Earthlings (documentary)

EARTHLINGS is an award-winning documentary film about the suffering of animals for food, fashion, pets, entertainment and medical research. Considered the most persuasive documentary ever made, EARTHLINGS is nicknamed “the Vegan maker” for its sensitive footage shot at animal shelters, pet stores, puppy mills, factory farms, slaughterhouses, the leather and fur trades, sporting events, circuses and research labs.

The film is narrated by Academy Award® nominee Joaquin Phoenix and features music by platinum-selling recording artist Moby. Initially ignored by distributors, today EARTHLINGS is considered the definitive animal rights film by organizations around the world. “Of all the films I have ever made, this is the one that gets people talking the most,” said Phoenix. “For every one person who sees EARTHLINGS, they will tell three.

http://www.earthlings.com/

This doesn't look like the movie thread to me. Just for that transgression I am going to continue eating 5 - 10 Kilos of meat a week. You nearly had me as well.

meat is murder!




































tasty tasty murder!

1. Not a movie
2. The documentary is not only about meat, but suffering of all animals.
3. I made this into its own thread so more people can see it.

1. Unless you feel adequately skilled to revolutionise the rules of language, yes it is.
2. I am aware of that, but outside of the odd leather bound book, and maybe the future prospect of shooting things for sport; I don't consume meat in any other way.
3. I am aware of your incentives. Why not give an opinion and stick it in the Soapbox? Presented without commentary it is Movie Thread fodder and nothing else, and it is far too smug, self-important and pretentious a subject for the Random Banter section either way.

As this "movie" is far from entertainment I felt that it should be place somewhere else.
So I stuck it here.... if khem wants to move it.... so be it...

I have no opinion over it, the docco speaks for itself, Its here for other peoples viewing.

Of course you have an opinion, otherwise you wouldn't give it its own thread in an apparent act of folk activism.

Stop using quotes incorrectly. It fits the exact, and notably broad, definition of a movie exactly.

What makes this one so "definitive"? The fact that Joaquin Phoenix and Moby have been trotted out to celeb it up a little? (Much like getting Russell Crowe to narrate that woeful Ben Hur Arena spectacular last year.)

This sounds like the same thing the doco Supermarket Secrets trotted out nearly 10 years ago and I haven't seen Tesco's growth slow down yet!

Hell we could go even further back and bring up Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle". At least that got something to change. Though I think more so because humans were dying for our food and not just the animals. The majority of people really don't bother questioning how something got on their plate and until the greedy producers and sellers bring the price down on anything that's a better alternative (organic, free range, etc.) there will be no incentive to change.

Rather than blow a heap of cash on yet another doco why not fund ways to bring the cost of responsible practices down. I know why, because hippy filmmakers like the opportunity to feel like they're making a difference.

  


the judges have judged! 

Why don't you just give it a watch before you start bagging the shit out of it?

Why do you keep avoiding invitations to further conversation about a subject clearly close enough to your heart for you to start an intentionally misplaced thread about it? Even for Folk Activism this is some pretty perfunctory status signaling slacktivism.

I started watching this after a very dear, learned and educated friend went vego (not vegan) as a result.

Im more stoic in my fatalistic views on human evolution so it didnt change my views, but nonetheless, I already attempt to buy 'happy' meat etc from certified free range farms and suppliers as opposed to battery farming where possible.
you are what you eat and all that 

I'd say he probably would be willing to have a proper intelligent conversation about the matter if you didn't have a dig at him almost straight away.

Strider, I'd watch the movie but I would probably cry.  I think it's great that they created the documentary, considering there will be people out there that are uninformed on issues such as animal cruelty.  Good luck to them, and I hope it makes a difference

It won't. Not in a statistically significant way anyway. If there was any threat of it I'd have to trade my glib and flippant attitude for passionate polemic. It is another ridiculous cause of the post-scarcity west: morally misguided and slightly harmful to 3rd world nations and the great unwashed alike.

To be honest, fuck the animals, the main question I have in this thread is what Strider understands the word Movie to mean?

Trying to dictate the terms of intelligent conversation on an internet message board seems a bit precious to me. Discuss.... Or don't.

Pseudo Coup I have highlighted the points below which show you don't genuinely acknowledge this is an internet message board despite apparently seeking an intelligent discussion.


 

  Touche

Now give me an invite to what.cd

That is, if Spanky's request has already been seen to.

FUCK YEAH!

Yeah!





 

  Bringing on the urge for a midnight snack, Mr Ache.

The inhabitants of my fridge on an average week:

Too humane! BOOOO

The pics I mean! Battery farms FTW

Oh, there is plenty of chicken in there as well. It mitigates some of the cost of Buffalo and Emu for starters.

If animals weren't supposed to be eaten by humans, they'd be smarter and far less delicious.

 

At the last few posts. Strider's gonna be pissed!

Not pissed at all really.

Just posted the vid for those who give a shit. but whatever.

Hence Glachlan's smiley.

I give a shit. A few people do. You are just no fun. You refuse to get involved with subjects close to your heart. This is a message board, nothing happens if you don't return the ball. It isn't like face to face. This is your thread. Get involved. I feel like you are taking things too seriously. The dismissive and judgmental asshole thing is just my rhetorical style; I'm listening.

