seat, shot in the head, arms and chest.
If convicted, the defendant could be sentenced to up to life in prison with a parole eligibility date that would be determined based on the offenses. He is not eligible for the death penalty because of his age.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/boy_killed_mom_and_shot_dad_ov.html
What. The. FUCK?! :whut:
Boy Kills Mother Over Halo 3
ELYRIA â Daniel Petric shot his parents -- killing his mother -- because they wouldn't allow him to play the violent video game Halo 3, prosecutors told a judge at the boy's murder trial Monday.
In September 2007, Daniel, then 16, had sneaked out of his bedroom window to purchase the game at a store against his father's orders. When he returned home, his parents caught him with the game and took it from him. His father, Mark, a minister at New Life Assembly of God in Wellington, put the game in a lockbox in a closet where he also kept a 9mm handgun, according to prosecutors.
About a month later, on Oct. 20, 2007, Daniel used his father's key to open the lockbox and remove the gun and the game. The boy shot his parents, killing his mother and gravely wounding his father. As his father lay wounded, Daniel tried to place the gun in his father's hand.
Also on Monday, a tearful Mark Petric testified that his son came up behind him as he sat on the couch and said, "Would you guys close your eyes? I have a surprise for you."
Petric, 45, said he "expected a pleasant surprise" and closed his eyes. Then his head went numb. As the blood poured from a bullet wound in his head, he realized his wife, Susan Petric, 43, was lying dead on a nearby seat, shot in the head, arms and chest.
If convicted, the defendant could be sentenced to up to life in prison with a parole eligibility date that would be determined based on the offenses. He is not eligible for the death penalty because of his age.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/boy_killed_mom_and_shot_dad_ov.html
What. The. FUCK?! :whut:
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 9:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
should have knifed him. More 733t.
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 11:25amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
should have knifed him. More 733t.
then teabagged them.
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 10:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Proof that not playing violent video games causes violence, if he was playing the game he wouldn't have killed his parents! :E
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 11:11pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
"Would you guys close your eyes? I have a surprise for you."
Petric, 45, said he "expected a pleasant surprise" and closed his eyes. Then his head went numb. As the blood poured from a bullet wound in his head, he realized his wife, Susan Petric, 43, was lying dead on a nearby seat, shot in the head, arms and chest.
Petric, 45, said he "expected a pleasant surprise" and closed his eyes. Then his head went numb. As the blood poured from a bullet wound in his head, he realized his wife, Susan Petric, 43, was lying dead on a nearby seat, shot in the head, arms and chest.
2 head shots, nice...
:teefthumbs:
Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 11:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
An update on little Adolph. I wonder if they did this just to try to teach the parents a lesson... conform or your kids get taken away!
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
The three-year-old boy and his two sisters - JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie - were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.
So far no officially reason has been given for the intervention, and local police say they have not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/)
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
The three-year-old boy and his two sisters - JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie - were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.
So far no officially reason has been given for the intervention, and local police say they have not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/)
Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 11:51amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Surely they can't do that legally?
Besides, the police can't disclose information regarding reports unless it is in the public interest? Dunno.
Besides, the police can't disclose information regarding reports unless it is in the public interest? Dunno.
Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 12:32pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Division of Youth and Family Services.
That actually sounds like a wing of the nazi party.
Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 12:33pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
It sounds like you'll find your dream job there too!
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 9:31amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
An update on little Adolph. I wonder if they did this just to try to teach the parents a lesson... conform or your kids get taken away!
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
They'll argue that calling the child that is child abuse.
Because the kids parents are blue collar rednecks with no money, they won't fight it in court unless some lawyer with a bee in his bonnet about freedom agrees to represent them.
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 11:02amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
They'll argue that calling the child that is child abuse.
Because the kids parents are blue collar rednecks with no money, they won't fight it in court unless some lawyer with a bee in his bonnet about freedom agrees to represent them.
Because the kids parents are blue collar rednecks with no money, they won't fight it in court unless some lawyer with a bee in his bonnet about freedom agrees to represent them.
wont be a jewish lawyer! :E
there was a case in NZ a few years ago where a fucked up bogan couple had a child and tried to name it 'fucking cunt' - it was taken away from them before they were due to leave the hospital even.
that kind of shit is pretty depressing when you consider the huge responsibility of raising a child and giving it the love and nuturing it needs and deserves.
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 11:15amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
there was a case in NZ a few years ago where a fucked up bogan couple had a child and tried to name it 'fucking cunt' - it was taken away from them before they were due to leave the hospital even.
that kind of shit is pretty depressing when you consider the huge responsibility of raising a child and giving it the love and nuturing it needs and deserves.
that kind of shit is pretty depressing when you consider the huge responsibility of raising a child and giving it the love and nuturing it needs and deserves.
Who are you to say Fucking Cunt and Aldof Hitler won't be loved as much as anyone else?
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 11:35amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Who are you to say Fucking Cunt and Aldof Hitler won't be loved as much as anyone else?
Yeah.... I love Fucking Cunt :E
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 12:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
An update on little Adolph. I wonder if they did this just to try to teach the parents a lesson... conform or your kids get taken away!
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
The three-year-old boy and his two sisters - JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie - were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.
So far no officially reason has been given for the intervention, and local police say they have not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/)
Adolf Hitler taken by US child services
A young boy named Adolf Hitler has been taken away from his parents and put into temporary care.
The three-year-old boy and his two sisters - JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie - were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.
So far no officially reason has been given for the intervention, and local police say they have not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/5262970/adolf-hitler-taken-child-services/)
this all started a while ago. Saw an article last year that it was the kids birthday so they were getting a cake made for him, but the bakery refused to write Happy Birthday Adolph Hitler on it
well, thats providing it's the same kid lol
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 12:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9176/algadolffa7.jpg)
Bumping my previous photochop for relevance
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 12:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
oh lmao only just noticed his sisters name JoyceLynn Aryan Nation
hahahaha
hahahaha
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 12:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
JoyceLynn Aryan Nation
christ...
Pretty damn lol
BecS
Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 11:22amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/721613/hackers-extorting-facebook-users-with-mugging-tale
Hackers are hijacking the profiles of Australian Facebook users and attempting to extort money from their friends using a bogus story about being mugged in London.
I got asked for money by an account hijacker, ever when i was saying "get off this account you fking hacker" they were still saying "Rebecca please help, what are you talking about!!" Wankers.
Hackers are hijacking the profiles of Australian Facebook users and attempting to extort money from their friends using a bogus story about being mugged in London.
I got asked for money by an account hijacker, ever when i was saying "get off this account you fking hacker" they were still saying "Rebecca please help, what are you talking about!!" Wankers.
Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 12:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/721613/hackers-extorting-facebook-users-with-mugging-tale
Hackers are hijacking the profiles of Australian Facebook users and attempting to extort money from their friends using a bogus story about being mugged in London.
I got asked for money by an account hijacker, ever when i was saying "get off this account you fking hacker" they were still saying "Rebecca please help, what are you talking about!!" Wankers.
:lol: As if anyone that actually knows you calls you Rebecca Hackers are hijacking the profiles of Australian Facebook users and attempting to extort money from their friends using a bogus story about being mugged in London.
I got asked for money by an account hijacker, ever when i was saying "get off this account you fking hacker" they were still saying "Rebecca please help, what are you talking about!!" Wankers.
Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 12:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: As if anyone that actually knows you calls you Rebecca
lol i do
Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 12:36pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol i do
lol *gets back in box*Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 12:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
only when I'm asking for cash though
Posted: 20 Jan 2009, 1:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: Fair enough
Posted: 21 Jan 2009, 4:09pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Teen charged with assaulting mom with taco (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8257440&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)
(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8257434&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)
VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- A 19-year-old Deltona man is arrested for assaulting his own mother, with a taco. Dena Moir tells Fox 35 News her son, Zachary Moir, got out of control Wednesday night when she was calling him down for dinner. When he refused to stop playing his X-box and come down for dinner, Dena Moir says she went upstairs and unplugged the game, that's when she says Zachary pushed her and called her a bad name. "I've been having trouble with him for awhile won't work, wont' go to school. He's being rude and disrespectful. Pushing things to the limit as far as the violence.â
A few minutes later Dena says she was in the kitchen cleaning and cooking tacos for dinner when Zachary showed up. That's when she says he slapped her arm and threw a taco in her face. âHe went ahead and hit me with the taco and I got taco all over my shirt and kitchen. Iâve threatened to call police before. But anyway this time, I thought he went too far so I called police and he's in jail now.â
Dena Moir called cops and said she wants to press charges. Moir says Zachary has tried to call several times, but she's not picking up the phone yet. She says she's going to let him sit in his jail cell in Volusia County for a few days to teach him a lesson.
:lol:
(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8257434&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)
VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- A 19-year-old Deltona man is arrested for assaulting his own mother, with a taco. Dena Moir tells Fox 35 News her son, Zachary Moir, got out of control Wednesday night when she was calling him down for dinner. When he refused to stop playing his X-box and come down for dinner, Dena Moir says she went upstairs and unplugged the game, that's when she says Zachary pushed her and called her a bad name. "I've been having trouble with him for awhile won't work, wont' go to school. He's being rude and disrespectful. Pushing things to the limit as far as the violence.â
A few minutes later Dena says she was in the kitchen cleaning and cooking tacos for dinner when Zachary showed up. That's when she says he slapped her arm and threw a taco in her face. âHe went ahead and hit me with the taco and I got taco all over my shirt and kitchen. Iâve threatened to call police before. But anyway this time, I thought he went too far so I called police and he's in jail now.â
Dena Moir called cops and said she wants to press charges. Moir says Zachary has tried to call several times, but she's not picking up the phone yet. She says she's going to let him sit in his jail cell in Volusia County for a few days to teach him a lesson.
:lol:
Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 12:39amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Man murdered wife for changing Facebook status to 'single' (http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article5570308.ece)
Will Pavia
A man murdered his estranged wife after he became âenragedâ that she had changed her marital status to single on the social networking site Facebook.
Edward Richardson, 41, was found guilty of stabbing to death Sarah Richardson, 26, a hairdresser, in her parentsâ house in Staffordshire on May 12 last year.
Fiona Cortese of the Crown Prosecution Service said: âRicharsdon became enraged when Sarah changed her marital status on Facebook to single and decided to go and see her as she was not responding to his messages.â
Stafford Crown Court heard that Richardson, a carpenter from Biddulph, Stoke-on-Trent, had sought out Mrs Richardson in her parents house and entered by breaking the front door window.
âOnce inside he found Sarah in her bedroom and subjected her to a frenzied and brutal attack with a knife and then attempted to take his own life,â said Ms Cortese.
She said: âWe hope that todayâs guilty verdict will go some way to easing the pain of Sarahâs friends and family after losing her in such a violent and abrupt way.â
Beryl and Alan Boote, the parents of Mrs Richardson, issued a statement after the verdict. âThere simply arenât the words to describe how Sarahâs death, and the awful way in which she died, has affected us,â they said. âWe miss her so much. Sarah was the loveliest daughter anyone could wish for. She was honest, loyal and sweet, and everyone loved her.â
Will Pavia
A man murdered his estranged wife after he became âenragedâ that she had changed her marital status to single on the social networking site Facebook.
Edward Richardson, 41, was found guilty of stabbing to death Sarah Richardson, 26, a hairdresser, in her parentsâ house in Staffordshire on May 12 last year.
Fiona Cortese of the Crown Prosecution Service said: âRicharsdon became enraged when Sarah changed her marital status on Facebook to single and decided to go and see her as she was not responding to his messages.â
Stafford Crown Court heard that Richardson, a carpenter from Biddulph, Stoke-on-Trent, had sought out Mrs Richardson in her parents house and entered by breaking the front door window.
âOnce inside he found Sarah in her bedroom and subjected her to a frenzied and brutal attack with a knife and then attempted to take his own life,â said Ms Cortese.
She said: âWe hope that todayâs guilty verdict will go some way to easing the pain of Sarahâs friends and family after losing her in such a violent and abrupt way.â
Beryl and Alan Boote, the parents of Mrs Richardson, issued a statement after the verdict. âThere simply arenât the words to describe how Sarahâs death, and the awful way in which she died, has affected us,â they said. âWe miss her so much. Sarah was the loveliest daughter anyone could wish for. She was honest, loyal and sweet, and everyone loved her.â
Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 3:44pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Goat detained over armed robbery
Fri Jan 23, 12:08 pm ET
LAGOS (Reuters) â Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.
Vigilantes took the black and white beast to the police saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into a goat to escape arrest after trying to steal a Mazda 323.
"The group of vigilante men came to report that while they were on patrol they saw some hoodlums attempting to rob a car. They pursued them. However one of them escaped while the other turned into a goat," Kwara state police spokesman Tunde Mohammed told Reuters by telephone.
"We cannot confirm the story, but the goat is in our custody. We cannot base our information on something mystical. It is something that has to be proved scientifically, that a human being turned into a goat," he said.
Belief in witchcraft is widespread in parts of Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation. Residents came to the police station to see the goat, photographed in one national newspaper on its knees next to a pile of straw.
Fri Jan 23, 12:08 pm ET
LAGOS (Reuters) â Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.
Vigilantes took the black and white beast to the police saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into a goat to escape arrest after trying to steal a Mazda 323.
"The group of vigilante men came to report that while they were on patrol they saw some hoodlums attempting to rob a car. They pursued them. However one of them escaped while the other turned into a goat," Kwara state police spokesman Tunde Mohammed told Reuters by telephone.
"We cannot confirm the story, but the goat is in our custody. We cannot base our information on something mystical. It is something that has to be proved scientifically, that a human being turned into a goat," he said.
Belief in witchcraft is widespread in parts of Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation. Residents came to the police station to see the goat, photographed in one national newspaper on its knees next to a pile of straw.
Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 9:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
PMSBuddy.com reminder service signs up 100,000 people
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,24975173-5007185,00.html
* Monthly PMS reminder service to warn men
* 100,000 signed up worldwide, 4000 Aussies
* Web, Facebook plus plans for iPhone app
ONE hundred thousand men sick of copping a monthly serve from cranky wives and girlfriends have signed up for an online reminder service that warns when pre-menstrual syndrome (PMS) is about to hit.
PMSBuddy.com, the brainchild of a 28-year-old bloke whose mates were too often in cycle-related strife, is designed for men who have a darling of a partner for three weeks of the month â and a demon for the rest.
The reminders include pithy messages of encouragement such as âSheâs on yellow - tread carefully, fellaâ - as well as tips for how men can mitigate the damage.
It tells men never to ask if a woman has PMS, and if all else fails to buy flowers, deemed to be "kryptonite to PMS."
Championing itself on the catchcry, "saving relationships one month at a time," the website also features a "national alert level" indicator for the US, showing how many women have PMS each day as well as the "overall threat index" on a scale of 1-4.
CEO and founder Jordan Eisenberg developed PMSbuddy.com after friends talked about the world-class diplomacy men needed to bring up the topic of PMS with their partners.
"It's hard for guys to know if they did something to piss of their lady and hard to remember when PMS is, and always awkward to confront and ask the question without coming off like a jerk,â he told news.com.au.
âOne of the guys actually kept track in his daily planner, and from there we decided to automate this process and offer it to the masses."
He admits that while functionality is first and foremost, some women may find the idea of their cycles being "tracked" a tad offensive.
"Certainly some do," says Eisenberg, "but the majority do feel it is helpful, and the remainder at least get a kick and a laugh out of it.
âThose in relationships have been overwhelmingly supportive and many have actually signed themselves up to warn their boyfriends (or) husbands. If anything, we feel we can minimise unnecessary fights by allowing men to offer some slack."
PMSBuddy started nine months ago and is now tracking the menstrual cycles of more than 100,000 women worldwide, including 4000 in Australia and 1000 in New Zealand via the site and a Facebook application.
Users enter the date and length of a woman's last cycle. Women can sign up to send reminders to up to five men in their life.
Anything from one to five days notice can be specified, allowing for warnings of various degrees of danger in the form of yellow, green and red alerts.
Eisenberg has received hundreds of emails of praise from both men and women, he said.
And if the online forums are anything to go by, it has certainly stirred some controversy.
Both women and men have written in with stories of PMS experiences, including one male who describes the once monthly bus that shows up to take his wife âto crazy town,â and another who suggests all males should "just go and play golf" for a week.
But women have also used the forum to have their say, such as this advice from PMS sufferer, Chloe:
"Seriously guys, GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD!," writes Stephanie. "We don't act like bitches because of pain. Thats saying we're weak and can't take pain. Also, if you don't get cramps, SHUT UP! You have no idea what thats like. We don't use PMS as an excuse, its a reason. During PMS, our hormones are messed up and mess up our emotions. Not our fault. And guys--Don't you DARE insult us, because what you don't realize is that we actually have PMS because of our sacrifice to you. We're the ones who have to carry a baby, and because of it, 1/4 of about 35 years of our life, we go through pain and suffering. Understand it. Live by it. Shut up."
Stephanie also tries to offer some advice to alienated boyfriends:
"The absolute last thing you should do when I'm PMSing is ask if I'm PMSing. I don't care how you ask it, or say it, but do not imply that my feelings at that point at that time are irrational- even if they are. Seriously, I've had boyfriends in the past who did this and they had the wrath of god unleashed upon them," she writes.
Eisenberg says the site's fan base is growing rapidly and has plans to launch an iPhone application in the immediate future.
PMSBuddy.com reminder service signs up 100,000 people
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,24975173-5007185,00.html
* Monthly PMS reminder service to warn men
* 100,000 signed up worldwide, 4000 Aussies
* Web, Facebook plus plans for iPhone app
ONE hundred thousand men sick of copping a monthly serve from cranky wives and girlfriends have signed up for an online reminder service that warns when pre-menstrual syndrome (PMS) is about to hit.
PMSBuddy.com, the brainchild of a 28-year-old bloke whose mates were too often in cycle-related strife, is designed for men who have a darling of a partner for three weeks of the month â and a demon for the rest.
The reminders include pithy messages of encouragement such as âSheâs on yellow - tread carefully, fellaâ - as well as tips for how men can mitigate the damage.
It tells men never to ask if a woman has PMS, and if all else fails to buy flowers, deemed to be "kryptonite to PMS."
Championing itself on the catchcry, "saving relationships one month at a time," the website also features a "national alert level" indicator for the US, showing how many women have PMS each day as well as the "overall threat index" on a scale of 1-4.
CEO and founder Jordan Eisenberg developed PMSbuddy.com after friends talked about the world-class diplomacy men needed to bring up the topic of PMS with their partners.
"It's hard for guys to know if they did something to piss of their lady and hard to remember when PMS is, and always awkward to confront and ask the question without coming off like a jerk,â he told news.com.au.
âOne of the guys actually kept track in his daily planner, and from there we decided to automate this process and offer it to the masses."
He admits that while functionality is first and foremost, some women may find the idea of their cycles being "tracked" a tad offensive.
"Certainly some do," says Eisenberg, "but the majority do feel it is helpful, and the remainder at least get a kick and a laugh out of it.
âThose in relationships have been overwhelmingly supportive and many have actually signed themselves up to warn their boyfriends (or) husbands. If anything, we feel we can minimise unnecessary fights by allowing men to offer some slack."
PMSBuddy started nine months ago and is now tracking the menstrual cycles of more than 100,000 women worldwide, including 4000 in Australia and 1000 in New Zealand via the site and a Facebook application.
Users enter the date and length of a woman's last cycle. Women can sign up to send reminders to up to five men in their life.
Anything from one to five days notice can be specified, allowing for warnings of various degrees of danger in the form of yellow, green and red alerts.
Eisenberg has received hundreds of emails of praise from both men and women, he said.
And if the online forums are anything to go by, it has certainly stirred some controversy.
Both women and men have written in with stories of PMS experiences, including one male who describes the once monthly bus that shows up to take his wife âto crazy town,â and another who suggests all males should "just go and play golf" for a week.
But women have also used the forum to have their say, such as this advice from PMS sufferer, Chloe:
"Seriously guys, GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD!," writes Stephanie. "We don't act like bitches because of pain. Thats saying we're weak and can't take pain. Also, if you don't get cramps, SHUT UP! You have no idea what thats like. We don't use PMS as an excuse, its a reason. During PMS, our hormones are messed up and mess up our emotions. Not our fault. And guys--Don't you DARE insult us, because what you don't realize is that we actually have PMS because of our sacrifice to you. We're the ones who have to carry a baby, and because of it, 1/4 of about 35 years of our life, we go through pain and suffering. Understand it. Live by it. Shut up."
Stephanie also tries to offer some advice to alienated boyfriends:
"The absolute last thing you should do when I'm PMSing is ask if I'm PMSing. I don't care how you ask it, or say it, but do not imply that my feelings at that point at that time are irrational- even if they are. Seriously, I've had boyfriends in the past who did this and they had the wrath of god unleashed upon them," she writes.
Eisenberg says the site's fan base is growing rapidly and has plans to launch an iPhone application in the immediate future.
Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 9:55amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
wow that is the BEST idea EVAR!!
Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 12:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Users enter the date and length of a woman's last cycle. Women can sign up to send reminders to up to five men in their life.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 12:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I saw this on the news this morning; a 6 page epic of a ranty letter sent to Richard Branson regarding an on-flight menu. Oh the hilarity!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4344890/Virgin-the-worlds-best-passenger-complaint-letter.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4344890/Virgin-the-worlds-best-passenger-complaint-letter.html
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 3:32pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: Bring on the photochopping of his Olympic photos!
Phelps: Photo with marijuana pipe real
Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him inhaling from a marijuana pipe.
In a statement released Sunday, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games did not dispute the authenticity of the exclusive picture published Saturday by the tabloid News of the World.
"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804 (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804)
Phelps: Photo with marijuana pipe real
Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him inhaling from a marijuana pipe.
In a statement released Sunday, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games did not dispute the authenticity of the exclusive picture published Saturday by the tabloid News of the World.
"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804 (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804)
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 3:40pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: Bring on the photochopping of his Olympic photos!
Phelps: Photo with marijuana pipe real
Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him inhaling from a marijuana pipe.
In a statement released Sunday, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games did not dispute the authenticity of the exclusive picture published Saturday by the tabloid News of the World.
"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804 (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804)
Phelps: Photo with marijuana pipe real
Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him inhaling from a marijuana pipe.
In a statement released Sunday, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games did not dispute the authenticity of the exclusive picture published Saturday by the tabloid News of the World.
"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804 (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804)
The dude is a stoner and yet can still win olympic medals... I think he needs a medal for that!
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 3:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The dude is a stoner and yet can still win olympic medals... I think he needs a medal for that!
Agreed whole heartedly!
Respect! :lighter:
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 3:53pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
he'll be to stoners what Ben Cousin is to ice heads now
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 5:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
saw this on inthemix :/
Girl dies of 'ecstasy overdose' at Perth Big Day Out
A 17-year-old girl attending the Perth leg of the 2009 Big Day Out tour died of a suspected ‘ecstasy overdose’ yesterday, Sunday February 1st, after being rushed to hospital from the event at Claremont Showgrounds.
Police have now kicked off an investigation into the tragic incident, with media reports indicating the girl’s friends told authorities ‘she had taken more than one’ (Perth Now). Following her collapse she was promptly treated at the scene by paramedics before being taken to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital.
thewest.com.au reports that the girl was dropped at the event by her mother, and that her friends said she had taken a pill before entering the festival and then another as she waited in line ‘because she was frightened that she would be searched on entry’. She is said to have collapsed around 1pm.
Sniffer dogs were out in force as punters made their way to the festival, with more than 60 drug-related charges handed out on the day including 55 for possession, three for intent to sell or supply and four for possessing smoking implements. Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cannabis and dexamphetamine were also seized.
Girl dies of 'ecstasy overdose' at Perth Big Day Out
A 17-year-old girl attending the Perth leg of the 2009 Big Day Out tour died of a suspected ‘ecstasy overdose’ yesterday, Sunday February 1st, after being rushed to hospital from the event at Claremont Showgrounds.
Police have now kicked off an investigation into the tragic incident, with media reports indicating the girl’s friends told authorities ‘she had taken more than one’ (Perth Now). Following her collapse she was promptly treated at the scene by paramedics before being taken to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital.
thewest.com.au reports that the girl was dropped at the event by her mother, and that her friends said she had taken a pill before entering the festival and then another as she waited in line ‘because she was frightened that she would be searched on entry’. She is said to have collapsed around 1pm.
Sniffer dogs were out in force as punters made their way to the festival, with more than 60 drug-related charges handed out on the day including 55 for possession, three for intent to sell or supply and four for possessing smoking implements. Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cannabis and dexamphetamine were also seized.
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Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 5:07pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sniffer dogs were out in force as munters made their way to the festival, with more than 60 drug-related charges handed out on the day including 55 for possession, three for intent to sell or supply and four for possessing smoking implements. Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cannabis and dexamphetamine were still brought into the venue by thousands.
that's more like it!
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Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 5:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
saw this on inthemix :/
Girl dies of 'ecstasy overdose' at Perth Big Day Out
A 17-year-old girl attending the Perth leg of the 2009 Big Day Out tour died of a suspected ‘ecstasy overdose’ yesterday, Sunday February 1st, after being rushed to hospital from the event at Claremont Showgrounds.
Police have now kicked off an investigation into the tragic incident, with media reports indicating the girl’s friends told authorities ‘she had taken more than one’ (Perth Now). Following her collapse she was promptly treated at the scene by paramedics before being taken to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital.
thewest.com.au reports that the girl was dropped at the event by her mother, and that her friends said she had taken a pill before entering the festival and then another as she waited in line ‘because she was frightened that she would be searched on entry’. She is said to have collapsed around 1pm.
Sniffer dogs were out in force as punters made their way to the festival, with more than 60 drug-related charges handed out on the day including 55 for possession, three for intent to sell or supply and four for possessing smoking implements. Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cannabis and dexamphetamine were also seized.
There you go...
Way to go Cops - Saving the world one pill at a time.
Do they honestly think getting people for possession makes a huge difference to the world? It must be like shooting fish in a barrel.
Get off my lawn.
EzPosts: 4,532
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 5:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Erk
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 5:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Way to go Cops - Saving the world one pill at a time.
:lol:
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 6:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I read the same thing on news.com.au, as usual the retarded comments were flying thick and fast from the usual types.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 8:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I read the same thing on news.com.au, as usual the retarded comments were flying thick and fast from the usual types.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
why not just come back with " Ban news paper reader comments there just fat old people who need a bowl of sauce to go with the chip on their shoulder" ?
Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 9:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I read the same thing on news.com.au, as usual the retarded comments were flying thick and fast from the usual types.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
reminds me of the time at the supposed last big day out ever ("six & out" 1997) when we rang up bob francis pretending to be an old cunt who lived in wayville complaining about all the stoned hippies around the place 'leaving evidence that theyd been fornicating everywhere' while actually managing to get bong noises broadcast to all the listeners... hehe, still have the recording
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Rumour pres. Kid Kenobi @ HQ, Friday 25th Nov
Kobra Kai @ RocketBar, Friday 25th Nov
The Levitators @ Crown & Sceptre, Sat 3rd Dec
Nuclear Summer @ Queens Theatre, 13-14 Jan 2012
1994-2006 D&B vinyl sale - classics, well looked after and priced to sell!
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Posted: 2 Feb 2009, 9:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I love Bob Francis.
Joining him at his table in some swank restaurant years ago whilst tripping off my dial on 15 wangers is one of the funniest moments of my life.
Joining him at his table in some swank restaurant years ago whilst tripping off my dial on 15 wangers is one of the funniest moments of my life.
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CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 9:12amSubject: Re: In The News Today
reminds me of the time at the supposed last big day out ever ("six & out" 1997) when we rang up bob francis pretending to be an old cunt who lived in wayville complaining about all the stoned hippies around the place 'leaving evidence that theyd been fornicating everywhere' while actually managing to get bong noises broadcast to all the listeners... hehe, still have the recording
Post it up if you can! I remember his rants about Enchanted as well.
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 11:17amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I read the same thing on news.com.au, as usual the retarded comments were flying thick and fast from the usual types.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
'Ban these Big Day Outs they're just full of young people drunk and on drugs' was one gem that springs to mind.
You should have seen the fucking 'anti-drug' campaigner commenting on the morning show. This story really boiled my blood. What the police are doing is conversely socially and ethically WRONG. Then I had to listen to my Nana going on like a porkchop. Meh.
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 11:31amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I love Bob Francis.
You could give the guy his own thread.
Has anyone seen the John Safran short film he did on him about 5 years back?
I might try to Rip it & you tube it
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:13pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
We is getting more moolah, possibly.
THE Federal Government has unveiled a massive $42 billion nation building and employment plan aimed at retaining 90,000 jobs over the next two years and insulating Australia against the worst of the global economic recession.
Billed as a "rapid response" to the deteriorating global economic conditions, the centrepiece of the plan is $28.8 billion of spending on schools, housing, energy efficiency in homes, community infrastructure and roads, and support to small business to be delivered mostly in 2009-10 and 2010-11.
The remaining third of the plan is an immediate injection of $12.7 billion in one-off bonus payments of $950 each for low- and middle-income households and individuals through five bonuses to be paid in the next few weeks through either the Australian Tax Office or Centrelink.
It means 8.7 million workers earning $100,000 or less will receive a lump sum payment of up to $950 each from April....
About 1.5 million single-income families will also receive the payment, provided they receive Family Tax Benefit Part B, in the fortnight beginning March 11.
The unemployment rate is predicted to rise to 7 per cent by mid-next year, up from 4.5 per cent in December...
Students, business also benefit
The Government will also provide a one-off $950 training and learning bonus for eligible students and people outside of the workforce returning to study to help with the costs of education and training.
The package, which is virtually a mini-budget in all but name, is the second major economic stimulus package announced by the government since the $10.4 billion economic security strategy released in October.
It takes the total amount spent by the government on stimulating the economy since September to $88.7 billion, including bank deposit guarantees, the car industry package, as well as investment in residential-backed mortgage securities, local government, infrastructure projects, and on the states through the Council of Australian Governments (COAG).
The statement said while the nation was in a better position than most other countries to weather the global recession, Australia could no longer "resist the pull of global economic forces".
THE Federal Government has unveiled a massive $42 billion nation building and employment plan aimed at retaining 90,000 jobs over the next two years and insulating Australia against the worst of the global economic recession.
Billed as a "rapid response" to the deteriorating global economic conditions, the centrepiece of the plan is $28.8 billion of spending on schools, housing, energy efficiency in homes, community infrastructure and roads, and support to small business to be delivered mostly in 2009-10 and 2010-11.
The remaining third of the plan is an immediate injection of $12.7 billion in one-off bonus payments of $950 each for low- and middle-income households and individuals through five bonuses to be paid in the next few weeks through either the Australian Tax Office or Centrelink.
It means 8.7 million workers earning $100,000 or less will receive a lump sum payment of up to $950 each from April....
About 1.5 million single-income families will also receive the payment, provided they receive Family Tax Benefit Part B, in the fortnight beginning March 11.
The unemployment rate is predicted to rise to 7 per cent by mid-next year, up from 4.5 per cent in December...
Students, business also benefit
The Government will also provide a one-off $950 training and learning bonus for eligible students and people outside of the workforce returning to study to help with the costs of education and training.
The package, which is virtually a mini-budget in all but name, is the second major economic stimulus package announced by the government since the $10.4 billion economic security strategy released in October.
It takes the total amount spent by the government on stimulating the economy since September to $88.7 billion, including bank deposit guarantees, the car industry package, as well as investment in residential-backed mortgage securities, local government, infrastructure projects, and on the states through the Council of Australian Governments (COAG).
The statement said while the nation was in a better position than most other countries to weather the global recession, Australia could no longer "resist the pull of global economic forces".
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Looks like a good package for me; infrastructure, employment and education should be key directives.
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
$950 lump sum payment? Hello next sleeve!
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
$950 lump sum payment? Hello next sleeve!
I am withholding $950 from my taxes if it's going to go to people so they can buy another sport jersey and tattoo.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Thats like 19 cartons of Beer!
Even better - 95 casks of goon!
Even better - 95 casks of goon!
Get off my lawn.
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 12:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I am withholding $950 from my taxes if it's going to go to people so they can buy another sport jersey and tattoo.
cool. I'll let the know ATO
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 1:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
cool. I'll let the know ATO
Couldn't you take that $950 and do a course in hydroponics or something? At least then I could get discount weed for my tax dollars.
Just a thought...
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 1:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
CaitPosts: 2,433
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 1:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
That $950 will be going straight back into the economy from me... Right into wedding fees.
I am going to be in the UK when I get it though.
I am going to be in the UK when I get it though.
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QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 1:34pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Couldn't you take that $950 and do a course in hydroponics or something? At least then I could get discount weed for my tax dollars.
Just a thought...
I'd never do that shit. My body's a temple
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 2:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 2:41pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rob and I are going to go halves in an 8 ball of coke and snort it off strippers back sides.
Kev would be proud!
Kev would be proud!
Get off my lawn.
Rob FrostPosts: 2,683
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 2:45pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rob and I are going to go halves in an 8 ball of coke and snort it off strippers back sides.
Kev would be proud!
Do I get $950?
I am going to put it in war bonds and municipal shares.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 2:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Do I get $950?
I am going to put it in war bonds and municipal shares.
No idea - I'm sure you'll get something though. The rest we can pony up ourselves.
Get off my lawn.
SC1Posts: 6
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 4:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
You could give the guy his own thread.
Has anyone seen the John Safran short film he did on him about 5 years back?
I might try to Rip it & you tube it
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=XbXNuWzcleY
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 4:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Do I get $950?
I am going to put it in war bonds and municipal shares.
includes everyone except those with a property portfolio
looks like we get a cash payment twice! nice...
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 6:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
With this stimulus package, am i correct in saying that my partner & I who earned less than 100k last year, but live as defacto with no kids misses out again? 
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 6:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
With this stimulus package, am i correct in saying that my partner & I who earned less than 100k last year, but live as defacto with no kids misses out again?
No.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 6:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
No.
dont fuck with me... really? *gets hopes up*
From the PM's website:
Key measures funded by today’s Nation Building and Jobs Plan include:
* Free ceiling insulation for around 2.7 million Australian homes
* Build or upgrade a building in every one of Australia’s 9,540 schools
* Build more than 20,000 new social and defence homes
* $950 one off cash payments to eligible families, single workers, students, drought effected farmers and others
* A temporary business investment tax break for small and general businesses buying eligible assets
* Significantly increase funding for local community infrastructure and local road projects
Doesnt say anything about defacto is all...
