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Started by timboh · 28 Jan 2008 · 39 posts survive · see it on the Wayback Machine

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timbohPosts: 2,786
Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 2:49pmSubject: Soundproofing
just wondering if any of you guys or girls have soundproofed a room? if so what did you use, how much did it cost and what are some nice cheap materials to use?

cheers.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 2:53pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
I've wanted to find some decent materials also, without having to relayer walls. All the commercial grade stuff I've found has been rather pricey per sq/m.

Just do what Fresh FM did and glue packing sponge to the walls  biggrin
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 7:13pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
egg cartons icon_wink
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 7:41pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
if you've been into the production studio at fresh you'll see that the foam is alot better quality and on every wall. the room is dead with the door shut.
i recommend the foam. try clarks rubber i think they have it there. you dont need to do every wall either
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 7:45pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
if you've been into the production studio at fresh you'll see that the foam is alot better quality and on every wall. the room is dead with the door shut.
i recommend the foam. try clarks rubber i think they have it there. you dont need to do every wall either

You can buy the sound tile deadeners from Jaycar Electronics...

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AX3652&CATID=&keywords=sound+tiles&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AX3652&CATID=&keywords=sound+tiles&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 8:08pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
try clarks rubber i think they have it there. you dont need to do every wall either

clarks have the standard phone and the dimpled/egg carton shaped foam

bit $ive but it does the job
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 8:09pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
clarks have the standard phone and the dimpled/egg carton shaped foam

bit $ive but it does the job
how is a standard phone gonna help it ? teef
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Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 8:21pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
laugh

err foam

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teef
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 2:24pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
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before you go nuts buying this shit recommended by teh posters below teef
what exactly are you trying to soundproof for?

the methods described below are good for killing reverberating sound within the room (echoes) and good for recording, but will make fuck all difference to the sound transmitted throough the walls etc ~ if you're trying to limit this (ie because the neighbours, housemates etc) are complaining about noise, then it wont be so simple.

materials with different densities limit the transmssion of different frequencies... and unfortunately, absorbing bass requires a lot of heavier materials, discontinuous construction (second wall layers), plus sealed air gaps around door frames, key holes etc etc etc
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 2:37pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
We sell sheets of egg carton foam, purpose made for studios, it is UV treated and flame resistant. Comes in sheets of 5' x 7' and is good for large areas, if you have trouble with bass you will need purpose made bass traps etc. The sheets are $90ea.
timbohPosts: 2,786
Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 7:49pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
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before you go nuts buying this shit recommended by teh posters below teef
what exactly are you trying to soundproof for?



nothing right now, i am just thinking that with the current trend in house prices i may actually end up purchasing a unit. i love my music loud but also like to live in some sort of peace with the people around me. cheers to everyone for the input so far.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 8:01pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
I've found that egg cartons muffle the sounds of screaming children locked in the basement enough to keep the neighbours unaware of the horrors taking place over their side fence.

Most the kids I use are very young so most the screams are high pitched - don't really know how well it would work at keeping bass in.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 8:18pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
I've found that egg cartons muffle the sounds of screaming children locked in the basement enough to keep the neighbours unaware of the horrors taking place over their side fence.

Most the kids I use are very young so most the screams are high pitched - don't really know how well it would work at keeping bass in.

The screaming isn't usually a problem for me, but oh man the industrial meat-grinder is loud. It's not so much the meat, it's more when the bones go through.

Shit, that reminds me, I need a new freezer, the second one is almost full now.  icon_mad

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NoddyPosts: 3,990
Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 8:25pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
I've opted for pigs. You only need 2 medium size ones to clean up a young child in 5 minutes whilst one decent oinker can handle an infant in no time.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008, 8:48pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
nothing right now, i am just thinking that with the current trend in house prices i may actually end up purchasing a unit. i love my music loud but also like to live in some sort of peace with the people around me. cheers to everyone for the input so far.


aaah ok then.
cheapest option in your case is to turn the volume knob down
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 4:33amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
timboh i have done two rooms of my own for
proper noise insulation
and acoustic deadening, ive got couple of bags of sound insulating batts left over if  u want.
but in reality your walls are very good at absorbing most of the noise.
honestly biggest things performance v cost wise

- ravon door seal kit (full)
solid wood interior door
for windows a couple layers of thick acoustic curtains, with 10mm gap between.
thats 90% of your sound excaping gone easily. fotr me anyways
then just a bit here and there.