Also, finish this sentence for me: To me, the word movie means.....


Also, after dinner meat update: I'm pretty sure the taste of grass-fed beef, cooked rare, is the voice of the divine trying to subtly tell us that life is worth living. Discuss.

Well done guys, well done.

 

Watch the movie, John, it opens with that old bullshit canard about the early reactions to truth being ridicule and violent opposition. All we are doing is reasserting the confidence of his position.

There's not much to discuss here, because you're obviously correct.


Edit - Btw Pseudo, what are the buffalo rib-eyes from Wild Oz like? Saw them there the other day and was oh so tempted, but ended up going with a peking duck.

Don't be ridiculous, I don't have time to watch these things.

Once the novelty wears off, you soon realise beef is much nicer

I've only had Buffalo a couple of times and never been overly impressed. It's alright but it's very similar to beef.

I'm a pretty big fan of Buffalo, but it does taste a lot like beef, just slightly gamier. I think it is better than a cheap beef cut, but doesn't live up to better steaks. If you do get it, just realise it takes no time whatsoever to cook Buffalo, and you can do it on low heat. Unlike the other meats they sell though, it doesn't have a distinct taste that you can't get from regular meats. I stock it mostly for a low fat beef substitute, but grass-fed gets around that by being full of good fats anyway.

I prefer to eat cuter animals. When I was in Germany I loved deer! The thought of eating an animal that had been the basis for a Disney film just made my stomach do whatever a stomach does when it is waiting for something delicious.

On that note I am pretty keen to try elephant (Dumbo) and lion (The Lion King).

Venison is great. One of my favourite meats.

co sign

I love how this thread has turned into a discussion about meat.

Earthlings (us) eat meat. I don't see anything strange.

why is there no disney film about squid then?

those salt & pepper bitches be getting in my belly something crazy

I only eat vertebrates.

Besides, squid aren't cute.

Are there any squid in The Little Mermaid? Perhaps in the background?

Pork is still my favourite meat. I instantly scan menus for pork dishes and if done right will send me off on a little bliss bubble.

 Same, always go for the pork dishes.

pork with a side of duck is our stapple when me and Subbo are man dating

By the way, this thread gets the seal of approval.

Anyone tried seal?

I bought a small rack of venison from Wild Oz today. I wont be eating it until tomorrow and I've never cooked it before. What do you recommend I do with it?

Feel free to jump in Q.

Zee Germans do a fair bit of cooking with venison I think, maybe try something in that style.

A quick Google came up with this...sounds very nice!

Roasted Rack of Venison with Port and Red Currant Sauce

Edit: At any rate, even if you don't do that actual recipe it has some interesting tips about venison in there as well.

Also this sounds great...anything involving beer and honey has to be worthy of consideration: Grilled Venison Rack With Honey Brown Lager Raspberry Sauce

Cheers man, both of those sound pretty damned good to me.

I tried a traditional venison meal in Munich. I can't handle stuff like that. Wayyyy too heavy.

Best not to ask me for cooking advice. Although I am slowly on the improve, I am lazy, uncreative, and lacking in knowledge. Plus, although I have been a bit loose with it in the last month, my usually strict adherence to Paleo dieting really is incredibly restrictive.

Ordered a couple of paleo cooking books and have a big fuck off general cooking book that I plan on working my way through though. I also have to cook almost every time I want to eat, so experience is not hard to come by these days.

High heat, real quickly in pan.

On a sidenote, I'm about to go and have a large Teriyaki chicken rice and salad with no rice for lunch.
Teriyaki sauce. It's drinkable. I wonder what it would be like carbonated?

got a sodastream?

Unfortunately not. The housemate took it when he moved out. Being that it was his, I thought that was fair.

they're back I hear......

Made this last night. Well, kind of anyway. I already had an orange & balsamic glaze made with duck stock left over from the night before, so I soaked the meat in that for a bit, put on some salt, pepper and chilli. Then seared it on all sides, poured the glaze back over it and roasted it for a few mins in the oven. Once it was cooked and the meat was resting, I sauteed some shallots in port like the recipe said, added some garlic, ginger and red currant jelly and then the put the rest of the glaze in with it. Served with some crispy pan fried potatoes and topped the meat with the sauce and some very crispy sweet potato slivers.

Holy shit good! The venison was fkn amazingly good, though I think if I'd followed the recipe exactly it would have started to get tough. I only cooked it for about half the suggested time.

lol course u fkn did

It was left over from a crispy skinned duck breast I had the night before too. You would have loved it.

just put my notice in at work. Get the duck roasting and cut off some fresh hose for the bucket

What is this mate, the Shangri-La? You think I'm gonna put on fuckin airs and graces for you?

in a nutshell?

Yes

X2 seen an ad on telly the othernight for them and thought 'oh dear'

Perhaps if you owned anything with sleeves I would.

 

Fine quality Nylex I presume. Nothing less for the Shangri-La.

  and a virgin polyethylene bucket, no doubt

Hey I'm always fully sleeved