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Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 6:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
dont fuck with me... really? *gets hopes up*
From the PM's website:
Key measures funded by today’s Nation Building and Jobs Plan include:
* Free ceiling insulation for around 2.7 million Australian homes
* Build or upgrade a building in every one of Australia’s 9,540 schools
* Build more than 20,000 new social and defence homes
* $950 one off cash payments to eligible families, single workers, students, drought effected farmers and others
* A temporary business investment tax break for small and general businesses buying eligible assets
* Significantly increase funding for local community infrastructure and local road projects
Doesnt say anything about defacto is all...
Hmmm... I was sent something quite differently worded than that, unfortunately it resides in my work e-mail account. I will see what I can find out. Apologies if I turn out to be wrong.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
FunkyJPosts: 4,503
Posted: 3 Feb 2009, 7:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I am going to put it in war bonds and municipal shares.
Wow, that's heaps similar to me...
I'm investing in a shotgun and canned goods.
Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 1:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I am withholding $950 from my taxes if it's going to go to people so they can buy another sport jersey and tattoo.
I'm going to buy a Government Bond just so the bastards have to pay me interest on the $950 they gave me. I advise you all do the same. This is your one chance to screw over the Government at their expense!
Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 1:43pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm going to buy a Government Bond just so the bastards have to pay me interest on the $950 they gave me. I advise you all do the same. This is your one chance to screw over the Government at their expense!
:lol:
Erk
Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 3:26pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol it wont be much interest though
Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 10:11amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
lol it wont be much interest though
No it wont be, but it's still the government paying me interest on money they gave me in the first place. It's the principal of the thing :lol:
Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 3:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
interesting...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 3:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
interesting...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
now there's some perspective for the parents out there!!
nice find Anna :thumbsup:
Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 3:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
glad to be of service!
it seems lots of people in the UK are twigging onto the fact the harm minimisation is probably going to work better than zero tolerance.
all the bushfire news is pretty grim, hope the fires die down soon!
it seems lots of people in the UK are twigging onto the fact the harm minimisation is probably going to work better than zero tolerance.
all the bushfire news is pretty grim, hope the fires die down soon!
Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 3:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
interesting...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25024018-23109,00.html
"Professor Nutt's academic work does not prejudice that which he conducts as chair of the ACMD."
Sorry what? Shouldn't it be that his position at the ACMD does not prejudice his academic work? His academic work should absolutely prejudice decisions made at the ACMD, otherwise it was pointless hiring the man. He studies the effects of drugs on people for a living and yet he is not to be informed by the results; I fear logic may be decaying in the wake of the political.
Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 4:44pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
"Prof Nutt added: "This attitude raises the critical question of why society tolerates - indeed encourages - certain forms of potentially harmful behaviour but not others such as drug use."
How awesome is that quote.
Posted: 9 Feb 2009, 10:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Study links smoking cannabis to testicular cancer (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25032892-23109,00.html)
February 09, 2009 10:50pm
YOUNG men who smoke marijuana are more likely to develop an aggressive form of testicular cancer than those who have never tried the drug, a study has found.
The US research was the first to find evidence of a link between cannabis and testicular cancer.
It found smoking the drug at least once a week, or using it regularly from adolescence, doubled the risk of a fast-growing form of the disease called nonseminoma, which tends to strike men in their 20s and 30s.
The study, by scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle and published in the journal Cancer, asked 369 testicular cancer patients if they had a history of marijuana use.
A further 979 healthy men were asked about their use of the drug.
Being an existing cannabis user raised the risk of cancer by 70 per cent, while men who had used the drug regularly from puberty were twice as likely to develop the disease than those who had not used it.
Epidemiologist and study author Stephen Schwartz said: "Our study is not the first to suggest that some aspect of a man's lifestyle or environment is a risk factor for testicular cancer, but it is the first that has looked at marijuana use".
Researchers suggest cannabis may interfere with a man's natural production of a substance thought to protect against tumours.
*gulp*
February 09, 2009 10:50pm
YOUNG men who smoke marijuana are more likely to develop an aggressive form of testicular cancer than those who have never tried the drug, a study has found.
The US research was the first to find evidence of a link between cannabis and testicular cancer.
It found smoking the drug at least once a week, or using it regularly from adolescence, doubled the risk of a fast-growing form of the disease called nonseminoma, which tends to strike men in their 20s and 30s.
The study, by scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle and published in the journal Cancer, asked 369 testicular cancer patients if they had a history of marijuana use.
A further 979 healthy men were asked about their use of the drug.
Being an existing cannabis user raised the risk of cancer by 70 per cent, while men who had used the drug regularly from puberty were twice as likely to develop the disease than those who had not used it.
Epidemiologist and study author Stephen Schwartz said: "Our study is not the first to suggest that some aspect of a man's lifestyle or environment is a risk factor for testicular cancer, but it is the first that has looked at marijuana use".
Researchers suggest cannabis may interfere with a man's natural production of a substance thought to protect against tumours.
*gulp*
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 12:08amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
"Prof Nutt added: "This attitude raises the critical question of why society tolerates - indeed encourages - certain forms of potentially harmful behaviour but not others such as drug use."
How awesome is that quote.
How awesome is that quote.
:lol:
everyone knows pills are shit in the uk though
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 11:36amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Chris Brown charged with reportedly assaulting Rihanna
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25030031-7484,00.html
cant blame him, i think everyone wants to punch her in the face after that umbrella-ella-ella song
:lol:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25030031-7484,00.html
cant blame him, i think everyone wants to punch her in the face after that umbrella-ella-ella song
:lol:
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 11:43amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
For shame, Chris Brown, for shame!!
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 11:47amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Quote
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ Rihanna's injuries were severe -- two "huge contusions" which swelled up on both sides of her forehead
i thought it would have been impossible to make her forehead any bigger, seems i was wrong...
:E
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 11:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i thought it would have been impossible to make her forehead any bigger, seems i was wrong...
:E
:E
:lol:
Posted: 10 Feb 2009, 1:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
At least he did it in public and it's not just a doubtful rumour, so we all know he really is a stupid bastard!
At least he did it in public and it's not just a doubtful rumour, so we all know he really is a stupid bastard!
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 8:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i thought it would have been impossible to make her forehead any bigger, seems i was wrong...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 9:42amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
This was yesterday but my god, some wackos have fire on the brain.
Arsonist blamed for Belair National Park fires
February 10, 2009 04:50pm
TWO fires in Belair National Park today appear to have been deliberately lit - while Victorian police hunt arsonists who caused unimaginable devastation.
Sturt CFS spokesman Mike Pearce told the ABC he believed the Belair fires were caused by arsonists.
"It's worrying that summer is nowhere near over and this area is tinder dry and it is an act of stupidity even today when it is quite cool," he said.
Both fires started on the western side of the Belair National Park at about 12.50pm.
Two fixed-wing water bombers dropped one load of water each.
Together, the fires burnt about half a hectare.
A CFS spokeswoman said fire cause investigators were on scene but it was not yet known what caused the fires.
A police spokesman said police had spoken to people in the area at the time.
Firefighters will monitor the area until nightfall.
Arsonist blamed for Belair National Park fires
February 10, 2009 04:50pm
TWO fires in Belair National Park today appear to have been deliberately lit - while Victorian police hunt arsonists who caused unimaginable devastation.
Sturt CFS spokesman Mike Pearce told the ABC he believed the Belair fires were caused by arsonists.
"It's worrying that summer is nowhere near over and this area is tinder dry and it is an act of stupidity even today when it is quite cool," he said.
Both fires started on the western side of the Belair National Park at about 12.50pm.
Two fixed-wing water bombers dropped one load of water each.
Together, the fires burnt about half a hectare.
A CFS spokeswoman said fire cause investigators were on scene but it was not yet known what caused the fires.
A police spokesman said police had spoken to people in the area at the time.
Firefighters will monitor the area until nightfall.
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 12:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i thought it would have been impossible to make her forehead any bigger, seems i was wrong...
:E
:E
could land an Apache Helicopter on that thing
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/rihanna_portrait.jpg)
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 12:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
It would be impossible to NOT hit that forehead!
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 12:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
It would be impossible to NOT hit that !
agreed!
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 12:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rihanna's dad imo
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u5/thaoworra/worf.jpg)
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 12:35pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
(http://asymptotia.com/wp-images/2008/03/alien_from_the_movie.png)
Umbrella ella ella aaaa aaaa
Umbrella ella ella aaaa aaaa
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 2:31pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Rihanna's dad imo
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u5/thaoworra/worf.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u5/thaoworra/worf.jpg)
Here's a pic of her soulmate
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/248358~James-Van-Der-Beek-Posters.jpg)
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 3:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Here's a pic of her soulmate
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/248358~James-Van-Der-Beek-Posters.jpg)
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/248358~James-Van-Der-Beek-Posters.jpg)
Rob Frost?
Posted: 11 Feb 2009, 3:50pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Salma Hayek breastfeeds African baby
February 11, 2009 03:45pm
HOLLYWOOD star Salma Hayek was so taken aback by the plight of an African woman who was unable to breastfeed her child that the star breastfed the newborn herself.
The incident was captured on camera in Sierra Leone by a television crew from US TV show Nightline who Hayek allowed to accompany her on the goodwill trip in September.
See the Nightline footage here
Nightline have aired the footage on their program and YouTube clips have been circulating the internet, prompting a divisive response from bloggers and parenting websites.
The 42-year-old actress, who was nursing her own daughter Valentina at the time, offered to help when the baby's mother stopped producing milk.
"The baby was perfectly healthy, but the mother didn't have milk. He was very hungry. I was weaning Valentina, but I still had a lot of milk that I was pumping, so I breast-fed the baby.
"You should have seen his eyes. When he felt the nourishment, he immediately stopped crying," said Hayek.
The actress and UNICEF spokesperson visited the West African country in September as part of her involvement in the fight against tetanus, one of the reasons Sierra Leone has the highest infant and child death rate in the world.
Yeah no shit, most guys eyes pop out when Salma unleashes her boobs. :lol:
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 8:59amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Interesting read here..
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126954.500-ecstasys-legacy-so-far-so-good.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126954.500-ecstasys-legacy-so-far-so-good.html
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 10:19amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Salma Hayek breastfeeds African baby
February 11, 2009 03:45pm
HOLLYWOOD star Salma Hayek was so taken aback by the plight of an African woman who was unable to breastfeed her child that the star breastfed the newborn herself.
February 11, 2009 03:45pm
HOLLYWOOD star Salma Hayek was so taken aback by the plight of an African woman who was unable to breastfeed her child that the star breastfed the newborn herself.
geez, thats heaps weird.
logical but really weird and slightly disturbing.
Cait
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 10:50amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I dunno, many cultures use "wet nurses" when the mother is sick, runs out of milk or the baby is with someone else.
I just think she was using it as publicity.
I just think she was using it as publicity.
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 12:10pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yeah it's common, the british did it in the medieval days.
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 3:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Torrens Lake drained by 2 metres after electrical fault in weir...
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25043364-5006301,00.html
I just went down to the Torrens outlet at West Beach... There's a fair stream of water (if it's still classified as that considering how polluted it is) coming out. Funny considering a few days ago I could have literally walked across the dry concrete bed of the outlet, and between Seaview and Tapleys Hill Road there might have been a total of 10 separated pools of water.
Wouldn't want to be swimming anywhere near here at the moment. There's been a Channel 9 news chopper flying around all day and there were Charles Sturt Council guys putting "Avoid Contact" signs up.
The water smells a bit and the council guys said the water is full of blue green algae.
If I went kayaking I wonder if the plastic kayak would burn in the water from the acid/toxins? :E
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25043364-5006301,00.html
I just went down to the Torrens outlet at West Beach... There's a fair stream of water (if it's still classified as that considering how polluted it is) coming out. Funny considering a few days ago I could have literally walked across the dry concrete bed of the outlet, and between Seaview and Tapleys Hill Road there might have been a total of 10 separated pools of water.
Wouldn't want to be swimming anywhere near here at the moment. There's been a Channel 9 news chopper flying around all day and there were Charles Sturt Council guys putting "Avoid Contact" signs up.
The water smells a bit and the council guys said the water is full of blue green algae.
If I went kayaking I wonder if the plastic kayak would burn in the water from the acid/toxins? :E
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 3:21pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Torrens Lake drained by 2 metres after electrical fault in weir...
yeah right, "electrical fault", fcukers "had to" do it otherwise the algae would've polluted the entire lake.If I went kayaking I wonder if the plastic kayak would burn in the water from the acid/toxins? :E
as long as it's not one of these :Ehttp://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=16193
Even then, you'd be spending time cleaning it off the underside of the kayak, gloves and mask style, then you'd have to dispose of the cleaning cloths properly.
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 3:26pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah right, "electrical fault", fcukers "had to" do it otherwise the algae would've polluted the entire lake.
I saw that theory posted elsewhere as well. Does a half empty pool of crap/rubbish really look any better or worse than a lake covered in toxic algae?
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 3:36pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
You'll be surprised how much more toxic algae is (biologically speaking), compared to say, a rusty bike or a supermarket trolley in there.
Next they'll say that blue green algae is more common this time of year and due to the heatwave last week etc.
Water temp affects it yes, but it usually starts with stagnation. rolling stones gather no moss and that.
Proof again that managing the flow is just as important as managing the volume.
Cause there has been little flow, the volume is threatened.
Stormwater needs to be recaptured properly and managed accordingly, if the government actually took the advice of many a research paper that had been done for the past 40 or more years, they might be able to re-structure the water management system a little better.
"oh well", let's just ignore it and hope it "goes away" :E ( sorry, that never works and never will, for anything, take note )
Next they'll say that blue green algae is more common this time of year and due to the heatwave last week etc.
Water temp affects it yes, but it usually starts with stagnation. rolling stones gather no moss and that.
Proof again that managing the flow is just as important as managing the volume.
Cause there has been little flow, the volume is threatened.
Stormwater needs to be recaptured properly and managed accordingly, if the government actually took the advice of many a research paper that had been done for the past 40 or more years, they might be able to re-structure the water management system a little better.
"oh well", let's just ignore it and hope it "goes away" :E ( sorry, that never works and never will, for anything, take note )
Posted: 12 Feb 2009, 3:41pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I don't doubt that it is more dangerous than a rusting bike or whatever else that might have been on the bed of the lake.
My question though is how is it in the councils interest to deliberately allow this to happen? Both the situation we have now, or a lake with water albeit dangerously contaminated are disgusting.
Anyway, I think any "conspiracy theories" about the city council doing this deliberately are a joke. Organisations like that just aren't competent enough to engineer anything like this in secret.
My question though is how is it in the councils interest to deliberately allow this to happen? Both the situation we have now, or a lake with water albeit dangerously contaminated are disgusting.
Anyway, I think any "conspiracy theories" about the city council doing this deliberately are a joke. Organisations like that just aren't competent enough to engineer anything like this in secret.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 9:23amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I find it hard to believe the control system on there didn't have a fail safe in place. Anyway I say turn it into an east-west highway :E
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 10:18amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
No it isn't mate, it's that person's inability to think about what they're doing at the time.
A lapse in concentration.
A lapse in concentration.
Yes, a lapse in concentration which leads to an accident.
Do you know why car accidents are called accidents? Because people aren't concentrating or they make a mistake, which causes an accident. Do you know why aircraft accidents are called accidents? Because something stops working the way it should, which causes an accident.
You can go and quote as many sources as you like, misinterpret everything you read, and type up posts three times longer than the average AM post but it doesn't make you any more convincing. An accident is defined clearly in any dictionary as something unintended with a negative outcome.
Quote
Accidents, in my opinion, occur when everything about said scenario is totally out of human control and implementation.
You are so wrong it isn't even funny. You've taken a word which basically everyone understands and turned it upside down. If something is out of human control we might call it an accident, but we're far more likely to call it an accident if it does involve human control (or rather, lack of it). If there's a flood that's out of human control do we call it an accident? No. We call it a natural disaster. If some idiot bursts a dam or opens a weir because there is a lack of human control (in this case because some incompetent idiots didn't do their job) then it's an accident. I doubt very much that someone intended/wanted the weir to open and drain Torrens Lake.
I can't believe you constantly go and twist any post then write up all kinds of random stuff, most of which has no direct relation to the discussion at hand, and expect to be taken seriously. Please do us all a favour and at least acknowledge the meaning of words in the English language: that'd be a step up for your posts.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 10:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yes, a lapse in concentration which leads to an accident mistake.
the EXACT same KIND of MISTAKE that happens more than once, in this case the weir gate control failing, is lack of responsibility. People can learn from their mistakes, especially ones like that. My mistakes are nowhere near as severe as people make them out to be. I'm trying to learn from my said mistakes that you accuse me of making, by doing what everyone else is doing. Each person are themselves, that is NOT a mistake.
Car and aircraft accidents rarely replicate themselves in exactly the same ways do they ?
If people don't learn from their MISTAKES ( not accidents, mistakes bro, ok!!!!! (yuh "ding-a-ling" :E :shake:) the first time, then if the SAME THING happens AGAIN, it is NOT AN ACCIDENT...
what do you reckon ?
You've taken a word which basically everyone (thinks they understand) and turned it upside down.
fixed If something is out of human control we might call it an accident mistake, but we're far more likely to call it an accident mistake if it does involve human control (or rather, lack of it).
yeah, but because EVERYONE makes mistakes, it's a far better word to use in this case of the weir problem.Nature doesn't make mistakes Oli.
The only reason for this is because nature has existed far longer than ANYTHING else on this planet, or indeed in the universe.
At least acknowledge the meaning of words in the English language
your asking ME to conform to a concept that has no actual authority, forget that.
No-one has a choice of whether they are born into this world or not.
It therefore gives everyone a choice and a right to question pre-ordained language structure and the PRESENT relevance of that language structure AND the way in which it's used to describe things.
My point, still holds consideration
(Sometimes words are "invented" to describe things that they, at the time(back then), didn't have a proper understanding of.)
This is a forum with about , what a few thousand members ?
Statistically, my so called "interpretation" of things around me isn't a "twisted" as you or anyone else may think.
Just becuase i consider things in more than one language, in more than one mid-set and in more than one country, doesn't mean everyone will agree. i KNOW that, it is NOT my intention to "act" this way, this is HOW I AM.... relax.....ok ?
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 10:56amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I shouldn't have even bothered suggesting you acknowledge the meaning of an English word when you can't even type a post in proper English.
I give up. Have fun posting stuff one less person will be reading.
I give up. Have fun posting stuff one less person will be reading.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:08amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Nature doesn't make mistakes Oli.
If that is true then humans never make mistakes as humans are "natural systems" and everything they do is as nature intended. Thus the torrens thing must have been an accident!!!
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:13amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Give up deathmaze.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:19amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
My question though is how is it in the councils interest to deliberately allow this to happen? Both the situation we have now, or a lake with water albeit dangerously contaminated are disgusting.
That's an awesome question mister, i wonder that myself. Prevention rather than cure. No, they'd rather wait until it's too late and then resort to drastic measures to minimise the risk it seems."However, our present inability to forecast the eventual toxicity of developing blooms means that management of algal blooms has to assume the worst case scenario for toxin production. That is, it is assumed that all cells present are highly toxic,when in reality they may not be. This current gap in knowledge may greatly increase the cost of managing algal blooms."
Anyway, I think any "conspiracy theories" about the city council doing this deliberately are a joke. Organisations like that just aren't competent enough to engineer anything like this in secret.
Not necessarily, they know the problem is bound to happen, the fact that there's ambiguous data to confirm or deny the toxicity in the first place, (see the above quote), i think it gives the council a reason to use "plausible deniability" on the situation?"While our knowledge is far from complete, there is now a considerable understanding of the role of eutrophication (nutrient pollution) and river regulation (including effects of water abstraction and of impounding water behind dams and weirs) in the development of blue green algal blooms."
"A number of techniques that reduce stratification are used to inhibit the development of blue green algal blooms. These include maintaining sufficient flow in rivers to reduce stratification, particularly during periods when blue green algae are likely to develop. Water mixing devices such as pumps, paddle wheels and aeration units have been deployed to reduce stratification with various levels of success"
check the rest if you want
http://www.ema.gov.au/agd/EMA/rwpattach.nsf/viewasattachmentpersonal/(C86520E41F5EA5C8AAB6E66B851038D8)~Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf/$file/Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf (http://www.ema.gov.au/agd/EMA/rwpattach.nsf/viewasattachmentpersonal/(C86520E41F5EA5C8AAB6E66B851038D8)~Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf/$file/Blue_green_algal_blooms_a_preventable_emergency.pdf)
It also states that blue-green algae is a natural occurrence in Australian waterways anyway, so it's another excuse, for the councils to treat it as a "see-saw" (flip-flop) attribute, of urban waterway and stormwater management.
There's no conspiracy theories involved.
Sometimes it's difficult for anyone to realise that some people in positions of power, regardless of the knowledge and resources available, or what their staff out there in the field, report back about, just seem to want to twist and warp the data or reports to their own ends, helping no-one understand the overall problem in the process.
Consequently, striving to do nothing and use politics and rhetoric at that, to "talk" their way out of the problem. That and mismanagement in the first place. Proving they are incompetent to act otherwise.
Trust in your instincts sir, this was no "accident". It was a last resort, or a lapse in management and maintenance scheduling.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Trust in your instincts sir, this was no "accident". It was a last resort, or a lapse in management and maintenance scheduling.
What was it if it wasn't an accident? A lapse in management and maintenance scheduling is incompetence and led to an accident. What else are you supposed to call it?
You say There's no conspiracy theories involved. but then you say It was a last resort. Make up your mind.
Anyone who thinks this was some grand secret conspiracy is delusional IMO. A stinking half empty lake full of crap is just as embarrassing as a lake covered in algae to an incompetent council..
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
On the news last night they said there was an alarm that went off after the water dropped to a certain level but no one responded to it for two hours. Sounds like lazy council workers rather than conspiracy theory!
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:56amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
On the news last night they said their was an alarm that went off after the water dropped to a certain level but no one responded to it for two hours. Sounds like lazy council workers rather than conspiracy theory!
That is completely believable. :)
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 11:58amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
read teh link :E
Everything about the weir, the things that control the gates etc, are man-made.
If it's not maintained, checked, serviced and the people responsible aren't "un-lazy" enough to react accordingly, then it is NOT and accident.
Accidents, in my opinion, occur when everything about said scenario is totally out of human control and implementation.
Forgive me for challenging the meaning of the word itself. But "accidents" happen every day for the reasons i stated above.
(If it's not maintained, checked, serviced and the people responsible aren't "un-lazy" enough to react accordingly, then it is NOT and accident.)
Some people, (not directed at anyone here at all, i mean that), need to understand, that when you enforce man-made structures on natural systems, it is their utmost and paramount responsibility, to monitor, maintain and refine everything about those structures.
The word "accident" is a cloak-term, for the concept of incompetence, apathy and ignorance in my opinion.
again, nothing i suggested was a conspiracy, no-one bothered to respond, and i guess no-one also knew that...
"However, our present inability to forecast the eventual toxicity of developing blooms means that management of algal blooms has to assume the worst case scenario for toxin production. That is, it is assumed that all cells present are highly toxic,when in reality they may not be. This current gap in knowledge may greatly increase the cost of managing algal blooms."
I can somewhat guarantee that the lack in response was partly due to this, they didn't make up their minds, as to whether they should reset the circuit breaker on the weir gate, or let it flow because there may have been a chance that...
"... our knowledge is far from complete, there is now a considerable understanding of the role of eutrophication (nutrient pollution) and river regulation (including effects of water abstraction and of impounding water behind dams and weirs) in the development of blue green algal blooms."
:wave:
my mind is made up, they were slack, they been slack for years, straight up.
Everything about the weir, the things that control the gates etc, are man-made.
If it's not maintained, checked, serviced and the people responsible aren't "un-lazy" enough to react accordingly, then it is NOT and accident.
Accidents, in my opinion, occur when everything about said scenario is totally out of human control and implementation.
Forgive me for challenging the meaning of the word itself. But "accidents" happen every day for the reasons i stated above.
(If it's not maintained, checked, serviced and the people responsible aren't "un-lazy" enough to react accordingly, then it is NOT and accident.)
Some people, (not directed at anyone here at all, i mean that), need to understand, that when you enforce man-made structures on natural systems, it is their utmost and paramount responsibility, to monitor, maintain and refine everything about those structures.
The word "accident" is a cloak-term, for the concept of incompetence, apathy and ignorance in my opinion.
again, nothing i suggested was a conspiracy, no-one bothered to respond, and i guess no-one also knew that...
"However, our present inability to forecast the eventual toxicity of developing blooms means that management of algal blooms has to assume the worst case scenario for toxin production. That is, it is assumed that all cells present are highly toxic,when in reality they may not be. This current gap in knowledge may greatly increase the cost of managing algal blooms."
I can somewhat guarantee that the lack in response was partly due to this, they didn't make up their minds, as to whether they should reset the circuit breaker on the weir gate, or let it flow because there may have been a chance that...
"... our knowledge is far from complete, there is now a considerable understanding of the role of eutrophication (nutrient pollution) and river regulation (including effects of water abstraction and of impounding water behind dams and weirs) in the development of blue green algal blooms."
:wave:
my mind is made up, they were slack, they been slack for years, straight up.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 12:07pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Accidents, in my opinion, occur when everything about said scenario is totally out of human control and implementation.
Right ......
So if you trip over because you can't watch where you are going that isn't an accident?
You can think of it as a cloak term if you like, I don't care - any dictionary will show you it isn't though.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 12:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
No it isn't mate, it's that person's inability to think about what they're doing at the time.
A lapse in concentration.
If i trip over, i don't go saying " fucken pavement, why doesn't it watch where it's going !!"
No, i think to myself, " gee bennie, you should concentrate on what your doing, your in control of putting one foot in front of the other, it's your fault/responsibility/problem (etc.) "
Don't get me started on dictionaries.... diction.. is latin for dictate yeah ?, or no... :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary)
"While descriptivists argue that prescriptivism is an unnatural attempt to dictate usage or curtail change, prescriptivists argue that to indiscriminately document "improper" or "inferior" usages sanctions those usages by default and causes language to "deteriorate".
unlearn, challenge, question authority... yeah, i'm causing so much chaos :roll:
Think of how many languages there are in the world, and how many dictionary versions have been "created".
I never just, think about "my" language and the dictionaries that surround it.
Some languages probably don't even have a word for "accident".
Now where getting into cultural, social and emotional differences of the human condition...
( awwwwwwwwww shit....nooooooooo!.....) :E
Sometimes words are "invented" to describe things that they, at the time(back then), didn't have a proper understanding of.
Now that civilization has moved forward ( let's hope so: "Forwards ever, backwards never... yeah? KRS-ONE is a champ!! ).
And science, technology, philosophy, sociology and psychology have evolved, we have a better understanding of ourselves.
I find that certain words will cease to have relevance either now or in the future. People can't keep hiding behind words, hoping that other people will forgive them or have sympathy for them.
It's not my fault, if the people in charge of these waterways, don't have the procedures in place, to gauge a cause-effect, action-consequence, (w)holistic and responsible method, to already diagnosed attributes of natural systems and the man-mad "taming" of them.
They know the waterways system, because countless bright sparks have studied it and continue to update and re-evaluate those studies and data. (bless em :lighter:)
They know what they could have done to prevent it, but lack of foresight, maybe funding and basic acceptance of responsibility along the chain of command, didn't support the waterways they were entrusted to maintain.
They can't call it an "accident" and say that word, when some people were actually "playing dumb" on the whole issue. It's such a childish thing to do.
I also bet that someone further down the chain of command, probably knew and clearly documented a plan on how to go about preventing or managing the waterways.
But didn't get the go-ahead from further up the chain, because of the upper chain incompetence.
That and the person further down, would've probably lost their job, even though they were trying to do the right thing. And they would've been seen as "trying to undermine the authority" of the people further up the chain of command.
*sigh*
( long posts, what to do, what to do... )
A lapse in concentration.
If i trip over, i don't go saying " fucken pavement, why doesn't it watch where it's going !!"
No, i think to myself, " gee bennie, you should concentrate on what your doing, your in control of putting one foot in front of the other, it's your fault/responsibility/problem (etc.) "
Don't get me started on dictionaries.... diction.. is latin for dictate yeah ?, or no... :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary)
"While descriptivists argue that prescriptivism is an unnatural attempt to dictate usage or curtail change, prescriptivists argue that to indiscriminately document "improper" or "inferior" usages sanctions those usages by default and causes language to "deteriorate".
unlearn, challenge, question authority... yeah, i'm causing so much chaos :roll:
Think of how many languages there are in the world, and how many dictionary versions have been "created".
I never just, think about "my" language and the dictionaries that surround it.
Some languages probably don't even have a word for "accident".
Now where getting into cultural, social and emotional differences of the human condition...
( awwwwwwwwww shit....nooooooooo!.....) :E
Sometimes words are "invented" to describe things that they, at the time(back then), didn't have a proper understanding of.
Now that civilization has moved forward ( let's hope so: "Forwards ever, backwards never... yeah? KRS-ONE is a champ!! ).
And science, technology, philosophy, sociology and psychology have evolved, we have a better understanding of ourselves.
I find that certain words will cease to have relevance either now or in the future. People can't keep hiding behind words, hoping that other people will forgive them or have sympathy for them.
It's not my fault, if the people in charge of these waterways, don't have the procedures in place, to gauge a cause-effect, action-consequence, (w)holistic and responsible method, to already diagnosed attributes of natural systems and the man-mad "taming" of them.
They know the waterways system, because countless bright sparks have studied it and continue to update and re-evaluate those studies and data. (bless em :lighter:)
They know what they could have done to prevent it, but lack of foresight, maybe funding and basic acceptance of responsibility along the chain of command, didn't support the waterways they were entrusted to maintain.
They can't call it an "accident" and say that word, when some people were actually "playing dumb" on the whole issue. It's such a childish thing to do.
I also bet that someone further down the chain of command, probably knew and clearly documented a plan on how to go about preventing or managing the waterways.
But didn't get the go-ahead from further up the chain, because of the upper chain incompetence.
That and the person further down, would've probably lost their job, even though they were trying to do the right thing. And they would've been seen as "trying to undermine the authority" of the people further up the chain of command.
*sigh*
( long posts, what to do, what to do... )
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
NEVA :fist:
It's pointless trying to communicate if you refuse to use a language others can understand. Humans advanced through their ability to share knowledge and this cannot happen unless people first agree on common forms of communication. If you're constantly trying to "unlearn" things you will never have the opportunity to learn anything!
That is all.
You mean blindly accept the "meaning" of a word that will be archaic before we die ?, f%$k no...
your asking ME to conform to a concept that has no actual authority, forget that.
your asking ME to conform to a concept that has no actual authority, forget that.
It's pointless trying to communicate if you refuse to use a language others can understand. Humans advanced through their ability to share knowledge and this cannot happen unless people first agree on common forms of communication. If you're constantly trying to "unlearn" things you will never have the opportunity to learn anything!
That is all.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Friendly tip for Mr3rdeye:
When posting you dont need to tab new sentences or have caps/bold/italics/.../epic essays/quoting all over the place.
would be much more readable otherwise
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:26pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I give up.
*yoda's voice* "that, is where you fail... " :funkyj:Have fun posting stuff one less person will be reading.
You say that like it's my "goal" or something, cheap shot mister.
Bye then. :wave:
Make sure that you have fun, conforming to things you don't want to contribute to the improvement of and don't wish to further or fully understand the origin of.
cha :goodvevil:
Nature has evolved over million and millions of years, deathmaze...
Learning and un-learning things that were conceptualised before we existed, and at the same time, is paramount to learning itself.
And we have to "learn" how to learn in the first place too. My "choice" of language and how i "choose" to use it to communicate, really, is not as cryptic as it's made out to be.
We have no idea what nature determines as mistakes or not. But anything that f%$cks with nature on a human level, IS a mistake, in my opinion.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=the+meaning+of+evolution&btnG=Google+Search&meta= (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=the+meaning+of+evolution&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)
My uneducated guess is, that nature developed into what we see today, and will continue to develop as it's a self contained system, that can, sometimes be "toyed" with by it's inhabitants.
The Torrens thing was not a mistake of nature, it was a mistake of humans, that refuse to accept the current limits, boundaries and mechanisms of nature. Which in itself is a mistake, or perhaps an oversight, on behalf of a conscious species, with the ability to CHOOSE.
But because humans have a conscious, we are self aware and should know that we can't blame nature for "our" mistakes.
We as a species, have yet to understand whether nature has it's own conscious or not.
Therefore, trying to attend blame of our ability to make mistakes onto nature ( as nature CAN exist without humans, on this planet, believe it or not ), is in my opinion, deliberately avoiding our own capacity for self-regulation and taking responsibility for our own actions, decisions, thoughts, ideas and motivations.
Thanks for the tips Sal, :wave: thanks for the advice everyone, :wave: i DO actually take it on board, my mind is a sponge.
If anyone can ignore the fact that "i'm an idiot", without emotionally thinking "but, he's an idiot!" and read what i post in the voice of someone you trust, admire or respect, then that will also help you.
I might be considered as "the bad apple" on here. But know that i'm not the only one in the world.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:34pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
my mind is a sponge.
Great analogy. A sponge absorbs water then it slowly drips out or dries out.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:41pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Again, it's your "humanised" conceptual knowledge, because you thought i was talking about man-made sponge, it would only do that in the sun, out of water.
If that sponge is immersed in water, like one's in the sea, and that sea is a metaphorical sea of vast and neverending knowledge, what say you now ?
You would need a huge asteroid to completely vapourise the oceans, only then would my "mind" dry up...
keep going.... c'mon
...consider things as more than just a single entity, and think about the surroundings in which they are encoumpassed. :hehe: :jedi: :lookaround:
oh, and don't let your negative emotions get hold of your intellect.
be better to your good mind Oli.
If that sponge is immersed in water, like one's in the sea, and that sea is a metaphorical sea of vast and neverending knowledge, what say you now ?
