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inflatedPosts: 148
Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 1:21pmSubject: turntables or cdj's?
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have been looking at the range of turntables and cdj's available to buy etc (been wanting to give mixing a go), and was wondering which is it that most dj's/people prefer and why?
much respect!  biggrin
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 1:24pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Both!

Turntables = cooler and more fun but more expensive to buy vinyl

CD's = not that cool and not so fun, plus not everywhere has them, but mp3's are cheap.

Get both!
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 1:28pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
This is about the 15th reincarnation of this topic on AM...


But yeah im with leezee, both.  But if you do go to cdj's dont forget to buy tunes 
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 1:45pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
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have been looking at the range of turntables and cdj's available to buy etc (been wanting to give mixing a go), and was wondering which is it that most dj's/people prefer and why?
much respect!  biggrin

I'd say try and find someone who has a setup and have a play before you go buying ANYTHING!!! I've had a few mates go out a buy the whole kit and then let it sit there collecting dust. But in terms of turnies or CDJs, depends on whether or not you're interested in buying records!!! Def more expensive, but also more fun imo.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 2:42pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Serato!! with turnies obviously  Smiley


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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 2:45pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
CDJS are great when the turntables dont work properly which i find about 50% of the time... CDJs are great for playing in rooms with wooden floors too as sometimes the needles bounce with the dancefloor on normal turntables..

I have both but prefer DJing vinyl still...  Smiley
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 2:57pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
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..thought it might have been  lookaround   cdj's seem like a practical solution, but spinning vinyl is pure awesome
wheres the best place to check some out in adelaide?
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 2:59pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
..thought it might have been  lookaround   cdj's seem like a practical solution, but spinning vinyl is pure awesome
wheres the best place to check some out in adelaide?

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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 3:17pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Tape decks or STFU







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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 7:01pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Vinyl.

Can't believe this is even a question.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2008, 8:19pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Turntables = cooler and more fun but more expensive to buy vinyl

sorry rya
in my travels, there will more likely be a set of 1200s than CDs. ive even advised a new venue to go for decks before CDJs when they were wondering... i mean CDs for listening, Vinyl for playing. biggrin

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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 2:05pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Scratch live or STFU!

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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 4:49pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Is that Serato or the native instruments set up? Whats the difference? is Numarks 'virtual vinyl' the same?

Serato Scratch Live = King

Stanton Final Scratch used a special version of NI Traktor before they went separate ways. Traktor v3 onwards has FS support built-in anyway.

There is also M-Audio's Torq, Pink Lady, etc.

I've never used Numark's Virtual Vinyl so I can't comment on it, but I believe it is made by Atomix who created Virtual DJ.

Serato is the way.


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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 5:44pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
reel to reel ftw.
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 6:30pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
im all for vinyl. does anyone have any probs with cdjs if the cds are scratched? ie. jumping, skipping? d d d d d d d d d d dd d d d d d d  d d.
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 6:55pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
im all for vinyl. does anyone have any probs with cdjs if the cds are scratched? ie. jumping, skipping? d d d d d d d d d d dd d d d d d d  d d.


find that it usually more depends on the cdjs
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 7:08pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
serato is wicked. but i hate choosing tunes off the computer. its a real pisser
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 2:15amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
http://mashit.com/2007/11/12/club-dj...on-for-piracy/

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He said legitimate DJs were being undermined by pirates who could afford lower rates. "I've come across people that I've DJed alongside at various functions where their laptops have been filled with MP3s - they show it off," he said."If I'm going out buying vinyl and I've got some young buck with a computer full of 20,000 MP3s, it's hard to compete."


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I have used final scratch, for 6 monthes and its great if you are a bedroom dj playing the odd internet show here or there because the end sound isnt great anyway, but as soon as you get it out on a loud system and you amplify a crappy mp3, it sounds god awful - why do you think people dont record radio shows and upload the mp3's much anymore, because its not sounding good.

Also when you are downloading 128 mp3s instead of 320s and playing them, you record a mix with a 128 and then you re compress that wav file even more - as a further mp3 and it ends up sounding shocking.

The argument is, play Wav files, but the reality is no one does and there isnt enough space on your hard drive to store full wavs, and then... using an external portable hard drive is unstable.