$500 per room in the end
but it was very effective.

pm me for more info about the geeky  side
reducing resonence, why too much is even worse etc
gets pretty full on.  what materials one would use.
and that foam tile is fuckn crap. unless its proper acoustic tile.

image not archived: acoustic_single.jpg thats carboard cheaper andmuch better performing, just under $50 for 12 square feet   
oliJust the
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 7:50amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
Just out of interest are people doing this to make a room sound better once you're inside or to not piss someone off on the outside?
roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 8:15amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
column a and b for me oli.  Im doing a room in my new house once/if it ever gets fukn built.  Keep posting, need more ideas  biggrin
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timbohPosts: 2,786
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 10:40amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
yeah same, bit of both but more leaning to not pissing people off outside.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:28amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
anyone got anything on making bass traps?  they're a bit costly to buy
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caleBanned
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 1:43pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
anyone got anything on making bass traps?  they're a bit costly to buy

i do, can be done heaps easily. just gotta think outside the box

what ya wanna know in particular
roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 3:28pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
how and how much basically, also have you come across much on the net about making them?
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caleBanned
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 3:37pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
what freq range are you trying to stop reflecting
and can u draw me a mud map of the room its goin in including furniture?
roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 8:13amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
Prob 200Hz and below i reckon (got  mid/high reflection sorted). Room is rectangular, 3m x 2.5m, 9ft ceilings & Carpet floors, window & curtain.  Wont be much shiz in it (desk + decks +records etc).  I dont think furnature is going to be an issue with low freqs tho... 
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caleBanned
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 8:17amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
thanks mate should be pretty easy. the corners of the rooms as gunna get 90 % of the attention.
but managing anything under 200hz is difficult due to the the long wave it produces. harder to trap than lil short ones
but ill come up with the best material/ designs combo for a decent price.
can you comfortable building things?
cos they are basic to put together once the designs made
save a small fortune is all
timbohPosts: 2,786
Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 8:30amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
hope this has all been cleared by the missus roost  laugh
roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 8:37amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
thanks mate should be pretty easy. the corners of the rooms as gunna get 90 % of the attention.
but managing anything under 200hz is difficult due to the the long wave it produces. harder to trap than lil short ones
but ill come up with the best material/ designs combo for a decent price.
can you comfortable building things?
cos they are basic to put together once the designs made
save a small fortune is all


Cool, cheers.  Yeah Im cool with putting something together, i can give you better detail in a week or two.  i actually pulled 200Hz of top of my head, but you get what i mean.

Oh and Tina doesnt know Tim, it will have to come out of my allowance  teef  laugh
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caleBanned
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 8:39amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
too easy ill get some rouch shit sorted today at some point
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 9:11amSubject: Re: Soundproofing


Oh and Tina doesnt know Tim, it will have to come out of my allowance  teef  laugh

bahahaha were livin in the same world  laugh
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roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 9:53amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
 laugh  *makes whipping noise*
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 10:23amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
These guys make some wicked soundproofing http://www.realtraps.com/info.htm if you do your homework you can copy the design and make yourself, i know people who have done so and use in their own studio.
caleBanned
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 10:25amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
you may have saved me some serious number crunching dan !
thank you lol
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 10:31amSubject: Re: Soundproofing
Thats why i'm here cale!  teef
roostR/evolution massive
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 12:32pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
Cheers Dan
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caleBanned
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 12:35pmSubject: Re: Soundproofing
number crunching is fun,
but man with acoustics
shit gets sooooooooooooooooooooo deep. hard to know where to stop.
point of diminishing return is hard to figure out accuratly