You would need a huge asteroid to completely vapourise the oceans, only then would my "mind" dry up...
keep going.... c'mon
...consider things as more than just a single entity, and think about the surroundings in which they are encoumpassed. :hehe: :jedi: :lookaround:
oh, and don't let your negative emotions get hold of your intellect.
be better to your good mind Oli.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:44pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
A joke about a sponge gets a response about metaphorical sea of vast and never ending knowledge, and a huge asteroid being needed to vaporise the oceans.
Classic.
A joke about a sponge gets a response about metaphorical sea of vast and never ending knowledge, and a huge asteroid being needed to vaporise the oceans.
Classic.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:46pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
think about the emotions behind your post Oli, i certainly didn't look like a "joke" to me, it looked like you were more worried or hell-bent on making me look like a goose, than actually visualising the deeper meaning of what i'm saying
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bless his cotton socks.
Long-live your non-conformist ways Benni!
Long-live your non-conformist ways Benni!
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 2:51pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Long live EVERYONE :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: ( but naturally :E ) :lol:
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 3:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
ANYWAY here's some NEWS for anyone who uses the southern express way on the way home or who lives near it..
Fire threatening homes along Adelaide's Southern ExpresswayArticle from: February 13, 2009 03:45pm
A MAJOR fire is threatening homes near the Southern Expressway in the Morphett Vale area.
The fire is burning in grass alongside the expressway near Sheidow Park.
The expressway has just been closed to all traffic.
Platform Avenue in Sheidow Park is being evacuated.
A second fire, also near the expressway along Seacombe Rd at Darlington, was contained by firefighters around 3.40pm.
MFS and CFS crews are in attendance and aerial assistance has been requested.
Backburning is expected to play a role in the operation.
Fire threatening homes along Adelaide's Southern ExpresswayArticle from: February 13, 2009 03:45pm
A MAJOR fire is threatening homes near the Southern Expressway in the Morphett Vale area.
The fire is burning in grass alongside the expressway near Sheidow Park.
The expressway has just been closed to all traffic.
Platform Avenue in Sheidow Park is being evacuated.
A second fire, also near the expressway along Seacombe Rd at Darlington, was contained by firefighters around 3.40pm.
MFS and CFS crews are in attendance and aerial assistance has been requested.
Backburning is expected to play a role in the operation.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 3:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Sounds like it may be arson with this kind of weather today.
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 3:10pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
ANYWAY here's some NEWS for anyone who uses the southern express way on the way home or who lives near it..
Fire threatening homes along Adelaide's Southern ExpresswayArticle from: February 13, 2009 03:45pm
A MAJOR fire is threatening homes near the Southern Expressway in the Morphett Vale area.
The fire is burning in grass alongside the expressway near Sheidow Park.
The expressway has just been closed to all traffic.
Platform Avenue in Sheidow Park is being evacuated.
A second fire, also near the expressway along Seacombe Rd at Darlington, was contained by firefighters around 3.40pm.
MFS and CFS crews are in attendance and aerial assistance has been requested.
Backburning is expected to play a role in the operation.
Fire threatening homes along Adelaide's Southern ExpresswayArticle from: February 13, 2009 03:45pm
A MAJOR fire is threatening homes near the Southern Expressway in the Morphett Vale area.
The fire is burning in grass alongside the expressway near Sheidow Park.
The expressway has just been closed to all traffic.
Platform Avenue in Sheidow Park is being evacuated.
A second fire, also near the expressway along Seacombe Rd at Darlington, was contained by firefighters around 3.40pm.
MFS and CFS crews are in attendance and aerial assistance has been requested.
Backburning is expected to play a role in the operation.
I wonder if it was a mistake
or an accident...
hmmmmmmmm. ? :E :music: :aargh:
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 3:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder if it was a mistake or an accident...
hmmmmmmmm. ? :E :music: :aargh:
hmmmmmmmm. ? :E :music: :aargh:
Nice.... :lol: :clap: :lolslayer:
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 9:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I think that's one of the most pointless arguments I've ever had the pleasure of skimming over.
Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 12:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I find it hard to believe the control system on there didn't have a fail safe in place.
agreed, fukn morons
Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 6:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 8:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Na borrowing a neighbours...
Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 8:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 9:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
ah touche'
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 12:01amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Finally something proactive to help our roads!
SKID-RESISTANT road surfaces are being tested at major Adelaide intersections in a bid to cut rear-end crashes and save lives.
The most successful surface tested to date â an aluminium-based epoxy spray â has reduced braking distances by 40 per cent, or 9m, for the average family car travelling at 60km/h.
Reducing the most common type of collision on SA roads is a key to improving motorist safety, according to the Motor Accident Commission, which is spending $250,000 on the trials across Adelaide.
A total of 6200 rear-end crashes were recorded in 2008, MAC figures show.
Early trial results showed the number of collisions at traffic light intersections could be cut by 530 a year, saving $8.25 million in personal injury compensation payouts annually.
MAC chief Andrew Daniels said trials of three types of anti-skid road treatments started at four of the worst junctions for rear-end crashes last year.
The intersections are: Henley Beach Rd/Holbrooks Rd, at Brooklyn Park; Sturt Rd/Marion Rd, Sturt; Salisbury Hwy/Park Tce/Waterloo Cnr Rd, Salisbury; North East Rd/Sudholz Rd, Gilles Plains.
"We estimate that up to a 25 per cent reduction in crashes could result at these locations," Mr Daniels said.
The future resurfacing of intersections with anti-skid treatments will be funded by the Transport Department or under the Federal Government's Blackspot program, Mr Daniels said.
The two-year trial involves three road treatments â laying a new calcined bauxite epoxy surface over existing bitumen and rejuvenating the existing surface using shot blasting or a rotating disc.
Early trial results showed the epoxy treatment offered the best skid resistance, according to MAC senior asphalt engineer Hugo van Loon.
"The epoxy surface is very angular and provides a greater surface area for tyres to grip than a normal road surface, and it takes longer to wear out than the other treatments," he said.
MAC accident research showed eastern suburbs residents were most likely to crash into the back of another vehicle. Last year, 37 per cent of all collisions in the eastern suburbs were caused by drivers hitting the vehicle in front.
This compared with 34 per cent in the western suburbs, 34 per cent in the north and 33 per cent in the south.
A MAC-commissioned Centre for Automotive Safety Research report on rear-end crashes also revealed:
A THIRD occurs at traffic light-controlled intersections.
OCCUPANTS of the struck vehicle are more likely to be injured than the occupants of the striking vehicle.
RIGHT and left-turning vehicles are frequently struck.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25056371-2682,00.html
SKID-RESISTANT road surfaces are being tested at major Adelaide intersections in a bid to cut rear-end crashes and save lives.
The most successful surface tested to date â an aluminium-based epoxy spray â has reduced braking distances by 40 per cent, or 9m, for the average family car travelling at 60km/h.
Reducing the most common type of collision on SA roads is a key to improving motorist safety, according to the Motor Accident Commission, which is spending $250,000 on the trials across Adelaide.
A total of 6200 rear-end crashes were recorded in 2008, MAC figures show.
Early trial results showed the number of collisions at traffic light intersections could be cut by 530 a year, saving $8.25 million in personal injury compensation payouts annually.
MAC chief Andrew Daniels said trials of three types of anti-skid road treatments started at four of the worst junctions for rear-end crashes last year.
The intersections are: Henley Beach Rd/Holbrooks Rd, at Brooklyn Park; Sturt Rd/Marion Rd, Sturt; Salisbury Hwy/Park Tce/Waterloo Cnr Rd, Salisbury; North East Rd/Sudholz Rd, Gilles Plains.
"We estimate that up to a 25 per cent reduction in crashes could result at these locations," Mr Daniels said.
The future resurfacing of intersections with anti-skid treatments will be funded by the Transport Department or under the Federal Government's Blackspot program, Mr Daniels said.
The two-year trial involves three road treatments â laying a new calcined bauxite epoxy surface over existing bitumen and rejuvenating the existing surface using shot blasting or a rotating disc.
Early trial results showed the epoxy treatment offered the best skid resistance, according to MAC senior asphalt engineer Hugo van Loon.
"The epoxy surface is very angular and provides a greater surface area for tyres to grip than a normal road surface, and it takes longer to wear out than the other treatments," he said.
MAC accident research showed eastern suburbs residents were most likely to crash into the back of another vehicle. Last year, 37 per cent of all collisions in the eastern suburbs were caused by drivers hitting the vehicle in front.
This compared with 34 per cent in the western suburbs, 34 per cent in the north and 33 per cent in the south.
A MAC-commissioned Centre for Automotive Safety Research report on rear-end crashes also revealed:
A THIRD occurs at traffic light-controlled intersections.
OCCUPANTS of the struck vehicle are more likely to be injured than the occupants of the striking vehicle.
RIGHT and left-turning vehicles are frequently struck.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25056371-2682,00.html
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 12:28amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I decided to test the Sturt/Marion one out. Works pretty well.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 12:41amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
SKID-RESISTANT road surfaces are being tested at major Adelaide intersections in a bid to cut rear-end crashes and save lives.
They should tighten the defection rules so that there are no cars on the road without ABS then this wouldn't be so important in the first place.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 8:20amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
They should tighten the defection rules so that there are no cars on the road without ABS then this wouldn't be so important in the first place.
No not at all.
If all drivers were required to PHYSICALLY perform a threshold stop in training then dickhead proof brakeing systems would become obsolete.
When was the last time you heard of a race car driver out brake them self on the road?
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 10:40amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
What? ABS won't become obsolete because it allows people to keep traction while braking heavily. It's a safety feature built into any new car and cars that don't have it (along with many other safety features) should be off the roads as soon as possible. I have no idea why you'd call it "dickhead proof braking systems".
What's a threshold stop?
What have race car drivers got to do with it? Don't say that every driver needs to be trained to their level otherwise there'd be nobody on the road.
What's a threshold stop?
What have race car drivers got to do with it? Don't say that every driver needs to be trained to their level otherwise there'd be nobody on the road.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 4:35pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Most people have more training in football than how to drive a car.
Cant see a problem with that Oli?
It is very alarming that once you have a license you do not have to resit any testing at all to keep it. Im not saying we need to train drivers to race level but some simple skills are required to control a vehicle & sadly many are not taught to new drivers.
Yes safety features like ABS are hear to stay & that's a given. But a computer will never be a complete replacement for a decent driver
Cant see a problem with that Oli?
It is very alarming that once you have a license you do not have to resit any testing at all to keep it. Im not saying we need to train drivers to race level but some simple skills are required to control a vehicle & sadly many are not taught to new drivers.
Yes safety features like ABS are hear to stay & that's a given. But a computer will never be a complete replacement for a decent driver
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 4:46pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
As someone who knows nothing about football I will disregard that comment, but I agree that many skills that should be required aren't taught to drivers, and that drivers here generally don't really value their license. You're right that any safety features can't compensate for a poorly trained driver. I definitely agree with that.
South Australia's (probably the same interstate) licensing system is pathetic. That much is sure as well and judging by your comment you believe the same.
My point was about ABS stands though, regardless of the road surface or driver training ABS won't become obsolete. Your response to my post suggested otherwise.
The Advertiser and SA Police can jump up and scream about how their visible campaigns are reducing the road toll each year, but my guess is that the increasing number of newer and safer vehicles on the road each year have more to do with it.
South Australia's (probably the same interstate) licensing system is pathetic. That much is sure as well and judging by your comment you believe the same.
My point was about ABS stands though, regardless of the road surface or driver training ABS won't become obsolete. Your response to my post suggested otherwise.
The Advertiser and SA Police can jump up and scream about how their visible campaigns are reducing the road toll each year, but my guess is that the increasing number of newer and safer vehicles on the road each year have more to do with it.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 7:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
What? ABS won't become obsolete because it allows people to keep traction while braking heavily. It's a safety feature built into any new car and cars that don't have it (along with many other safety features) should be off the roads as soon as possible. I have no idea why you'd call it "dickhead proof braking systems".
ABS has only been common on cars in the last 10 years. Anyway, if people don't maintain their cars for instance they might have bald tyres and stuffed brake disks.. ABS won't make a difference there (you'd be surprised how many people couldnt give a shit about their car). I'd rather take a well maintained car without ABS than one that's falling apart with ABS.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 8:20pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
ABS has only been common on cars in the last 10 years. Anyway, if people don't maintain their cars for instance they might have bald tyres and stuffed brake disks.. ABS won't make a difference there (you'd be surprised how many people couldnt give a shit about their car). I'd rather take a well maintained car without ABS than one that's falling apart with ABS.
Yes, my comment about defecting vehicles was not directed at cars without ABS only. I don't know why you'd imply that it was. I am aware that bald tyres and other problems with vehicles make them unsafe as well, that is obvious.
Vehicles which are poorly maintained should also be defected. If there was a genuine effort to reduce the number of older relatively unsafe cars (due to a lack of safety features) on the road and tighter controls on vehicle maintenance then the roads would be less unsafe. I am sure we all know this.
If our restrictions were anywhere near as tight as those in many Western European countries I think a significant proportion of cars on the road in South Australia would be defected immediately.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 9:03pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
This shits fucked up
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Baby-faced boy Alfie Patten is father at 13: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLeMV1QYM6g
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Baby-faced boy Alfie Patten is father at 13: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLeMV1QYM6g
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 9:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
thats fucken weird
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 9:49pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
A couple of other boys have put their hand up claiming it could be theirs.
Gotta love a chick who has realised at such a young age just how ugly she actually is and that offering easy access between her legs is all she really has to offer this world.
Gotta love a chick who has realised at such a young age just how ugly she actually is and that offering easy access between her legs is all she really has to offer this world.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 10:09pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
A couple of other boys have put their hand up claiming it could be theirs.
Are you serious?
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 10:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
She loves the cock!
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 11:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
at his age there wouldn't be much cock to love.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 11:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
When you love it as much as she obviously does, size & experience isn't important.
Can hardly imagine the boy giving her the wall ripping smash session she would be hoping for though.
Can hardly imagine the boy giving her the wall ripping smash session she would be hoping for though.
Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 11:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
If she gave her the wall ripping smash session he'd probably be dead.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 5:06amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The girl's parents were on welfare, the dad of the boy was too and had fostered nine kids - and all of them live in council housing.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 6:46amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
go england!!
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 9:24amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Are you serious?
Both of the main kids saying it might be theirs have also said it could possibly be any of their friends too...
Guess she's like the town bike with training wheels.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 10:50amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder why there was never an up-roar over girls having babies @ 12 or 13 as opposed to a 13 year old fathering a child?
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 10:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
happens so often nobody cares anymore probably...
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 10:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
Yeah, girls started dropping out of school pregnant in year 8 at my school.
Yeah, girls started dropping out of school pregnant in year 8 at my school.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 11:06amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I have no idea why you'd call it "dickhead proof braking systems".
Because that's what it is :lol: Quite a few tests I've read in motoring mags have shown if you know what you're doing, you can stop a car in a shorter distance without ABS than with it.
I'm with Catastrophic here, what we really need is to make it far, far, far harder to actually obtain a license and far more traning needs to be done with Learners before they are let loose on the road. In places like Finland, every driver is taken out on skid pans etc... as part of their basic driver training. Here they can be taught things like how to control a sliding car, how to swerve to avoid objects at high speed etc... You can't safety proof everything, and I believe everybody should be trained to know what to do in a car if it does go pear shaped.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 11:46amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Because that's what it is :lol: Quite a few tests I've read in motoring mags have shown if you know what you're doing, you can stop a car in a shorter distance without ABS than with it.
Countries with much stricter licensing/training requirements also have stricter controls on vehicle safety. The two aren't mutually exclusive. It's not a coincidence that the countries which produce the safety vehicles are the countries with the tightest training programs (and those with weather conditions which make driving more dangerous). The two go hand in hand to help reduce the risk of accidents, or the risk of injury if there is an accident.
I'm not disagreeing with anyone about how we need tighter licensing rules. I completely agree with what you've said about needing tighter rules.
Even with better driver training, people can still make mistakes. Even with better safety features, people can still make mistakes. You said it yourself that you can't safety proof everything.
If you and catastrophic are suggesting we train everyone to a level which makes all modern safety features (or even just ABS) on vehicles redundant/unnecessary then I completely disagree.
I don't really care what some rev-head motoring magazine says. If the motoring industry is bringing a safety feature in as standard and the countries with the tightest rules about vehicles are doing their best to get vehicles off the road which don't have safety features like ABS then I'd consider their position more independent and valued than some magazine article which is probably written by someone who has been driving/racing professionally for decades.
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I'm with Catastrophic here, what we really need is to make it far, far, far harder to actually obtain a license and far more traning needs to be done with Learners before they are let loose on the road.
I agree, but I'd go a step further and say we need to get more shitty old or poorly maintained vehicles off the road at the same time; an equal amount of effort should be put into these things.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 11:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder why there was never an up-roar over girls having babies @ 12 or 13 as opposed to a 13 year old fathering a child?
Nobody really gives a stuff about those slappers.
I think the main reason this case made the papers is because the boy looks so young, even for a 13 year old. Made for a good photo to chuck on the front page and sell a few extra issues.
Cait
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 12:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Nobody really gives a stuff about those slappers.
I think the main reason this case made the papers is because the boy looks so young, even for a 13 year old. Made for a good photo to chuck on the front page and sell a few extra issues.
The girl looks double his size. He looks like he's 6! I think the main reason this case made the papers is because the boy looks so young, even for a 13 year old. Made for a good photo to chuck on the front page and sell a few extra issues.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 7:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm with Catastrophic here, what we really need is to make it far, far, far harder to actually obtain a license and far more traning needs to be done with Learners before they are let loose on the road. In places like Finland, every driver is taken out on skid pans etc... as part of their basic driver training. Here they can be taught things like how to control a sliding car, how to swerve to avoid objects at high speed etc... You can't safety proof everything, and I believe everybody should be trained to know what to do in a car if it does go pear shaped.
Would that save any lives though? At most it may prevent 10 fatalities a year which is sweet fuck all or the amount of time & money implementing such a plan would take.
The majority of fatal accidents are caused by 2 things - alcohol & reckless driving. Making young drivers do such training won't change this. It may prevent a few bingles and rear end crashes and what not but I just can't see how it would lower the road toll in any way.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline. Our roads are full of kids driving cars with a fair chunk of power but rubbish handling - it's a recipe for disaster. It seems that every second fatality seems to be a teenage driver on a country road where speed was the main cause. I don't know what can be done to change this but imo if you get young drivers out of such vehicles the road toll will reduce.
Doesn't Japan have some law where you have to update your car every few years or something?
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 8:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Completely agree with Noddy here (is that a first?). Less idiot youngsters would be the first step to reducing deaths on roads.
I don't know what the case is in Japan, but in Germany they have a TÃV which is basically a mandatory inspection of vehicles (and lots of other things as well) to ensure they're road worthy. It essentially results it in being so hard to keep old vehicles on the road since they don't pass the tests that it's cheaper to buy a new car than keep an old one. As a result there are far less old cars on the road.
From wikipedia:
Those points in bold are what we need here.
I don't know what the case is in Japan, but in Germany they have a TÃV which is basically a mandatory inspection of vehicles (and lots of other things as well) to ensure they're road worthy. It essentially results it in being so hard to keep old vehicles on the road since they don't pass the tests that it's cheaper to buy a new car than keep an old one. As a result there are far less old cars on the road.
From wikipedia:
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No German-registered road vehicle may be operated on public roads without a certificate from the TÃVs or DEKRA, one of their competitors, or - since a couple of years - also independent inspectors may grant this certification. In most cases the certificate has to be renewed after two years.
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Most vehicle modifications also need to be approved, from installing tires of a different size to materials used in nuts and bolts. The German safety guidelines are among the strictest in the world, and getting a road permit for thoroughly customized vehicles is said to border on the impossible.
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Most vehicle modifications also need to be approved, from installing tires of a different size to materials used in nuts and bolts. The German safety guidelines are among the strictest in the world, and getting a road permit for thoroughly customized vehicles is said to border on the impossible.
Those points in bold are what we need here.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 8:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The majority of fatal accidents are caused by 2 things - alcohol & reckless driving. Making young drivers do such training won't change this. It may prevent a few bingles and rear end crashes and what not but I just can't see how it would lower the road toll in any way.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline.
true
but just the same though, if you make having a drivers licence more like a privilege than a right, people might actually respect it more and not risk losing it. power to weight ratio limits for people under 25 wouldnt hurt either (similar to restrictions on motorbike engine sizes)
there are clearly way too many fuckwits on the road these days. maybe less drunk drivers, but eclipsed by the number of tools driving fast cars like wankers. its no wonder parents seem more scared to let their kids walk out on the streets and to the park etc these days.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 8:28pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I don't think it helps either that so many young car owners will gladly spend a grand on an exhaust system but neglect things like tyres & suspension.
The number of young kids here in the valley who have died in accidents in the past few years is staggering. And more often than not it was a Japanese import they were driving. There is a reason these imports are so fucking cheap - they are banned from Japanese roads so they ship them over here for next to nothing. Too old and outdated to be driven on one countries roads - given to the most inexperienced drivers in another.
The number of young kids here in the valley who have died in accidents in the past few years is staggering. And more often than not it was a Japanese import they were driving. There is a reason these imports are so fucking cheap - they are banned from Japanese roads so they ship them over here for next to nothing. Too old and outdated to be driven on one countries roads - given to the most inexperienced drivers in another.
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 9:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
people might actually respect it more and not risk losing it.
That part is easy. Make it cost 10x more to get, AND put in place the restrictions already discussed. :)
Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 10:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I know in NSW, after a car becomes a certain age it must pass through a motor reg check every year (or something similar). Personally, I was surprised this wasn't so when I moved here.
Totally agree. I'm glad my parents didn't let me get a big V8 when I was looking for my first car... if they did I prob wouldn't be around today.
When I did finally get around to purchasing a car that I could get into trouble in, the first thing I did was put new suspension and brakes on. And the improvements were mind blowing!!!
Secondhand Jap cars are exported so much because they have very strict emission laws. So basically when a car becomes a certain age the registration and so on increases at a phenomenal rate. Making it impossible to keep old cars on the road. Classic rotors and Skylines for example are so valuable over there because they were all destroyed or exported.
Problems
power to weight ratio limits for people under 25 wouldnt hurt either (similar to restrictions on motorbike engine sizes)
Totally agree. I'm glad my parents didn't let me get a big V8 when I was looking for my first car... if they did I prob wouldn't be around today.
It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline. Our roads are full of kids driving cars with a fair chunk of power but rubbish handling - it's a recipe for disaster.
When I did finally get around to purchasing a car that I could get into trouble in, the first thing I did was put new suspension and brakes on. And the improvements were mind blowing!!!
Doesn't Japan have some law where you have to update your car every few years or something?
Secondhand Jap cars are exported so much because they have very strict emission laws. So basically when a car becomes a certain age the registration and so on increases at a phenomenal rate. Making it impossible to keep old cars on the road. Classic rotors and Skylines for example are so valuable over there because they were all destroyed or exported.
Problems
- Introducing age/power limits will severely shake up an already hurting car industry
- Mass amounts of people can't afford to buy 'new' cars every couple of years
- Lack of suitable public transport system to support those who can't afford 'new' cars
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:23amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Would that save any lives though? At most it may prevent 10 fatalities a year which is sweet fuck all or the amount of time & money implementing such a plan would take.
The majority of fatal accidents are caused by 2 things - alcohol & reckless driving. Making young drivers do such training won't change this. It may prevent a few bingles and rear end crashes and what not but I just can't see how it would lower the road toll in any way.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline. Our roads are full of kids driving cars with a fair chunk of power but rubbish handling - it's a recipe for disaster. It seems that every second fatality seems to be a teenage driver on a country road where speed was the main cause. I don't know what can be done to change this but imo if you get young drivers out of such vehicles the road toll will reduce.
Doesn't Japan have some law where you have to update your car every few years or something?
The majority of fatal accidents are caused by 2 things - alcohol & reckless driving. Making young drivers do such training won't change this. It may prevent a few bingles and rear end crashes and what not but I just can't see how it would lower the road toll in any way.
Unfortunately there are still so many young drivers losing their lives on our roads and it is nearly always their stupidity that costs lives - not lack of training or experience. Just kids being dickheads. It also doesn't help that every second P plater is driving an oldish Commonwhore or some early 90's Sylvia or Skyline. Our roads are full of kids driving cars with a fair chunk of power but rubbish handling - it's a recipe for disaster. It seems that every second fatality seems to be a teenage driver on a country road where speed was the main cause. I don't know what can be done to change this but imo if you get young drivers out of such vehicles the road toll will reduce.
Doesn't Japan have some law where you have to update your car every few years or something?
It may not, however if said kids know what is going to happen if he/she tries something stupid (because he has tried it in controlled conditions before and seen what resulted) it may be enough of a deterrent to try it on public roads.
Completely agree with you on the Old Jap car point though. We need power to weight restrictions for P platers for sure. Just having a power cut off point is ridiculous, as it may prevent a kid from driving a Commodore whilst they can jump straight into the drivers seat of a Lotus. :lol:
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:34amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i heard on the news last night that they want to increase the age you can get your L's to 19..
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:42amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i heard on the news last night that they want to increase the age you can get your L's to 19..
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
A bit more mature though, maybe likely to make better decisions.
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:45amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
A bit more mature though, maybe likely to make better decisions.
i question that purely on the state I've seen people on this very board drive in
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:46amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i heard on the news last night that they want to increase the age you can get your L's to 19..
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
there's light years more maturity in a 19 year old compared to a 16 year old... and bigger steps up again to 25 etc.
too many times when i was 16/17, shitscared, stuck in the backseat of someones car who's driving 70km/h through roundabouts.
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i question that purely on the state I've seen people on this very board drive in
:lol:
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:55amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i question that purely on the state I've seen people on this very board drive in
So true.
Being one of the only sensible ones in our group of friends I notice it even more.
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 10:55amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
Erk
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 11:43amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i question that purely on the state I've seen people on this very board drive in
:lol:
Well maybe if half the board got their licence then the other half wouldnt have to drive them round in that state! :E
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 11:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i heard on the news last night that they want to increase the age you can get your L's to 19..
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
i don't really see how that's going to help anything, they're still going to be inexperienced drivers, just older.
really? i soooo hope they do. have been hoping that for a long time.
i'm 22 and i only just got my P's in december. didnt feel ready or capable of handling the responsibilty when i was 19 let alone friggin 16.
when your 16 i just dont think driving is a responsibilty you should have, for so many reasons.
no matter how old you are when you start, yes you will be an inexperienced driver but you (hopefully) will have grown up a bit, gained some maturity and life experience that will help you make better decisions on the road when you have your, your passengers and other road users safety to think about.
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 11:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cruel Facebook hoax ends marriage
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5325538/cruel-facebook-hoax-ends-marriage/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5325538/cruel-facebook-hoax-ends-marriage/)
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5325538/cruel-facebook-hoax-ends-marriage/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5325538/cruel-facebook-hoax-ends-marriage/)
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A married man who drove more than 600km to see a woman he met on Facebook has been the victim of a hoax by rival football supporters.
Manchester United fan, Stuart Slann, spent nine hours in his car travelling to meet "Emma", who he had been sharing suggestive emails with.
Believing he was about to enjoy their first night of romance together, Stuart, 39, finally arrived at a remote Scottish farm where he waited for the encounter.
After three hours sitting in his car with "Emma" nowhere in sight, a phone call soon revealed the cruel hoax.
He was surprised to hear the voice of a man with a Liverpool accent.
"Hello Stuart, do you remember us?," they asked.
"It's them Scouse lads who threw you in the pool, you've been framed."
Last year he fell out with the two Liverpool supporters who were staying in the same holiday hotel in Mexico .
They argued about whose football team was better: Manchester United or Liverpool.
To add to the elaborate hoax the men put a recorded phone conversation between them and Stuart on the internet.
It resulted in Stuart's wife Louise finding out about his potential fling on Facebook and she later left him.
Manchester United fan, Stuart Slann, spent nine hours in his car travelling to meet "Emma", who he had been sharing suggestive emails with.
Believing he was about to enjoy their first night of romance together, Stuart, 39, finally arrived at a remote Scottish farm where he waited for the encounter.
After three hours sitting in his car with "Emma" nowhere in sight, a phone call soon revealed the cruel hoax.
He was surprised to hear the voice of a man with a Liverpool accent.
"Hello Stuart, do you remember us?," they asked.
"It's them Scouse lads who threw you in the pool, you've been framed."
Last year he fell out with the two Liverpool supporters who were staying in the same holiday hotel in Mexico .
They argued about whose football team was better: Manchester United or Liverpool.
To add to the elaborate hoax the men put a recorded phone conversation between them and Stuart on the internet.
It resulted in Stuart's wife Louise finding out about his potential fling on Facebook and she later left him.
Erk
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 12:44pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That is hilarious.
He drives nine hours, gets stood up, discovers he was tricked, publicly humilated and then finally dumped.
lol
He drives nine hours, gets stood up, discovers he was tricked, publicly humilated and then finally dumped.
lol
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 1:10pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
harsh lol
Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 1:15pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not harsh at all, deserved and hilarious!!!
Posted: 18 Feb 2009, 12:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's what he gets for supporting Man U :lol:
Posted: 18 Feb 2009, 3:34pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's what he gets for supporting Man U :lol:
Exactly! Dirty scumbag.
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 6:22amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Advertisers cash in on redhead appeal
WE are ridiculed for our fair skin, freckles and fiery hair, referred to as "rangas" and "bloodnuts" and could be extinct in 100 years.
But advertisers are cashing in on the once unthinkable appeal of redheads.
SA Great, AAMI, Telstra and Coopers are among the big-name firms to use "ranga" â short for orangutan â models and actors in campaigns.
Mostly Kids Model Agency and Academy owner Liz Philippou said consumers were led to believe redheads depict "certain individuality, fiery temper traits, sharp tongues, determination and mischievousness".
"When an advertising campaign features a redheaded child, it sends a message of that same determination," she said.
"(It) catches the eye and holds you, pondering the possibility of the redhead being an absolute little devil, and then considering the product they're associated with."
Piper Films director Corey Piper, who produced the SA Great advertisement featuring an impish carrot-topped boy and encouraging people to buy locally, said the child was cast purely on talent.
"They were strongly debating between him and a blonde kid," he said.
"But in saying that, blondes and brunettes tend to blend into the background because usually backgrounds are either a light or a dark colour."
kwp! Advertising partner Andrew Killey said the acceptance of flame-haired and strawberry blonde Hollywood stars, such as Nicole Kidman and Julieanne Moore, had prompted the advertising industry to follow suit.
"It's now seen as beautiful and glamorous," he said.
In September, Adelaide Zoo dropped a campaign offering free entry to carrot-tops to highlight the plight of orangutans after a negative response.
National Geographic magazine reported last year that redheads â less than 2 per cent of the world's population â could be extinct in a century.
Global intermingling has reduced the chance of them marrying and producing their own bloodnuts.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25075918-5006301,00.html
WE are ridiculed for our fair skin, freckles and fiery hair, referred to as "rangas" and "bloodnuts" and could be extinct in 100 years.
But advertisers are cashing in on the once unthinkable appeal of redheads.
SA Great, AAMI, Telstra and Coopers are among the big-name firms to use "ranga" â short for orangutan â models and actors in campaigns.
Mostly Kids Model Agency and Academy owner Liz Philippou said consumers were led to believe redheads depict "certain individuality, fiery temper traits, sharp tongues, determination and mischievousness".
"When an advertising campaign features a redheaded child, it sends a message of that same determination," she said.
"(It) catches the eye and holds you, pondering the possibility of the redhead being an absolute little devil, and then considering the product they're associated with."
Piper Films director Corey Piper, who produced the SA Great advertisement featuring an impish carrot-topped boy and encouraging people to buy locally, said the child was cast purely on talent.
"They were strongly debating between him and a blonde kid," he said.
"But in saying that, blondes and brunettes tend to blend into the background because usually backgrounds are either a light or a dark colour."
kwp! Advertising partner Andrew Killey said the acceptance of flame-haired and strawberry blonde Hollywood stars, such as Nicole Kidman and Julieanne Moore, had prompted the advertising industry to follow suit.
"It's now seen as beautiful and glamorous," he said.
In September, Adelaide Zoo dropped a campaign offering free entry to carrot-tops to highlight the plight of orangutans after a negative response.
National Geographic magazine reported last year that redheads â less than 2 per cent of the world's population â could be extinct in a century.
Global intermingling has reduced the chance of them marrying and producing their own bloodnuts.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25075918-5006301,00.html
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 9:35amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:khemslay:
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 10:59amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
wonder if any "plus size ranga" models are needed
now there's a title
now there's a title
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 2:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
You should get some cards made up.
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 2:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
*taps nose*
Posted: 19 Feb 2009, 3:28pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
How fucking dumb do you have to be??? :lol:
Man has electronic tag fitted to false leg
Bret Ravenhill, 29, was given the tag to ensure he obeyed a curfew after being convicted for the possession of cannabis.
He said a Group 4 security worker failed to notice that his left leg was made of metal and detachable.
Ravenhill, a forklift truck driver who lost the leg in a motorcycle crash six years ago, told The Sun: "Two friends were at my house when she came round and were killing themselves laughing.
"I thought she would realise straight away - but she never bothered to turn up my trouser leg or look underneath my sock. I just left things as they were for a joke."
Ravenhill was given probation by a judge but barred from going out at night for three months.
Despite security workers checking his tag every four weeks, none noticed it was attached to the metal leg.
He said: "I didn't break my curfew once - but I could have been out living it up every night. I'm no danger to the public - but what if they'd done the same thing to an armed robber?"
David Hanson, the justice minister, told the newspaper: "I am very concerned."
A spokesman for Group 4 added: "It would appear that in this instance the procedure has not been followed."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/4608865/Man-has-electronic-tag-fitted-to-false-leg.html
Personally I think if you've got a false leg you should be able to take what you bloody well want!
Man has electronic tag fitted to false leg
Bret Ravenhill, 29, was given the tag to ensure he obeyed a curfew after being convicted for the possession of cannabis.
He said a Group 4 security worker failed to notice that his left leg was made of metal and detachable.
Ravenhill, a forklift truck driver who lost the leg in a motorcycle crash six years ago, told The Sun: "Two friends were at my house when she came round and were killing themselves laughing.
"I thought she would realise straight away - but she never bothered to turn up my trouser leg or look underneath my sock. I just left things as they were for a joke."