Vinyl sounds better - always will.
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:54amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?

find that it usually more depends on the cdjs

Yup, ive played a certain tune on about 4 cdjs, on 2 of them it skipped and two it didnt...  Ive since got a new burner, yet to re-burn and try it tho... 
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 12:40pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
90% of scratches(unless they are deep) will depend on the strength of the laser, if its old & weak, its like dropping a log in front of a grandpa on a wheelchair - he's fucked. but if its a new laser/CDJ, the grandpa has a monster truck and your log aint nothin but a thang for his monstrosity of an automobile!!!

geddit?

i have CDJs - i like them. for many reasons. i chose them cos i see 90% of my fav dnb artists playing off CDs only when they come out, and now a lot use abelton/serato etc.. as a long time punter & "live" dnb listener, Wav or MP3 cds sound fine eg. HQ sound system Smiley

i would've loved to have chosen both, but in the end i'm stoked with my choice & i love my Mk3s - i also love the fact that i can whip up a collection of tunes from any genre in bout 30mins thanks to beatport  music
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 2:46pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Is that Serato or the native instruments set up? Whats the difference? is Numarks 'virtual vinyl' the same?

Rane Serato Scratch Live.

Serato is actually the software manufacturer (from NZ) working in conjunction with rane to create scratch live.

I haven't used the NI unit yet, i've been waiting and waiting for them to send a demo version to play with but they haven't, used Numark its ok but not as easy to get around and doesn't have the support that Scratch live offers. M- Audio is ok too but again doesn't offer the support SL does and you have to pay for plugins. The price has dropped dramatically with the m-audio version too you can pick it up (full version) between $500 & $600

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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 2:56pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Scratch live shits all over the rest. Since I got mine, never looked back. Used final scratch and was crap, didnt like it at all


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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 4:55pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Rane Serato Scratch Live.

Serato is actually the software manufacturer (from NZ) working in conjunction with rane to create scratch live.

I haven't used the NI unit yet, i've been waiting and waiting for them to send a demo version to play with but they haven't, used Numark its ok but not as easy to get around and doesn't have the support that Scratch live offers. M- Audio is ok too but again doesn't offer the support SL does and you have to pay for plugins. The price has dropped dramatically with the m-audio version too you can pick it up (full version) between $500 & $600

so does that mean you need a Rane mixer then? $$$$$! and will any old decks do or do you need Rane decks(if they even make them)?
just tryin to weigh up the cost of all the different options. Mp3s may be cheap but if the equipment is too much then I'd just as quick turn to Vinyl!
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 5:11pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
so does that mean you need a Rane mixer then? $$$$$! and will any old decks do or do you need Rane decks(if they even make them)?
just tryin to weigh up the cost of all the different options. Mp3s may be cheap but if the equipment is too much then I'd just as quick turn to Vinyl!

You don't need a Rane mixer, and Rane don't even make decks.

Use your original decks
Use your original cartridges
Use your original mixer

Add laptop and Serato box connected in-between decks and mixer

Slap on the control plates

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Melvin SmileyPosts: 488
Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 3:47pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
You don't need a Rane mixer, and Rane don't even make decks.

Use your original decks
Use your original cartridges
Use your original mixer

Add laptop and Serato box connected in-between decks and mixer

Slap on the control plates

Pop your collar and your done

Sweet! all sounds too easy.
can ya rip off one of the control plates mid-mix and whack on some wax? (is that asking too much?)
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 5:31pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
Sweet! all sounds too easy.
can ya rip off one of the control plates mid-mix and whack on some wax? (is that asking too much?)

Go looking for a Demo, mate...   Smiley But I recon you've answered your question..

I'm also sure there are a number of Retail Sales people in Adelaide who would be Ultra keen to show you.
Places of which have already been expressed in this Thread too...  teef

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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 5:38pmSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
can ya rip off one of the control plates mid-mix and whack on some wax? (is that asking too much?)

Ahh Mr Serato box has pass-through phono outputs for such an endeavor, so you can switch to normal vinyl by hitting your mixer's line/phono selector.
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:41amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
I have the Rane TTM57SL version (the mixer version) set up in shop for when i'm bored  music if you want a demo come check it at the forestville store.... I'm here tomorrow and saturdays this time of year are usually quiet so i can spend some time with you on it if you want.

Its the future.

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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:53amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
love the fact that i can whip up a collection of tunes from any genre in bout 30mins thanks to beatport  music

To me this is one of the greatest advantages i get using serato, i can not be 1 step ahead but 10. My tunes are in my crate before others have put their payment through and the postage stamp licked. Boo Yah!

Love vinyl but, i love being infront more. The only disadvantage.... not all labels available for digital download especially in dubstep but, it is getting better and i'm not down with illegal downloads.

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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 10:51amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
I have the Rane TTM57SL version (the mixer version) set up in shop for when i'm bored  music if you want a demo come check it at the forestville store.... I'm here tomorrow and saturdays this time of year are usually quiet so i can spend some time with you on it if you want.

Its the future.

hey, wont make it down there today but i'll definately be there soon!
The future indeed!
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 10:55amSubject: Re: turntables or cdj's?
See you in the future.... biggrin