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Started by Melvin Smiley · 8 Mar 2011 · 14 posts survive · see it on the Wayback Machine

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Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 4:01pmSubject: sports ethics
I recently colluded with my brother to trade him players in an online fantasy basketball game which has left me feeling kinda dirty.  Sure I"d do it again but I'd still feel bad but its made me wonder, am I as bad as someone taking a dive in soccer or bowling a no ball in that other game and if so just how bad is that?  Are the players accused of spot fixing really in league with the devil or is it only the gambling world who suffers from these small incidents?
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Pseudo CoupPosts: 2,698
Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 7:18pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Lack of adequately proportioned incentivisation for risk of it backfiring and effecting personal status in a parochial league of friends and acquaintances makes it a mystifying choice. Any analogue to sports cheating is fairly loose and probably obscures more than it clarifies. Either way, it just seems remarkably lame considering the incentive was so minute that even given the ostensibly tiny loss from it backfiring it is still a Risk vs Reward calculation that clearly comes out in the negative for you.
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QuazzaPosts: 13,620
Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 7:21pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Quote from: Pseudo Coup on 08/03/2011, 07:18 PM
Lack of adequately proportioned incentivisation for risk of it backfiring and effecting personal status in a parochial league of friends and acquaintances makes it a mystifying choice. Any analogue to sports cheating is fairly loose and probably obscures more than it clarifies. Either way, it just seems remarkably lame considering the incentive was so minute that even given the ostensibly tiny loss from it backfiring it is still a Risk vs Reward calculation that clearly comes out in the negative for you.

 :lol:

/Pseudothread
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 7:32pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Quote from: Pseudo Coup on 08/03/2011, 07:18 PM
Lack of adequately proportioned incentivisation for risk of it backfiring and effecting personal status in a parochial league of friends and acquaintances makes it a mystifying choice. Any analogue to sports cheating is fairly loose and probably obscures more than it clarifies. Either way, it just seems remarkably lame considering the incentive was so minute that even given the ostensibly tiny loss from it backfiring it is still a Risk vs Reward calculation that clearly comes out in the negative for you.

agree

although I did see it as a nothing to loose and nothing to gain situation.
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oliI am the
Posts: 6,101
Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 11:04pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Sorry but how is trading players anything like taking a dive or whatever else? I don't see the relation.
khemPosts: 16,657
Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 7:21amSubject: Re: sports ethics
trading players wasnt the issue.

colluding with your brother and trading average players from your team for much better players in you brother's team to stack the talent going into the finals of our fantasy basketball league was the issue.

:lol:
oliI am the
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Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 11:10amSubject: Re: sports ethics
Quote from: Melvin Smiley on 08/03/2011, 07:32 PM
loose

You better apologise like Hitler would if he changed his views towards the Jews in 1945 in your next post in this thread...

Quote from: khem on 09/03/2011, 07:21 AM
colluding with your brother and trading average players from your team for much better players in you brother's team to stack the talent going into the finals of our fantasy basketball league was the issue.

Ah I see. I wasn't really aware of this fantasy league thing. :E
oliI am the
Posts: 6,101
Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 11:34amSubject: Re: sports ethics
Yeah I saw it, I just had no real clue what that was. ;)

I guess if it makes you feel better Melvin I have fantasies that make me feel kinda dirty as well.
fritzgibbonPosts: 638
Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 3:50pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
 :lol:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 4:02pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Quote from: oli on 09/03/2011, 11:34 AM
I guess if it makes you feel better Melvin I have fantasies that make me feel kinda dirty as well.
   :lol:

Quote from: oli on 09/03/2011, 11:10 AM
You better apologise like Hitler would if he changed his views towards the Jews in 1945 in your next post in this thread...
das ist ein sorry?

Quote from: khem on 09/03/2011, 07:21 AM
colluding with your brother and trading average players from your team for much better players in you brother's team to stack the talent going into the finals
other way round dude, not that it changes it one bit but im the one who was giving up the gold for him to take to the finals

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LeezeeThe right honourable
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 9:13amSubject: Re: sports ethics
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oliI am the
Posts: 6,101
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 12:10pmSubject: Re: sports ethics
Tight!