Ravenhill was given probation by a judge but barred from going out at night for three months.
Despite security workers checking his tag every four weeks, none noticed it was attached to the metal leg.
He said: "I didn't break my curfew once - but I could have been out living it up every night. I'm no danger to the public - but what if they'd done the same thing to an armed robber?"
David Hanson, the justice minister, told the newspaper: "I am very concerned."
A spokesman for Group 4 added: "It would appear that in this instance the procedure has not been followed."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/4608865/Man-has-electronic-tag-fitted-to-false-leg.html
Personally I think if you've got a false leg you should be able to take what you bloody well want!
Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 9:47amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
You should get some cards made up.
That would be beyond awesome.
Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 11:43amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
OUCH!
Chair Kills Boy by Anal Penetration
A fourteen-year-old boy was killed after the chair he was sitting on exploded, propelling sharp chair parts into his rectum, causing extensive bleeding, which he succumbed to before medical attention could stem the flow.
The accident occurred when the boy was alone, sitting on the chair (which was for PC use); he managed to overcome the pain and call his father, who summoned an ambulance, but it took an hour to get him to hospital, by which time it was too late for him.
The chair in question was a standard gas cylinder type, where the height is regulated by an adjustable cylinder containing highly pressurised gas, and it was this which exploded, sending high velocity chair parts into the posterior of the unfortunate youth.
In fact, it seems a spate of such incidents were reported at the hospital â 3 such injuries caused by exploding chairs were reported this month, perhaps indicating an influx of poorly manufactured chairs into the area. In 2007 a similar accident also propelled a 20cm part into the rear of a 68-year-old man, who suffered a severe 5cm wound; he survived.
The illustrated chair shows the severity of such a cylinder malfunction.
We do not hear where the chair parts in question were made, though of course with the accident occurring in China it is likely there that they were made.
Three factors are implicated in such accidents:
1. The gas in the cylinder is contaminated with gases other than nitrogen.
2. The materials used in the cylinder are deficient, reducing the durability of the part.
3. The cylinder is not completely airtight.
Oil based hydraulic devices are said to be safer, but most such chairs on the market today use gas cylinders; naturally these tend to be made in China, where this accident occurred.
The boy in question weighed 80kg (certainly a fair amount for a 14-year-old Asian youth), which might have been a factor (though this will not reassure heavier framed non-Asian adults); it is suggested that using such chairs without placing excessive pressure on the cylinder is advisable â otherwise sitting on a steel plate might help.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/02/20/chair-kills-boy-by-anal-penetration/
Chair Kills Boy by Anal Penetration
A fourteen-year-old boy was killed after the chair he was sitting on exploded, propelling sharp chair parts into his rectum, causing extensive bleeding, which he succumbed to before medical attention could stem the flow.
The accident occurred when the boy was alone, sitting on the chair (which was for PC use); he managed to overcome the pain and call his father, who summoned an ambulance, but it took an hour to get him to hospital, by which time it was too late for him.
The chair in question was a standard gas cylinder type, where the height is regulated by an adjustable cylinder containing highly pressurised gas, and it was this which exploded, sending high velocity chair parts into the posterior of the unfortunate youth.
In fact, it seems a spate of such incidents were reported at the hospital â 3 such injuries caused by exploding chairs were reported this month, perhaps indicating an influx of poorly manufactured chairs into the area. In 2007 a similar accident also propelled a 20cm part into the rear of a 68-year-old man, who suffered a severe 5cm wound; he survived.
The illustrated chair shows the severity of such a cylinder malfunction.
We do not hear where the chair parts in question were made, though of course with the accident occurring in China it is likely there that they were made.
Three factors are implicated in such accidents:
1. The gas in the cylinder is contaminated with gases other than nitrogen.
2. The materials used in the cylinder are deficient, reducing the durability of the part.
3. The cylinder is not completely airtight.
Oil based hydraulic devices are said to be safer, but most such chairs on the market today use gas cylinders; naturally these tend to be made in China, where this accident occurred.
The boy in question weighed 80kg (certainly a fair amount for a 14-year-old Asian youth), which might have been a factor (though this will not reassure heavier framed non-Asian adults); it is suggested that using such chairs without placing excessive pressure on the cylinder is advisable â otherwise sitting on a steel plate might help.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/02/20/chair-kills-boy-by-anal-penetration/
Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 8:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
and the moral of the story?
if he was off the computer and outside getting fresh air, not only would he be alive, but probably wouldve weighed a lot less than 80kg @ 14
gaming = health hazard :E
cripes though, grim way to go...
if he was off the computer and outside getting fresh air, not only would he be alive, but probably wouldve weighed a lot less than 80kg @ 14
gaming = health hazard :E
cripes though, grim way to go...
Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 10:19amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
OMFG!
As if the Liberals weren't already getting the shit kicked out of them, along comes this story...
http://www.smh.com.au/national/libs-link-to-mafia-visa-inquiry-20090222-8er5.html
As if the Liberals weren't already getting the shit kicked out of them, along comes this story...
http://www.smh.com.au/national/libs-link-to-mafia-visa-inquiry-20090222-8er5.html
Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 11:53amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: awesome
ha - she can now funnel more of them in direct!
no wonder they upped the minimum political donation disclosure amount to $10k...
Quote
Ms Vanstone, now Australia's ambassador to Italy, said she had no knowledge of any police investigation of the donations.
ha - she can now funnel more of them in direct!
no wonder they upped the minimum political donation disclosure amount to $10k...
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 1:08amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Notorious Greek prisoner Vassilis Palaiokostas escapes by helicopter - again
By Angeliki Koutantou in Athens
Reuters
February 23, 2009 08:04am
GREECE'S most notorious prisoner escaped from an Athens jail yesterday in a Hollywood-style helicopter getaway - for a second time.
Vassilis Palaiokostas, 44, had escaped from the maximum security prison in 2006 in an operation involving helicopters and fast cars.
He was arrested again last summer for allegedly organising the kidnap of an industrialist and was awaiting trial.
"Palaiokostas and his Albanian accomplice escaped from Korydallos prison by helicopter," said a police official who declined to be named.
"The helicopter was then found in the northern Athens suburb of Kapandriti but there was no trace of the fugitives."
Palaiokostas was serving a prison sentence for multiple robberies and kidnapping when accomplices whisked him out of the prison courtyard three years ago. Police found him in August by tracing the marked ransom money.
By Angeliki Koutantou in Athens
Reuters
February 23, 2009 08:04am
GREECE'S most notorious prisoner escaped from an Athens jail yesterday in a Hollywood-style helicopter getaway - for a second time.
Vassilis Palaiokostas, 44, had escaped from the maximum security prison in 2006 in an operation involving helicopters and fast cars.
He was arrested again last summer for allegedly organising the kidnap of an industrialist and was awaiting trial.
"Palaiokostas and his Albanian accomplice escaped from Korydallos prison by helicopter," said a police official who declined to be named.
"The helicopter was then found in the northern Athens suburb of Kapandriti but there was no trace of the fugitives."
Palaiokostas was serving a prison sentence for multiple robberies and kidnapping when accomplices whisked him out of the prison courtyard three years ago. Police found him in August by tracing the marked ransom money.
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 9:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Appeal dismissed in teen beheading case
A man who brutally decapitated a homeless teenager and then used his head as a bowling ball has had his appeal against his conviction dismissed.
James Patrick Roughan was 27 in July 2008 when he was found guilty by a Queensland Supreme Court jury, for the second time, of murdering Morgan Jay Shepherd on March 29, 2005, at Sandgate, north of Brisbane.
Mr Shepherd, 17, was stabbed 133 times and decapitated, before his head was used as a puppet and a bowling ball.
Roughan and co-accused Christopher Clark Jones, then 23, were jailed for life.
Witnesses told the Brisbane court the two had bragged about the murder.
After being found guilty of murder in the first trial with Jones, Roughan appealed the verdict in the Court of Appeal in Brisbane in December 2007 and won the right to a retrial by himself.
Unsuccessful in both trials, Roughan once again appealed his conviction in the Court of Appeal on February 2.
Roughan's lawyer argued that other than two admissions made by Roughan about the murder, all other prosecution evidence was circumstantial and the crown didn't have a strong case.
While the defence admitted Roughan was involved in the mutilation and disposal of Mr Shepherd's body, they argued there was no evidence that proved Roughan was involved in the actual killing and that he was only a passive onlooker.
The Court of Appeal referred to a transcript between Jones and Roughan in a prison van secretly recorded by police after their arrest.
"I'm taking responsibility for what I've got, your soul's condemned to hell because you're weak," Roughan said to Jones.
"You'll see, you'll be spending (time in prison) with me for a long, long time mate. That's if, that's if you survive, mind you.
"You've got a long time to live with your f***ing self now. Let's see if you can handle it without committing suicide."
In the Court of Appeal summary, Justice Patrick Keane said the prison van conversation debunked the defence's argument that Roughan was a passive onlooker.
"The conversation between Jones and the appellant in the prison van set out above afforded good evidence of the nature of their relationship with each other," Justice Keane said.
"It revealed that the appellant was not afraid of Jones."
A man who brutally decapitated a homeless teenager and then used his head as a bowling ball has had his appeal against his conviction dismissed.
James Patrick Roughan was 27 in July 2008 when he was found guilty by a Queensland Supreme Court jury, for the second time, of murdering Morgan Jay Shepherd on March 29, 2005, at Sandgate, north of Brisbane.
Mr Shepherd, 17, was stabbed 133 times and decapitated, before his head was used as a puppet and a bowling ball.
Roughan and co-accused Christopher Clark Jones, then 23, were jailed for life.
Witnesses told the Brisbane court the two had bragged about the murder.
After being found guilty of murder in the first trial with Jones, Roughan appealed the verdict in the Court of Appeal in Brisbane in December 2007 and won the right to a retrial by himself.
Unsuccessful in both trials, Roughan once again appealed his conviction in the Court of Appeal on February 2.
Roughan's lawyer argued that other than two admissions made by Roughan about the murder, all other prosecution evidence was circumstantial and the crown didn't have a strong case.
While the defence admitted Roughan was involved in the mutilation and disposal of Mr Shepherd's body, they argued there was no evidence that proved Roughan was involved in the actual killing and that he was only a passive onlooker.
The Court of Appeal referred to a transcript between Jones and Roughan in a prison van secretly recorded by police after their arrest.
"I'm taking responsibility for what I've got, your soul's condemned to hell because you're weak," Roughan said to Jones.
"You'll see, you'll be spending (time in prison) with me for a long, long time mate. That's if, that's if you survive, mind you.
"You've got a long time to live with your f***ing self now. Let's see if you can handle it without committing suicide."
In the Court of Appeal summary, Justice Patrick Keane said the prison van conversation debunked the defence's argument that Roughan was a passive onlooker.
"The conversation between Jones and the appellant in the prison van set out above afforded good evidence of the nature of their relationship with each other," Justice Keane said.
"It revealed that the appellant was not afraid of Jones."
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 11:01amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
PETER Garrett will make a comeback with a re-formed Midnight Oil, joining Coldplay and Kings of Leon in major bushfire benefit concerts.
Environment Minister Garrett and his band will join British superstars Coldplay and US rock act Kings of Leon to headline the concerts, which feature an all-star line-up of Aussie and international acts.
Premier John Brumby today joined promoters and artists to launch bushfire concerts Sound Relief which will be staged simultaneously at the MCG and the SCG on Saturday March 14.
In a marathon effort, Aussie bands Jet and Wolfmother will perform at both the Sydney and Melbourne concerts.
The line-up for the Melbourne concert includes Augie March, Bliss N Eso with Paris Wells, Gabriella Cilmi, a re-formed Hunters and Collectors, Kasey Chambers and Shane Nicholson with Troy Cassar-Daly, Jack Johnson, Jet, Kings of Leon, Midnight Oil, Paul Kelly, Split Enz and Wolfmother.
The bill for Sydneyâs Sound Relief concert includes Coldplay, Eskimo Joe, Hoodoo Gurus, Icehouse, Jet, Josh Pyke, Little Birdie, The Presets, Wolfmother and You Am I. More acts will be announced for the Sydney concert.
Mr Brumby said all ticket sales proceeds from the Melbourne Sound Relief concert will go to the Victorian Bushfire Relief Fund.
A 50 per cent share of ticket sales profits from the Sydney Sound Relief will go to the bushfire fund, with the other 50 per cent to go to the Premierâs Disaster Relief Fund in Queensland to help flood victims.
âWe are picking up the pieces after the worst natural disaster in Australiaâs history and it is fitting that a concert to raise money to rebuild communities devastated by these fires will also be among the single largest music concert event in our countryâs history,â he said.
Tickets will go on sale for $75 at 9am on Wednesday March 4 through Ticketek on 132 849 .
Environment Minister Garrett and his band will join British superstars Coldplay and US rock act Kings of Leon to headline the concerts, which feature an all-star line-up of Aussie and international acts.
Premier John Brumby today joined promoters and artists to launch bushfire concerts Sound Relief which will be staged simultaneously at the MCG and the SCG on Saturday March 14.
In a marathon effort, Aussie bands Jet and Wolfmother will perform at both the Sydney and Melbourne concerts.
The line-up for the Melbourne concert includes Augie March, Bliss N Eso with Paris Wells, Gabriella Cilmi, a re-formed Hunters and Collectors, Kasey Chambers and Shane Nicholson with Troy Cassar-Daly, Jack Johnson, Jet, Kings of Leon, Midnight Oil, Paul Kelly, Split Enz and Wolfmother.
The bill for Sydneyâs Sound Relief concert includes Coldplay, Eskimo Joe, Hoodoo Gurus, Icehouse, Jet, Josh Pyke, Little Birdie, The Presets, Wolfmother and You Am I. More acts will be announced for the Sydney concert.
Mr Brumby said all ticket sales proceeds from the Melbourne Sound Relief concert will go to the Victorian Bushfire Relief Fund.
A 50 per cent share of ticket sales profits from the Sydney Sound Relief will go to the bushfire fund, with the other 50 per cent to go to the Premierâs Disaster Relief Fund in Queensland to help flood victims.
âWe are picking up the pieces after the worst natural disaster in Australiaâs history and it is fitting that a concert to raise money to rebuild communities devastated by these fires will also be among the single largest music concert event in our countryâs history,â he said.
Tickets will go on sale for $75 at 9am on Wednesday March 4 through Ticketek on 132 849 .
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 11:44amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Council sits tight and waits for rain
Article from: The Advertiser
DANIEL WILLS
February 23, 2009 08:40pm
ADELAIDE City Council has resolved to do nothing to refill the Torrens Lake and will wait for rain and groundwater to slowly pour back in.
Last night's decision came just hours after the State Government dumped plans to pipe water from the Riverview Quarry as tests revealed "extremely high" sulphate levels that would decimate the ecosystem.
During the announcement, City of Adelaide Minister Jane Lomax-Smith said the council would have to go "back to the drawing board" and find a "creative solution" to replenish the lake, which has been a muddy bog since it was drained by a weir malfunction on February 11.
The lake is currently refilling at 35mm a day, but that rate is expected to slow in the coming weeks. Without rain, the council's "best forecast" is for the lake to be full in 30-40 days.
But hydrologist Professor Craig Simmons told The Advertiser last week groundwater alone probably would not refill the lake.
"The lake's natural state is largely surface water, my gut feeling is the lake will not refill itself with groundwater," he said.
Findings from an Environment Protection Authority report released yesterday likened the impact of releasing the quarry water into the lake with a major diesel spill.
Small invertebrates could be wiped out completely and the entire river system would remain polluted for up to two years, it said.
"The advice we took from the EPA has been absolutely conclusive. They believe it's not a suitable type of water to use in the Torrens Lake," Dr Lomax-Smith said.
"We know that the Torrens Lake is not pristine water in any case, but one would not like to fill it with water that would add to its dilemma in term of blue-green algae and other pollutants."
But Dr Lomax-Smith said the Government might reconsider the quarry option if a major rain event sufficiently diluted the toxins.
Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the situation was "unfortunate", but the council would continue with its clean-up program which had already pulled 17 tonnes of rubbish from the lake's bottom.
"As the levels gradually rise, council will also be undertaking a series of revegetation plantings and will progress its carp eradication program within the Torrens Lake to reduce the possible incidences of algal blooms," he said. "We intend to commence this planting while the water level is low, and the current situation presents a window of opportunity for this."
Adelaide City Council is continuing investigations into how the weir gate was opened.
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Crap... heres hoping it rains before Groove! Gonna be nice and stinky otherwise.
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 11:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Notorious Greek prisoner Vassilis Palaiokostas escapes by helicopter - again
By Angeliki Koutantou in Athens
Reuters
February 23, 2009 08:04am
GREECE'S most notorious prisoner escaped from an Athens jail yesterday in a Hollywood-style helicopter getaway - for a second time.
Vassilis Palaiokostas, 44, had escaped from the maximum security prison in 2006 in an operation involving helicopters and fast cars.
He was arrested again last summer for allegedly organising the kidnap of an industrialist and was awaiting trial.
"Palaiokostas and his Albanian accomplice escaped from Korydallos prison by helicopter," said a police official who declined to be named.
"The helicopter was then found in the northern Athens suburb of Kapandriti but there was no trace of the fugitives."
Palaiokostas was serving a prison sentence for multiple robberies and kidnapping when accomplices whisked him out of the prison courtyard three years ago. Police found him in August by tracing the marked ransom money.
By Angeliki Koutantou in Athens
Reuters
February 23, 2009 08:04am
GREECE'S most notorious prisoner escaped from an Athens jail yesterday in a Hollywood-style helicopter getaway - for a second time.
Vassilis Palaiokostas, 44, had escaped from the maximum security prison in 2006 in an operation involving helicopters and fast cars.
He was arrested again last summer for allegedly organising the kidnap of an industrialist and was awaiting trial.
"Palaiokostas and his Albanian accomplice escaped from Korydallos prison by helicopter," said a police official who declined to be named.
"The helicopter was then found in the northern Athens suburb of Kapandriti but there was no trace of the fugitives."
Palaiokostas was serving a prison sentence for multiple robberies and kidnapping when accomplices whisked him out of the prison courtyard three years ago. Police found him in August by tracing the marked ransom money.
that is legendary, done it twice... bad man!!
:slayer:
Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 11:55amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
that is legendary, done it twice... bad man!!
:slayer:
:slayer:
Haha lengend!
Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 7:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bloody hell, it was only a matter of time before ACA and Today Tonight ended up doing this..
Nine Network reporter Ben Fordham expecting criminal charges over hitman report
AAP
February 25, 2009 08:02pm
NINE Network reporter Ben Fordham and a producer from A Current Affair (ACA) expect to be charged tomorrow over a hidden camera investigation they say headed off a murder.
Fordham posed as an accomplice to an alleged hitman who was approached by a Sydney man to kill another man.
The ACA report said the man wanted to kill the target because he was blackmailing a friend of his.
The story, which relied heavily on the use of hidden cameras and microphones, aired on ACA last year.
On ACA tonight, Fordham said he and producer Andrew Byrne expected to be charged by NSW Police at their office tomorrow.
"The DPP has recommended charges and police have arranged to come to Channel Nine tomorrow to lay them," Fordham said.
"They relate to an alleged breach of the Listening Devices Act and allegedly concealing a serious indictable offence.
"Both of these charges carry maximum penalties of two years jail apiece, so to say that Andrew Byrne and I are worried is an understatement."
Fordham said he was "shellshocked, stunned, bemused" but said he and Byrne would vigorously defend the impending charges.
Nine Network reporter Ben Fordham expecting criminal charges over hitman report
AAP
February 25, 2009 08:02pm
NINE Network reporter Ben Fordham and a producer from A Current Affair (ACA) expect to be charged tomorrow over a hidden camera investigation they say headed off a murder.
Fordham posed as an accomplice to an alleged hitman who was approached by a Sydney man to kill another man.
The ACA report said the man wanted to kill the target because he was blackmailing a friend of his.
The story, which relied heavily on the use of hidden cameras and microphones, aired on ACA last year.
On ACA tonight, Fordham said he and producer Andrew Byrne expected to be charged by NSW Police at their office tomorrow.
"The DPP has recommended charges and police have arranged to come to Channel Nine tomorrow to lay them," Fordham said.
"They relate to an alleged breach of the Listening Devices Act and allegedly concealing a serious indictable offence.
"Both of these charges carry maximum penalties of two years jail apiece, so to say that Andrew Byrne and I are worried is an understatement."
Fordham said he was "shellshocked, stunned, bemused" but said he and Byrne would vigorously defend the impending charges.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 5:20amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
If anything, all reporters on both shows should be convicted for crimes against journalism.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 5:43amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Agreed. Loved it when that group of people sold both of them their story about living in the sewers of Melbourne or Sydney and it was a complete setup to show how shit they are.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 7:29amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Octuplet mum offered porn contract
THE American woman who gave birth to octuplets, has been offered $US1 million ($1.54 million) to star in hardcore porn.
The Associated Press (AP) reported that Vivid Entertainment had included a year's worth of health insurance for Nadya Suleman's family in the offer.
Vivid said the offer was sent yesterday via overnight mail and there had been no immediate response, AP reported.
The offer letter said Ms Suleman's video would be distributed under the Vivid-Celeb imprint, which has released videos starring Pamela Anderson and Kim Kardashian.
>Suleman, 33, gave birth to the octuplets on January 26 in a Californian hospital.
She has six other children, and has said all 14 of her children were conceived through in vitro fertilisation, with sperm from an unidentified, platonic friend.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25108606-5005962,00.html
:hurl:
THE American woman who gave birth to octuplets, has been offered $US1 million ($1.54 million) to star in hardcore porn.
The Associated Press (AP) reported that Vivid Entertainment had included a year's worth of health insurance for Nadya Suleman's family in the offer.
Vivid said the offer was sent yesterday via overnight mail and there had been no immediate response, AP reported.
The offer letter said Ms Suleman's video would be distributed under the Vivid-Celeb imprint, which has released videos starring Pamela Anderson and Kim Kardashian.
>Suleman, 33, gave birth to the octuplets on January 26 in a Californian hospital.
She has six other children, and has said all 14 of her children were conceived through in vitro fertilisation, with sperm from an unidentified, platonic friend.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25108606-5005962,00.html
:hurl:
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 7:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
this is her i think...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45451000/jpg/_45451892_45451757.jpg)
this is her i think...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45451000/jpg/_45451892_45451757.jpg)
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 8:46amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.
Erk
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 9:12amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
I wonder how much you get for selling a story......
Agreed. Loved it when that group of people sold both of them their story about living in the sewers of Melbourne or Sydney and it was a complete setup to show how shit they are.
I wonder how much you get for selling a story......
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 10:27amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.
not necessarily, i think ten or more of the kids were taken out by caeserian?
:lol:
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 10:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
:lol: your an ideas man arent ya Khem :biggrin:
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 11:10amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
not necessarily, i think ten or more of the kids were taken out by caeserian?
:lol:
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
:lol:
i wonder if the octo-mom porn will be called octo-pussy, or if she will have to do 8 guys at once...
:E
lol already been done I believe
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 11:35amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
oh yeah we really want to see more of this!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0212_octomom_pregnant_pictures_ex5.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0212_octomom_pregnant_pictures_ex5.jpg)
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 1:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
they'd need someone "Noddy-minded" to co-star
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 2:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Eight midgets could play the babies, and they could re-enact the birth but in reverse so they all go back in! This thing writes itself!
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 4:46pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
They caught the piece of shit that killed that little old lady from down south... :angry:
February 26, 2009.
'Unspeakable murder' arrest
A CHRISTIE Downs woman has appeared in court over the "unspeakable" murder of pensioner Vonne McGlynn, whose dismembered body was found this week.
Angelika Gavare, 34, from Christies Down, was arrested at Morphett Vale this morning and taken to Adelaide Police Station, where she was charged with killing Ms McGlynn.
Gavare was refused police bail and appeared briefly in the Adelaide Magistrates Court, where she stood with her head bowed with her back to the public gallery.
Craig Fabian, for Gavare, said he would not be seeking to have his client released on bail at this time.
However, he did ask her name, image and anything tending to identify her be suppressed from publication.
Prosecutor John Wells said police only sought a suppression on Gavare's image pending identification procedures.
Following submission by The Advertiser, Magistrate Alfio Grasso refused Mr Fabian's application.
He remanded Gavare in custody until May.
Outside court, Major Crime Investigation Branch officer-in-charge Detective Superintendent John Venditto described Mrs McGlynn's murder as "unspeakable".
"This is a crime that falls into the category of unspeakable," he said.
Police this afternoon confirmed that human remains found inside plastic bags in a creek near Lonsdale yesterday afternoon included a human torso believed to Mrs McGlynn's.
Police said they are still awaiting positive confirmation of the identity of the remains, with DNA results expected soon.
"However preliminary identification of the remains indicates that they are those of the missing person Vonne McGlynn,'' they said in a statement.
"Police are satisfied that the crime scene at Christies Creek Reserve, Christies Downs, has been thoroughly examined to date.
"However the search for Vonne McGlynn's remains ongoing and further searches are likely once all the available evidence is considered.''
The police statement said Major Crime detectives still were seeking information from members of the public who may have seen a person in or in the vicinity of Christies Creek Reserve, Christies Downs or Scottsglade Street, Christies Downs pushing a pram in early December 2008.
The breakthrough in the case comes after various parcels of human remains were found by police in a creekbed near Lonsdale, indicating Ms McGlynn had been dismembered after she was killed.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25092896-5006301,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25092896-5006301,00.html)
:fire:
February 26, 2009.
'Unspeakable murder' arrest
A CHRISTIE Downs woman has appeared in court over the "unspeakable" murder of pensioner Vonne McGlynn, whose dismembered body was found this week.
Angelika Gavare, 34, from Christies Down, was arrested at Morphett Vale this morning and taken to Adelaide Police Station, where she was charged with killing Ms McGlynn.
Gavare was refused police bail and appeared briefly in the Adelaide Magistrates Court, where she stood with her head bowed with her back to the public gallery.
Craig Fabian, for Gavare, said he would not be seeking to have his client released on bail at this time.
However, he did ask her name, image and anything tending to identify her be suppressed from publication.
Prosecutor John Wells said police only sought a suppression on Gavare's image pending identification procedures.
Following submission by The Advertiser, Magistrate Alfio Grasso refused Mr Fabian's application.
He remanded Gavare in custody until May.
Outside court, Major Crime Investigation Branch officer-in-charge Detective Superintendent John Venditto described Mrs McGlynn's murder as "unspeakable".
"This is a crime that falls into the category of unspeakable," he said.
Police this afternoon confirmed that human remains found inside plastic bags in a creek near Lonsdale yesterday afternoon included a human torso believed to Mrs McGlynn's.
Police said they are still awaiting positive confirmation of the identity of the remains, with DNA results expected soon.
"However preliminary identification of the remains indicates that they are those of the missing person Vonne McGlynn,'' they said in a statement.
"Police are satisfied that the crime scene at Christies Creek Reserve, Christies Downs, has been thoroughly examined to date.
"However the search for Vonne McGlynn's remains ongoing and further searches are likely once all the available evidence is considered.''
The police statement said Major Crime detectives still were seeking information from members of the public who may have seen a person in or in the vicinity of Christies Creek Reserve, Christies Downs or Scottsglade Street, Christies Downs pushing a pram in early December 2008.
The breakthrough in the case comes after various parcels of human remains were found by police in a creekbed near Lonsdale, indicating Ms McGlynn had been dismembered after she was killed.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25092896-5006301,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25092896-5006301,00.html)
:fire:
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 5:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I thought everyone living at Christies Downs had killed & dismembered at least one person in their life.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 5:20pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I thought everyone living at Christies Downs had killed & dismembered at least one person in their life.
Or at least had sex with a dismembered corpse of some sort.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 5:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Or at least had sex with a dismembered corpse of some sort.
Oh hell yeah. Munting is massive down south.
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 7:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
they'd need someone "Noddy-minded" to co-star
i hear max hardcore is in jail, shame
Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 7:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
i hear max hardcore is in jail, shame
There is something seriously wrong with the legal system when an upstanding member of the community like him could go to jail.
Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 3:53pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
would make a killing on "FREE MAX!!" shirts
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 3:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Six-year-old boy pins himself repeated to wall with remote-controlled car
A SIX-YEAR-OLD boy is in a critical condition after repeatedly pinning himself against a wall while playing with a full-sized remote-controlled car, emergency services said.
He suffered multiple leg fractures, pelvic and head injuries at his family's semi-rural property at Grose Vale, in Sydney's northwest, just before 11am (AEDT) today.
"It is thought from the information that people gave to doctors at the scene that somehow the boy hit the button and the car has gone forward and pinned him against the wall," NRMA CareFlight spokesman Ian Badham said.
"That happened four times - the car pinned him four times. That's why both legs have been badly broken."
Emergency services were called, but the boy's mother put him in the car and started to drive to hospital, he said.
She contacted ambulance officers en route and was told to wait for paramedics at the nearby Richmond North Public School.
The CareFlight helicopter landed at the school's oval and an onboard specialist doctor helped ambulance paramedics treat the boy.
He was heavily sedated before being airlifted to the Children's Hospital at Westmead, where he remains in a critical condition.
"He will be undergoing extensive orthopedic surgery for the rest of today," Mr Badham said.
The injuries were not thought to be life-threatening, he said.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25133023-911,00.html
a full size remote controlled car??? wtf??? :eh:
A SIX-YEAR-OLD boy is in a critical condition after repeatedly pinning himself against a wall while playing with a full-sized remote-controlled car, emergency services said.
He suffered multiple leg fractures, pelvic and head injuries at his family's semi-rural property at Grose Vale, in Sydney's northwest, just before 11am (AEDT) today.
"It is thought from the information that people gave to doctors at the scene that somehow the boy hit the button and the car has gone forward and pinned him against the wall," NRMA CareFlight spokesman Ian Badham said.
"That happened four times - the car pinned him four times. That's why both legs have been badly broken."
Emergency services were called, but the boy's mother put him in the car and started to drive to hospital, he said.
She contacted ambulance officers en route and was told to wait for paramedics at the nearby Richmond North Public School.
The CareFlight helicopter landed at the school's oval and an onboard specialist doctor helped ambulance paramedics treat the boy.
He was heavily sedated before being airlifted to the Children's Hospital at Westmead, where he remains in a critical condition.
"He will be undergoing extensive orthopedic surgery for the rest of today," Mr Badham said.
The injuries were not thought to be life-threatening, he said.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25133023-911,00.html
a full size remote controlled car??? wtf??? :eh:
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 3:41pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
a full size remote controlled car??? wtf???
That's what I thought when I read the story... was it the size of a real car??? :eh:
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 3:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's what I thought when I read the story... was it the size of a real car??? :eh:
Thats what it sounds like.. The parents should be held resposible if that is the case... as if something like this wouldnt happen with a 6 year old @ the wheel... :eek:
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 6:28pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jet hopper rather than a mini jet hopper I'd say
hard core masochist cunt
hard core masochist cunt
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 6:29pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jet hopper rather than a mini jet hopper I'd say
hard core masochist cunt
hard core masochist cunt
:rofl:
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 7:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jet hopper rather than a mini jet hopper I'd say
:lol:
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 7:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jet hopper rather than a mini jet hopper I'd say
OMFG That brings back memories!
Posted: 3 Mar 2009, 8:20pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Six-year-old boy pins himself repeated to wall with remote-controlled car
a full size remote controlled car??? wtf??? :eh:
Looks like it was a 300ZX with remote start on its alarm/turbo timer. Sounds like the kid was standing in front of the car and it was in gear.
Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 9:16amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Hard to believe this has not been mentioned yet:
"Hunt on for gunmen in terror attack on Sri Lankan cricket team"
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25137019-601,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25137019-601,00.html)
The world is going to hell in a handbasket.
"Hunt on for gunmen in terror attack on Sri Lankan cricket team"
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25137019-601,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25137019-601,00.html)
The world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 9:30amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The differences between Pakistan and Hell have been negligible for some time now.
Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 9:46amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
andrew symonds would feel pretty justified right now i reckon.
Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 7:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I hear the police have counted up all the bullets used, final tally was 8 for 366.
No but seriously, the Paki's will cop a tactical nuke to the face if they aren't careful. No one will let a country with over 100 nukes come under control of anyone / any group even remotely crazy.
No but seriously, the Paki's will cop a tactical nuke to the face if they aren't careful. No one will let a country with over 100 nukes come under control of anyone / any group even remotely crazy.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 10:39amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I hear the police have counted up all the bullets used, final tally was 8 for 366.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 11:30amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I hear the police have counted up all the bullets used, final tally was 8 for 366.
No but seriously, the Paki's will cop a tactical nuke to the face if they aren't careful. No one will let a country with over 100 nukes come under control of anyone / any group even remotely crazy.
No but seriously, the Paki's will cop a tactical nuke to the face if they aren't careful. No one will let a country with over 100 nukes come under control of anyone / any group even remotely crazy.
:lol:
i read something from some experts on this thing, basically saying the west has dropped the ball on pakistan and should be putting more help there as its a far greater risk than just afghanistan.
sobering thought.
even just a handful of tactical or strategic nukes limited to pakistan would have a devastating impact on all of south east asia, leading to starvation, mass migration, civil unrest etc.
stupid fucking muslims need to taste some bacon love, realise the world is a great place and calm the fuck down
Erk
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 11:37amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bacon = peace
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 1:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Bacon = peace
Exactly!
Do you have any idea of the number of uptight vegos ive known who couldnt hack it anymore, splurged on smoked & spiced pork products and relaxed? even angry lesos after playing a couple of tunes on the spam javelin suddenly shave their pits, grown their hair and wear a bra. you can only begin to imagine what it could achieve with psychotic fundos!
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 2:52pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: I can't believe the answer to middle east peace was so simple, the jews don't eat bacon either.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:21pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
pretty sure that's what Damian Albarn was thinking with BLUR
Bacon. Love. Unity. Respect
swine raver
Bacon. Love. Unity. Respect
swine raver
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
remember pass the pigs?
makin bacon?
:lol:
makin bacon?
:lol:
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Drug disposal bin to be trialled at West Australian music festival
A DRUG disposal bin will be trialled at a West Australian music festival in what police believe is an Australian first.
The move follows the death of 17-year-old Perth girl Gemma Thoms, who died after taking three ecstasy pills before the Big Day Out in Perth on February 2.
Ms Thoms's friends said she swallowed the pills before entering the festival gates for fear of being caught by police.
WA Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan said the drug disposal bin would be trialled at the Rock-It music festival in Joondalup this weekend.
"The bin will be placed near the main entrance to the festival and patrons will be encouraged to use it without the threat of prosecution by police," Mr O'Callaghan said.
Once patrons pass the bin they will be subjected to the scrutiny of police and drug detection dogs.
"Anyone caught with drugs after passing the drug disposal bin will be subjected to prosecution to the full extent of the law," Mr O'Callaghan said.
A pamphlet to inform concert-goers of the dangers of drugs has been produced with the input of government and non-government agencies. It will be distributed electronically to ticket holders by the event organisers and handed out at the Rock-It concert.
Sergeant Greg Lambert said it was his understanding it was the first trial of a drug disposal bin in Australia.
"I think we are the first ones to try it but there has been trials overseas, in England and the United States," Sgt Lambert said.
"The English trial seems to have been quite successful but in the United States it has proved otherwise."
A DRUG disposal bin will be trialled at a West Australian music festival in what police believe is an Australian first.
The move follows the death of 17-year-old Perth girl Gemma Thoms, who died after taking three ecstasy pills before the Big Day Out in Perth on February 2.
Ms Thoms's friends said she swallowed the pills before entering the festival gates for fear of being caught by police.
WA Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan said the drug disposal bin would be trialled at the Rock-It music festival in Joondalup this weekend.
"The bin will be placed near the main entrance to the festival and patrons will be encouraged to use it without the threat of prosecution by police," Mr O'Callaghan said.
Once patrons pass the bin they will be subjected to the scrutiny of police and drug detection dogs.
"Anyone caught with drugs after passing the drug disposal bin will be subjected to prosecution to the full extent of the law," Mr O'Callaghan said.
A pamphlet to inform concert-goers of the dangers of drugs has been produced with the input of government and non-government agencies. It will be distributed electronically to ticket holders by the event organisers and handed out at the Rock-It concert.
Sergeant Greg Lambert said it was his understanding it was the first trial of a drug disposal bin in Australia.
"I think we are the first ones to try it but there has been trials overseas, in England and the United States," Sgt Lambert said.
"The English trial seems to have been quite successful but in the United States it has proved otherwise."
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Has the person not answered this implicit contract by taking the narcotics to an event with police in the first place? The bin serves the same purpose as leaving them at home, or in the car. Whether conciously or not the person has made a risk vs reward comparison already. The only end this will serve is when people decide to break their original contract due to a sudden spike in fear. To which end, legislating that police can only search a person when inside the venue serves the same, entirely useless aim.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Agreed. It's stupid. At home, in the car, hell, you could just throw them on the ground anyway.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:52pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Paranoid people are going to be too afraid to drop their drugs in the bin even if they're told they won't be prosecuted.
The girl who died wasn't going to be searched by cops but reality didn't impact on her decision making.
The girl who died wasn't going to be searched by cops but reality didn't impact on her decision making.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Imagine what could be found in the bin if you managed to knock one off!
HEAVEN IN A BIN
HEAVEN IN A BIN
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 3:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
armed hold ups coming soon to a festival bin near you
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Imagine what could be found in the bin if you managed to knock one off!
HEAVEN IN A BIN
HEAVEN IN A BIN
I'm sure that's what half this board thought when they first heard of it :drool:
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:11pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I'm sure that's what half this board thought when they first heard of it :drool:
whatever methface
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Can anyone see what's wrong with this news headline from news.com?
Mass 'World War 11' grave found :withstupid:
yeah whatever fagface :tongue
love from DM (aka deathmeth)
Mass 'World War 11' grave found :withstupid:
whatever methface
yeah whatever fagface :tongue
love from DM (aka deathmeth)
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Can anyone see what's wrong with this news headline from news.com?
Mass 'World War 11' grave found :withstupid:
Mass 'World War 11' grave found :withstupid:
Woooooooah
I knew I had a good sleep last night, but not that good.
What else did I miss?
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:37pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol: The Port Wakefield wharf has always been the site of a few 1st times. Good to see the tradition upheld
A SOUTH Australian married mother of two took a 12-year-old boy as her lover, and had sex with him in her car and on a patch of dirt by a dump, a court has heard.
A jury was today told Rebecca Robyn Daniel repeatedly denied having an affair with the boy, but told her co-worker she considered him "her best friend".
The 35-year-old, of Port Wakefield, is standing trial in the District Court.
She has pleaded not guilty to one count of aggravated indecent assault and three counts of unlawful sexual intercourse.
Opening the trial, prosecutor Michael Barnett said the offences occurred between June 2007 and February 2008.
At that time, the boy â who cannot be identified â was 12 and 13 years old, while Daniel was 34.
Mr Barnett told the jury Daniel would often give the boy a lift in her car.
"One night, when she was driving him home, she took a detour and drove to the wharf at Port Wakefield," he said.
"She stopped the car, turned off the lights, looked at the boy and said 'untie your pants'."
Mr Barnett said that was the first of two sexual encounters the couple had in the car.
A third occurred in a "large dump area" near her home where "the ground was dirt".
He said that, after they both undressed, Daniel told the boy to "stick it in".
Mr Barnett said local gossip linked Daniel and the boy as a couple, while the boy's father discovered she had been sending text messages to his son.
He said Daniel's co-worker quizzed her about the rumours.
"She denied that was so, but she did say during the conversation that (the boy) was her best friend and they were very close," he said.
The trial, before Judge Wayne Chivell, is continuing
A SOUTH Australian married mother of two took a 12-year-old boy as her lover, and had sex with him in her car and on a patch of dirt by a dump, a court has heard.
A jury was today told Rebecca Robyn Daniel repeatedly denied having an affair with the boy, but told her co-worker she considered him "her best friend".
The 35-year-old, of Port Wakefield, is standing trial in the District Court.
She has pleaded not guilty to one count of aggravated indecent assault and three counts of unlawful sexual intercourse.
Opening the trial, prosecutor Michael Barnett said the offences occurred between June 2007 and February 2008.
At that time, the boy â who cannot be identified â was 12 and 13 years old, while Daniel was 34.
Mr Barnett told the jury Daniel would often give the boy a lift in her car.
"One night, when she was driving him home, she took a detour and drove to the wharf at Port Wakefield," he said.
"She stopped the car, turned off the lights, looked at the boy and said 'untie your pants'."
Mr Barnett said that was the first of two sexual encounters the couple had in the car.
A third occurred in a "large dump area" near her home where "the ground was dirt".
He said that, after they both undressed, Daniel told the boy to "stick it in".
Mr Barnett said local gossip linked Daniel and the boy as a couple, while the boy's father discovered she had been sending text messages to his son.
He said Daniel's co-worker quizzed her about the rumours.
"She denied that was so, but she did say during the conversation that (the boy) was her best friend and they were very close," he said.
The trial, before Judge Wayne Chivell, is continuing
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 4:52pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Imagine if that was the other way around, a married Dad took a 12 year old girl there?
It's a sexist world we live in I tell ya
It's a sexist world we live in I tell ya
WeezPosts: 1,958
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
bitch never felt me up.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
was she hot?
WeezPosts: 1,958
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:31pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:39pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Imagine if that was the other way around, a married Dad took a 12 year old girl there?
It's a sexist world we live in I tell ya
i have never thought of it like that.
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:41pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i have never thought of it like that.
Everyone's thought of it like that
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
timbohPosts: 5,759
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
not me, have never made the comparison. you may not know this but i am reasonably stupid 
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
yeah I know that 
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 6:50pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
was she hot?
I thought that when I read the article yesterday too.Niccccce
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 8:51amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Imagine if that was the other way around, a married Dad took a 12 year old girl there?
It's a sexist world we live in I tell ya
i was just talking about this with the missus last night
seems a fair few of these mrs robinsons get off (so to speak
) without going to jail, but i cant recall a single time where the male teacher got spared some hard labour.is it because there are more than a handful of judges who put themselves in the boys shoes and think "you lucky bastard" and feeling it would be sour grapes to send her to cell block H?
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Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 3:06pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
i was just talking about this with the missus last night
seems a fair few of these mrs robinsons get off (so to speak
is it because there are more than a handful of judges who put themselves in the boys shoes and think "you lucky bastard" and feeling it would be sour grapes to send her to cell block H?
where are the feminist activists fighting for equal rights, and fair trial and all that junk?
Straight Edge since 1994.
Dyslexics are teople poo.
Dyslexics are teople poo.
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 4:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
where are the feminist activists fighting for equal rights, and fair trial and all that junk?
maybe theyre all secretly rooting 12 year old boys?
i dunno - am i brainwashed in that even to me, an older chick shagging a younger guy isnt as bad (though 12?? jesus how small must his tockley have been? lol) as a male teacher sneaking off for a bit of hide the sausage with a female student?
maybe putting myself in his shoes i cant help but think GO FOR IT MY SON!
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Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 4:37pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
She has a son of similar age I believe, just to put it in perspective.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 10:11pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Earth tremor rocks Melbourne, no reports of injuries
March 06, 2009 10:32pm
THE centre of Melbourne has been rocked by an earth tremor, with residents reporting buildings shaking across the metropolitan area.
Geoscience Australia, which monitors earthquake activity, said the tremor measured magnitude 4.6 on the Richter scale, with the epicentre at Korumburra, about 90km southeast of Melbourne.
The US Geological Survey reported on its website that the tremor, which hit at 8.55pm (AEDT) on today, measured 4.7.
"There's not much difference between 4.6 and 4.7 but we're still registering it as a 4.6,'' Geoscience Australia's duty seismologist Phil Cummins said.
"There were many reports from across a wide area - this was felt across a 100km radius.
"It was certainly a moderate earthquake that was likely to be felt across a wide area but is unlikely to have caused any damage, except possibly some minor damage near the epicentre.''
Victorian State Emergency Service (SES) spokesman Allen Briggs said the service had been inundated with phone calls from the public but there had been no reports of any damage to the service immediately after the tremor.
"It was certainly enough to rattle windows and we've had reports it was felt in metropolitan Melbourne and as far down as Warragul and Leongatha in Gippsland,'' Mr Briggs said.
Ron Smith, who lives in Kew, in Melbourne's inner northeast, said he was relaxing at home when he felt the building shake.
"Jeez, it came as a bit of a surprise. We were just sitting around when all of a sudden the place starts vibrating,'' he said.
Residents in Reservoir, in Melbourne's north, and householders in the Dandenong Ranges east of the city, reported feeling the tremor shortly before 9pm.
"It felt like a large truck driving past the house,'' Charisse Ede, of Monbulk, said, adding she felt a second, smaller tremor a few minutes later.
A spokeswoman for Victoria Police said the incident had also been reported to the police but she advised members of the public to only dial triple-0 in an emergency situation.
March 06, 2009 10:32pm
THE centre of Melbourne has been rocked by an earth tremor, with residents reporting buildings shaking across the metropolitan area.
Geoscience Australia, which monitors earthquake activity, said the tremor measured magnitude 4.6 on the Richter scale, with the epicentre at Korumburra, about 90km southeast of Melbourne.
The US Geological Survey reported on its website that the tremor, which hit at 8.55pm (AEDT) on today, measured 4.7.
"There's not much difference between 4.6 and 4.7 but we're still registering it as a 4.6,'' Geoscience Australia's duty seismologist Phil Cummins said.
"There were many reports from across a wide area - this was felt across a 100km radius.
"It was certainly a moderate earthquake that was likely to be felt across a wide area but is unlikely to have caused any damage, except possibly some minor damage near the epicentre.''
Victorian State Emergency Service (SES) spokesman Allen Briggs said the service had been inundated with phone calls from the public but there had been no reports of any damage to the service immediately after the tremor.
"It was certainly enough to rattle windows and we've had reports it was felt in metropolitan Melbourne and as far down as Warragul and Leongatha in Gippsland,'' Mr Briggs said.
Ron Smith, who lives in Kew, in Melbourne's inner northeast, said he was relaxing at home when he felt the building shake.
"Jeez, it came as a bit of a surprise. We were just sitting around when all of a sudden the place starts vibrating,'' he said.
Residents in Reservoir, in Melbourne's north, and householders in the Dandenong Ranges east of the city, reported feeling the tremor shortly before 9pm.
"It felt like a large truck driving past the house,'' Charisse Ede, of Monbulk, said, adding she felt a second, smaller tremor a few minutes later.
A spokeswoman for Victoria Police said the incident had also been reported to the police but she advised members of the public to only dial triple-0 in an emergency situation.
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 10:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
*Remember to not sit next to Julian on a bus*
Can't believe this guy could be out on the street - surely they lock him up in a nut-house.
Man who beheaded Canadian Greyhound bus passenger found not guilty
By Michel Comte in Ottawa
March 06, 2009 03:04pm
A CHINESE immigrant who beheaded and hacked to pieces a Canadian bus passenger in front of horrified travellers has been found not guilty of murder after being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, had been charged with murdering 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Canadian Greyhound bus on July 30, 2008.
Li had repeatedly stabbed Mr McLean, who had been asleep on the seat next to him, sawn off his head, removed his internal organs, pocketed his nose, tongue and an ear, and taunted police and bystanders with the severed head.
Police said in court documents Li "appeared to smell, and then eat parts of Tim McLean's flesh" and "lick blood from his hands" as they surrounded the bus on a desolate highway 90 kilometres west of Winnipeg, in western Canada, soon after the attack.
Authorities found body parts littered throughout the bus, some in white plastic bags.
Mr McLean's eyes and a third of his heart were also missing, and it is presumed Li ate them, said a pathologist in court files, though Li denies this.
The other 35 passengers and the driver were jolted by "blood-curdling screams" and fled, said witnesses, bracing the door after their escape to trap Li inside the bus.
He was subdued by police after a three-hour standoff.
Justice John Scurfield of the Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench described the killing as "grotesque" and "appalling," but ruled Li was not criminally responsible for the murder because of his mental disorder.
During a three-day trial, psychiatrists testified Li suffers from schizophrenia and did not know what he was doing when he killed Mr McLean.
The court heard Li had auditory hallucinations on the day of the attack, that he heard God's voice telling him to board the bus from Edmonton to Winnipeg, and kill Mr McLean.
Li dismembered Mr McLean's body, psychiatrists testified, because he feared Mr McLean could otherwise resurrect from the dead and seek revenge.
His mental health is to be evaluated within 90 days, the judge ordered. Thereafter, he may be released or confined to a secure psychiatric hospital for treatment.
Outside the courtroom, Mr McLean's mother Carol Dedelley expressed her disappointment at the verdict and her fears for public safety.
"This isn't the right result," she said.
"Knowing that that killer might get out sometime soon is very hard."
"A crime was still committed here, a murder still occurred, and (this) ruling seems to negate that fact."
"A major illness took my son's life, and he was never sick," she said.
"Mr Li should be held accountable for it," she said.
"Whether he was in his right frame of mind or not, he still did the act. There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife slicing up my child."
Mr McLean, according to his family, was on his way home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in western Canada, when he was attacked.
He "struggled and tried to escape" his attacker, but "eventually either fell or was thrown to the floor of the bus," court files said.
Investigators said friends described Li, a former computer programmer who had immigrated to Canada in 2001, as having had mental problems since 2004, but said they never knew him to be violent.
Li was admitted to a mental hospital in 2005, where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, according to court testimony.
Doctors identified his auditory hallucinations and offered him medication, but he declined treatment at the time.
"Unfortunately, he appears to have left the treatment facility without permission," the judge said.
Can't believe this guy could be out on the street - surely they lock him up in a nut-house.
Man who beheaded Canadian Greyhound bus passenger found not guilty
By Michel Comte in Ottawa
March 06, 2009 03:04pm
A CHINESE immigrant who beheaded and hacked to pieces a Canadian bus passenger in front of horrified travellers has been found not guilty of murder after being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, had been charged with murdering 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Canadian Greyhound bus on July 30, 2008.
Li had repeatedly stabbed Mr McLean, who had been asleep on the seat next to him, sawn off his head, removed his internal organs, pocketed his nose, tongue and an ear, and taunted police and bystanders with the severed head.
Police said in court documents Li "appeared to smell, and then eat parts of Tim McLean's flesh" and "lick blood from his hands" as they surrounded the bus on a desolate highway 90 kilometres west of Winnipeg, in western Canada, soon after the attack.
Authorities found body parts littered throughout the bus, some in white plastic bags.
Mr McLean's eyes and a third of his heart were also missing, and it is presumed Li ate them, said a pathologist in court files, though Li denies this.
The other 35 passengers and the driver were jolted by "blood-curdling screams" and fled, said witnesses, bracing the door after their escape to trap Li inside the bus.
He was subdued by police after a three-hour standoff.
Justice John Scurfield of the Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench described the killing as "grotesque" and "appalling," but ruled Li was not criminally responsible for the murder because of his mental disorder.
During a three-day trial, psychiatrists testified Li suffers from schizophrenia and did not know what he was doing when he killed Mr McLean.
The court heard Li had auditory hallucinations on the day of the attack, that he heard God's voice telling him to board the bus from Edmonton to Winnipeg, and kill Mr McLean.
Li dismembered Mr McLean's body, psychiatrists testified, because he feared Mr McLean could otherwise resurrect from the dead and seek revenge.
His mental health is to be evaluated within 90 days, the judge ordered. Thereafter, he may be released or confined to a secure psychiatric hospital for treatment.
Outside the courtroom, Mr McLean's mother Carol Dedelley expressed her disappointment at the verdict and her fears for public safety.
"This isn't the right result," she said.
"Knowing that that killer might get out sometime soon is very hard."
"A crime was still committed here, a murder still occurred, and (this) ruling seems to negate that fact."
"A major illness took my son's life, and he was never sick," she said.
"Mr Li should be held accountable for it," she said.
"Whether he was in his right frame of mind or not, he still did the act. There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife slicing up my child."
Mr McLean, according to his family, was on his way home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in western Canada, when he was attacked.
He "struggled and tried to escape" his attacker, but "eventually either fell or was thrown to the floor of the bus," court files said.
Investigators said friends described Li, a former computer programmer who had immigrated to Canada in 2001, as having had mental problems since 2004, but said they never knew him to be violent.
Li was admitted to a mental hospital in 2005, where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, according to court testimony.
Doctors identified his auditory hallucinations and offered him medication, but he declined treatment at the time.
"Unfortunately, he appears to have left the treatment facility without permission," the judge said.
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 11:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
"Unfortunately, he appears to have left the treatment facility without permission," the judge said.
Now this is bullshit. This part here should be used to indicate that the murder was of his own will. He voluntarily walked out of a hospital that would have treated his condition and his actions made his condition worse, resulting in the attack.
It's like letting someone off for murder if they take a bunch of drugs and kill someone in a psychotic episode.
The initial step that led to their frame of mind being in that dangerous state was of their own free will.
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 11:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
As fucked as it is you have to give the guy credit for taunting police with the head of his victim.
That takes flair.
That takes flair.
Testing the limits of the human heart since 1973.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 11:46pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
As fucked as it is you have to give the guy credit for taunting police with the head of his victim.
That takes flair.
Deserves serious respect IMO.
BTW the last few posts
Get off my lawn.
Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 8:43amSubject: Re: In The News Today
She has a son of similar age I believe, just to put it in perspective.
LOL
thats a whole lotta perspective there, thanks
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Kobra Kai @ RocketBar, Friday 25th Nov
The Levitators @ Crown & Sceptre, Sat 3rd Dec
Nuclear Summer @ Queens Theatre, 13-14 Jan 2012
1994-2006 D&B vinyl sale - classics, well looked after and priced to sell!
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Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 11:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
2 bits of interesting news today:
#1: quite a novel smuggling idea!
#2: What's the bet that Mugabe cunt had a hand in this:
#1:
quite a novel smuggling idea!Smuggler has broken leg cast in cocaine
March 06, 2009 09:53pm
SPANISH police say they have arrested a 66-year-old Chilean at Barcelona airport after discovering his broken leg was supported by a "cast'' made out of cocaine.
The man, who had hobbled off a flight from Santiago, was carrying more of the drug in fake beer cans and two hollowed-out stools.
"The man had a fractured leg and the 'plaster cast' that was immobilising it was entirely made from cocaine,'' a statement said.
He "displayed an open fracture of the tibia and the fibula, and has been transferred to a clinic for an operation.
"Investigators are examining the possibility that these injuries were brought about voluntarily ... to facilitate trafficking through security checks,'' the statement said.
#2: What's the bet that Mugabe cunt had a hand in this:
Zimbabwean Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai hurt, wife Susan Tsvangirai killed in car crash
March 07, 2009 09:30am
ZIMBABWE'S Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai was injured and his wife Susan was killed in a car crash overnight, party officials confirmed, adding that suspicious circumstances could indicate foul play.
The accident occurred on a notoriously dangerous stretch of road about 100km south of the capital Harare.
Officials from Mr Tsvangirai's party, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), who asked not to be named said his car was hit by the trailer of a heavy truck that swung out into the middle of the road when the two vehicles passed each other.
Mrs Tsvangirai was on the side of the car that was hit and suffered "massive" injuries. Hospital sources said Mr Tsvangirai did not appear to have any broken bones.
"Morgan is badly bruised and cut, but I'm afraid Susan has died," said Eddie Cross, a member of the MDC executive.
"Morgan will be devastated, they were a real team," said Mr Cross.
Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 3:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
LAMEYouTube blocks music videos
March 10, 2009 10:00am
YOUTUBE will block all music videos from being viewed in one of the world's biggest internet markets, after it was unable to reach a deal with a royalty collection group.
The world's largest video sharing website said PRS for Music, a British collection society that collects royalties on behalf of nearly 50,000 composers, was asking it to pay "many, many times" more than the previous UK licensing agreement that expired.
"The costs are simply prohibitive for us – under PRS's proposed terms, we would lose significant amounts of money with every playback," the company said.
The move is the latest sign of the tension between YouTube and the music industry.
It also indicates that YouTube is resolving to keep operating costs under control as it strives to generate profits for owner Google.
YouTube said PRS was unclear about which songs would be included in the renewed license.
"We've been talking to them for a long time and we're still talking to them," said Patrick Walker, YouTube director of video partnerships for Europe, Middle East and Africa.
Mr Walker described it as a "painful decision".
But PRS disputed YouTube's version of events and said it was caught by surprise by the announcement in the middle of ongoing negotiations.
"We were shocked and disappointed to receive a call late this afternoon informing us of Google's drastic action," said PRS for Music chief executive Steve Porter.
PRS said in a statement it was "outraged" on behalf of consumers and songwriters by YouTube's move.
"Google has told us they are taking this step because they wish to pay significantly less than at present to the writers of the music on which their service relies, despite the massive increase in YouTube viewing," the London-based organisation said.
The PRS statement pointed out that Google saw its revenue grow to $US5.7 billion ($9 billion) in the last quarter. The figure will likely be juxtaposed against the fast dwindling fortunes of the music industry.
Some rights-holders argue YouTube should pay a higher fee or share more advertising revenue since many users come to watch their music videos.
The deal between YouTube and PRS is separate from YouTube's relationships with major record companies, which have also been strained at times.
YouTube and the music industry have had an awkward but mutually beneficial partnership.
On one hand, label executives acknowledge that the popular video site is the way many people discover new music, especially as the power of radio and MTV wanes.
But with the industry seeing plunging CD sales, the labels hope that YouTube will also serve as a key revenue source.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 3:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
only happening in the uk afaik, easy enough to get around with a proxy anyway
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 4:34pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
PRS said in a statement it was "outraged" on behalf of consumers
Interesting bargaining method. If they do it globally it will probably be quite a successful bargaining method as well.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 7:55pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Uh oh, it's kind of like that APRA payment thing that if it increased was going to make running music venues way too expensive due to fees.
A dangerous precedent is looming perhaps.
A dangerous precedent is looming perhaps.
Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 8:04pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Australians pay for 'half-speed' broadband - Epitiro internet report
By Shannon Deery
MX
March 11, 2009 02:00pm
MILLIONS of Australians are paying up to $100 a month for high-speed broadband but getting just half of what they pay for.
Ground-breaking research has found the average speed delivered by companies such as Telstra, Optus and AAPT is almost half the figure advertised, making Australia a broadband backwater.
The findings come just a day after Telstra announced a plan to treble internet speeds by Christmas under a $300 million plan.
And while the new data found Telstra remained the country's fastest internet service provider - in front of TPG, iiNet and Netspace - consumers could still be unlikely to take advantage of the new turbo-charged service.
The report, by global broadband authority Epitiro, revealed Australians received an average 65.5 per cent of the advertised download speed from their internet service providers.
Speeds slumped to just 14.5 per cent when downloading content from international servers, while Telstra managed just 8.7 per cent of its advertised package speed when downloading from international servers.
Related Coverage
The findings were published in The Australian Internet Performance Index 2008. Epitiro monitored the performance of leading national ISPs in terms of actual customer experience between October and December last year.
Six million tests were conducted, covering popular broadband activities including web surfing, downloading music and movies, internet gaming and watching streaming videos.
Epitiro managing director Mike Cranna said the report "raises real concerns about both the actual levels of service being delivered to subscribers and Australia's connectivity to the rest of the world".
By Shannon Deery
MX
March 11, 2009 02:00pm
MILLIONS of Australians are paying up to $100 a month for high-speed broadband but getting just half of what they pay for.
Ground-breaking research has found the average speed delivered by companies such as Telstra, Optus and AAPT is almost half the figure advertised, making Australia a broadband backwater.
The findings come just a day after Telstra announced a plan to treble internet speeds by Christmas under a $300 million plan.
And while the new data found Telstra remained the country's fastest internet service provider - in front of TPG, iiNet and Netspace - consumers could still be unlikely to take advantage of the new turbo-charged service.
The report, by global broadband authority Epitiro, revealed Australians received an average 65.5 per cent of the advertised download speed from their internet service providers.
Speeds slumped to just 14.5 per cent when downloading content from international servers, while Telstra managed just 8.7 per cent of its advertised package speed when downloading from international servers.
Related Coverage
The findings were published in The Australian Internet Performance Index 2008. Epitiro monitored the performance of leading national ISPs in terms of actual customer experience between October and December last year.
Six million tests were conducted, covering popular broadband activities including web surfing, downloading music and movies, internet gaming and watching streaming videos.
Epitiro managing director Mike Cranna said the report "raises real concerns about both the actual levels of service being delivered to subscribers and Australia's connectivity to the rest of the world".
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 12:05amSubject: Re: In The News Today
The problem is Tel$tra's shithouse old copper cabling which frankly isn't getting replaced anytime soon because it would cost waaay too much for them to bother. While they're still raping line rental from other ISP customers and fleecing their own ma & pa computer illiterate types they couldn't really care.
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 9:20amSubject: Re: In The News Today
shocking article in the NY Times
The Invisible War
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/opinion/21herbert.html?_r=1
Poor fkn things
The Invisible War
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/opinion/21herbert.html?_r=1
Poor fkn things
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 9:53amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Tornado in SA !
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25172357-5006301,00.html
Victoria gets an earthquake ... We get a tornado ... I think it's the end of the world !
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25172357-5006301,00.html
Victoria gets an earthquake ... We get a tornado ... I think it's the end of the world !
Everything is so f*cking green
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 10:16amSubject: Re: In The News Today
shocking article in the NY Times
The Invisible War
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/opinion/21herbert.html?_r=1
Poor fkn things
The same thing happens in Sudan, the kids and women who live in villages have to go and hide together in the cities at night as they aren't safe in their own homes.
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 11:27amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Africa is one very, very messed up continent...
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 12:57amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Haha, couple of laughs from the online Advertiser mailout today.
And seems like they picked up on that fight from the Future Music festival...(least it's not about drugs for once!)
Girls Gone Wild:
Future Music fight
Brad Wilksch filmed this dramatic fight between two girls at Adelaide's Future Music Festival.
http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaidenow/#GUswnn25m3z_ciwOGM03Z3QZVHwzMB_i?referrer=email
Power tool sex toy wounds woman
March 12, 2009 10:30am
BIZARRE sexual experimentation landed an American woman in hospital after she attached a sex toy to a motorised saw.
The Maryland woman was flown to hospital on Monday after she was injured in the incident involving a sex toy attached to a sabre saw blade, according to NBCWashington.com.
The man who called 911 about the incident admitted attaching the sex toy to the saw and then using the high-powered, homemade device on his partner, the St Mary's County Sheriff's Office said.
The site reported the saw cut through the plastic toy and wounded the woman.
The injuries were severe enough for her to be flown to hospital but she was released on Tuesday.
NBCWashington.com said the woman told police she suffered the injuries during a consensual act and that she and her partner were trying something new and no crime was committed.
And seems like they picked up on that fight from the Future Music festival...(least it's not about drugs for once!)
Girls Gone Wild:
Future Music fight
Brad Wilksch filmed this dramatic fight between two girls at Adelaide's Future Music Festival.
http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaidenow/#GUswnn25m3z_ciwOGM03Z3QZVHwzMB_i?referrer=email
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 12:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Africa is one very, very messed up continent...
And the west essentially doesn't give a shit about it. That's just as bad IMO.
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 12:48pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
And the west essentially doesn't give a shit about it. That's just as bad IMO.
True, the rest of the worlds response to the Rwandan massacres was utterly shameful and so obviously racist.
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 2:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
ohhhhh heroin and rat poison *spooky hands*
Funny that crushed glass is in the title but not mentioned in the article!
Rat poison, crushed glass in ecstasy
ECSTASY tablets are being laced with deadly chemicals, anaesthetics and crushed glass, the Australian Federal Police say.
In an alert to parents, police said teenagers are "dicing with death", risking permanent brain damage with pills that may be 10 times stronger than normal ecstasy.
"One of the biggest problems with tablets sold as ecstasy is that you never know what you are taking, it is like playing Russian roulette," said AFP border and international manager Assistant Commissioner Tim Morris.
The AFP's illicit drug intelligence program has found pills showing traces of heroin, LSD, rat poison and vets' anaesthetics.
Funny that crushed glass is in the title but not mentioned in the article!
Rat poison, crushed glass in ecstasy
ECSTASY tablets are being laced with deadly chemicals, anaesthetics and crushed glass, the Australian Federal Police say.
In an alert to parents, police said teenagers are "dicing with death", risking permanent brain damage with pills that may be 10 times stronger than normal ecstasy.
"One of the biggest problems with tablets sold as ecstasy is that you never know what you are taking, it is like playing Russian roulette," said AFP border and international manager Assistant Commissioner Tim Morris.
The AFP's illicit drug intelligence program has found pills showing traces of heroin, LSD, rat poison and vets' anaesthetics.
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 2:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
True, the rest of the worlds response to the Rwandan massacres was utterly shameful and so obviously racist.
What do you mean? Theyre black!
Get off my lawn.
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 2:51pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
For sale: nagging wife, very high maintenance
Posted 1 hour 4 minutes ago
A British man fed up with his wife's complaints has advertised her for sale - and received a number of offers.
"Nagging Wife. No Tax, No MOT (ministry of transport test). Very high maintenance - some rust," wrote Gary Bates, 38, in a small ad in British classifieds magazine Trade-It, more usually used to buy and sell cars or household goods.
Mr Bates, a self-employed builder from Gloucestershire, south-west England, snapped after his wife Donna got on his nerves while she was watching television and decided to place the ad as a joke.
"She was nagging me for doing something small, while she was watching some rubbish on TV," he said.
"So I just thought I'd put an ad in to get rid of her.
"I didn't think anyone would ring up, but I've had at least nine or 10 people calling about her. It's gone mad.
"There was no-one I knew - just people asking, 'Is she still available?'"
The couple only married last year, and Mr Bates said his 40-year-old wife - whom he advertised in the magazine's Free to Collect section, along with some of his fishing tackle - initially gave him "a bit of an ear-bashing".
But he said: "She's seen the funny side of it now though."
-AFP
Posted 1 hour 4 minutes ago
A British man fed up with his wife's complaints has advertised her for sale - and received a number of offers.
"Nagging Wife. No Tax, No MOT (ministry of transport test). Very high maintenance - some rust," wrote Gary Bates, 38, in a small ad in British classifieds magazine Trade-It, more usually used to buy and sell cars or household goods.
Mr Bates, a self-employed builder from Gloucestershire, south-west England, snapped after his wife Donna got on his nerves while she was watching television and decided to place the ad as a joke.
"She was nagging me for doing something small, while she was watching some rubbish on TV," he said.
"So I just thought I'd put an ad in to get rid of her.
"I didn't think anyone would ring up, but I've had at least nine or 10 people calling about her. It's gone mad.
"There was no-one I knew - just people asking, 'Is she still available?'"
The couple only married last year, and Mr Bates said his 40-year-old wife - whom he advertised in the magazine's Free to Collect section, along with some of his fishing tackle - initially gave him "a bit of an ear-bashing".
But he said: "She's seen the funny side of it now though."
-AFP
deathmazePosts: 3,010
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 2:58pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
What do you mean? Theyre black!
Exactly! If they kill eachother then we won't have to do it later
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 3:03pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The AFP's illicit drug intelligence program has found pills showing traces of heroin, LSD, rat poison and vets' anaesthetics.
75% chance of a great night there imo
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 3:11pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 3:14pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yeah I am not really a fan of LSD, lasts too long.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 3:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Two things: 1)Last I checked Heroin was too expensive to be wasting in pills; so in the unlikely event of this being an honest report, the producer is simply an idiot who is out of pocket. 2)Heroin doesn't work orally.
This is a positive for the AFP. Bad pills and poor producers leads to a decrease in demand and supply.
This is a positive for the AFP. Bad pills and poor producers leads to a decrease in demand and supply.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 3:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yeah I always laughed when people would say "oh these pills are cut hit H/Coke" etc
Nothing Bikies/Triads prefer doing that substituting MDMA for more expensive product
Nothing Bikies/Triads prefer doing that substituting MDMA for more expensive product
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 11:54amSubject: Re: In The News Today
OMG where is Noddy?!!!
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25199421-401,00.html
Lucy Baxter looking for volunteers to sleep with son Otto who has Down Syndrome
A MOTHER of a 21-year-old man with Down syndrome has gone public in her search for volunteers to help him lose his virginity.
Lucy Baxter says her son Otto wants to have sex for the first time and not only is she helping him find a woman, she says she is willing to pay for it.
"I'd like all my boys to find love and enjoy sex," Miss Baxter, who lives in Oxfordshire, UK and has four adopted sons with Downs syndrome, told the Daily Mail.
"I would have no problem paying for Otto to go to Amsterdam to visit a brothel if that's what he wanted but I dare say he could afford to pay for it himself."
Miss Baxter said she just wanted her son to have the same opportunities available to people without Down syndrome.
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"I strongly believe that society has a learning disability when it comes to Down syndrome," she told the Daily Mail.
"Why should these people be kept separate and pigeon-holed when they have the same emotions, desires and feelings as so called 'normal' people.
"He has the same expectations as everybody else. If he doesn't get a girlfriend, I will feel really bad, because I have sold him this thing that he is like everybody else."
Down Syndrome NSW chief executive Steve Clarke said that everyone faced barriers to finding love and that people with Down syndrome faced a few more.
"People with Down syndrome have high expectations from life these days and want to have lives that are fulfllling in many ways including in love," he said.
"It may not be something that people think about but they should be aware that people with Down syndrome have much the same feelings, emotions and instincts as we all do and love can be just as tough for them as it is for the rest of us."
The association ran regular workshops on sexuality which were always well attended, Mr Clarke said.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25199421-401,00.html
Lucy Baxter looking for volunteers to sleep with son Otto who has Down Syndrome
A MOTHER of a 21-year-old man with Down syndrome has gone public in her search for volunteers to help him lose his virginity.
Lucy Baxter says her son Otto wants to have sex for the first time and not only is she helping him find a woman, she says she is willing to pay for it.
"I'd like all my boys to find love and enjoy sex," Miss Baxter, who lives in Oxfordshire, UK and has four adopted sons with Downs syndrome, told the Daily Mail.
"I would have no problem paying for Otto to go to Amsterdam to visit a brothel if that's what he wanted but I dare say he could afford to pay for it himself."
Miss Baxter said she just wanted her son to have the same opportunities available to people without Down syndrome.
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"I strongly believe that society has a learning disability when it comes to Down syndrome," she told the Daily Mail.
"Why should these people be kept separate and pigeon-holed when they have the same emotions, desires and feelings as so called 'normal' people.
"He has the same expectations as everybody else. If he doesn't get a girlfriend, I will feel really bad, because I have sold him this thing that he is like everybody else."
Down Syndrome NSW chief executive Steve Clarke said that everyone faced barriers to finding love and that people with Down syndrome faced a few more.
"People with Down syndrome have high expectations from life these days and want to have lives that are fulfllling in many ways including in love," he said.
"It may not be something that people think about but they should be aware that people with Down syndrome have much the same feelings, emotions and instincts as we all do and love can be just as tough for them as it is for the rest of us."
The association ran regular workshops on sexuality which were always well attended, Mr Clarke said.
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 1:47pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Best. News. Ever!!!
Fingers crossed she finds a female downie and films it all.
There is nothing I want more in my life than downie porn.
Fingers crossed she finds a female downie and films it all.
There is nothing I want more in my life than downie porn.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 9:01pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fingers crossed she finds a female downie and films it all.
any real mother would!
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 8:01amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not sure whether I feel sorry for the cop or not... Awesome hip & shoulder though, would make Worsfold proud.
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A jury's verdict in an assault case has highlighted the need for communities to rally behind their police, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.
Mr Rudd said on Friday he had been shocked after arriving in Perth to see a newspaper report of a jury's decision to clear three men of any involvement in a pub brawl.
Perth policeman Matthew Butcher was left paralysed and with brain damage and sight impairment after he was knocked unconscious by a headbutt during a fracas outside the Joondalup Old Baily Tavern in February last year.
A jury on Thursday found Robert McLeod, 56, and his sons Barry McLeod, 29 and Scott McLeod, 35, not guilty on all counts of assaulting Constable Butcher.
Barry McLeod was alleged to have endangered the life of Constable Butcher by felling him with what prosecutors described as a "flying headbutt".
In the only guilty verdict against the men, Scott McLeod was found to have made threats to kill a civilian who recorded the incident on his mobile phone.
Family, friends and colleagues of Const Butcher say they are in a state of disbelief over the verdicts.
Mr Rudd said he was shocked by the front-page report of the jury verdict in the West Australian newspaper.
"I had to read it twice," he told Fairfax Radio Network.
He said while he was unfamiliar with details of the event, it was "a wake-up call" for communities to support their police force.
"Every police commissioner I've spoken to in the eastern states has told me how hard things are getting, and in the central business districts in particular," he said.
"What we have here is a wake-up call for people to rally behind police.
"They are doing a first-class job in the community and I think it's absolutely important we use this event as a focal point to rally behind our police."
He said police put themselves "in the front line every day, in very dangerous and difficult circumstances".
"Most (of these incidents) are never reported," Mr Rudd said.
"I think it's high time the community just got behind the police in absolutely everything they do.
"It's time we had a new attitude of respect for the police because they are dealing with the problems of violence, domestic violence and alcohol-induced violence of binge drinking."
He was a long-standing supporter of the jury system, but that "errors occurred from time to time in the administration of justice".
"That's not a comment I make in reference to any particular case," he said."
"... but we need to focus again on this extraordinary event, and use it to focus on what we can do more to protect our police on the beat."
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A jury's verdict in an assault case has highlighted the need for communities to rally behind their police, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.
Mr Rudd said on Friday he had been shocked after arriving in Perth to see a newspaper report of a jury's decision to clear three men of any involvement in a pub brawl.
Perth policeman Matthew Butcher was left paralysed and with brain damage and sight impairment after he was knocked unconscious by a headbutt during a fracas outside the Joondalup Old Baily Tavern in February last year.
A jury on Thursday found Robert McLeod, 56, and his sons Barry McLeod, 29 and Scott McLeod, 35, not guilty on all counts of assaulting Constable Butcher.
Barry McLeod was alleged to have endangered the life of Constable Butcher by felling him with what prosecutors described as a "flying headbutt".
In the only guilty verdict against the men, Scott McLeod was found to have made threats to kill a civilian who recorded the incident on his mobile phone.
Family, friends and colleagues of Const Butcher say they are in a state of disbelief over the verdicts.
Mr Rudd said he was shocked by the front-page report of the jury verdict in the West Australian newspaper.
"I had to read it twice," he told Fairfax Radio Network.
He said while he was unfamiliar with details of the event, it was "a wake-up call" for communities to support their police force.
"Every police commissioner I've spoken to in the eastern states has told me how hard things are getting, and in the central business districts in particular," he said.
"What we have here is a wake-up call for people to rally behind police.
"They are doing a first-class job in the community and I think it's absolutely important we use this event as a focal point to rally behind our police."
He said police put themselves "in the front line every day, in very dangerous and difficult circumstances".
"Most (of these incidents) are never reported," Mr Rudd said.
"I think it's high time the community just got behind the police in absolutely everything they do.
"It's time we had a new attitude of respect for the police because they are dealing with the problems of violence, domestic violence and alcohol-induced violence of binge drinking."
He was a long-standing supporter of the jury system, but that "errors occurred from time to time in the administration of justice".
"That's not a comment I make in reference to any particular case," he said."
"... but we need to focus again on this extraordinary event, and use it to focus on what we can do more to protect our police on the beat."
99 predicaments...
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 10:11amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Power tool sex toy wounds woman
I heard about this. She was left with a nasty gash apparently.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 11:02amSubject: Re: In The News Today
boom tish
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 11:30amSubject: Re: In The News Today
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 12:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
WTF were these crazy people thinking?
Power tool sex toy lands Maryland woman in hospital
By staff writers
NEWS.com.au
SOME sexual experimentation landed an American woman in a hospital with injuries tough to imagine and even more difficult to forget.
The Maryland woman was flown to hospital on Monday after she was injured in the incident involving a sex toy attached to a sabre saw blade, according to NBCWashington.com.
The man who called 911 about the incident admitted attaching the sex toy to the saw and then using the high-powered, homemade device on his partner, the St Mary's County Sheriff's Office said.
NBCWashington.com reported the saw cut through the plastic toy and wounded the woman.
The injuries were severe enough for her to be flown to hospital but she was released on Tuesday.
NBCWashington.com said the woman told police she suffered the injuries during a consensual act and that she and her partner were trying something new and no crime was committed.
Power tool sex toy lands Maryland woman in hospital
By staff writers
NEWS.com.au
SOME sexual experimentation landed an American woman in a hospital with injuries tough to imagine and even more difficult to forget.
The Maryland woman was flown to hospital on Monday after she was injured in the incident involving a sex toy attached to a sabre saw blade, according to NBCWashington.com.
The man who called 911 about the incident admitted attaching the sex toy to the saw and then using the high-powered, homemade device on his partner, the St Mary's County Sheriff's Office said.
NBCWashington.com reported the saw cut through the plastic toy and wounded the woman.
The injuries were severe enough for her to be flown to hospital but she was released on Tuesday.
NBCWashington.com said the woman told police she suffered the injuries during a consensual act and that she and her partner were trying something new and no crime was committed.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 12:25pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
However... if this machine could actually work.....imagine the possibilities!
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 12:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
However... if this machine could actually work.....imagine the possibilities!
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 12:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 7:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not sure whether I feel sorry for the cop or not... Awesome hip & shoulder though, would make Worsfold proud.
That's bullshit! How do you paralize a police officer, have it filmed and get away with it?! Poor bastard was just trying to do his job and keep the peace.
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 7:50pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Thanks Andy.Lesbian arrested for allegedly attempting to forcibly inseminate wife with turkey baster
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March 18, 2009 04:18pm
A WOMAN in a lesbian marriage has been arrested in the US after allegedly attempting to forcibly inject her brother's sperm into her wife.
Stephanie Lighten, 26, allegedly threw her wife Jennifer Lighten, 33, on a couch in the couple's home in Pittsfield, Massachusetts and threatened to impregnate her with "a turkey baster" filled with semen from Stephanie's brother kept in a sealed container, letzgetreal.com reports.
The "turkey baster" was a large syringe with a catheter tip, according to police who confiscated it.
They also confiscated a container of semen donated by Stephanie's brother, Nicholas Lighten, and some aluminium that also apparently had contained the semen.
According to Jennifer she struggled with a "liquored up” Stephanie on the couch who grabbed at Jennifer's clothes.
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Jennifer ran to the bathroom and locked herself in but allegedly Stephanie broke down the door.
Jennifer then fled from the house and started to drive away in the couple's 4WD vehicle but was halted when Stephanie jumped on the side of the car.
A witness at the scene claimed Stephanie “was hanging on the SUV door handle, trying to get into the car".
Police arrived and arrested Stephanie.
Jennifer Lighten has declined to press attempted rape charges because she does not believe Stephanie seriously intended to impregnate her.
Stephanie been charged with domestic assault and will be required to attend the Central Berkshire District Court on April 29 for a pre-trial hearing.
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 8:07pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
That's bullshit! How do you paralize a police officer, have it filmed and get away with it?! Poor bastard was just trying to do his job and keep the peace.
Yeah, not being able to feel empathy for someone who sustained injuries that left him permanently paralysed and mentally impaired, just because they are a police officer, shows a puerile disdain for authority figures.
I make it a habit to not form too many opinions about verdicts, as I am well aware that the media never represents any of the complexities of a case, but I cannot see how you could regard the police man in such a negative light given the few details that have been presented.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 9:21pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Yea, I agree with not forming opinions as you don't know the details, but it just seems ludicrous that guy got off.
I wasn't having a go at unregistured either, but like you said, I don't know how you can not feel sorry for the guy. Why cause he's a cop?
I wasn't having a go at unregistured either, but like you said, I don't know how you can not feel sorry for the guy. Why cause he's a cop?
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 10:29pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
From what i read the guy jumped at the cop due to the cop tasering his dad which had a heart problem it caused his dad to die but the cops revived him.
Also they spent over 500 grand on lawyers for the case
Also they spent over 500 grand on lawyers for the case
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 10:50pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
From what i read the guy jumped at the cop due to the cop tasering his dad which had a heart problem it caused his dad to die but the cops revived him.
Also they spent over 500 grand on lawyers for the case
So what?
Tasering looked pretty acceptable given the situation. Those cunts were going nuts.
If someone has heart problems they should probably stay away from situations like that.
Anyway - Can't really judge unless you're there but I would hate to be a cop in the world we live in these days.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 10:53pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Hmm... I know, stop fighting with the police and do as you're fucking told before a cop has to pull out the taser in the first place..? There was clearly no chance to judge whether the dad was actually in any serious trouble. Well, any more trouble than the average tase anyway! It's bloody wrong that anyone could get off for a tackle like that regardless of whatever led up to it.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 11:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
If someone has heart problems they should probably stay away from situations like that.
Excatly.
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 11:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not sure whether I feel sorry for the cop or not... Awesome hip & shoulder though, would make Worsfold proud.
As the proud son of a former police officer of 40 years dedicated service I do not feel in the slighest bit sorry about saying "You'll get yours you cunt"
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 11:42pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
I must say, I don't think unregisturd was having a go at the cop in any way shape or form.
Had the situation been different, and without thinking of the consequences that resulted, it was a pretty decent lay down.
Had the situation been different, and without thinking of the consequences that resulted, it was a pretty decent lay down.
Get off my lawn.
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 3:10amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not sure whether I feel sorry for the cop or not... Awesome hip & shoulder though, would make Worsfold proud.
What part of this doesn't sound like making light of the fact a police officer has been assaulted by a pack of thugs and left paralysed for the rest of his life. All for doing his job in trying to protect the public.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 7:11amSubject: Re: In The News Today
What part of this doesn't sound like making light of the fact a police officer has been assaulted by a pack of thugs and left paralysed for the rest of his life. All for doing his job in trying to protect the public.
You need to be a little less thensthitive.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 7:24amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Thanks for the tip.
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 8:16amSubject: Re: In The News Today
As the proud son of a former police officer of 40 years dedicated service I do not feel in the slighest bit sorry about saying "You'll get yours you cunt"
i dont want to make light of this situation (nor yours) either, but we cant exactly pretend that all cops have a completely clean sheet, have never acted like thugs and have never paralysed or even killed innocent people before.
christ, one of my colleagues left the police force because he said he was too regularly sickened by the behaviour of other cops. the peverse delight taken in 'sticking the boot in' was all a little too common for him. maybe they just dont make cops like they used to
and no offence, but maybe someone on the receiving end of one of those beatdown sessions decided "you'll get yours cunt" too.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 9:23amSubject: Re: In The News Today
I believe everybody who has responded is well aware that this was Unregisturd's implication. Due to the non existence of evidence offered against the cops character, the implication appears to be resigning every police officer to guilt via association. Which is still nothing more than puerile mindedness. I say this as someone who has experienced many absurd moments of misplaced testosterone from cops.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 10:59amSubject: Re: In The News Today
christ, one of my colleagues left the police force because he said he was too regularly sickened by the behaviour of other cops.
But the guy is utterly insane...
I mean, he went from primary school teaching to the police force in the first place because he couldn't handle kids (or possibly the fact he was unable to shoot them)
But do say hi to Simon from me though
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 12:41pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
But the guy is utterly insane...
I mean, he went from primary school teaching to the police force in the first place because he couldn't handle kids (or possibly the fact he was unable to shoot them)
But do say hi to Simon from me though
he is a nutter, but a kind hearted one with a not so secret love of asian porn he had some great stories about the times working as a
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Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 12:44pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Michelle Owen charged with bestiality over dog sex video
Article from: The Advertiser
March 22, 2009 11:10am
A WOMAN demanded police search for computer for evidence her ex-boyfriend had looked at child porn - instead they found videos of her having sex with a dog.
Michelle Owen, 24, of Indiana in the United States, has been charged with two felony counts of bestiality after the police found two incriminating videos in the computer's recycle bin.
When an officer told Owen he had found videos of her on the laptop and asked if she knew what they were, she replied: "The one with the dog."
The videos showed her engaging in a sexual act with her pet beagle Toby.
Owen claimed she made the videos when she was drunk and tried to delete them the next day.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 2:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oh fuck that's great!! hahaha what a dumb bitch...
Man has finger replaced with USB drive
A computer programmer has had his finger replaced with a USB drive.
Jerry Jalava, of Finland, says the two-gigabyte prosthetic finger is not permanently attached to his hand, allowing him to leave his finger in the computer slot and "pick it up after I'm ready".
The silicon prosthetic looks like a normal finger, but can be peeled back at the tip to reveal the USB drive.
Jalava, who lost his finger in a motorcycle accident, uses the drive as storage for "photos, movies and other useful files".
"When Jerry told doctors what he did for a living they joked he should have a USB 'finger drive' but that was good enough for him, and he set about making one," a newspaper reported.
http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/man-has-finger-replaced-usb-drive-2570969
I think that's a fucking awesome idea...looks pretty weird though!
Man has finger replaced with USB drive
A computer programmer has had his finger replaced with a USB drive.
Jerry Jalava, of Finland, says the two-gigabyte prosthetic finger is not permanently attached to his hand, allowing him to leave his finger in the computer slot and "pick it up after I'm ready".
The silicon prosthetic looks like a normal finger, but can be peeled back at the tip to reveal the USB drive.
Jalava, who lost his finger in a motorcycle accident, uses the drive as storage for "photos, movies and other useful files".
"When Jerry told doctors what he did for a living they joked he should have a USB 'finger drive' but that was good enough for him, and he set about making one," a newspaper reported.
http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/man-has-finger-replaced-usb-drive-2570969
I think that's a fucking awesome idea...looks pretty weird though!
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 3:12pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
someone turned a gun on themself at marksman indoor range franklin st today.
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 3:14pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Jesus!
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 3:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
they had the street blocked off earlier today. one of our delivery guys went to go inside but got told to come back tomorrow.
thats 2 in a few months. a girl did the same thing not long ago
thats 2 in a few months. a girl did the same thing not long ago
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 3:19pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
hmmmm..... that's just near where i work too... complex thoughts surrounding both those incidents i'm sure
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 4:20pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
they had the street blocked off earlier today. one of our delivery guys went to go inside but got told to come back tomorrow.
thats 2 in a few months. a girl did the same thing not long ago
we had been planning to go there ourselves today, so lucky our plans changed i guess.
gotta feel for the poor bastards who work there and have to deal with this.
in other news:
Teen paints giant penis on his parents' roof
A STUDENT has some scrubbing to do after his parents discovered he'd painted an 18m-long penis on their roof to get his home noticed on Google Earth.
Rory McInnes, 18, decided to make his family home stand out after watching a documentary about Google Earth.
Armed with a tin of white paint, he climbed on top of the $2 million home in Berkshire, south east England, and set to work.
His artwork remained unnoticed for 12 months until a helicopter pilot spotted it and swooped down low so his passengers could take photos.
Dad Andy thought it was a prank call when a British newspaper contacted him about the painting this week.
"It's an April Fool's joke, right? There's no way there's a 60ft phallus on top of my house,'' Mr McInnes told The Sun.
He confronted his four children, finding his answers when he reached Rory over the phone in Brazil.
Part-way through gap-year travels, Rory could not hold back his laughter as he confessed: "Oh, so you've found it then.''
The image has been compared to the Cerne Abbas Giant, a 55m-high naked figure carved into the hill at Dorset which is said to attract couples seeking to have children.
Mum Clare said: "We don't want any more children, so the idea of sleeping under a giant fertility symbol is rather worrying.''
Mr McInnes added: "We don't want to lie in bed at night and hear couples at it above us.
"When Rory gets home he will be given a scrubbing brush and white spirit and he can go and scrub it off.''
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 4:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
someone turned a gun on themself at marksman indoor range franklin st today.
Jesus!
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 4:36pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Get off my lawn.
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 6:22pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
His knob to shaft ratio is terrible.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 7:19amSubject: Re: In The News Today
shrunken balls too, steroids are bad.
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 10:08amSubject: Re: In The News Today
Speaking of idiots, turns out that 13 year baby faced kid isn't the father of that baby...
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 1:38pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html
The 17 minute video footage is on the site if anyone is interested.
Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital
06:13 AM CDT on Friday, March 27, 2009
By STEVE THOMPSON and TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
As a storm of outrage gathered over his department, Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle called a news conference Thursday to apologize for the behavior of an officer who detained a distressed family outside a hospital emergency room.
Kunkle said Officer Robert Powell had been placed on paid administrative leave in connection with the incident last week, in which he stopped a family rushing to visit a dying mother, keeping them for 13 minutes to write a traffic ticket. The woman died before two of the family members were able to see her.
"I am embarrassed and disappointed by the behavior of one of our police officers," the chief told a packed audience of media outlets that included Inside Edition. "His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit."
During the traffic stop, caught on the officer's in-car camera, Powell berated the driver, 26-year-old NFL running back Ryan Moats, and threatened him with arrest for running a traffic light.
After seeing the video earlier this week, several senior police commanders knew they had a public relations crisis on their hands. A Plano police officer who was present at the March 17 incident had reported it to a superior, who had reported it to a Dallas police supervisor.
After news of the video broke late Wednesday, irate calls and e-mails started spilling into police headquarters.
Shortly before 9 a.m. Thursday, at the department's weekly crime meeting, many members of the command staff viewed the video for the first time. The reaction was one of disbelief and head shaking, said several who were present.
"People were just quiet," said Assistant Chief Floyd Simpson, who oversees the city's seven patrol stations. "Just, 'Oh, my God, I can't believe what I just saw.' "
Kunkle took the podium hours later in front of a dozen news cameras. At one point, he seemed to restrain himself from being too candid with his views on the incident.
"When we in the command staff reviewed the tapes," he said, "we were embarrassed, disappointed – it's hard to find the right words and still be professional in my role as a police chief."
The chief also praised Moats and his family for how they handled the officer's behavior.
"They exercised extraordinary patience, restraint, dealing with the behavior of our officer," Kunkle said. "At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration. He handled himself very, very well."
The video shows what happened after Moats, who plays for the Houston Texans, rolled through a red light in Dallas en route to Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano. Powell switched on his lights and sirens, caught up to the family's SUV, and followed for about 20 seconds as they found a parking spot near the hospital's emergency entrance.
Moats' mother-in-law, 45-year-old Jonetta Collinsworth, had been struggling with breast cancer. That night family members received word that they needed to hurry to the hospital because she was dying.
"You really want to go through this right now?" Moats pleaded to Powell. "My mother-in-law is dying. Right now!"
An argument followed, during which Powell lectured Moats and threatened him with arrest.
Kunkle acknowledged Thursday that Powell also drew his gun at the start of the incident.
"I understand that he admits to drawing his gun but not pointing it," the chief said.
Moats' wife, Tamishia Moats, has said otherwise.
"He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car," she said. The video shows her pleading with him a moment, then ignoring him and walking into the hospital with her great-aunt.
Kunkle said that for Powell to draw his gun at first may be defensible. The SUV had not immediately stopped for him. People were piling out of it. The situation was uncertain.
"But as quickly as possible, he should have holstered his gun and apologized, once he found out what the circumstances were," Kunkle said, "and then tried to accommodate the Moatses the best he could getting access into the hospital."
Instead, Powell spent long minutes exercising his authority over Ryan Moats, whose grandfather-in-law – the father of the dying woman – stayed behind with him out of concern for his safety, the family has said.
Powell, 25, has not returned calls. He has defended his actions to department officials.
"My understanding is that Officer Powell, even when he saw the videotape, believed he had not acted inappropriately," Kunkle said.
As the video reached a national audience Thursday, featured among other places on the home page of Yahoo.com, it became clear that many people disagreed. Thousands of comments poured onto The Dallas Morning News' Web site, most of them singling out Powell for derision.
"The majority of the comments reflect my position," said Kunkle, "that at the point the officer was told that they were responding to a dying family member, that should have been his concern: to allow those people to get access to that family member."
Police officials have contacted the Moats family to apologize, asked that the ticket be dismissed, and posted a statement of remorse on the department's Web page.
Asked at Thursday's news conference what officers are trained to do in such a situation, Kunkle said even someone with no police training should have known better than to do what Powell did.
"I don't know how you train for these circumstances, other than to hire people with common sense and good people skills," he said.
Department officials say the now-infamous video will likely make its way into the police academy's training curriculum.
Kunkle said the internal investigation against Powell will focus on conduct reflecting poorly on the department, as well as making unwarranted threats of arrest.
Powell also faces investigation for comments he made to another officer after the incident ended – while the video camera was still rolling. He said he "worded" a report in such a way as to justify a January police chase.
"It appears, what he said, to have been contrary to our pursuit policy," Kunkle said, "to where he may have lied about the circumstances under which the pursuit began."
The chief said any one of the charges could lead to dismissal.
stevethompson@dallasnews.com; teiserer@dallasnews.com
WHAT THEY SAID: The traffic stop
Excerpts from Officer Robert Powell and Ryan Moats:
Moats: You really want to go through this right now? My mother-in-law is dying. Right now! ... I got seconds before she's dying, man!
Powell: If my mom was dying I'd probably be a little upset too, but when I saw flashing red and blues, I would stop.
Moats: Did I not stop at the red light?
Powell: You stopped, then you drove through the red light.
Moats: I stopped, I checked the traffic, I waved the traffic off, then I turned.
Powell: This is not an emergency vehicle. You do not have the right to control the traffic.
Moats: OK. All right ... just go ahead and check my insurance so I can go ahead and go. If you're gonna give me a ticket, give me a ticket. I really don't care, just ...
Powell: Your attitude says that you need one.
Moats: I don't have an attitude. All I'm asking you is just to hurry up. Cause you're standing here talking to me...
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen.
Moats: Shut my mouth? Is that how you talk to me, too?
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen. If you want to keep this going, I'll just put you in handcuffs, and I'll take you to jail for running a red light.
Moats: OK. All right.
Powell: I can do that.
Moats: OK.
Powell: State law says I can.
Moats: Yes, sir. Go ahead.
Powell: If you don't settle down that's what I'm gonna do.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: All right, If you don't settle down, your truck's illegally parked – I'll tow that as well.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I can screw you over. I'd rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens, and right now, your attitude sucks.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I turned my red and blues on as you were going over the bridge ...
Moats: You think I'm gonna stop when my wife's mother is dying?
Powell: You are required to stop. What you're doing does not matter. Red and blues, you have to stop. I can charge you with fleeing right now.
Moats: Yes, sir. ...
Powell: I can take you to jail. I can tow your truck. I can charge you with fleeing.
Moats: Yes, sir, you can. I understand.
Powell: I can make your night very difficult.
Moats: I hope you'll be a great person and not do that.
The 17 minute video footage is on the site if anyone is interested.
Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital
06:13 AM CDT on Friday, March 27, 2009
By STEVE THOMPSON and TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
As a storm of outrage gathered over his department, Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle called a news conference Thursday to apologize for the behavior of an officer who detained a distressed family outside a hospital emergency room.
Kunkle said Officer Robert Powell had been placed on paid administrative leave in connection with the incident last week, in which he stopped a family rushing to visit a dying mother, keeping them for 13 minutes to write a traffic ticket. The woman died before two of the family members were able to see her.
"I am embarrassed and disappointed by the behavior of one of our police officers," the chief told a packed audience of media outlets that included Inside Edition. "His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit."
During the traffic stop, caught on the officer's in-car camera, Powell berated the driver, 26-year-old NFL running back Ryan Moats, and threatened him with arrest for running a traffic light.
After seeing the video earlier this week, several senior police commanders knew they had a public relations crisis on their hands. A Plano police officer who was present at the March 17 incident had reported it to a superior, who had reported it to a Dallas police supervisor.
After news of the video broke late Wednesday, irate calls and e-mails started spilling into police headquarters.
Shortly before 9 a.m. Thursday, at the department's weekly crime meeting, many members of the command staff viewed the video for the first time. The reaction was one of disbelief and head shaking, said several who were present.
"People were just quiet," said Assistant Chief Floyd Simpson, who oversees the city's seven patrol stations. "Just, 'Oh, my God, I can't believe what I just saw.' "
Kunkle took the podium hours later in front of a dozen news cameras. At one point, he seemed to restrain himself from being too candid with his views on the incident.
"When we in the command staff reviewed the tapes," he said, "we were embarrassed, disappointed – it's hard to find the right words and still be professional in my role as a police chief."
The chief also praised Moats and his family for how they handled the officer's behavior.
"They exercised extraordinary patience, restraint, dealing with the behavior of our officer," Kunkle said. "At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration. He handled himself very, very well."
The video shows what happened after Moats, who plays for the Houston Texans, rolled through a red light in Dallas en route to Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano. Powell switched on his lights and sirens, caught up to the family's SUV, and followed for about 20 seconds as they found a parking spot near the hospital's emergency entrance.
Moats' mother-in-law, 45-year-old Jonetta Collinsworth, had been struggling with breast cancer. That night family members received word that they needed to hurry to the hospital because she was dying.
"You really want to go through this right now?" Moats pleaded to Powell. "My mother-in-law is dying. Right now!"
An argument followed, during which Powell lectured Moats and threatened him with arrest.
Kunkle acknowledged Thursday that Powell also drew his gun at the start of the incident.
"I understand that he admits to drawing his gun but not pointing it," the chief said.
Moats' wife, Tamishia Moats, has said otherwise.
"He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car," she said. The video shows her pleading with him a moment, then ignoring him and walking into the hospital with her great-aunt.
Kunkle said that for Powell to draw his gun at first may be defensible. The SUV had not immediately stopped for him. People were piling out of it. The situation was uncertain.
"But as quickly as possible, he should have holstered his gun and apologized, once he found out what the circumstances were," Kunkle said, "and then tried to accommodate the Moatses the best he could getting access into the hospital."
Instead, Powell spent long minutes exercising his authority over Ryan Moats, whose grandfather-in-law – the father of the dying woman – stayed behind with him out of concern for his safety, the family has said.
Powell, 25, has not returned calls. He has defended his actions to department officials.
"My understanding is that Officer Powell, even when he saw the videotape, believed he had not acted inappropriately," Kunkle said.
As the video reached a national audience Thursday, featured among other places on the home page of Yahoo.com, it became clear that many people disagreed. Thousands of comments poured onto The Dallas Morning News' Web site, most of them singling out Powell for derision.
"The majority of the comments reflect my position," said Kunkle, "that at the point the officer was told that they were responding to a dying family member, that should have been his concern: to allow those people to get access to that family member."
Police officials have contacted the Moats family to apologize, asked that the ticket be dismissed, and posted a statement of remorse on the department's Web page.
Asked at Thursday's news conference what officers are trained to do in such a situation, Kunkle said even someone with no police training should have known better than to do what Powell did.
"I don't know how you train for these circumstances, other than to hire people with common sense and good people skills," he said.
Department officials say the now-infamous video will likely make its way into the police academy's training curriculum.
Kunkle said the internal investigation against Powell will focus on conduct reflecting poorly on the department, as well as making unwarranted threats of arrest.
Powell also faces investigation for comments he made to another officer after the incident ended – while the video camera was still rolling. He said he "worded" a report in such a way as to justify a January police chase.
"It appears, what he said, to have been contrary to our pursuit policy," Kunkle said, "to where he may have lied about the circumstances under which the pursuit began."
The chief said any one of the charges could lead to dismissal.
stevethompson@dallasnews.com; teiserer@dallasnews.com
WHAT THEY SAID: The traffic stop
Excerpts from Officer Robert Powell and Ryan Moats:
Moats: You really want to go through this right now? My mother-in-law is dying. Right now! ... I got seconds before she's dying, man!
Powell: If my mom was dying I'd probably be a little upset too, but when I saw flashing red and blues, I would stop.
Moats: Did I not stop at the red light?
Powell: You stopped, then you drove through the red light.
Moats: I stopped, I checked the traffic, I waved the traffic off, then I turned.
Powell: This is not an emergency vehicle. You do not have the right to control the traffic.
Moats: OK. All right ... just go ahead and check my insurance so I can go ahead and go. If you're gonna give me a ticket, give me a ticket. I really don't care, just ...
Powell: Your attitude says that you need one.
Moats: I don't have an attitude. All I'm asking you is just to hurry up. Cause you're standing here talking to me...
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen.
Moats: Shut my mouth? Is that how you talk to me, too?
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen. If you want to keep this going, I'll just put you in handcuffs, and I'll take you to jail for running a red light.
Moats: OK. All right.
Powell: I can do that.
Moats: OK.
Powell: State law says I can.
Moats: Yes, sir. Go ahead.
Powell: If you don't settle down that's what I'm gonna do.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: All right, If you don't settle down, your truck's illegally parked – I'll tow that as well.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I can screw you over. I'd rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens, and right now, your attitude sucks.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I turned my red and blues on as you were going over the bridge ...
Moats: You think I'm gonna stop when my wife's mother is dying?
Powell: You are required to stop. What you're doing does not matter. Red and blues, you have to stop. I can charge you with fleeing right now.
Moats: Yes, sir. ...
Powell: I can take you to jail. I can tow your truck. I can charge you with fleeing.
Moats: Yes, sir, you can. I understand.
Powell: I can make your night very difficult.
Moats: I hope you'll be a great person and not do that.
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Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 2:16pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html
The 17 minute video footage is on the site if anyone is interested.
Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital
06:13 AM CDT on Friday, March 27, 2009
By STEVE THOMPSON and TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
As a storm of outrage gathered over his department, Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle called a news conference Thursday to apologize for the behavior of an officer who detained a distressed family outside a hospital emergency room.
Kunkle said Officer Robert Powell had been placed on paid administrative leave in connection with the incident last week, in which he stopped a family rushing to visit a dying mother, keeping them for 13 minutes to write a traffic ticket. The woman died before two of the family members were able to see her.
"I am embarrassed and disappointed by the behavior of one of our police officers," the chief told a packed audience of media outlets that included Inside Edition. "His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit."
During the traffic stop, caught on the officer's in-car camera, Powell berated the driver, 26-year-old NFL running back Ryan Moats, and threatened him with arrest for running a traffic light.
After seeing the video earlier this week, several senior police commanders knew they had a public relations crisis on their hands. A Plano police officer who was present at the March 17 incident had reported it to a superior, who had reported it to a Dallas police supervisor.
After news of the video broke late Wednesday, irate calls and e-mails started spilling into police headquarters.
Shortly before 9 a.m. Thursday, at the department's weekly crime meeting, many members of the command staff viewed the video for the first time. The reaction was one of disbelief and head shaking, said several who were present.
"People were just quiet," said Assistant Chief Floyd Simpson, who oversees the city's seven patrol stations. "Just, 'Oh, my God, I can't believe what I just saw.' "
Kunkle took the podium hours later in front of a dozen news cameras. At one point, he seemed to restrain himself from being too candid with his views on the incident.
"When we in the command staff reviewed the tapes," he said, "we were embarrassed, disappointed – it's hard to find the right words and still be professional in my role as a police chief."
The chief also praised Moats and his family for how they handled the officer's behavior.
"They exercised extraordinary patience, restraint, dealing with the behavior of our officer," Kunkle said. "At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration. He handled himself very, very well."
The video shows what happened after Moats, who plays for the Houston Texans, rolled through a red light in Dallas en route to Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano. Powell switched on his lights and sirens, caught up to the family's SUV, and followed for about 20 seconds as they found a parking spot near the hospital's emergency entrance.
Moats' mother-in-law, 45-year-old Jonetta Collinsworth, had been struggling with breast cancer. That night family members received word that they needed to hurry to the hospital because she was dying.
"You really want to go through this right now?" Moats pleaded to Powell. "My mother-in-law is dying. Right now!"
An argument followed, during which Powell lectured Moats and threatened him with arrest.
Kunkle acknowledged Thursday that Powell also drew his gun at the start of the incident.
"I understand that he admits to drawing his gun but not pointing it," the chief said.
Moats' wife, Tamishia Moats, has said otherwise.
"He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car," she said. The video shows her pleading with him a moment, then ignoring him and walking into the hospital with her great-aunt.
Kunkle said that for Powell to draw his gun at first may be defensible. The SUV had not immediately stopped for him. People were piling out of it. The situation was uncertain.
"But as quickly as possible, he should have holstered his gun and apologized, once he found out what the circumstances were," Kunkle said, "and then tried to accommodate the Moatses the best he could getting access into the hospital."
Instead, Powell spent long minutes exercising his authority over Ryan Moats, whose grandfather-in-law – the father of the dying woman – stayed behind with him out of concern for his safety, the family has said.
Powell, 25, has not returned calls. He has defended his actions to department officials.
"My understanding is that Officer Powell, even when he saw the videotape, believed he had not acted inappropriately," Kunkle said.
As the video reached a national audience Thursday, featured among other places on the home page of Yahoo.com, it became clear that many people disagreed. Thousands of comments poured onto The Dallas Morning News' Web site, most of them singling out Powell for derision.
"The majority of the comments reflect my position," said Kunkle, "that at the point the officer was told that they were responding to a dying family member, that should have been his concern: to allow those people to get access to that family member."
Police officials have contacted the Moats family to apologize, asked that the ticket be dismissed, and posted a statement of remorse on the department's Web page.
Asked at Thursday's news conference what officers are trained to do in such a situation, Kunkle said even someone with no police training should have known better than to do what Powell did.
"I don't know how you train for these circumstances, other than to hire people with common sense and good people skills," he said.
Department officials say the now-infamous video will likely make its way into the police academy's training curriculum.
Kunkle said the internal investigation against Powell will focus on conduct reflecting poorly on the department, as well as making unwarranted threats of arrest.
Powell also faces investigation for comments he made to another officer after the incident ended – while the video camera was still rolling. He said he "worded" a report in such a way as to justify a January police chase.
"It appears, what he said, to have been contrary to our pursuit policy," Kunkle said, "to where he may have lied about the circumstances under which the pursuit began."
The chief said any one of the charges could lead to dismissal.
stevethompson@dallasnews.com; teiserer@dallasnews.com
WHAT THEY SAID: The traffic stop
Excerpts from Officer Robert Powell and Ryan Moats:
Moats: You really want to go through this right now? My mother-in-law is dying. Right now! ... I got seconds before she's dying, man!
Powell: If my mom was dying I'd probably be a little upset too, but when I saw flashing red and blues, I would stop.
Moats: Did I not stop at the red light?
Powell: You stopped, then you drove through the red light.
Moats: I stopped, I checked the traffic, I waved the traffic off, then I turned.
Powell: This is not an emergency vehicle. You do not have the right to control the traffic.
Moats: OK. All right ... just go ahead and check my insurance so I can go ahead and go. If you're gonna give me a ticket, give me a ticket. I really don't care, just ...
Powell: Your attitude says that you need one.
Moats: I don't have an attitude. All I'm asking you is just to hurry up. Cause you're standing here talking to me...
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen.
Moats: Shut my mouth? Is that how you talk to me, too?
Powell: Shut your mouth and listen. If you want to keep this going, I'll just put you in handcuffs, and I'll take you to jail for running a red light.
Moats: OK. All right.
Powell: I can do that.
Moats: OK.
Powell: State law says I can.
Moats: Yes, sir. Go ahead.
Powell: If you don't settle down that's what I'm gonna do.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: All right, If you don't settle down, your truck's illegally parked – I'll tow that as well.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I can screw you over. I'd rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens, and right now, your attitude sucks.
Moats: Yes, sir.
Powell: OK, I turned my red and blues on as you were going over the bridge ...
Moats: You think I'm gonna stop when my wife's mother is dying?
Powell: You are required to stop. What you're doing does not matter. Red and blues, you have to stop. I can charge you with fleeing right now.
Moats: Yes, sir. ...
Powell: I can take you to jail. I can tow your truck. I can charge you with fleeing.
Moats: Yes, sir, you can. I understand.
Powell: I can make your night very difficult.
Moats: I hope you'll be a great person and not do that.
wow, amazing restraint on his behalf
curious-has the "OMG THAT'S RACIST!!" card been played yet?
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 2:30pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
wow, amazing restraint on his behalf
curious-has the "OMG THAT'S RACIST!!" card been played yet?
It has in fact been over-played. It is possible that the cop is racist, but lacking any current evidence it tends to be obscuring the fact that the cop is certainly a power loving moron a little too often in media debates.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 6:23pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
on a slightly lighter note...
Pimp paid 'prostitute with chicken nuggets'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25264768-29277,00.html
A MAN who pimped a 16-year-old schoolgirl paid her with chicken nuggets for having sex with men, a court has been told.
Ronald Vikash Gander, 27, and his 16-year-old girlfriend devised a plan to prostitute a teenage girl so they could afford the weekly $1050 rent on a serviced inner-Brisbane apartment, the Brisbane District Court was told today.
The court was told the girl made $4500 for having sex with five middle-aged men in June last year.
Gander and his girlfriend used the money for living expenses and paid the girl nothing except for the occasional box of chicken nuggets.
(the headline is obviously a lot funnier than the news article itself)
Pimp paid 'prostitute with chicken nuggets'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25264768-29277,00.html
A MAN who pimped a 16-year-old schoolgirl paid her with chicken nuggets for having sex with men, a court has been told.
Ronald Vikash Gander, 27, and his 16-year-old girlfriend devised a plan to prostitute a teenage girl so they could afford the weekly $1050 rent on a serviced inner-Brisbane apartment, the Brisbane District Court was told today.
The court was told the girl made $4500 for having sex with five middle-aged men in June last year.
Gander and his girlfriend used the money for living expenses and paid the girl nothing except for the occasional box of chicken nuggets.
(the headline is obviously a lot funnier than the news article itself)
QuazzaPosts: 13,628
Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 6:28pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
The court was told the girl made $4500 for having sex with five middle-aged men in June last year.
not bad!!!
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 1:59pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Did anyone else get the e-mail about the python eating the farmers sheep?
*shudder*
fake?
*shudder*
fake?
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,699
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 2:00pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-03-30-voa66.cfm
Canadian Researchers Uncover China-Based Electronic Spying Operation
By Brian Padden
Washington
30 March 2009
Canadian researchers say they have uncovered a China-based electronic spying operation that infiltrated computers in 103 countries. While they say they have no conclusive evidence of Chinese government involvement, the targets of the computer espionage were political. The cyber spying operation is one of the biggest and most sophisticated ever discovered.
Researchers at the University of Toronto call it Ghostnet - an electronic spying operation that infiltrated more than 1,000 computers around the world. They say it targeted NATO, the Indian Embassy here in Washington and Tibetan exile centers in India, Brussels and London. Researchers say that in addition to stealing computer files, the cyber spies could turn on the internal camera on a remote computer to eavesdrop on live conversations.
Nart Villeneuve is with the University of Toronto's Munk Center for International Studies. He says that while the operation was sophisticated in its organization and scope, it used readily available Internet viruses called Trojans, attached to email messages to infiltrate computers.
"From a purely technical point of view, no, it was not that sophisticated," said Nart Villeneuve. "The Trojan, the attacker favors, the 'ghost rat;' it's open sourced. You can go and download it. It's not like it is some clever special new way of doing it. But the way in which the attacker was able to leverage these tools was sophisticated."
The Toronto researchers uncovered the cyber spying operating when they were asked by the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalia Lama to examine his organization's computers for malware - malicious software that can infiltrate or damage a computer system.
Although the group cannot say whether the Chinese government was involved, they add that Ghostnet's computers were almost exclusively located in China and that the targets were political. They found infected computers in the Dalai Lama's organization and were able to trace stolen correspondence back to the spy network's computer servers in China.
The Chinese government has denied any involvement in the operation.
But James Lewis, a technology expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington says cyber spying is nothing new for the Chinese government.
"We know that they are interested as a government," said Lewis. "We know that they've done it in the past as a government. And the things that are being collected are of interest to the Chinese government."
Lewis notes that many countries, including the United States and Russia, use computer technology to gather intelligence.
The University of Toronto researchers say an international agreement is needed to protect privacy rights and prohibit cyber spy operations like Ghostnet in the future.
Canadian Researchers Uncover China-Based Electronic Spying Operation
By Brian Padden
Washington
30 March 2009
Canadian researchers say they have uncovered a China-based electronic spying operation that infiltrated computers in 103 countries. While they say they have no conclusive evidence of Chinese government involvement, the targets of the computer espionage were political. The cyber spying operation is one of the biggest and most sophisticated ever discovered.
Researchers at the University of Toronto call it Ghostnet - an electronic spying operation that infiltrated more than 1,000 computers around the world. They say it targeted NATO, the Indian Embassy here in Washington and Tibetan exile centers in India, Brussels and London. Researchers say that in addition to stealing computer files, the cyber spies could turn on the internal camera on a remote computer to eavesdrop on live conversations.
Nart Villeneuve is with the University of Toronto's Munk Center for International Studies. He says that while the operation was sophisticated in its organization and scope, it used readily available Internet viruses called Trojans, attached to email messages to infiltrate computers.
"From a purely technical point of view, no, it was not that sophisticated," said Nart Villeneuve. "The Trojan, the attacker favors, the 'ghost rat;' it's open sourced. You can go and download it. It's not like it is some clever special new way of doing it. But the way in which the attacker was able to leverage these tools was sophisticated."
The Toronto researchers uncovered the cyber spying operating when they were asked by the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalia Lama to examine his organization's computers for malware - malicious software that can infiltrate or damage a computer system.
Although the group cannot say whether the Chinese government was involved, they add that Ghostnet's computers were almost exclusively located in China and that the targets were political. They found infected computers in the Dalai Lama's organization and were able to trace stolen correspondence back to the spy network's computer servers in China.
The Chinese government has denied any involvement in the operation.
But James Lewis, a technology expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington says cyber spying is nothing new for the Chinese government.
"We know that they are interested as a government," said Lewis. "We know that they've done it in the past as a government. And the things that are being collected are of interest to the Chinese government."
Lewis notes that many countries, including the United States and Russia, use computer technology to gather intelligence.
The University of Toronto researchers say an international agreement is needed to protect privacy rights and prohibit cyber spy operations like Ghostnet in the future.
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 2:08pmSubject: Re: In The News Today
Did anyone else get the e-mail about the python eating the farmers sheep?
*shudder*
fake?
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/fencesnake.asp
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 2:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Christ I hate snakes. Especially ones big enough to swallow me whole...
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 2:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Did anyone else get the e-mail about the python eating the farmers sheep?
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6207/python.png) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=python.png)
*shudder*
fake?
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6207/python.png) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=python.png)
*shudder*
fake?
I've been wondering where Snappy got to!
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 3:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Arsonist Julien Chautard escapes London's Pentonville prison 'Cape Fear' style
By staff writers and wires
NEWS.com.au
March 31, 2009 02:52pm
POLICE are hunting for convicted arsonist who escaped from London's Pentonville prison shortly after he was counted off the security van.
Frenchman Julien Chautard, 39, copied Robert De Niro's psychopath character Max Cady in the thriller Cape Fear by clinging to the underside of the van and staying there as it left the jail.
His escape on Friday went undetected for seven hours as prison officers searched the prison until 2am.
âThe van went into the prisonâs secure area, then they unloaded the prisoners," a source told The Sun.
âNormally as prisoners come off the vehicle and into the building there is somebody who searches and escorts them - but there wasnât this time.
âChautard didnât go into the building and the van left.
âWhen the van was checked afterwards they found foot prints and finger hold marks on the underside.â
It was only when CCTV footage was checked seven hours later that officers noticed a shadow under the van that had not been there before.
Chautard had been sentenced earlier in the day at Snaresbrook Crown Court to seven years imprisonment for two counts of arson, Scotland Yard said.
Police said he has connections in France and also has links to the Hackney, Edgware and Kings Cross areas of north London.
"The circumstances around the escape will be fully investigated," the Ministry of Justice said.
- with Reuters
By staff writers and wires
NEWS.com.au
March 31, 2009 02:52pm
POLICE are hunting for convicted arsonist who escaped from London's Pentonville prison shortly after he was counted off the security van.
Frenchman Julien Chautard, 39, copied Robert De Niro's psychopath character Max Cady in the thriller Cape Fear by clinging to the underside of the van and staying there as it left the jail.
His escape on Friday went undetected for seven hours as prison officers searched the prison until 2am.
âThe van went into the prisonâs secure area, then they unloaded the prisoners," a source told The Sun.
âNormally as prisoners come off the vehicle and into the building there is somebody who searches and escorts them - but there wasnât this time.
âChautard didnât go into the building and the van left.
âWhen the van was checked afterwards they found foot prints and finger hold marks on the underside.â
It was only when CCTV footage was checked seven hours later that officers noticed a shadow under the van that had not been there before.
Chautard had been sentenced earlier in the day at Snaresbrook Crown Court to seven years imprisonment for two counts of arson, Scotland Yard said.
Police said he has connections in France and also has links to the Hackney, Edgware and Kings Cross areas of north London.
"The circumstances around the escape will be fully investigated," the Ministry of Justice said.
- with Reuters
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 3:37pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The problem is simple Jayar. There is in fact a dollar value on peoples lives and there is a cut off point, although it's probably not arbitrary.
If you spend one billion dollars on cutting the road toll you achieve x less deaths. If you spend 2 billion you achieve x and a half less deaths. If you spend 3 billion you get maybe x and three quarters less deaths.
The diminishing returns aside, if we spend billions and billions of dollars we will see a reduction in deaths. Quite true.
But the money has to come from somewhere. So if you spend 1 billion more on road/license things you have 1 billion less to spend on other things. These other things may include foreign aid for developing countries or investment in renewable energy. This is a fact. Exploring this idea will lead you to the actual dollar value we place on human lives as far as road deaths are concerned, if you have the time to do it.
It's fallacious to assume that just because it's within the realm of possibility to do something about road accidents then we should do that.
Furthermore, it's actually unethical to advocate spending 'whatever it takes' on something like this, once you take in to account the other aspects of society and the world that also require money that would not be forthcoming if we spend it elsewhere.
Easy really.
To sum up, I think that it is actually morally and ethically wrong to spend more than a certain amount on addressing the problem, even despite the fact that spending more could quite literally save some peoples lives. It's a weird stance to take I know, but it's correct.
If you spend one billion dollars on cutting the road toll you achieve x less deaths. If you spend 2 billion you achieve x and a half less deaths. If you spend 3 billion you get maybe x and three quarters less deaths.
The diminishing returns aside, if we spend billions and billions of dollars we will see a reduction in deaths. Quite true.
But the money has to come from somewhere. So if you spend 1 billion more on road/license things you have 1 billion less to spend on other things. These other things may include foreign aid for developing countries or investment in renewable energy. This is a fact. Exploring this idea will lead you to the actual dollar value we place on human lives as far as road deaths are concerned, if you have the time to do it.
It's fallacious to assume that just because it's within the realm of possibility to do something about road accidents then we should do that.
Furthermore, it's actually unethical to advocate spending 'whatever it takes' on something like this, once you take in to account the other aspects of society and the world that also require money that would not be forthcoming if we spend it elsewhere.
Easy really.
To sum up, I think that it is actually morally and ethically wrong to spend more than a certain amount on addressing the problem, even despite the fact that spending more could quite literally save some peoples lives. It's a weird stance to take I know, but it's correct.
Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 4:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Arsonist Julien Chautard escapes London's Pentonville prison 'Cape Fear' style
Lol, what a cock-up! That shit only happens in movies.
Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 9:02amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Texas vote leaves loopholes for teaching creationism
It was a mixed bag of victory and defeat for science on Friday when the Texas Board of Education voted on their state science standards. In a move that pleased the scientific community, the board voted to not include proposed changes that would call for the teaching of the "strengths and weaknesses" of scientific theories â code words for allowing creationist views into the classroom.
However, additional amendments that were voted through provide loopholes for creationist teaching. "It's as if they slammed the door shut with strengths and weaknesses, then ran around the house opening windows to let it in a bunch of other ways," says Dan Quinn, who was on site at the hearings. Quinn is communications director of the Texas Freedom Network, a community watchdog organisation.
One amendment calls for students to "analyze and evaluate scientific explanations concerning the complexity of the cell," phrasing that rings of intelligent design arguments.
Another amendment requires students to "analyze and evaluate scientific explanations concerning any data on sudden appearance and stasis and the sequential groups in the fossil record." These issues are commonly held up by creationists as arguments against evolution, even though the scientific community disagrees.
Anti-evolutionist Don McLeroy, a dentist and chair of the Texas State Board of Education, testified at Friday's hearing: "I disagree with these experts. Someone has got to stand up to experts." :lol:
Age of the universe
An amendment to the environmental sciences standards requires students to "analyze and evaluate different views on the existence of global warming", despite overwhelming consensus within the scientific community that global warming exists.
An amendment to the Earth and space sciences curriculum requires the teaching of different theories of the origin, age and history of the universe. The board voted to remove from the standards the statement that the universe is roughly 14 billion years old :banghead:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16859-texas-vote-leaves-loopholes-for-teaching-creationism.html?full=true
It was a mixed bag of victory and defeat for science on Friday when the Texas Board of Education voted on their state science standards. In a move that pleased the scientific community, the board voted to not include proposed changes that would call for the teaching of the "strengths and weaknesses" of scientific theories â code words for allowing creationist views into the classroom.
However, additional amendments that were voted through provide loopholes for creationist teaching. "It's as if they slammed the door shut with strengths and weaknesses, then ran around the house opening windows to let it in a bunch of other ways," says Dan Quinn, who was on site at the hearings. Quinn is communications director of the Texas Freedom Network, a community watchdog organisation.
One amendment calls for students to "analyze and evaluate scientific explanations concerning the complexity of the cell," phrasing that rings of intelligent design arguments.
Another amendment requires students to "analyze and evaluate scientific explanations concerning any data on sudden appearance and stasis and the sequential groups in the fossil record." These issues are commonly held up by creationists as arguments against evolution, even though the scientific community disagrees.
Anti-evolutionist Don McLeroy, a dentist and chair of the Texas State Board of Education, testified at Friday's hearing: "I disagree with these experts. Someone has got to stand up to experts." :lol:
Age of the universe
An amendment to the environmental sciences standards requires students to "analyze and evaluate different views on the existence of global warming", despite overwhelming consensus within the scientific community that global warming exists.
An amendment to the Earth and space sciences curriculum requires the teaching of different theories of the origin, age and history of the universe. The board voted to remove from the standards the statement that the universe is roughly 14 billion years old :banghead:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16859-texas-vote-leaves-loopholes-for-teaching-creationism.html?full=true
Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 10:11amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder if they will start teaching about the Flying Spaghetti Monster now? I would love to learn more about the embrace of his noodly appendage.
Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 10:14amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Lonely spinster in seedy shame
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00768/Pinecone-280_768802a.jpg)
What the offending sex toy may have looked like. Offending item ... a pine cone
A sex starved woman has undergone a painful two-hour op to remove a giant PINE CONE.
Surgeons have revealed embarrassed spinster Mirjana Gavaric is recovering after getting steamy with the seedy item in the Serbian capital, Belgrade.
Dr Sava Bojovic explained: “She was lonely and she took a pine cone from a tree and unfortunately it got stuck and she needed surgery to get it out.”
By all accounts, she did have a tree-mendous time with it, though clearly she was pining for some cone-panionship.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00768/Pinecone-280_768802a.jpg)
What the offending sex toy may have looked like. Offending item ... a pine cone
A sex starved woman has undergone a painful two-hour op to remove a giant PINE CONE.
Surgeons have revealed embarrassed spinster Mirjana Gavaric is recovering after getting steamy with the seedy item in the Serbian capital, Belgrade.
Dr Sava Bojovic explained: “She was lonely and she took a pine cone from a tree and unfortunately it got stuck and she needed surgery to get it out.”
By all accounts, she did have a tree-mendous time with it, though clearly she was pining for some cone-panionship.
Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 11:31amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:lol:
Heard about that on the radio yesterday morning. Surely you find something more suitable than a pinecone ffs.
Also fkn LOL @ the last line.
Heard about that on the radio yesterday morning. Surely you find something more suitable than a pinecone ffs.
Also fkn LOL @ the last line.
Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 12:07pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Court told police officer bashed tourist, shoved hose in his mouth
April 02, 2009 12:01am
A FORMER Queensland police officer allegedly bashed and kicked a handcuffed tourist unconscious before nearly drowning him by jamming a fire hose into his mouth.
Former senior constable Benjamin Thomas Price, 32, yesterday faced Proserpine Court for committal on six counts of assault on three victims.
Police whistleblower Constable Bree Sonter broke down in tears as video of the alleged attack outside Airlie Beach police station was shown to the court, The Courier-Mail reports.
The emotional father of the alleged victim stunned the court as he stood and yelled: "You're a brave man Price, I hope you get a fire hose jammed up your arse in jail."
Timothy Steele, 24, a plasterer from NSW, suffered a broken nose, black eyes, a head wound, hearing problems, memory loss and lack of sensation in his arms and hands after his arrest in the popular Whitsundays tourist town on May 24 last year.
He told the court he was trying to break-up a fight between two mates when he was capsicum sprayed by Sonter. It is alleged Price led the handcuffed Steele to a police car before saying "watch your head" and smashing his face into the vehicle, knocking him unconscious.
Price allegedly dragged Steele from the car outside Airlie Beach watchhouse, repeatedly punched him and "kicked him with his boots" in the face, breaking his nose.
CCTV video footage from the police station shows a dazed, heavily bleeding Steele being dragged into an alley beside the watchhouse. It shows the handcuffed man being punched in the head before having a fire hose jammed into his mouth, where it was held for up to 90 seconds as another officer watches.
Steele screams and groans in agony and blood can be seen sheeting down the concrete path as the policeman stands on the handcuffs, pressing his hand into the back of the man's neck, forcing his head into his lap in a brutal spine lock.
"I felt like I was going to drown," Steele told the court.
"He jammed the hose into my mouth. I couldn't breathe. I was coughing and spluttering blood. It was pretty scary. It went on for a long time.
"I called him a pussy. He knocked me about. I was pretty dazed, I'd had a boot to my face, my nose was broken. I was choking on my own blood, I felt like I was drowning."
Constable Sonter, now based at Sandgate, broke down as she told how she could hear Steele screaming for help.
"I could hear Price yelling 'You like that?' and then a smack sound, it sounded like a punch, and Steele went quiet," she told the court.
The strongly built former officer, who now works as a tree-cutter, also allegedly repeatedly punched another man in the face during an argument about urinating in public.
He also is accused of assaulting tourist Renee Tomms.
Price, who has not yet entered a plea, is represented by Queensland Police Union barrister Steve Zillman.
April 02, 2009 12:01am
A FORMER Queensland police officer allegedly bashed and kicked a handcuffed tourist unconscious before nearly drowning him by jamming a fire hose into his mouth.
Former senior constable Benjamin Thomas Price, 32, yesterday faced Proserpine Court for committal on six counts of assault on three victims.
Police whistleblower Constable Bree Sonter broke down in tears as video of the alleged attack outside Airlie Beach police station was shown to the court, The Courier-Mail reports.
The emotional father of the alleged victim stunned the court as he stood and yelled: "You're a brave man Price, I hope you get a fire hose jammed up your arse in jail."
Timothy Steele, 24, a plasterer from NSW, suffered a broken nose, black eyes, a head wound, hearing problems, memory loss and lack of sensation in his arms and hands after his arrest in the popular Whitsundays tourist town on May 24 last year.
He told the court he was trying to break-up a fight between two mates when he was capsicum sprayed by Sonter. It is alleged Price led the handcuffed Steele to a police car before saying "watch your head" and smashing his face into the vehicle, knocking him unconscious.
Price allegedly dragged Steele from the car outside Airlie Beach watchhouse, repeatedly punched him and "kicked him with his boots" in the face, breaking his nose.
CCTV video footage from the police station shows a dazed, heavily bleeding Steele being dragged into an alley beside the watchhouse. It shows the handcuffed man being punched in the head before having a fire hose jammed into his mouth, where it was held for up to 90 seconds as another officer watches.
Steele screams and groans in agony and blood can be seen sheeting down the concrete path as the policeman stands on the handcuffs, pressing his hand into the back of the man's neck, forcing his head into his lap in a brutal spine lock.
"I felt like I was going to drown," Steele told the court.
"He jammed the hose into my mouth. I couldn't breathe. I was coughing and spluttering blood. It was pretty scary. It went on for a long time.
"I called him a pussy. He knocked me about. I was pretty dazed, I'd had a boot to my face, my nose was broken. I was choking on my own blood, I felt like I was drowning."
Constable Sonter, now based at Sandgate, broke down as she told how she could hear Steele screaming for help.
"I could hear Price yelling 'You like that?' and then a smack sound, it sounded like a punch, and Steele went quiet," she told the court.
The strongly built former officer, who now works as a tree-cutter, also allegedly repeatedly punched another man in the face during an argument about urinating in public.
He also is accused of assaulting tourist Renee Tomms.
Price, who has not yet entered a plea, is represented by Queensland Police Union barrister Steve Zillman.
Posted: 8 Apr 2009, 10:47amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Internet Censorship Worldwide:
Sweden:
Internet traffic in Sweden has plummeted after a tough new anti-piracy law was enacted in the country earlier this week, casting interesting new light on the extent to which illegal file-sharing occurs. The new law makes copyright holders such as record and entertainment companies to go through the courts to determine the identities of those suspected of piracy, via their IP addresses. The anonymity illegal file sharers have has hitherto made the practice widespread, although figures vary as to exactly how commonplace it is in various countries. However, traffic to Netnod Internet Exchange AB, a Swedish firm which manages many of the countryâs key internet exchanges reported a drop of around half since Wednesday, when the law took effect. Throughput has yet to pick up.
Data transmission rates have slumped from a peak of around 190/200 Gbit/sec to daily highs since Wednesday of about 100 Gbit/sec. At the time of writing, the figure was around 80Gbit/sec. Along with its Scandinavian neighbours, Sweden has one of the most mature internet industries in the world, with a highly developed fibre-optic network broadband infrastructure. The figures will be a shock to many, pointing as they do to a potentially high prevalence of illegal file sharing. France yesterday showed its commitment to eradicate illegal file-sharing after passing a âthree strikes lawâ which decrees that persistent offenders can be suspended from using the internet for a period of time. However, moves to get the law enacted at a European level have met with more opposition.
France: HADOPI passed on a vote by 16 members out of 577 after ~42hrs of "deliberation"
After 41 hours and 40 minutes of passionate discussion on the text, there remained only a handful of courageous members around 22:45 Thursday evening when the National Assembly decided, on the instructions of the Secretary of State Roger Karoutchi to pass immediately to vote on the Creation and Internet law, which was not expected before next week. One exception, which allows you to hide the large number of UMP deputies who would have abstained if the vote had been, as tradition dictates, after the government issues Tuesday night. Thus wished Nicolas Sarkozy.
Four members voted no (Martine Billard, Patrick Bloche and two unidentified deputies), and a dozen hands were raised on the banks of the majority to vote yes. In all, 16 MPs were in the chamber for the vote.
So one of the most important, and contentious piece of legislation in recent years is passed by trickery. In this way, those pushing this law have shown their true colours and their contempt for the democratic process.
Pretty retarded implementation of the democratic process... Less than 3% of the governing body get the final vote on such an important peice of legislation... Lern2quorum
Sweden:
Internet traffic in Sweden has plummeted after a tough new anti-piracy law was enacted in the country earlier this week, casting interesting new light on the extent to which illegal file-sharing occurs. The new law makes copyright holders such as record and entertainment companies to go through the courts to determine the identities of those suspected of piracy, via their IP addresses. The anonymity illegal file sharers have has hitherto made the practice widespread, although figures vary as to exactly how commonplace it is in various countries. However, traffic to Netnod Internet Exchange AB, a Swedish firm which manages many of the countryâs key internet exchanges reported a drop of around half since Wednesday, when the law took effect. Throughput has yet to pick up.
Data transmission rates have slumped from a peak of around 190/200 Gbit/sec to daily highs since Wednesday of about 100 Gbit/sec. At the time of writing, the figure was around 80Gbit/sec. Along with its Scandinavian neighbours, Sweden has one of the most mature internet industries in the world, with a highly developed fibre-optic network broadband infrastructure. The figures will be a shock to many, pointing as they do to a potentially high prevalence of illegal file sharing. France yesterday showed its commitment to eradicate illegal file-sharing after passing a âthree strikes lawâ which decrees that persistent offenders can be suspended from using the internet for a period of time. However, moves to get the law enacted at a European level have met with more opposition.
France: HADOPI passed on a vote by 16 members out of 577 after ~42hrs of "deliberation"
After 41 hours and 40 minutes of passionate discussion on the text, there remained only a handful of courageous members around 22:45 Thursday evening when the National Assembly decided, on the instructions of the Secretary of State Roger Karoutchi to pass immediately to vote on the Creation and Internet law, which was not expected before next week. One exception, which allows you to hide the large number of UMP deputies who would have abstained if the vote had been, as tradition dictates, after the government issues Tuesday night. Thus wished Nicolas Sarkozy.
Four members voted no (Martine Billard, Patrick Bloche and two unidentified deputies), and a dozen hands were raised on the banks of the majority to vote yes. In all, 16 MPs were in the chamber for the vote.
So one of the most important, and contentious piece of legislation in recent years is passed by trickery. In this way, those pushing this law have shown their true colours and their contempt for the democratic process.
Pretty retarded implementation of the democratic process... Less than 3% of the governing body get the final vote on such an important peice of legislation... Lern2quorum
Posted: 8 Apr 2009, 11:32amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Internet Censorship Worldwide:
Sorry, but this is NOT internet censorship, but laws passed to prevent the continued growth of internet piracy.
Two completely different things with two completely different outcomes for people.
Freedom of Speech is a fundamental human right, one of the basic pillars of modern democracy.
Downloading movies/music/games involves interfering with the flow of capital to producers of artworks.
If the latter stops, you can still go out and buy a movie. If the former stops, your movies aren't made!
Posted: 9 Apr 2009, 9:20amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
A man purchasing two used Grand Theft Auto titles from a store in Gloucestershire, England, over the weekend got more than he bargained for, to the tune of four tablets worth of the drug ecstasy.
Richard Thornhill purchased two used Grand Theft Auto titles from a Gamestation store in Cheltenham on Sunday. Upon opening one of the game boxes, a cling-film packet dropped from between the pages of the game manual containing four ecstasy pills, which he promptly brought to the local police station. Thornhill shudders to think what could have happened if his 12-year-old son or 16-year-old daughter had found the pills.
"I have two children and my son plays Xbox all the time. He could easily have opened the box and found them. I dread to think what the consequences would have been if he had. He is only 12. He could have died."
Of course any 12-year-old should know not to eat random pills they find inside video game boxes, but that's beside the point. The point here is that Gamestation sold a man a video game with psychedelic drugs inside it. How does that happen? Gamestation said:
"We have rigorous procedures for accepting pre-owned titles and checking them before they are put back on sale. We have launched an immediate investigation and we will work closely with police to find out what happened in this instance.
Anyone who has ever traded in a game at GameStop knows full well that they never, ever check the game manuals. One could theoretically print out a bunch of porn from the internet, wrap the game manual's cover around it, trade in their used copy of Animal Crossing, and then wait for the headlines to appear. Not that I am suggesting anyone try that, of course.
Somewhere in Gloucestershire a raver is completely kicking themselves right now.
http://kotaku.com/5203754/man-finds-ecstasy-in-used-copy-of-grand-theft-auto
:lol: at last line
Richard Thornhill purchased two used Grand Theft Auto titles from a Gamestation store in Cheltenham on Sunday. Upon opening one of the game boxes, a cling-film packet dropped from between the pages of the game manual containing four ecstasy pills, which he promptly brought to the local police station. Thornhill shudders to think what could have happened if his 12-year-old son or 16-year-old daughter had found the pills.
"I have two children and my son plays Xbox all the time. He could easily have opened the box and found them. I dread to think what the consequences would have been if he had. He is only 12. He could have died."
Of course any 12-year-old should know not to eat random pills they find inside video game boxes, but that's beside the point. The point here is that Gamestation sold a man a video game with psychedelic drugs inside it. How does that happen? Gamestation said:
"We have rigorous procedures for accepting pre-owned titles and checking them before they are put back on sale. We have launched an immediate investigation and we will work closely with police to find out what happened in this instance.
Anyone who has ever traded in a game at GameStop knows full well that they never, ever check the game manuals. One could theoretically print out a bunch of porn from the internet, wrap the game manual's cover around it, trade in their used copy of Animal Crossing, and then wait for the headlines to appear. Not that I am suggesting anyone try that, of course.
Somewhere in Gloucestershire a raver is completely kicking themselves right now.
http://kotaku.com/5203754/man-finds-ecstasy-in-used-copy-of-grand-theft-auto
:lol: at last line
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 4:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Teething problems at Monarto Live At The Zoo music festival
Article from: The Advertiser
April 10, 2009 12:40pm
ADELAIDE'S first three-day music camping festival has got off to a less than impressive start, with reports of long delays, widespread disorganisation and angry fans.
In its first year, Live at the Zoo - set in Monarto Zoo near Murray Bridge - is struggling to hold the event together, experiencing major teething problems.
The gates were kept shut as the queue of cars gradually lengthened, with frustrated fans reporting that more than 300 cars were banked up outside the music festival at midday.
By 3pm the gates had been opened, but the queue was moving very slowly as security guards checked every vehicle for alcohol and drugs.
The event has already had to cancel numerous acts, with an email sent around to local acts saying the bad news was due to "costs massively exceeding original budget expectations".
There are reports of major dust issues within the festival grounds, and little or no shade for fans.
Also, revellers who paid $185 for a three-day pass have reported a complete lack of instruction on where and when people can camp.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25316394-5006301,00.html
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 4:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The comments are gold, some guy is reporting live from his laptop and now he reckons the security are after 'somebody with a laptop' in the lineup.
Sounds like Nazi Germany these guys...cracking down on the negative publicity haha.
Sounds like Nazi Germany these guys...cracking down on the negative publicity haha.
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 4:53pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
already posted that in the thread for the event, doesnt sound promising...
Posted: 10 Apr 2009, 8:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Goldie goes classical for the BBC Proms (http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/people,2173,goldie-goes-classical-for-bbc-proms,81242)
He made his name as a drum 'n' bass DJ and graffiti artist but now Goldie is scheduled to debut his classical composing talents at the 2009 BBC Proms.
Goldie - real name Clifford Price, whose nickname comes from the array of gold caps on his teeth - was a surprise success story in last year's BBC television series Maestro which gave celebrities the chance to conduct a BBC orchestra. Now, having been coached by classical composer Anna Meredith, Goldie will hear his work performed by the BBC concert orchestra as part of Evolution, a Charles Darwin-inspired Prom for children.
Roger Wright, director of the BBC Proms, which start on July 17, has said that Goldie's piece will only be a very short segment of the whole festival and that the 43-year-old had struggled to make the transition to classical music. "He's a great creative musician," said Wright, "but the idea was to ask him to learn to write for acoustic instruments which was a real challenge for him." (Continued below)
According to Goldie himself, he was inspired to start listening to classical music while in a relationship with the singer Bjork. "We were in Iceland together one Christmas Eve, looking out of a window at boats in the harbour, with three or four feet of snow. And she put on [Henryk] Górecki and it was just brilliant, beautiful, touching," Goldie told the Daily Telegraph last year. "This was music that summed up real life. And so it changed the way I thought about classical music."
Goldie hasn't yet forgotten his roots in visual art: he has an exhibition, 'The Kids are All Riot', scheduled to open at the Maverik Showroom in Shoreditch on Friday.
He made his name as a drum 'n' bass DJ and graffiti artist but now Goldie is scheduled to debut his classical composing talents at the 2009 BBC Proms.
Goldie - real name Clifford Price, whose nickname comes from the array of gold caps on his teeth - was a surprise success story in last year's BBC television series Maestro which gave celebrities the chance to conduct a BBC orchestra. Now, having been coached by classical composer Anna Meredith, Goldie will hear his work performed by the BBC concert orchestra as part of Evolution, a Charles Darwin-inspired Prom for children.
Roger Wright, director of the BBC Proms, which start on July 17, has said that Goldie's piece will only be a very short segment of the whole festival and that the 43-year-old had struggled to make the transition to classical music. "He's a great creative musician," said Wright, "but the idea was to ask him to learn to write for acoustic instruments which was a real challenge for him." (Continued below)
According to Goldie himself, he was inspired to start listening to classical music while in a relationship with the singer Bjork. "We were in Iceland together one Christmas Eve, looking out of a window at boats in the harbour, with three or four feet of snow. And she put on [Henryk] Górecki and it was just brilliant, beautiful, touching," Goldie told the Daily Telegraph last year. "This was music that summed up real life. And so it changed the way I thought about classical music."
Goldie hasn't yet forgotten his roots in visual art: he has an exhibition, 'The Kids are All Riot', scheduled to open at the Maverik Showroom in Shoreditch on Friday.
Posted: 12 Apr 2009, 1:55amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
(http://images.smh.com.au/ftsmh/ffximage/2009/04/11/johnsafran_wideweb__470x300,0.jpg)
John Safran nailed to cross for Easter
PLENTY of people have wanted to "crucify" small-screen bad boy John Safran over the course of his television career.
Since making a splash on Race Around The World in 1997, he has upset everyone from television host Ray Martin to ABC management.
But his latest stunt of being nailed to the cross in a Good Friday ceremony in the Philippines is not intended to cause offence, according to his Triple J radio partner Father Bob Maguire.
Safran, 33, who identified himself as John Michael from Melbourne, joined three local men and a woman in being nailed to wooden crosses in Kapitangan, near Manila.
Father Bob said Safran, who is Jewish, would have volunteered to be nailed to the cross to get a "forensic" insight into religious practices. "He would not have done it contemptuously. For him, religion is the heart of the cosmos," he said.
"To Western eyes, there are some pretty unnerving devotional practices, so he's like a detective, investigating it. He's certainly not anti-religious."
Sydney Catholic Bishop Julian Porteous said he was concerned Safran was making fun of religion.
"There are matters that are deeply significant to people's lives and a starting point I think should always be that of respect for people's religious beliefs and their practices," Bishop Porteous said.
The dean of Ashfield-Canterbury deanery, Father Gary Rawson, said the Catholic Church did not sanction crucifixions. "If we indulge in self-harm that is wrong."
The crucifixion was filmed for an eight-part series Safran is making for the ABC, which has clearly forgiven him for trespassing on the property of Ray Martin in 1998 while filming a comedy pilot.
Safran was filming a stunt with Shane Paxton, the teenager who had been portrayed on A Current Affair, then hosted by Martin, as a work-shy young man who refused to cut his hair to get a job.
The new series, John Safran's Race Relations, has been described by the ABC as a "globe-trotting adventure". The director of television, Kim Dalton, said it was a "thoughtful and challenging exploration of cultural differences and convictions - the kind of project that you expect from John Safran".
Wearing a long-haired wig with an improvised crown of thorns, Safran carried a huge wooden cross in the procession to a crucifixion site.
He could be heard moaning loudly as nails were driven into his palms and feet before the cross was hoisted up and he was left to hang for about five minutes. Afterwards men dressed as centurions took him to a medical tent.
John Safran nailed to cross for Easter
PLENTY of people have wanted to "crucify" small-screen bad boy John Safran over the course of his television career.
Since making a splash on Race Around The World in 1997, he has upset everyone from television host Ray Martin to ABC management.
But his latest stunt of being nailed to the cross in a Good Friday ceremony in the Philippines is not intended to cause offence, according to his Triple J radio partner Father Bob Maguire.
Safran, 33, who identified himself as John Michael from Melbourne, joined three local men and a woman in being nailed to wooden crosses in Kapitangan, near Manila.
Father Bob said Safran, who is Jewish, would have volunteered to be nailed to the cross to get a "forensic" insight into religious practices. "He would not have done it contemptuously. For him, religion is the heart of the cosmos," he said.
"To Western eyes, there are some pretty unnerving devotional practices, so he's like a detective, investigating it. He's certainly not anti-religious."
Sydney Catholic Bishop Julian Porteous said he was concerned Safran was making fun of religion.
"There are matters that are deeply significant to people's lives and a starting point I think should always be that of respect for people's religious beliefs and their practices," Bishop Porteous said.
The dean of Ashfield-Canterbury deanery, Father Gary Rawson, said the Catholic Church did not sanction crucifixions. "If we indulge in self-harm that is wrong."
The crucifixion was filmed for an eight-part series Safran is making for the ABC, which has clearly forgiven him for trespassing on the property of Ray Martin in 1998 while filming a comedy pilot.
Safran was filming a stunt with Shane Paxton, the teenager who had been portrayed on A Current Affair, then hosted by Martin, as a work-shy young man who refused to cut his hair to get a job.
The new series, John Safran's Race Relations, has been described by the ABC as a "globe-trotting adventure". The director of television, Kim Dalton, said it was a "thoughtful and challenging exploration of cultural differences and convictions - the kind of project that you expect from John Safran".
Wearing a long-haired wig with an improvised crown of thorns, Safran carried a huge wooden cross in the procession to a crucifixion site.
He could be heard moaning loudly as nails were driven into his palms and feet before the cross was hoisted up and he was left to hang for about five minutes. Afterwards men dressed as centurions took him to a medical tent.
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 10:15amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Cheech and Chong fans busted for marijuana possession
Herald Sun
April 17, 2009 10:11am
CHEECH and Chong fans be warned, authorities aren't seeing the funny side of wacky weed, busting several fans for cannabis possession interstate.
The irreverent US comedians and hippie culture advocates Cheech and Chong's Sydney stand-up show was the target of a police drug operation.
The '70s stoners, who are part-way through their Cheech and Chong Light Up Australia tour, had to delay the start of their show at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney's Newtown on Wednesday, while police carried out the search with sniffer dogs.
About 25 police and four drug dogs were involved.
About 50 people were searched and six people were caught in possession of small amounts of cannabis.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25346005-29277,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25346005-29277,00.html)
:fu:
Herald Sun
April 17, 2009 10:11am
CHEECH and Chong fans be warned, authorities aren't seeing the funny side of wacky weed, busting several fans for cannabis possession interstate.
The irreverent US comedians and hippie culture advocates Cheech and Chong's Sydney stand-up show was the target of a police drug operation.
The '70s stoners, who are part-way through their Cheech and Chong Light Up Australia tour, had to delay the start of their show at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney's Newtown on Wednesday, while police carried out the search with sniffer dogs.
About 25 police and four drug dogs were involved.
About 50 people were searched and six people were caught in possession of small amounts of cannabis.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25346005-29277,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25346005-29277,00.html)
:fu:
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 10:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Well, it's good to know another 6 hardened criminals are off the streets. And let's not forget the potentially lethal amounts of marijuana found on said scumbags. It's poison I tell ya!
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 11:06amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I wonder how much it costs to pay 25 police, including at least 4 drug dog handlers. State taxes hard at work!
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 9:36pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
C'mon, the cops probably had some quota's to meet :peculiar:
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 10:39pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Pirate Bay founders jailed in landmark case
A Swedish court has convicted four men who founded the file-sharing website Pirate Bay of breaking copyright law in a landmark case.
Pirate Bay is used by millions of people who share files of illegally downloaded music, films and computer games.
The verdict from Stockholm will be welcomed by the entertainment industry which says sites like the Pirate Bay are destroying their business.
The four convicted men, who were sentenced each to a year in prison, had said they believed their website is legal because it does not host the copyright material but merely points users to where on the net they can find it.
For its supporters, Pirate Bay is a force for good battling the greedy media corporations.
But now the defendants will have to pay more than $3.5 million in damages to those companies which include Warner Bros, MGM, Sony and EMI.
Founded in 2003, Pirate Bay claims to have some 22 million users worldwide.
A Swedish court has convicted four men who founded the file-sharing website Pirate Bay of breaking copyright law in a landmark case.
Pirate Bay is used by millions of people who share files of illegally downloaded music, films and computer games.
The verdict from Stockholm will be welcomed by the entertainment industry which says sites like the Pirate Bay are destroying their business.
The four convicted men, who were sentenced each to a year in prison, had said they believed their website is legal because it does not host the copyright material but merely points users to where on the net they can find it.
For its supporters, Pirate Bay is a force for good battling the greedy media corporations.
But now the defendants will have to pay more than $3.5 million in damages to those companies which include Warner Bros, MGM, Sony and EMI.
Founded in 2003, Pirate Bay claims to have some 22 million users worldwide.
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 10:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Doh
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 1:00amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That doesn't bode well...
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 6:44amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
The floodgates will surely open soon...
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 1:37pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Just read this article on Dubai and was amazed at what goes on.. Admittedly I've not read much about the place at all, just seen all the pretty pictures.
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 3:52pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fucking disgusting! :hurl:
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25353542-2682,00.html
Watch the video.... :hurl:
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25353542-2682,00.html
Watch the video.... :hurl:
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 4:39pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Just read this article on Dubai and was amazed at what goes on.. Admittedly I've not read much about the place at all, just seen all the pretty pictures.
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
Nice link John. Very good article, it really shows how much they have pulled the wools over the eyes of the world public. I've always swallowed it's glamourous image hook, line and sinker.
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 5:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Wow, their handling of bankruptcy seems counter-productive to say the least. Outside of being an abuse to human rights, I can't see how freezing someones accounts before jailing them can provide opportunities for the debtors to recoup the creditors. In my, admittedly sparse, past experience with Johann Hari he has always seemed to be an objective and honest reporter as well.
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 5:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Just read this article on Dubai and was amazed at what goes on.. Admittedly I've not read much about the place at all, just seen all the pretty pictures.
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
The Dark Side of Dubai
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html?
its a cunt of a place imo. though i had no idea the 'slavery' was bad as that!
pity the poor french 17 year old guy from a couple of years ago who had been living there with his working ex-pat parents - abducted on the street, taken out to the desert, gang raped by several men for hours and dumped back in the city... the kid identified his attackers, DNA evidence confirmed it, only to have the case thrown out by the cops and judge because there is no such thing as male rape, you must be gay.
needless to say its caused quite a diplomatic stir between them and the french gov...
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 5:50pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
its a cunt of a place imo. though i had no idea the 'slavery' was bad as that!
I had heard it was pretty bad, but I had wondered how they acquired the workers. Seems so simple; there must be an incredibly large number of poor families who have no idea what has become of their sons or fathers.
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 7:14pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Great article!!!
Will be interesting to see what happens there over the next decade.
Not that I'd ever set foot in the place (which I decided long before reading the article)!!!
Will be interesting to see what happens there over the next decade.
Not that I'd ever set foot in the place (which I decided long before reading the article)!!!
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 8:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Not that I'd ever set foot in the place (which I decided long before reading the article)!!!
+1
its a doomed city if you ask me. just a question of how long...
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 8:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
So the Road Transport Minister is a hoon driver.
Score one for the Rann Government.
Which nimrod had the task of vetting that guy before handing him that portfolio? That clown needs the sack too.
Score one for the Rann Government.
Which nimrod had the task of vetting that guy before handing him that portfolio? That clown needs the sack too.
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 9:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
So the Road Transport Minister is a hoon driver.
no rob, one better
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 9:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 9:09pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
no rob, one better
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
Thanks, I stand corrected.
I am sure Erika was never a taxi driver. She can't be that bad a driver, surely?
Posted: 21 Apr 2009, 10:49pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fat people will be the end of us all!!
Scientists say obese people to blame for eating the world up
NEWS.com.au
April 21, 2009 02:59pm
THE rising number of fat people has been blamed for global warming.
Scientists warned that the increase in big-eaters means more food production - a major cause of CO2 gas emissions warming the planet, according to a report in The Sun.
The environmental impact of fat humans is made even worse because they are more likely to travel by car - another major cause of carbon emissions.
Each fat person is said to be responsible for a tonne more of climate-warming carbon dioxide per year than a thin one due to factors including higher food and fuel consumption.
It means an extra billion tonnes of CO2 a year is created, according to World Health Organisation estimates of overweight people.
Dr Phil Edwards, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said: âMoving about in a heavy body is like driving in a gas guzzler.â
Researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine say wealthy nations like the US and Britain are getting fatter by the decade.
âFood production accounts for about one fifth of greenhouse gases,â Dr Edwards said.
âWe need to do a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness. It is a key factor in the battle to reduce carbon emissions and slow climate change.
âThis is about over-consumption by the wealthy countries. And the world demand for meat is increasing to match that of Britain and America.
The study by Dr Edwards and colleague Ian Roberts is published in the International Journal of Epidemiology.
Dr Edwards went on: âWe are not just pointing the finger at fat people. All populations are getting fatter and it has an impact on the environment."
A staggering 40 per cent of Americans are obese, among 300 million worldwide.
Australian Professor Paul Zimmet predicted a disastrous obesity pandemic back in 2006.
Predictions for Australia are even more alarming than America, with 60 per cent of Australia's population expected to be obese by 2019.
Oxfam warned yesterday that the number of people hit by climate-related disasters will soar by more than half in the next six years to 375 million.
The impact of more storms, floods and droughts could overwhelm aid organisations.
Scientists say obese people to blame for eating the world up
NEWS.com.au
April 21, 2009 02:59pm
THE rising number of fat people has been blamed for global warming.
Scientists warned that the increase in big-eaters means more food production - a major cause of CO2 gas emissions warming the planet, according to a report in The Sun.
The environmental impact of fat humans is made even worse because they are more likely to travel by car - another major cause of carbon emissions.
Each fat person is said to be responsible for a tonne more of climate-warming carbon dioxide per year than a thin one due to factors including higher food and fuel consumption.
It means an extra billion tonnes of CO2 a year is created, according to World Health Organisation estimates of overweight people.
Dr Phil Edwards, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said: âMoving about in a heavy body is like driving in a gas guzzler.â
Researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine say wealthy nations like the US and Britain are getting fatter by the decade.
âFood production accounts for about one fifth of greenhouse gases,â Dr Edwards said.
âWe need to do a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness. It is a key factor in the battle to reduce carbon emissions and slow climate change.
âThis is about over-consumption by the wealthy countries. And the world demand for meat is increasing to match that of Britain and America.
The study by Dr Edwards and colleague Ian Roberts is published in the International Journal of Epidemiology.
Dr Edwards went on: âWe are not just pointing the finger at fat people. All populations are getting fatter and it has an impact on the environment."
A staggering 40 per cent of Americans are obese, among 300 million worldwide.
Australian Professor Paul Zimmet predicted a disastrous obesity pandemic back in 2006.
Predictions for Australia are even more alarming than America, with 60 per cent of Australia's population expected to be obese by 2019.
Oxfam warned yesterday that the number of people hit by climate-related disasters will soar by more than half in the next six years to 375 million.
The impact of more storms, floods and droughts could overwhelm aid organisations.
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 5:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fat people will be the end of us all!!
plus all the extra farts
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 8:40pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Oooh this is sweet!
The Pirate Bay trial invalid? (translation of Swedish article)
Posted on | April 23, 2009 | No Comments
Just a couple of hour ago, this breaking news article was published on the webpage of SR (Swedish National Radio). It unveils how the judge of the The Pirate Bay spectrial is actually an active member of the Swedish copyright lobby.
As no English media has picked up the story yet, I have made a rough translation from Swedish. As I am not entirely fluent in Swedish (I am Danish), there are a few words that still needs translation (marked in red paranthesis below). If anyone can help, email me at villum@autofunk.dk and I will adjust the translation accordingly. Also, any better formulation/translation of any part of the article will be appreciated.
âTRIAL MAY NEED TO BE DONE OVERâ
This Friday all four founders of The Pirate Bay were sentenced to one year in prison and paying approx. 30 million Swedish Kronor in compensation and damages. But now an examination by Swedish radio P3 Nyheter (P3 News) shows that the judge in the trial may not be impartial. And the trial may need to be made over.
âI think that the judge should have chosen not to take the case. It is definitely a _____ (âdelikatessjävâ, translation help needed),â says law attorney Leif Silbersky.
Through examination it turns out and there are relations between the judge in The Pirate Bay-trial and prosecution; meaning the film and music industry and their attorneys.
Swedish Association for Copyright (SFU)
Here the judge is a private member. Henrik Pontén, Peter Danowsky and Monique Wadsted that represent the copyright owners in The Pirate Bay trial are also members. The association writes on its homepage that they are âa meeting spot for qualified copyright discussionsâ.
Swedish Association for Business _______ (ârättskyddâ, translation help needed) (SFIR)
The association deals with questions of patent and _______ (âmönsterskyddâ, translation help needed), but has also worked in favor of stronger copyrights. Here the judge is a member of the board.
Stiftelsen.se
An extra job that the judge fills alongside his work as a council member in the âTingsrettenâ (Court of Property).
âIt may be necessary to for the trial to be done over again,â says Leif Silbersky. âBut in order for that to happen the attorneys must deal with this immediately.â
Criticism from various sides
We have talked to several experts such as professors in law practices, judges in Högsta Domstolen (Supreme Court) and lecturers of justice.
âI would not have taken this case, if I had been in this situation,â says Justitieombudsmannen (Ombudsman of Justice) Rune Lavin.
âIt is obvious that he never should have taken this count,â a professor in law practice, that chooses to remain anonymous.
Judges must not have any reason to be deemed partial
There are different types of ____ (âjävâ, translation help needed). The most obvious case is if a judge is related to one of the inflicted parties. This is not the case here. But the concept of _____ (âdelikatessjävâ, translation help needed) exists, and that means that you as a judge must not have any reason to be deemed partial.
âBut I do not think that I can be deemed partial because of these engagements,â says Tomas Norström, judge in The Pirate Bay trial.
How do you explain that several law experts disagree with you?
âYou will have to ask them that yourselv. Every time I am presented with a count, I access if I see myself as partial. That I have not in this case,â says Tomas Norström.
But it does not matter what the judges thinks himself. This thinks Erik Bylander, associate professor in law practice at the Gothenburg Business College.
âRegardless of the judgeâs viewpoint, it can seem highly questionable. In a high profile lawsuit such as this one, I am _____ (âförvånaâ, translation help needed) that the court has not been more careful,â he says.
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 9:37pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
People like this deserve to be thrown into a river of boiling hot piss. :angry:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2391386.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2391386.ece)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2391386.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2391386.ece)
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:05amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
That story really disturbs me...
Have we got to such a point where confrontation is so worrisome that a grown man cannot confront a girl about beating a dog?
If he had seen it before, why, rather than telling the owner, telling the child's parents, or telling the cops, did he allow the situation where the dog was beaten again, then decide to film it?
And what if he didn't have a camera - what then? Just let the dog get beaten and tut-tut about it?
Have we got to such a point where confrontation is so worrisome that a grown man cannot confront a girl about beating a dog?
If he had seen it before, why, rather than telling the owner, telling the child's parents, or telling the cops, did he allow the situation where the dog was beaten again, then decide to film it?
And what if he didn't have a camera - what then? Just let the dog get beaten and tut-tut about it?
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:15amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
But it sounds like if he hadn't filmed it people wouldn't have believed him because they thought she was an animal lover.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:25amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
But it sounds like if he hadn't filmed it people wouldn't have believed him because they thought she was an animal lover.
Pretty sure being an animal lover is illegal too.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:25amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I think by animal lover they were talking about how she loves eating animals.
See the size of her? Fat arse 12 year old that's for sure.
See the size of her? Fat arse 12 year old that's for sure.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:30amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
But it sounds like if he hadn't filmed it people wouldn't have believed him because they thought she was an animal lover.
Of course they thought she was an animal lover. Everyone is assumed to be one until you see them beating an animal.
If he confronted them, they didn't believe her and later saw she continued to bash the dog, then he could have filmed it as proof.
I'm someone who thinks it's better to prevent a crime than allow it to happen and catch the offender. To me this just shows how piss poor relationships between neighbours have become in some parts of the world, where people will accept and allow bad things to happen before taking action.
We've told people to treat their pets better or we'll call the cops. It creates animosity, but also the animals are treated better.
Anyway, it's in the Sun. I wouldn't be surprised if they paid the girl money to beat the dog to get a headline...
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:35amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Even if he filmed it as evidence it shouldn't have been shown to the general public because it will encourage other dumb fucks to hurt animals.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:50amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
although what that chick has done is pretty horrible in itself, abusing animals is often a sign of a child being seriously disturbed. again often as as a consequence of being physically abused themselves, and subsequently taking it out on something weaker than they are.
$50 says she's taking a beating (or more) from one/both of her parents, but i guess thats not going to get filmed and put in the sun.
$50 says she's taking a beating (or more) from one/both of her parents, but i guess thats not going to get filmed and put in the sun.
Erk
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 10:51amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
no rob, one better
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
Road SAFETY minister
:lol:
probably Erika :E
You idiot.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 11:07amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
although what that chick has done is pretty horrible in itself, abusing animals is often a sign of a child being seriously disturbed. again often as as a consequence of being physically abused themselves, and subsequently taking it out on something weaker than they are.
$50 says she's taking a beating (or more) from one/both of her parents, but i guess thats not going to get filmed and put in the sun.
$50 says she's taking a beating (or more) from one/both of her parents, but i guess thats not going to get filmed and put in the sun.
Yes that was my first thought too, and/or she could have a psychological disorder.
I didn't watch the video, but if it went on for so long in that instance it's weird that her family hadn't noticed her being mean to any animals at all in the past.
Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 8:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Fucking only 9 months for this is bullshit.
Anglican priest Barry Greaves jailed for sexually abusing three boys
AAP
April 24, 2009 01:33pm
A FORMER Anglican priest and chaplain to Brisbane archbishops Peter Hollingworth and Phillip Aspinall will spend nine months in jail for sexually abusing three altar boys.
Barry John Greaves, 71, abused the children when he was working as an Anglican rector for the Boonah and Harrisville districts, southwest of Brisbane, in the early 1980s, the Brisbane District Court was told today.
The boys, aged between 11 and 16 at the time, were forced to engage in mutual oral sex and masturbation with Greaves.
Prosecutor Jody-Ann Thomas said Greaves had abused his position of trust, befriending one of his victims as the boy grieved after the death of his father.
''(He) callously adopted a father role ... only to abuse it for his own sexual gratification,'' she said.
He sentenced Greaves to three years' jail, to be suspended after nine months.
The offences came to light in 2004 when one of the victims reported the abuse to police.
The court was told the abuse has had a devastating effect on the three victims. One wrote in a victim impact statement of "significant detrimental effects'' on his social development.
Another said giving evidence at the committal hearing was the "most harrowing day'' of his adult life, with another saying it "broke my spirit''.
The victims were in court when Greaves pleaded guilty to seven counts of indecent treatment of boys under 17 and two of indecent treatment of boys under 14.
Defence barrister Mark Johnson said his client was "genuinely remorseful'' for his actions and that he had not committed any crimes since these offences.
Senior Judge Gilbert Trafford-Walker said Greaves had brought "disgrace'' upon the Anglican church. He said child sex crimes committed by priests had sullied the reputation of churches over the years.
Greaves has been a priest in the Anglican church for 47 years and served as archbishop's chaplain from 1999-2003.
Anglican priest Barry Greaves jailed for sexually abusing three boys
AAP
April 24, 2009 01:33pm
A FORMER Anglican priest and chaplain to Brisbane archbishops Peter Hollingworth and Phillip Aspinall will spend nine months in jail for sexually abusing three altar boys.
Barry John Greaves, 71, abused the children when he was working as an Anglican rector for the Boonah and Harrisville districts, southwest of Brisbane, in the early 1980s, the Brisbane District Court was told today.
The boys, aged between 11 and 16 at the time, were forced to engage in mutual oral sex and masturbation with Greaves.
Prosecutor Jody-Ann Thomas said Greaves had abused his position of trust, befriending one of his victims as the boy grieved after the death of his father.
''(He) callously adopted a father role ... only to abuse it for his own sexual gratification,'' she said.
He sentenced Greaves to three years' jail, to be suspended after nine months.
The offences came to light in 2004 when one of the victims reported the abuse to police.
The court was told the abuse has had a devastating effect on the three victims. One wrote in a victim impact statement of "significant detrimental effects'' on his social development.
Another said giving evidence at the committal hearing was the "most harrowing day'' of his adult life, with another saying it "broke my spirit''.
The victims were in court when Greaves pleaded guilty to seven counts of indecent treatment of boys under 17 and two of indecent treatment of boys under 14.
Defence barrister Mark Johnson said his client was "genuinely remorseful'' for his actions and that he had not committed any crimes since these offences.
Senior Judge Gilbert Trafford-Walker said Greaves had brought "disgrace'' upon the Anglican church. He said child sex crimes committed by priests had sullied the reputation of churches over the years.
Greaves has been a priest in the Anglican church for 47 years and served as archbishop's chaplain from 1999-2003.
Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 10:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
Owners Reunited With Chihuahua Two Days After Dog Blew Away in High Winds
It's a story right out of "The Wizard of Oz" except the setting is Michigan, not Kansas.
Bystanders at a Detroit-area flea market were stunned this weekend when high winds from a passing storm picked up a couple's Chihuahua puppy and blew her out of sight.
After two days of searching and consulting with a pet psychic, Tinkerbell was found almost a mile away in the woods dirty but unharmed.
Her owner's name? Dorothy.
"We were shocked when we found her," Dorothy Utley, 72, told The Detroit News. "You don't know how happy we were. We love her so much."
Joe Goldberg, manager of the Dixieland Flea Market in Waterford Township, where the Utleys are regular vendors, said he saw Tinkerbell, weighing about 6 pounds, blow away when he went outside to survey the damage wrought by the hurricane-force wind gusts.
"I saw a flash," he told ABCNews.com. "It lifted off. Gone."
A Rottweiler sitting nearby, he said, didn't budge.
"This dog was picked up at least 60 feet," he said. "It's just a fluke."
Goldberg said he has since reviewed the flea market's surveillance cameras for evidence of the incident, but none were trained on that spot at the instant Tinkerbell blew away.
AccuWeather.com meteorologist Carrie McCabe told ABCNews.com that strong storms in what she called a "bow echo" shape did pass through that area late morning into early afternoon Saturday, causing wind gusts of 65 to 70 mph in some places.
Although she couldn't say whether that would be enough to launch a Chihuahua into the air, McCabe said that, for comparison, tornado-force winds can start at 40 to 72 mph. Category 1 hurricane winds, she said, range from 74 to 95 mph.
The flea market's Goldberg said, "So much stuff was destroyed. We worked for two days cleaning stuff up."
And yet, he said, some fellow vendors closed up shop for the day to help the Utleys search for their dog, losing what amounted to a day's pay.
"She said, 'Oh my God, my dog blew away,' and 40 people ran over," Goldberg said.
Chuck Myers, another Dixieland vendor, said he was at his booth inside the market -- the Utleys sell outside -- when the storm blew through. As he went out to survey the damage, he heard about what had happened to Tinkerbell.
So he picked up Dorothy Utley in his truck and the two drove off in search of her dog, stopping to tell nearby park visitors and residents about what had happened in case they saw something.
"No way did I ever think they'd find the dog," Myers said, adding that he thought someone took her home or that she'd been killed.
Utley, he said, " was very concerned. She was talking about all the joy she brought to her life."
Tinkerbell, Goldberg said, had filled a void for the Utleys left by the deaths of their three sons.
Now that Tinkerbell is safe and sound, Goldberg said he expects her to become the flea market's newest attraction. "She'll probably be a celebrity forever," he said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7449042&page=1
:lol: I don't know what's funnier - the fact that the dograt was blown away, or they hired a pet psychic to find it
It's a story right out of "The Wizard of Oz" except the setting is Michigan, not Kansas.
Bystanders at a Detroit-area flea market were stunned this weekend when high winds from a passing storm picked up a couple's Chihuahua puppy and blew her out of sight.
After two days of searching and consulting with a pet psychic, Tinkerbell was found almost a mile away in the woods dirty but unharmed.
Her owner's name? Dorothy.
"We were shocked when we found her," Dorothy Utley, 72, told The Detroit News. "You don't know how happy we were. We love her so much."
Joe Goldberg, manager of the Dixieland Flea Market in Waterford Township, where the Utleys are regular vendors, said he saw Tinkerbell, weighing about 6 pounds, blow away when he went outside to survey the damage wrought by the hurricane-force wind gusts.
"I saw a flash," he told ABCNews.com. "It lifted off. Gone."
A Rottweiler sitting nearby, he said, didn't budge.
"This dog was picked up at least 60 feet," he said. "It's just a fluke."
Goldberg said he has since reviewed the flea market's surveillance cameras for evidence of the incident, but none were trained on that spot at the instant Tinkerbell blew away.
AccuWeather.com meteorologist Carrie McCabe told ABCNews.com that strong storms in what she called a "bow echo" shape did pass through that area late morning into early afternoon Saturday, causing wind gusts of 65 to 70 mph in some places.
Although she couldn't say whether that would be enough to launch a Chihuahua into the air, McCabe said that, for comparison, tornado-force winds can start at 40 to 72 mph. Category 1 hurricane winds, she said, range from 74 to 95 mph.
The flea market's Goldberg said, "So much stuff was destroyed. We worked for two days cleaning stuff up."
And yet, he said, some fellow vendors closed up shop for the day to help the Utleys search for their dog, losing what amounted to a day's pay.
"She said, 'Oh my God, my dog blew away,' and 40 people ran over," Goldberg said.
Chuck Myers, another Dixieland vendor, said he was at his booth inside the market -- the Utleys sell outside -- when the storm blew through. As he went out to survey the damage, he heard about what had happened to Tinkerbell.
So he picked up Dorothy Utley in his truck and the two drove off in search of her dog, stopping to tell nearby park visitors and residents about what had happened in case they saw something.
"No way did I ever think they'd find the dog," Myers said, adding that he thought someone took her home or that she'd been killed.
Utley, he said, " was very concerned. She was talking about all the joy she brought to her life."
Tinkerbell, Goldberg said, had filled a void for the Utleys left by the deaths of their three sons.
Now that Tinkerbell is safe and sound, Goldberg said he expects her to become the flea market's newest attraction. "She'll probably be a celebrity forever," he said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7449042&page=1
:lol: I don't know what's funnier - the fact that the dograt was blown away, or they hired a pet psychic to find it
Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 11:21amrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
:rofl:
I wish they hired Ace Ventura
Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 3:33pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
And people wonder why I don't take my chihuahuas out of the house very often!
Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 6:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I thought it was the embaressment at owning chihuahuas :E
Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 6:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
She admits to dressing them up; she has no shame.
Posted: 30 Apr 2009, 12:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
I inherited them, and they wear clothes to keep warm :tongue
Posted: 30 Apr 2009, 2:48pmrecoveredSubject: Re: In The News Today
TMZ is reporting that TUPAC IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!
He has been spotted in a bar in new orleans!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/04/0428_tupac_lives_ex_launch.jpg)
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/)
:lol:
He has been spotted in a bar in new orleans!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/04/0428_tupac_lives_ex_launch.jpg)
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/)
:lol: