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Pendulum declare DNB is dead

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khemAdministrator
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Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 8:29pmSubject: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
http://www.beatportal.com/blogs/post/pendulum-strike-back/

Pendulum have always been an act to drive debate and controversy within the drum & bass community.

Since ‘Hold Your Colour’ and their collaboration with Freestylers, many have seen this Australian dance act as being either too commercial or regarded as saviours of the scene.

This week, Pendulum release their new single ‘Granite’, a track from their forthcoming album that looks to drive the band more towards a live sound.

The track takes the act from their previous album, ‘Hold Your Colour’, and builds on their live elements.

Heavily present within this track are heavy guitars, full vocals and big drums; a hybrid between metal and drum & bass, which will appeal to some and not to others.

Many within the drum & bass community decided to label the act as a sell out.

This criticism was based on the act’s ability to sell records, hold sold out tours and leave behind their former indie label in order to move on to a bigger one.

Should this be considered selling out, or just the result of an act that produces great music that sells well?

After a lot of criticism on drum & bass forum, Dogs on Acid, Pendulum decided to respond with this comment:

“Okay, I’ve had just about enough of this.

“I don’t mind when people aren’t particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make I go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so I can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.

“The only comments I don’t get are the ones saying we’ve ‘sold out’.

“I define ‘selling out’ as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don’t really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

“The only way I think I could have really ‘sold myself out’ is if I had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc.

“Those tunes are cool for what they are, but I’ve moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group…

“If you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame Led Zeppelin, The Shadows, The Surf Coasters, Dead Kennedys, Dick Dale, Howlin’ Wolf, Weather Report, Tool, In Flames, Herb Alpert, Underoath and all the other stuff I’ve been listening to instead of drum and bass.

“We have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if I tried to explain it all.

“All I’ll say is, I wanted to make every single thing we’ve ever put out.

“Saying we ‘sold out’ is talking out your ass.

“I never wanted to make straight up dnb — it was never on the cards.

“Oh, and by the way - I’m not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (I’ve been in the studio / on tour too long to tell).

“However, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then I’m glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance.

“Wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again.’


The whole response can be seen by visiting the Dogs on Acid forum website: http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=40052ea33245a080435f0616602c37aa&threadid=536978&perpage=20&pagenumber=8

In the meantime, check ‘Granite’ out now and judge for yourself.

But whatever you do, just don’t tell Pendulum what you think!

And hold your breath for the Dillinja remix coming soon.....
Pseudo CoupPosts: 1,792
Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 9:12pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
being someone that doesnt believe they sold out, they just make what i consider to be shit tunes these days, i feel the need to point out that if half those groups he points out were responsible for their change in direction they should be making far better music. they quoted some great groups in that list, but i dont hear it in their current sound.
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Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 9:30pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 Why they feel the need to respond is seriously beyond me!

 It just encourages the negativity because people know it gets read.

 Deal with it. You have your fans, be happy with that. If you want to still have the respect/love of your original fans then stop making stuff that totally alienates them. What do they expect?  You can't have it all ways.
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LexyGlobal Moderator
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Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 9:31pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Pendulum suck.
WeezPosts: 1,140
Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 9:53pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

In the meantime, check ‘Granite’ out now and judge for yourself.

But whatever you do, just don’t tell Pendulum what you think!

And hold your breath for the Dillinja remix coming soon.....



i really hope thats a joke, i would actually rather hold my breath than listen to that dillinja remix...
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Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 10:37pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
first nas now pendulum laugh
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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 1:47amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
haha classic. Have to agree with Lexy on this one.
NoddyPosts: 7,430
Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 3:52amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm still not sure why we care what Pendulum have to say.

We certainly arent goinig to buy their tunes anymore. Either way, he's kidding himself ifnhe doesnt think Granite was made purely to sell records. Its by the numbers pap and obviously made to be bought  by the truckloads for those kids with no musical taste to buy. From where I'm sitting - thats selling out.
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roughandtumblePosts: 431
Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 4:29amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm still not sure why we care what Pendulum have to say.

exactly... at the end of the day pendulum are just a tiny drop in the ocean of this music i've been listening to... for what... 17 years now.

there's plenty out there that still really pushes my buttons, and that's all that matters to me.

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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 7:02amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
in other news, Pendulum declare DNB is not dead teef

http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?threadid=541470&cache=179

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dnb's "major players" have told me to stop posting here and getting caught up in shit that a small minority constantly dish out...since they don't bother with it or post either, we should be above it... and i'm inclined to agree. i've asked XO to remove our accounts, except for our manager jho's one (pendulumhq) so that he can keep anyone who still wants to know updated, although most of our fans now have probably never even heard of DOA.

to everyone in the scene i pissed off with that "stale pig shit" comment - you took it the wrong way (or i wrote it the wrong way). it was aimed at some people on DOA that claimed "we killed drum and bass" - and i was trying to say that ANY genre (not just dnb) that can be toppled by one artist alone...probably deserves to die. for example, even miles davis couldn't have toppled jazz.

do i personally think dnb is dead? fuck no. its sounding better than it has for the last 3 years, and i'm loving the resurgeance of the old-school sound used in an innovative way (like that new track by mistabishi).

my only real problem with dnb (which i also tried to point out with my other post but fucked it up)... is the insular thinking that sometimes pollutes every electronic scene. when people don't look outside their given genre / scene for musical inspiration, things tend to get boring and tired very quickly. the music goes in circles, repeating itself...the amount of fans never changes, new people aren't attracted to the scene to give it fresh input and shit gets stale very quickly. all the drum n bass i have really liked since i got into it sounded like it took inspiration from different places...

jazz'n'bass, trance'n'bass, the hardcore/gabba inspired kick sound from messiah, kemal & rob's detroit techno influences in general, the disco sound founded by sonic n silver / j majik, all the reggae / ragga / dub influences...that was when drum n bass inspired ME. they borrowed from other places and combined it to bring something totally new to the table - just like zeppelin did with blues and rock, albeit to a lesser audience.

what DON'T i want to hear? dnb inspired by dnb...techstep inspired by techstep...jumpup inspired by jumpup...edits inspired by edits...pendulum-clones, and so forth.

why? because to me, its uninspired, boring, and you soon find yourself locked into a genre that has limited potential and shelf life - even more so if people are too scared to branch out into new sounds because of what some fuckwits on internet forums like this might say. both of those are what i've spent my time trying to avoid and overcome, since about a year before the hold your colour album (incidentally, thats also what the album's title meant).

so yeah...hopefully i've cleared things up - i can't say i didn't mean to offend, because to be honest theres been certain times (including that one) that if i was locked in a room with some of the people on DOA that have talked shit about us constantly for the length of our career, i would beat them to fucking death out of sheer vented energy alone. i'll always love dnb, but fuck these internet commentators who will never amount to anything themselves...i'm not gonna waste any more of my life bothering to read what they have to say.

to those people who've hounded us on here: from the bottom of my heart - fuck you.

to the rest of the scene: all the love / respect in the world.

to all our fans / supporters (we must have some on here, since granite is the #1 selling download on DOA): see you in 2008...its gonna be a year to remember Smiley ...and by the way, if DOA is your main source of news / info on us, pendulum.com will finally be launched this week i think, and we'll keep you updated from there)

adios
rob & the rest of pendulum
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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 7:17amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
In furthe news, Rob needs to lear where the SHIFT key is on his keyboard.

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ErkPosts: 4,199
Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 8:48amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
It has fucking infuriated me for pendulum to even think that they deserve to be put in the same field, even sentence as Miles Davis, and Led Zepplin? WHO THE hell do they think they are? Sounds like Big head syndrome

Pendulum are only a small part of the history of DNB (and good on em for that), but fuck me they are only a tincey wincey part of the music industry. Maybe they should take a better prospective on things and who they really are?

shesh... next they will be saying they are in the same league as Britney spears  aargh "blah blah blah im such a superstar, dnb is dead"

bahahaha "Roccck and roll is deeead" get a new line buddy

what a bunch of toss. If ya make music and it sells good on ya for being successful but when you are in that field you open a whole lotta doorways for scrutiny. thats the nature of the game. get over it mate

However I do agree that they are trying to be experimental and i do give them credit for that. that takes guts and I guess it would be infuriating all of the time to get knocked down all of the time by a bunch of fuckwits on DOA.

I hate DOA

the second statement they released IMO was just damage control. He needs to get a media manager to control what comes out of his mouth.




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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 8:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
It has fucking infuriated me for pendulum to even think that they deserve to be put in the same field, even sentence as Miles Davis, and Led Zepplin? WHO THE hell do they think they are? Sounds like Big head syndrome

Pendulum are only a small part of the history of DNB (and good on em for that), but fuck me they are only a tincey wincey part of the music industry. Maybe they should take a better prospective on things and who they really are?

shesh... next they will be saying they are in the same league as Britney spears  :aargh: "blah blah blah im such a superstar, dnb is dead"

bahahaha "Roccck and roll is deeead" get a new line buddy

what a bunch of toss. If ya make music and it sells good on ya for being successful but when you are in that field you open a whole lotta doorways for scrutiny. thats the nature of the game. get over it mate

However I do agree that they are trying to be experimental and i do give them credit for that. that takes guts and I guess it would be infuriating all of the time to get knocked down all of the time by a bunch of fuckwits on DOA.

I hate DOA

the second statement they released IMO was just damage control. He needs to get a media manager to control what comes out of his mouth.




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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 12:29pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
what DON'T i want to hear? dnb inspired by dnb...techstep inspired by techstep...jumpup inspired by jumpup...edits inspired by edits...pendulum-clones, and so forth.



distress signal, blood sugar, granite- you cant tell me theses have outside musical influences on them, to me they sound like pap influenced by pap then remixed to make a pendulum clone....
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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 6:04pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Leaving the music aside, their post is embarrassing. They get booked for DnB shows so I don't see what their problem is. They think they're bigger than DnB now or something?

Pendulum are so big that Rob had to pinch a smoke from me NYE 2004-05.
OperonPosts: 151
Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 7:37pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
He has a point. lets face it if your a die hard dnb fan your prob not going to like it. It doesn't mean they have sold out or are shit, it just means they are making a new style of music that may be dnb influenced but does not resonate with the jungle massiv. The prodigy did the same with hardcore but most people on this forum love the old prodigy stuff; wanna know why that is? because most of us in Aus were not jaded by the 'true hardcore', like we are now with the true dnb sounds.

Pendulum are top notch 'dance' producers who are pushing the envelope and fair play to 'em. I for one can't stand them, but im not going to try and compare them to the generic dnb styles as thats ignorant.

PZ

Ops


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Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 8:53pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Ugh. Swap "Pendulum" for "M-Beat" and it's I swear this is 1995 all over again.

I don't love Granite either, but I'm not about to start crying. Pendulum can make what they want to make, no one owns this music.

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Posted: 2 Dec 2007, 1:40pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
It doesn't mean they have sold out or are shit, it just means they are making a new style of music that may be dnb influenced but does not resonate with the jungle massiv.
Ops

 Exactly. So why cry or even gaf when the old people don't like what you are making?

 
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Posted: 2 Dec 2007, 8:00pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 laugh

best thread in a long time

pendulum have sucked big fat slimey sloppy shites for a looooongtime now, and theyve only just realised that their original followers think this way about them? hahaha, sif their 'fans' nows actually had heard of them when vault came out.

d&b is dead, time for dubstep teef teef teef teef laugh laugh laugh


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Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 10:45amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead


(from pendulum.com)
"an electronic Led Zeppelin, a crunked up Soundgarden, Tool meets Timbaland, combined with the synthetic aggression and sonic purity of the original Pendulum sound."


yep, the best marketing money can buy
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Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 10:51amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
their head needs to be popped with a little pin
Erika
Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 10:51amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
their head needs to be popped with a little pin
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Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 2:27pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Well I lost interest in Pendulum about 3 years ago but that was just my personal taste.
I think they have been blown up way out of proportion as to what they have done and how they have infulenced DnB, and music as a whole.  People get way too obsessed about them.

This whole thing is a joke. If they want to make a differnt sound then cool. They could start making pop music for all I care doesnt mean I will listen to it.  Wha they should have do is listened and not got caught up in internet banter. Its not real its just the internet.

I think that they have a point in saying that the DnB scene on the whole is a very closed loop. There are too many people who are so obessed about being DnB that they miss out on a whole lot of other stuff that they might really enjoy.

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Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 3:00pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I support Pendulum for being Aussie music that although doesn't resonate with me these days, is far better than a lot of our other sucessful musical exports.

It's a shame that Rob had to post such a thing and I hope he isn't representing the entire outfits attitudes in regards to dnb and its community. The community was instrumental in getting them into the position to be sucessful and take their music further, but I can see why you might get frustrated when something you've worked on gets rejected by old fans.

Regardless of what has happened, it can be seen that dnb is well and truly over for Pendulum.
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Posted: 3 Dec 2007, 7:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
meh, good luck to them in their endeavours, theyre certainly going to need it.
i could list a fuckload of acts who thought theyd 'outgrown' the fan base that got them big only to flop and be never heard of again.

i mean, 'granite' and led zepplin? jesus h... emot-shakehead eyebrow


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Posted: 5 Dec 2007, 8:16pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I don't understand why everyone's on the 'I hate Pendulum Campaign'? They have made some amazing music which has appealed to people not only in the drum and bass community but people from all other musical intrest groups from pop to metal.
They have created a massive amount of exposure to the scene only to see it fall flat on its face when left to stand on its on two feet.
I guess what I really don't understand is what everyones got against them? why do people feel the need to bag out an artist for making tunes that they don't like purely on that basis?

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Posted: 5 Dec 2007, 8:23pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

They have created a massive amount of exposure to the scene only to see it fall flat on its face when left to stand on its on two feet.


  rofl

 You are joking right?
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LexyGlobal Moderator
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Posted: 5 Dec 2007, 8:25pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I think it's the fact that they make crappy music, but it's also the crappy attitude that goes along with it.

You might call it "amazing music"... I call it "crappy music".

P.S I wasn't aware the scene fell "flat on it's face"...? Why is the drum & bass scene nothing without Pendulum? Drum & bass was around long before Pendulum were on the scene, I'm not too sure why you think it's collapsing as soon as they take their music in a different direction. Sheesh, Pendulum is not the be all and end all of drum & bass OR the drum & bass scene.

P.P.S Are you one of the Pendulum boys?

P.P.P.S Why don't you actually scroll down and read people's responses. Most of them are clear as day as to why they don't like Pendulum and/or their music.
NoddyPosts: 7,430
Posted: 5 Dec 2007, 11:37pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
In the beginning, there was Pendulum, and Pendulum had a groove.
And from this groove came the groove of all grooves.
And while one day viciously throwing down on their box, Pendulum boldy declared,

"Let there be drum&bass!" and drum&bass music was born.

I am, you see,
I am the creator, and this is my drum&bass!
And, in my DOA there is only drum&bass music. But, I am not so
selfish because once you enter DOA it then becomes OUR drum&bass and
OUR drum&bass music!" And, you see, no one can own drum&bass because
drum&bass music is a universal language, spoken and understood by all.

You see, drum&bass is a feeling that no one can understand really unless
you're deep into the vibe of drum&bass. Drum&bass is an uncontrollable
desire to wobble. And, as I told you before, this is
our drum&bass and our drum&bass music. And in every house, you
understand, there is a keeper. And, in this house, the keeper
is Pendulum. Now some of you who might wonder.

Who is Pendulum, and what is it that Pendulum does?

Pendulum is the one who gives you the power to wobble your body !
Pendulum is the one who gives you the power to do rave to guitar riffs.
Pendulum is the one who gives you the key to call for the rewind.
Pendulum is the one who learns you how to post on forums.
Pendulum is the one that can bring nations and nations of all
junglists together under one house.

You may be black, you may be white; you may be Jew or Gentile.
It don't make difference in our scene.

And this ISN'T fresh!
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Posted: 5 Dec 2007, 11:57pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 laugh
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Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 9:19amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
It reminds me of DJ Shadow making Hiffy music.

Yeah, you may like it Shadow, you might think the Hiffy scene is where it's at, but it fucking blows musically and emulates all the other crap commercial hiphop out there. If you love it so much then you don't need to justify it.



FFS they look like they should be called "heart lies bleeding" or some other faggoty emo band name
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Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 9:27amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

FFS they look like they should be called "heart lies bleeding" or some other faggoty emo band name

 rofl
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Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 9:39amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead


(from pendulum.com)
"an electronic Led Zeppelin, a crunked up Soundgarden, Tool meets Timbaland, combined with the synthetic aggression and sonic purity of the original Pendulum sound."


yep, the best marketing money can buy
 gimp

lol
laugh
that quote I lifted from the pendulum.com 'about us' page has been removed and replaced.

deathmazePosts: 3,079
Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 9:47amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
P.S I wasn't aware the scene fell "flat on it's face"...? Why is the drum & bass scene nothing without Pendulum? Drum & bass was around long before Pendulum were on the scene, I'm not too sure why you think it's collapsing as soon as they take their music in a different direction.

The direction they took it in has/will fall flat on it's face because it's shallow and unoriginal, but that has nothing to do with DnB!
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ErkPosts: 4,199
Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 12:56pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

I don't understand why everyone's on the 'I hate Pendulum Campaign'?

Because we are Pendulum Playa haters!    teef laugh laugh


I am seriously contemplating taking placards and going on strike at enchanted

bahaha can you imagine that? Everyone in the audience with placards chanting "we are playa haters! we are playa haters!" "Down with Granite! Down with Granite!"
 laugh

hmmm Better not
Erika
Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 12:56pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

I don't understand why everyone's on the 'I hate Pendulum Campaign'?

Because we are Pendulum Playa haters!    :E :lol: :lol:


I am seriously contemplating taking placards and going on strike at enchanted

bahaha can you imagine that? Everyone in the audience with placards chanting "we are playa haters! we are playa haters!" "Down with Granite! Down with Granite!"
 :lol:

hmmm Better not
writaPosts: 494
Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 3:23pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
sounds exactly like all the rest of the shit they have released.  ravesmiliefn5 gimp always have hated them. shit. who even is pendulum and how many ppl are in this foresaken group?
please tell me, how does one suck a fuck.

ah luk it a lot.

i'd buy that for a dollar.
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Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 4:50pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I wasn't aware the scene fell "flat on it's face"...? Why is the drum & bass scene nothing without Pendulum? Drum & bass was around long before Pendulum were on the scene, I'm not too sure why you think it's collapsing as soon as they take their music in a different direction. Sheesh, Pendulum is not the be all and end all of drum & bass

I couldn't agree with you more, Pendulum definitely aren't the be all and end all of drum and bass, but they're not claiming to be! they just want a chance to put out their music regardless of who likes it. Surely they deserve a chance to do that without constant ridicule? 

I went over the top with the"flat on its face" line. the scene hasn't collapsed, I guess if anything it may have grown stronger I'm not sure.
LexyGlobal Moderator
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Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 5:30pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I couldn't agree with you more, Pendulum definitely aren't the be all and end all of drum and bass, but they're not claiming to be! they just want a chance to put out their music regardless of who likes it. Surely they deserve a chance to do that without constant ridicule? 

Everything in the public arena is open to, and can be, subject to constant or occasional ridicule/criticism.

Pendulum just need to harden the fuck up and deal with it!
synxPosts: 65
Posted: 6 Dec 2007, 5:42pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I couldn't agree with you more, Pendulum definitely aren't the be all and end all of drum and bass, but they're not claiming to be! they just want a chance to put out their music regardless of who likes it. Surely they deserve a chance to do that without constant ridicule? 

I went over the top with the"flat on its face" line. the scene hasn't collapsed, I guess if anything it may have grown stronger I'm not sure.


 laugh you are rob !!!
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Posted: 7 Dec 2007, 4:24pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Everything in the public arena is open to, and can be, subject to constant or occasional ridicule/criticism.

Pendulum just need to harden the fuck up and deal with it!

I guess your right its just depressing to see them coping soo much flak! Tracks like vault and spiral are what got me interested in D&B.
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 10:54amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I guess your right its just depressing to see them coping soo much flak! Tracks like vault and spiral are what got me interested in D&B.

We are so quick to comment about them cos they set their own bar so high with tracks like vault & spiral.
We just want them to bring something mind blowing again not just the same old sounds.

I think everyone (dnb heads) is feeling a little let down by their recent music direction considering they got a lot of us into the music which opened our ears to so many other artists.
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 11:12amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Quote from: Noddy on December 06, 2007, 11:38:14 AM
I'm still trying to work out what Jayar is doing in the background.


bwahahaha   gold
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 12:21pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
They have created a massive amount of exposure to the scene only to see it fall flat on its face when left to stand on its on two feet.


You can read this 2 ways

The over exposure Pendulum brought to the scene has slowed and I don't think that is a bad thing.
The jungle soldiers are still left standing and really when I go out thats all I want to see you can have the over packed Roni Size shows any day that was fucking bullshit.
The promoters may think differently cos the $$$ are important to keep them putting shows on.

The scene is still strong
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 12:47pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 worst  And you're all getting caught up in it!! Funny reading, but this whole thread seems slightly contradictory. Like Grif said, let em make what they wanna make. If you don't like it, don't like it. Comments like "comparing themselves to Led Zep, Miles Davis, etc is ghey" simply pushes the snowball a little bit further. If you want it to die, let it be and stop bringing it up.

 lexy
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 4:53pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
worst  And you're all getting caught up in it!! Funny reading, but this whole thread seems slightly contradictory. Like Grif said, let em make what they wanna make. If you don't like it, don't like it. Comments like "comparing themselves to Led Zep, Miles Davis, etc is ghey" simply pushes the snowball a little bit further. If you want it to die, let it be and stop bringing it up.

 lexy


 laugh laugh laugh
U just contributed to bringing it to life rya too thou  laugh

I think it is fair enuff for peope who have a passion in DnB to contribute their thoughts against something they feel isnt right

Its like is someone drilled someone/something you loved or like, wouldnt you defend it?
Erika
Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 4:53pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
:worst:  And you're all getting caught up in it!! Funny reading, but this whole thread seems slightly contradictory. Like Grif said, let em make what they wanna make. If you don't like it, don't like it. Comments like "comparing themselves to Led Zep, Miles Davis, etc is ghey" simply pushes the snowball a little bit further. If you want it to die, let it be and stop bringing it up.

 :lexy:


 :lol: :lol: :lol:
U just contributed to bringing it to life rya too thou  :lol:

I think it is fair enuff for peope who have a passion in DnB to contribute their thoughts against something they feel isnt right

Its like is someone drilled someone/something you loved or like, wouldnt you defend it?
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Posted: 8 Dec 2007, 6:36pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
worst  And you're all getting caught up in it!! Funny reading, but this whole thread seems slightly contradictory. Like Grif said, let em make what they wanna make. If you don't like it, don't like it. Comments like "comparing themselves to Led Zep, Miles Davis, etc is ghey" simply pushes the snowball a little bit further. If you want it to die, let it be and stop bringing it up.

 lexy

I quite enyoyed my snide posts in this thread

I certainly don't regret them or see any regrettable harm done

Forums are appropriate places to present and discuss opinions
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 4:41amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
The post wasn't so much intended as a 'shut up', but simply a view on the entire situation and it's mainly in forums that we have so much public freedom. I find the whole thing funny because it's not a situation where everyone will agree at any time - people call them sell-outs and then the Pendulum family's little sister has a winge, then it makes it more amusing. But I'd bet that Simo and Curt have sold a decent amount of Granite copies! Who gets the last laugh? A forum is an ideal medium, and this thread is pretty amusing, but the story is like an old one that you've heard too many times before.
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 10:19amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeh u have a point there.

the last laugh ends with whos got a full wallet
Erika
Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 10:19amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeh u have a point there.

the last laugh ends with whos got a full wallet
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 3:59pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Look, it's quite simple. ANYONE who chooses to look like this:


Or this:
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Or this:


Or even this:


Should be banned from making music...


And this is pendulum:

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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 6:04pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Pendulum would have to be one of the most fickle identities to ever grace D&B. They have always been average at the best of times. A question that was asked was have they sold out? They were never that good in the first place. Sets last night were crap piss poor effort tipical Pendulum predictive production line cheeze. Who they fuck do they think they are to comment on the industry and declare it dead. It was fine to use it to make a dollar and move on fucking swines. Good ridence you paracites fuck off you bunch of actors!!! Big ups to Filter/fiction best set hands down!!!
 
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 7:04pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
aww i like papa roach Tongue
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 7:48pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Look, it's quite simple. ANYONE who chooses to look like this:

Or even this:


Should be banned from making music...



i would like this comment stricken from the record.
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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 8:08pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
or this:

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Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 8:16pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 laugh
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 12:54pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
oh gawd. muppets
i'd say fuck it, but i cant be stuffed
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 1:06pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 2:03pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Come on man.

U2 are the very definition of what I'm talking about. As soon as they started dressing like that, they started making shit music.

haha fair enough, i see what ya mean. but overall they have always been pretty different in the dress department - especially bono. and surely the glasses didnt coincide with the shit music lol
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 2:05pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
dnb certainly isn't dead. though el hornet tried his hardest to murder it at enchanted. that's for sure.

fuck he was shit.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 3:05pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah was a pretty woeful effort.

give it a 3 outta 10.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 3:08pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
That's 3 more points then I give your use of capitals you dumb fuck!
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 3:31pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah was a pretty woeful effort.

give it a 3 outta 10.

WHATEVER CHRIS! You, my friend, were dancing like a mad man!  laugh PFF WHATEVER!

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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 4:20pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
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Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 9:27amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
WHATEVER CHRIS! You, my friend, were dancing like a mad man!  laugh PFF WHATEVER!

 laugh @ Noddy  laugh



???

the only time i danced all day/night was when lee and jules were mixing. even that was laboured because of what has been going on lately. left jules and sat in the car towards the end as well because i just wasn't up for it.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 9:34amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lee was pretty wicked i reckon.

possibly not what the crowd was after, but i certainly needed it. just nice, deep, rolling tunes.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 1:03pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
quick JJJ now!
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Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 1:13pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
hehe
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Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 3:25pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
haha really? how bad?
wasnt the best set but he played a few phat tunes and some of the mixes were pretty dope. pity he only played one set.
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 7:35amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
there are things DJs need to do and thats get the crowd involved not look like a limp banana thats had too much gear.

Bit of an oxymoron dont you think?...too much gear, you would be flying around those decks..
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Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 8:20amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'll say this though Lee and El Hornet were both excitement machines behind the decks.................NOT
Looked like neither gave a fuck, there are things DJs need to do and thats get the crowd involved not look like a limp banana thats had too much gear.
They should have dropped a track and sat back down to have a sip of their coffee least then we would have wondered what they were doing behind the decks.
Thank Fuck when Patch come out and made us all want to dance again

Although El Hornet had a big crowd he didn't llok like he was enjoying it at all.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 8:35amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
there are things DJs need to do and thats get the crowd involved not look like a limp banana thats had too much gear.

Bit of an oxymoron dont you think?...too much gear, you would be flying around those decks..
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 11:12amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Although El Hornet had a big crowd he didn't llok like he was enjoying it at all.

The most energetic I've seen him was at Tonic, but I do remember his 1st or 2nd time at Traffic he was just leaning against the wall in between mixes  :lol:

He is a sick DJ and going back a few years he used to play decently fresh shit.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 11:47amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I could swear Enchanted has its own thread!
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Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 12:12pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Although El Hornet had a big crowd he didn't llok like he was enjoying it at all.

The most energetic I've seen him was at Tonic, but I do remember his 1st or 2nd time at Traffic he was just leaning against the wall in between mixes  laugh

He is a sick DJ and going back a few years he used to play decently fresh shit.
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 5:57pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Bit of an oxymoron dont you think?...too much gear, you would be flying around those decks..

What ever lol

He just looked like he didn't want to be there but yet he wouldn't get off the decks for Patch
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Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 1:21pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I hear that Pendulum are keepin it real and puttin out a christmas album
i'd say fuck it, but i cant be stuffed
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Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 2:55pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
"trainwreck the halls playing subfocus and tc, fa la la la la, la la la la"
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Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 6:55pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
You guys are the best lyricists ever, maybe you should join Pendu?

Can't wait for the emo photo shoot!
Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 6:07pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
http://www.beatportal.com/blogs/post/pendulum-strike-back/

Pendulum have always been an act to drive debate and controversy within the drum & bass community.

Since ‘Hold Your Colour’ and their collaboration with Freestylers, many have seen this Australian dance act as being either too commercial or regarded as saviours of the scene.

This week, Pendulum release their new single ‘Granite’, a track from their forthcoming album that looks to drive the band more towards a live sound.

The track takes the act from their previous album, ‘Hold Your Colour’, and builds on their live elements.

Heavily present within this track are heavy guitars, full vocals and big drums; a hybrid between metal and drum & bass, which will appeal to some and not to others.

Many within the drum & bass community decided to label the act as a sell out.

This criticism was based on the act’s ability to sell records, hold sold out tours and leave behind their former indie label in order to move on to a bigger one.

Should this be considered selling out, or just the result of an act that produces great music that sells well?

After a lot of criticism on drum & bass forum, Dogs on Acid, Pendulum decided to respond with this comment:

“Okay, I’ve had just about enough of this.

“I don’t mind when people aren’t particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make I go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so I can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.

“The only comments I don’t get are the ones saying we’ve ‘sold out’.

“I define ‘selling out’ as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don’t really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

“The only way I think I could have really ‘sold myself out’ is if I had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc.

“Those tunes are cool for what they are, but I’ve moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group…

“If you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame Led Zeppelin, The Shadows, The Surf Coasters, Dead Kennedys, Dick Dale, Howlin’ Wolf, Weather Report, Tool, In Flames, Herb Alpert, Underoath and all the other stuff I’ve been listening to instead of drum and bass.

“We have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if I tried to explain it all.

“All I’ll say is, I wanted to make every single thing we’ve ever put out.

“Saying we ‘sold out’ is talking out your ass.

“I never wanted to make straight up dnb — it was never on the cards.

“Oh, and by the way - I’m not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (I’ve been in the studio / on tour too long to tell).

“However, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then I’m glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance.

“Wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again.’


The whole response can be seen by visiting the Dogs on Acid forum website: http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=40052ea33245a080435f0616602c37aa&threadid=536978&perpage=20&pagenumber=8

In the meantime, check ‘Granite’ out now and judge for yourself.

But whatever you do, just don’t tell Pendulum what you think!

And hold your breath for the Dillinja remix coming soon.....

Robs  a champ good on em, fyi the dillanja rmx has to be one of the worst dnb tunes i've heard in 25 yrs
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:07pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
http://www.beatportal.com/blogs/post/pendulum-strike-back/

Pendulum have always been an act to drive debate and controversy within the drum & bass community.

Since ‘Hold Your Colour’ and their collaboration with Freestylers, many have seen this Australian dance act as being either too commercial or regarded as saviours of the scene.

This week, Pendulum release their new single ‘Granite’, a track from their forthcoming album that looks to drive the band more towards a live sound.

The track takes the act from their previous album, ‘Hold Your Colour’, and builds on their live elements.

Heavily present within this track are heavy guitars, full vocals and big drums; a hybrid between metal and drum & bass, which will appeal to some and not to others.

Many within the drum & bass community decided to label the act as a sell out.

This criticism was based on the act’s ability to sell records, hold sold out tours and leave behind their former indie label in order to move on to a bigger one.

Should this be considered selling out, or just the result of an act that produces great music that sells well?

After a lot of criticism on drum & bass forum, Dogs on Acid, Pendulum decided to respond with this comment:

“Okay, I’ve had just about enough of this.

“I don’t mind when people aren’t particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make I go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so I can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.

“The only comments I don’t get are the ones saying we’ve ‘sold out’.

“I define ‘selling out’ as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don’t really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

“The only way I think I could have really ‘sold myself out’ is if I had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc.

“Those tunes are cool for what they are, but I’ve moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group…

“If you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame Led Zeppelin, The Shadows, The Surf Coasters, Dead Kennedys, Dick Dale, Howlin’ Wolf, Weather Report, Tool, In Flames, Herb Alpert, Underoath and all the other stuff I’ve been listening to instead of drum and bass.

“We have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if I tried to explain it all.

“All I’ll say is, I wanted to make every single thing we’ve ever put out.

“Saying we ‘sold out’ is talking out your ass.

“I never wanted to make straight up dnb — it was never on the cards.

“Oh, and by the way - I’m not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (I’ve been in the studio / on tour too long to tell).

“However, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then I’m glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance.

“Wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again.’


The whole response can be seen by visiting the Dogs on Acid forum website: http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=40052ea33245a080435f0616602c37aa&threadid=536978&perpage=20&pagenumber=8

In the meantime, check ‘Granite’ out now and judge for yourself.

But whatever you do, just don’t tell Pendulum what you think!

And hold your breath for the Dillinja remix coming soon.....

Robs  a champ good on em, fyi the dillanja rmx has to be one of the worst dnb tunes i've heard in 25 yrs
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 11:54amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Quote
“Wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again.’

Got to admit besides maybe bukem and Roni they are the only other group to do this with any real success, actually they would have to be the most succesful at doing this would they not?
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 11:57amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
mos def

shyfx had a couple of big trax
as did some others
but nothing on that scale

i recon high contrast is movin to fill pendulums shoes
regardless of what it is
i fuckn love his new album
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Got to admit besides maybe bukem and Roni they are the only other group to do this with any real success, actually they would have to be the most succesful at doing this would they not?

 Since when did good dnb have anything to do with having people that don't like dnb listening to it though.

 Who gives a fuck what they think?
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:27pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
The problem is that dnb is almost always about making people dance. So people don't usually write dnb for the radio or the lounge room. It's written by producers and DJ's so they can have tunes other people don't or to sell records to other DJ's.

I do think however that to keep the scene new and fresh you need new people, and one of the most important ways to bring in new people is with sounds that appeal to people not already into dnb. In this sense Pendulum have done an awful lot for the genre. I will be surprised if Rob doesn't make more cutting edge music. One thing is for sure, he will certainly be making music that people somewhere are enjoying.
Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:34pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

but where i think he was goin is those two guys are the only other dnb acts to reach a wider audience than the scene itself
givin it the ability to get a bigger fanbase


 Pendulum now create Pendulum fans, not dnb fans. IMO anyway.

 Thats great for them but I think it's time for the dnb scene to let go of them and stop expecting them to be some sort of saviour.

 And I still love the girly shit.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:06pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Got to admit besides maybe bukem and Roni they are the only other group to do this with any real success, actually they would have to be the most succesful at doing this would they not?

 Since when did good dnb have anything to do with having people that don't like dnb listening to it though.

 Who gives a fuck what they think?
Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:09pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I cant belive i'm the one standing up for them  :E I guess it could be due to the fact i haven't had much to do with the dnb scene recently and haven't seen as much of them as most of you lately. I'm giving my view as more of an outsider looking in these days i guess.

flame on.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:32pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
mpk probably

not u by the sound of it

y does it matter who cares?

but where i think he was goin is those two guys are the only other dnb acts to reach a wider audience than the scene itself
givin it the ability to get a bigger fanbase

otherwise dnb will fritter away

so we need the pendulums the tcs the high contrasts  to get people who are not exposed to dnb into it ( slowly. ) i think we all just forget how much we loved the girliest shit not long ago Smiley
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

but where i think he was goin is those two guys are the only other dnb acts to reach a wider audience than the scene itself
givin it the ability to get a bigger fanbase


 Pendulum now create Pendulum fans, not dnb fans. IMO anyway.

 Thats great for them but I think it's time for the dnb scene to let go of them and stop expecting them to be some sort of saviour.

 And I still love the girly shit.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 2:03pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Personnaly i dont agree with rob having a full lash at dnb in general but, i also think its pretty disgusting for people to hate on them as much as they are here and on other forums. I can completely see where his anger comes from after what they have achieved and the slander they now have to endure especially from people who are ment to be supporting them the most.... the drum and bass community and especially the australian dnb community. However many years ago they first came to Adelaide and were getting recognised for their music all you now be haters couldn't get in line fast enough to shake their hands and congratulate them for what they had done for aust. DNB. They changed the sound of DNB forever, if you like their music or not, respect where respect is due imo. Admittedly i haven't read through everyones posts and am willing to take it on the chin if far from the mark.

Hate, hate, hate.... its sad state of affairs.

Pendulum now create Pendulum fans, not dnb fans. IMO anyway.

 Thats great for them but I think it's time for the dnb scene to let go of them and stop expecting them to be some sort of saviour.

 And I still love the girly shit.

Find someone else who can do what they do to a level and maybe dnb will have a future.... thats exactely what rob is saying

Since when did good dnb have anything to do with having people that don't like dnb listening to it though.

 Who gives a fuck what they think?

Do you like seeing the exact same crowd week in week out? Its what kills scenes and genres of music

Flame away.... haters.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 2:09pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I cant belive i'm the one standing up for them  teef I guess it could be due to the fact i haven't had much to do with the dnb scene recently and haven't seen as much of them as most of you lately. I'm giving my view as more of an outsider looking in these days i guess.

flame on.
Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 2:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
im a pendulum fan who turned into a dnb
do the math :)
Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 2:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 :lol:
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 3:24pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
im a pendulum fan who turned into a dnb
do the math Smiley
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LexyGlobal Moderator
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 3:54pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 laugh
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 4:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

 The prosecution rests.  :E
StrykeGlobal Moderator
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 5:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

 The prosecution rests.  teef
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 1:48amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Since when did good dnb have anything to do with having people that don't like dnb listening to it though.

 Who gives a fuck what they think?

Are you serious? how fucking limited do you want your audience to be? what about fresh faces? what about people who don't quite know what they like? give em a chance.

I know plenty of cats who wouldn't even know what drum and bass was if it weren't for Pendulum and some of them actully come to shows every once in a while.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 35
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 2:48amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Since when did good dnb have anything to do with having people that don't like dnb listening to it though.

 Who gives a fuck what they think?

Are you serious? how fucking limited do you want your audience to be? what about fresh faces? what about people who don't quite know what they like? give em a chance.

I know plenty of cats who wouldn't even know what drum and bass was if it weren't for Pendulum and some of them actully come to shows every once in a while.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:34amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
but the voodoo people rmx is a good track

:lol:

That track is one of the shittest tracks ever made. They massacred Voodoo People.

I've been around for a while... it's not "tall poppy syndrome" or jealously or because they're not "underground"... it's because they're SHIT. Plain and simple.

I've not liked Pendulum since day one, I've always thought they were fucking crap. It's got absolutely nothing to do with their success at all.
P.A.S.Posts: 8
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:40amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
maybe they (pend) attract new people, but lets face it. have you seen a pendulum crowd?

freshest load of fucking idiots off the bus you could ever imagine. now, call me elitist, snob, or whatever but the simple fact is, i don't want stupid people around me at the best of times, let alone while i'm gettin my bill cosby jive on and enjoy some sounds.

That's why there are other styles of music (see: Bon Jovi) for them to have idiot conventions over, and not bother me.

No need to expand the genre... evolve the sound for sure, but if evolving means dumbing down just for the sake of making the scene bigger, fuck that for a joke.
Let them find it. Jungle was it's own free living thing and that's why it was so good, bring in the general lowest common denominator element and out the fucking window it all goes. To compound the problem, the majority of them think pendulum is IT - that is d&b - and don't delve further at all, quite happily plonking around in clown boots forever to whatever shit is served up to them, none the wiser.

One of the best elements of adelaide's scene when it was thriving (10-15 yrs ago) was the word of mouth exposure & the underground foundations of it all.. you heard about it when you were ready for it, there was no net exposure or radio play. If you knew about The Core, you could read it, or if you knew the right shops you picked up a flyer - or you may have had an older bro' or sis into it. this delves a bit into my personal beliefs, but i digress. I'd much rather a small ~100 crowd with a great vibe than a stadium rave with 10,000 sketchy dickheads. quality over quantity.

end of the day, i don't like the music they make, simple. they don't earn my respect, as i feel they haven't produced anything outstanding or worthy of the praise they get. girl in the fire is about the only track i can listen to that doesn't make me want to mute instantly.

I hope they do think it is dead, so they'll piss off & go 'expand' another genre.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:42amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
not a tall poppy my arse :)

everyones so fuckn serious on here about themselves and "the scene" or what ever the fuck.
so u dance when u go to shows?
or is that to mainstream?
cos its all fuckn cheese i cant be seen groovin too?

get over yaselves

fuck i cant help but stomp if its a fat track doesnt matter the time a day, the company im in and my blood alc level
ill get just as into it as ever, cos i fuckn love the music. no doubt i prolly look like a dick to people who arnt but that means about as much to me the fart i just dropped
lol
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:47amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
not a tall poppy my arse :)

everyones so fuckn serious on here about themselves and "the scene" or what ever the fuck.
so u dance when u go to shows?
or is that to mainstream?
cos its all fuckn cheese i cant be seen groovin too?

get over yaselves

fuck i cant help but stomp if its a fat track doesnt matter the time a day, the company im in and my blood alc level
ill get just as into it as ever, cos i fuckn love the music. no doubt i prolly look like a dick to people who arnt but that means about as much to me the fart i just dropped
lol


:lol:

Do you fucking know me?

UHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No.

Do you even KNOW what Tall Poppy Syndrome is?

I think it's supremely funny that the fact I don't like Pendulum makes me a hater/jaded/jealous/whatever with tall poppy syndrome.

Get a fucking clue.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
not you personally lexy

it just and observation i have made on a a few times whilst out, everyscene has em
lol
shit i used to stand there at rise and not dance cos i was cool too once
so much more fun not caring


tall poppy sysndrome - being 25cm when all your other poppy friends at only 20cm
that right isnt it?
or it is a new album  ?
yeah i dunno what it is actually
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:14amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lexy's on the money. it's not about fame, money or whatever (well it is to them) - they make dumbed down pus for the masses & fans of their music don't like hearing this, and their 'done well' is sheep mentality of the highest order. They sell heaps so they must be good. Sold out shows..must be good. Everyones jumping off a bridge so it must be good, let's go.

100 or 20 ppl, hell.. if the vibe is right, it's right?! if the experience & musical journey is there, who cares how many people are there? so temper D spat the dummy because he had a small crowd... that's more his ego's problem.

Hey i'll rock an empty room if the dj takes me on a journey for sure. Have done so when HMC went on a slightly too eclectic electro tip for the crowd one night a few years back, some kraftwerk/rother biz that i was lapping up. It was great.. & then he worked the floor full again like a great dj does, feeling for the crowds reaction and steering back toward what they wanted, yet not resorting to playing shit that rips 500 asses onto the floor instantly like dribbling lunatics out for a quick fix. you get the idea.

SkiNNyPosts: 117
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:25amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i prefer something in the middle - 100 peeps is pathetic, no one dances & the DJ's don't get into it, 1000 people - in a good sized club = gold, guarenteed a good atmosphere, but this size crowd is rare in adelaide, except maybe that pendulum gig @ HQ few years back. Take Temper D for instance, masterful DJ, had some killer tunes with him, plays to massive crowds in the UK, rocks out, yet your magical 100 people made him leave an hour early and he was pissed off the crowd was so small. small crowds are aids in any situation. 200peep minimum.

And on pendulum. I like their tunes, admittedly mostly their older shit - but the voodoo people rmx is a good track, Still grey is a work of art imo. And don't hate on subfocus, the man's a legend.

and i can't be categorised as a pendulum fan or cheese lover, how many of you here were @ Paul Blackout? and would love Current Value or Panacea to tour?*thrusts hand up*  teef

so my view isn't biased, i just like the tunes - they make me move and thats all that counts, i don't get this pendulum hating. Tall poppy syndrome @ its finest imo, they've done well, the jaded dnb fans hate on them cos they're not "underground" enough or they're jealous - i lol @ some of these comments
LexyGlobal Moderator
Posts: 2,703
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:34amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
but the voodoo people rmx is a good track

laugh

That track is one of the shittest tracks ever made. They massacred Voodoo People.

I've been around for a while... it's not "tall poppy syndrome" or jealously or because they're not "underground"... it's because they're SHIT. Plain and simple.

I've not liked Pendulum since day one, I've always thought they were fucking crap. It's got absolutely nothing to do with their success at all.
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:36amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
maybe they (pend) attract new people, but lets face it. have you seen a pendulum crowd?

freshest load of fucking idiots off the bus you could ever imagine. now, call me elitist, snob, or whatever but the simple fact is, i don't want stupid people around me at the best of times, let alone while i'm gettin my bill cosby jive on and enjoy some sounds.




not to worry cos the room u dance in will be empty before long with this sort of ignorance around and you can get ur bill cosby on and not worry about bumpin in to anything
Keyser -The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he closely resembles some dude that wears purple shirts and puts out a gay persona.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:39amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
You people are such ELITISTS!

You cannot deny it, because you are.

So what if they're popular, for this to happen they obviously play what the crowd wants to hear. What you're saying is the people who listen to Pendulum are idiots because its not good music.

What a load a shit.

Do you go round calling people idiots because they like a certain type of beer or wine or food over another, its all a matter of taste.

You can stick around playing to a room of 100 people because theyre the only ones willing to come out to those types of shows, but eventually the promoters are going to give up on it.

If the vibe is right with 20 people then it aint gonna be played in a club so get used to sitting around in your lounge room listening to it and let the Pendulums of the world play to mass crowds in clubs and make all the cash. Yeah they're all idiots, but idiots with local support!

People dont like it because its cool, or because their friend listens to it or because its played on the radio, they listen to it because its what they like.

The fact that its played on the radio all it really does is expose them to the music and they ultimately make the decision of whether or not its the type of music they like and want to support.

You cannot say because a track rips 500 people instantly on to the floor "like dribbling lunatics" its crap. All you can say is that YOU dont like it.

So dont go to the shows. EASY.

Its obvious however that other types of DnB out there(not all) do not pull crowds, do not get dancefloors, do not get public interest. It can be seen quite obviously by the massive amount of failed, or break even shows these days.

As I said promoters arent going to bring in acts that dont pull crowds.

If you like a particular type of DnB or artist, then its up to YOU to push it to people you know, get people to listen to it, get it out and played to the public, so that if they like it they can support it and the DnB genre wont die.

If you keep on with this elitist attitude, and I say elitist because that is exactly what it is, you will not hear the music you like played for much longer.

As for Pendulum declaring the DnB genre dead, that is a load of shit, maybe they're sick of it, maybe they want to produce something else. It's possibly on its way out, and not at the high it was once upon a time, but definitely not dead.

And for my taste, I like quite a bit of Pendulums older gear, they are probably one of the groups that got me into DnB when I started listening to it, but thanks to my friends I also enjoy the likes of Calyx, Teebee, Noisia etc etc

The only reason I know of these guys is because people have said to me, this is a cranking mix check it out.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:44amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Posted by: John L

THAT GETS THE BIGGEST BIGGGIDY FUCKN BIG UP? anyones gotten from me in a long time.

mad respect
 :boh:


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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Oh no, I better start liking Pendulum so I can be cool like you guys.

 :roll:
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lol that was the trademark
1 sentance immature comeback for total ownage.

when theres nothing to else to say cos ya got fuckn schooled


almost got a semi
lol

Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Oh no, I better start liking Pendulum so I can be cool like you guys.

 :roll:

Case in point.

Did you even read my post? Or just see that I mentioned liking Pendulum and instantly right it off because its not what TRUE DnB fans like?

 :banghead:
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:59amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
its hard to read stuff from way back there in the dnb purist section :)
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:11amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
end of the day, i don't like the music they make, simple. they don't earn my respect, as i feel they haven't produced anything outstanding or worthy of the praise they get. girl in the fire is about the only track i can listen to that doesn't make me want to mute instantly.

fair enough you say you dont link their music........
but how can you honestly say the only track you'll listen to of theirs without muting is girl in the fire?
wat about spiral, vault, still grey and back 2 you? fair enough the first two of those track may have been thrashed to buggery, but it doesnt mean they arent good tunes.

To compound the problem, the majority of them think pendulum is IT - that is d&b - and don't delve further at all, quite happily plonking around in clown boots forever to whatever shit is served up to them, none the wiser.

all i know is hearing pendulum (spiral and vault) on rollers a few years back made me want to find out more about dnb, and now its pretty much the only genre of music that i listen to....the only difference now is that im listening to other dnb besides pendulum.
you could almost say that without pendulum, i probably wouldnt be listening to dnb
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:15amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
me to orchie

they were my gateway drug of dnb
spiral down at traffic


and it been dnb everyday since.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:21amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
end of the day, i don't like the music they make, simple. they don't earn my respect, as i feel they haven't produced anything outstanding or worthy of the praise they get. girl in the fire is about the only track i can listen to that doesn't make me want to mute instantly.

Are you for real? Forget hold you colour thats what brought alot of this about a year or so after its release. But what about their earlier stuff Another Planet, Still Grey, Back to you, Vault, Spiral to name but a few. They were big tracks and are still respected DnB tunes that will stand the test of time.
(I see something like this has been now posted while I was writing)

Pendulum have turned a lot of people to the scene, fair enough you look at more recent shows they have pulled a lot of Pretty boy house crew that some you just want to punch in the face, but out of that crew there are still young faces not sure what they like yet. I know some of these young crew who now are real DnB heads and are top crew.
While they might have in previous Adelaide show brought 500 new faces to the scene through a show, 50 of those crew are probably still into DnB and have widened their horizons with different artists now.

I will agree that a small crowd in the right venue (small venue or room) is nuts take DJ Zinc at Ultraworld (St Pauls) the first time when he played down stairs that was amazing he and mc verse killed it propa that is one of the best shows I've seen and what maybe like 100 crew in there watching and Zinc was loving it.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:34amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
finally we come out of the woodwork
:)

ya cant deny pendulum have produced a gammet of tracks across a variety of sub genres. and each track for its time shifted fuckn tides in dnb
open up to them and u might enjoy the tracks for what they are/were
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:41amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lol that was the trademark
1 sentance immature comeback for total ownage.

when theres nothing to else to say cos ya got fuckn schooled


almost got a semi
lol



AAAAAAHAHAHA

Not even, n00b.

Case in point.

Did you even read my post? Or just see that I mentioned liking Pendulum and instantly right it off because its not what TRUE DnB fans like?

 :banghead:

Yes, I read your entire post. Would you like me to comment on it paragraph by paragraph?

You're saying I'm an elitist because I don't like Pendulum. I don't agree. I personally couldn't give a FUCK if you like Pendulum or not. I DON'T. I NEVER HAVE. It's got nothing to do with me being elitist or hating on them because they're "successful" or whatever... it's the simple fact that I have never liked their music. I also dislike country music... am I an elitist for that too?

Like I have mentioned previously in this thread, Pendulum are not the be all and end all of drum and bass. It was around long before Pendulum and I'm sure it'll be around long after they've faded away. There are heaps of other awesome drum and bass producers out there that should be getting mega loads of attention, yet everyone hails Pendulum as the fucking pinnacle of drum and bass.

I'm not even entirely sure why Pendulum lovers get so fucking uptight when people DON'T like Pendulum. Like you have said, it's a personal choice/taste. Calling people elitists for disliking Pendulum but then taking offense when other people think you're an idiot for liking Pendulum is fucking stupid.

its hard to read stuff from way back there in the dnb purist section :)


You're so full of shit, I can smell you from here.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:41amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
its like taking maddona's latest rubbish,but she gets my respect cos she has single handed made pop what it is today. good bad or otherwise
she influences masses of people over 20 years always changin her styles having such a huge impact in that scene

im not sayin pendulum are dnbs madonna
but credit where credits due
like them or not

Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:57amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i dunno about the 50 from 500 figure, considering the size of the dancefloor for pendulum at ef at the show grounds (couple thousand surely) i'd say there would be maybe 50 from that who have actually got into the local scene. i've been going out for only 5 years and over the past 6 months have scaled back how many shows i got to. for all the success pendulum have had it's been disappointing to see how little the scene has grown here. there new tunes granite and whatever that other new one is called really are shit, the 2nd one especially, my god, by not making dnb (or electronic music for that matter) they have just made absolute shit FACT!

or maybe i'm jaded, go figure

oh and p.s. madonna didn't "single handedly make pop"
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
:lol:

That track is one of the shittest tracks ever made*edit*in my opinion says lexy*kthx*. They massacred Voodoo People.

I've been around for a while... it's not "tall poppy syndrome" or jealously or because they're not "underground"... it's because they're SHIT. Plain and simple.

I've not liked Pendulum since day one, I've always thought they were fucking crap. It's got absolutely nothing to do with their success at all.

well you lexy are an exception - if your opinion has never changed, and u hate them thats cool, i still lthink your ok, and yes i know u  :E

but my comments come from reading the DOA board mainly - seems a fair bit of TPS goin on there, as far as i'm concerned then, you have nothing to do with this/my point anyway - u can go back to ranting bout Cale lexy (altho finding it hard to believe that if 3/4 years ago i played u spiral down/vault/still grey and DIDN'T tell u who it was by, u wouldn't like it... eh? eh? *baits*

P.s lexy :dance: DUNDNUNDUNDUNDAAAA______ DUNDUNDUNDUNDUDNAAAA The voodoo, who-do-what-you-don't-dare-do people.
Voodoo! - yeah!! :E
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:10pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
well you lexy are an exception - if your opinion has never changed, and u hate them thats cool, i still lthink your ok, and yes i know u  :E

but my comments come from reading the DOA board mainly - seems a fair bit of TPS goin on there

P.s lexy :dance: DUNDNUNDUNDUNDAAAA______ DUNDUNDUNDUNDUDNAAAA The voodoo, who-do-what-you-don't-dare-do people.
Voodoo! - yeah!! :E

Thanks Skinny Dan. You're alright.

P.S :lol:
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:14pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
*end of thread*
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i dunno about the 50 from 500 figure, considering the size of the dancefloor for pendulum at ef at the show grounds (couple thousand surely) i'd say there would be maybe 50 from that who have actually got into the local scene. i've been going out for only 5 years and over the past 6 months have scaled back how many shows i got to. for all the success pendulum have had it's been disappointing to see how little the scene has grown here. there new tunes granite and whatever that other new one is called really are shit, the 2nd one especially, my god, by not making dnb (or electronic music for that matter) they have just made absolute shit FACT!

Fair call on 50 from 500, those 50 defiantly aren't socially supporting the scene more like supporting in from burnt CDs in the car.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lol i dont doubt u can smell me with your nose turned up that high



edit: you can probably smell the future
lol
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:21pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
its like taking maddona's latest rubbish,but she gets my respect cos she has single handed made pop what it is today.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

*wipes tears from eyes*
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:30pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
shes makin a comeback man
lol

yeah way bad example in retrospect
but its all i had at the time
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:35pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
shes makin a comeback man
lol

yeah way bad example in retrospect
but its all i had at the time


Everytime she makes a "comeback" I always think "aargh, it has arisen!".

Madonna is proof that voodoo exists and can be used to re-animate the dead.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

ROFL!!!
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 1:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
AAAAAAHAHAHA

Not even, n00b.

Yes, I read your entire post. Would you like me to comment on it paragraph by paragraph?

You're saying I'm an elitist because I don't like Pendulum. I don't agree. I personally couldn't give a FUCK if you like Pendulum or not. I DON'T. I NEVER HAVE. It's got nothing to do with me being elitist or hating on them because they're "successful" or whatever... it's the simple fact that I have never liked their music. I also dislike country music... am I an elitist for that too?

Like I have mentioned previously in this thread, Pendulum are not the be all and end all of drum and bass. It was around long before Pendulum and I'm sure it'll be around long after they've faded away. There are heaps of other awesome drum and bass producers out there that should be getting mega loads of attention, yet everyone hails Pendulum as the fucking pinnacle of drum and bass.

I'm not even entirely sure why Pendulum lovers get so fucking uptight when people DON'T like Pendulum. Like you have said, it's a personal choice/taste. Calling people elitists for disliking Pendulum but then taking offense when other people think you're an idiot for liking Pendulum is fucking stupid.

You're so full of shit, I can smell you from here.

 :lol:

Sorry Lexy, you know I have nothing but love for you, and I completely agree with you, but this does feel like sweet revenge for all those times you called me an elitist for pointing out my distaste for some of the music you listen to. That said, even the worst of your RNB collection trumps Pendulum, as at least there is some attempted soul there.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 1:20pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
:lol:

Sorry Lexy, you know I have nothing but love for you, and I completely agree with you, but this does feel like sweet revenge for all those times you called me an elitist for pointing out my distaste for some of the music you listen to. That said, even the worst of your RNB collection trumps Pendulum, as at least there is some attempted soul there.

:lol:

RNB FOR LIFE, YO
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 8:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Do you go round calling people idiots because they like a certain type of beer or wine or food over another,

I do.  :lookaround:

But it's VB for christ sakes! It's not a matter of "taste"! Nobody should like it! It's shit!

Or celery :shudders:. Nobody likes celery, except for evil doers. Are you a terrorist? Huh? ARE YOU???
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:09pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I do.  :lookaround:

But it's VB for christ sakes! It's not a matter of "taste"! Nobody should like it! It's shit!

Or celery :shudders:. Nobody likes celery, except for evil doers. Are you a terrorist? Huh? ARE YOU???

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/celery1603_600x410.jpg)

Ceeeeeleryyyyy
Ceeeeeleryyyyy!
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm with Liam on this one. Open mindedness about differing tastes is all well and good, but at some point a form of Social Darwinism needs to come into play and we need to purge society of its VB or celery lovers; Or at the very least make them pariahs.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/celery1603_600x410.jpg)

Ceeeeeleryyyyy
Ceeeeeleryyyyy!

That just proves it. The only thing worse than a celery eater, is a Chelsea player.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Yes, I read your entire post. Would you like me to comment on it paragraph by paragraph?

You're saying I'm an elitist because I don't like Pendulum. I don't agree. I personally couldn't give a FUCK if you like Pendulum or not. I DON'T. I NEVER HAVE. It's got nothing to do with me being elitist or hating on them because they're "successful" or whatever... it's the simple fact that I have never liked their music. I also dislike country music... am I an elitist for that too?

Like I have mentioned previously in this thread, Pendulum are not the be all and end all of drum and bass. It was around long before Pendulum and I'm sure it'll be around long after they've faded away. There are heaps of other awesome drum and bass producers out there that should be getting mega loads of attention, yet everyone hails Pendulum as the fucking pinnacle of drum and bass.

I'm not even entirely sure why Pendulum lovers get so fucking uptight when people DON'T like Pendulum. Like you have said, it's a personal choice/taste. Calling people elitists for disliking Pendulum but then taking offense when other people think you're an idiot for liking Pendulum is fucking stupid.

No thats not what I said at all. You completely missed the point.. by a fucking long shot.

Honestly, I've met you a few times and I think you're rad.

But on this you are so wrong it is not even funny.

For starters, did I ever call you elitist, did I single you out? NO.

You chose to read my post and take it as if it was aimed directly at you.

My disagreement is with people who think that their favourite style of music is so much better than what other people like and because other people like something different they're all idiots with no clue.

Let people have their fun, who gives a fuck if they like Pendulum, more power to them.

If an artist has 20-100 supporters in SA they're not going to come over here and automatically pull a crowd which will pay for them to come here.

You cannot tell me because 20-100 people support a show the music is superior to any other genre because its a better vibe. You like it? AWESOME. Good for you. Doesnt make me an idiot for liking something else.

P.S Celery is awesome.

Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 9:57pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
No thats not what I said at all. You completely missed the point.. by a fucking long shot.

Honestly, I've met you a few times and I think you're rad.

But on this you are so wrong it is not even funny.

For starters, did I ever call you elitist, did I single you out? NO.

You chose to read my post and take it as if it was aimed directly at you.

My disagreement is with people who think that their favourite style of music is so much better than what other people like and because other people like something different they're all idiots with no clue.

Let people have their fun, who gives a fuck if they like Pendulum, more power to them.

If an artist has 20-100 supporters in SA they're not going to come over here and automatically pull a crowd which will pay for them to come here.

You cannot tell me because 20-100 people support a show the music is superior to any other genre because its a better vibe. You like it? AWESOME. Good for you. Doesnt make me an idiot for liking something else.

P.S Celery is awesome.



Oh god, I really can't be bothered replying... but here goes...

What I wrote in reply was not actually a paragraph by paragraph comment on your post. I posed a question to you and then wrote a bit of crap underneath it. If you really want me to give you a blow by blow response to your huge post, then I'll give it a shot.

Who *was* your post aimed at? I felt like you lumped me in with the other Pendulum haters and felt the need to respond.

I've never said anything about any of the stuff you're commenting on... so if what you have said above is aimed at me, then I've got no idea what you're on about.

And like I've already said, I don't give a fuck who likes Pendulum, I don't and that's my choice. So, basically, everything in your post that is now bold, I agree with.

Hurrah.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:03pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Fucking terrorists.
Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 10:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 :lol:
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:21amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
if only grooverider had the support of pendulum eh? he'd still be the man now!

i personally can't think of the last tune pendulum have released that has tickled my fancy since still grey. that was what, 4-5 years ago now?

since then, i've seen pendulum about 10 times here in adelaide and only once (possibly twice knowing my hazy memory) have they (or whoever actually decides to tour) been able to actually mix well. the last few times i've only seen them admittedly because they are on with other dj's though, so i don't have much choice as to whether i go and see them or not. if i had the choice, i wouldn't bother, but i can't recall the last time pendulum came out on their own...

that makes one out of every five that have been decent. that said, the first time i saw el-hornet at traffic was one of the best set's of the year, and really pushed my love for drum and bass. after seeing them so much and seeing them perform pretty averagely at best 4 out of 5 times, you have to expect people to start criticising. as a punter, you pay good money to see what you expect to be good acts (that's why you buy the ticket after all). when you are consistently disappointed though you have to expect some people to say enough is enough.

what i'm trying to say is that you can't get annoyed for people not really digging the pendulum sound or caring that much for what pendulum are doing as much after what they have actually showed here in adelaide. most of the people that aren't into them so much now, loved them for a while at least. that i'm positive of. but you shouldn't expect people to keep supporting and bigging them up if they don't enjoy the sounds they have been pushing (and can't seem to be able to mix themselves)

whether myself or my friends are elitist's or not, i don't really care to be truthful. all i personally care about is the music i like. if i don't like it, i do believe i have the right to say so. as does everyone else. that's not elitism in the slightest. just different tastes in music.


god i hope that makes sense. i don't care to go into it much further.
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:25amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Amen Chris, i sarted typing something very similar last nite but couldnt be bothered.  Sums my thoughts to a tea
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 1:11pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
pendulum are crap i am elitist hear me roar!
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 1:49pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
(http://i4.tinypic.com/6pit4dj.jpg)

(from pendulum.com)
"an electronic Led Zeppelin, a crunked up Soundgarden, Tool meets Timbaland, combined with the synthetic aggression and sonic purity of the original Pendulum sound."

Pure Quality
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 7:59pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
can someone lock this thread?

its even more boring and pointless than the old 'religion' discussion
everyone know pendulum suck teh balls. enough already
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 8:03pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Their live show looks mad.

That is obviously what they have been aiming at with the style of tunes and image and I reckon they have done a great job.

Also on the 'fag image' tip, look at Reprazent's image/filmclips when they came out with In The Mode. Doesn't mean they weren't any good. They were pushing a new sound to the masses, and look at how well respected they are.

I for one don't really like much of Pendulum's stuff at all, but you can not deny that the dancefloor speaks volumes, and they are doing something very different, which is damn hard to do these days.,

Let them do their thing and forget about it. Please.
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 8:43pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
mmmkay
and youre trying to wind me up about liking dubstep :lol:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE LOCK THIS THREAD AND CHANGE THE TITLE TO ZOMG PENDULUM SUCK TEH BALLS
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 8:47pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

  :lol:

 Yeah threads kinda going in circle.

 Maybe it needs to be binned. Mods?
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 8:51pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
mmmkay
and youre trying to wind me up about liking dubstep :lol:

sorry for having an objective opinion


maybe i should act like a little kid and scream when i got nothing constructive to backup my stance
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 8:57pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
sorry for having an objective opinion


maybe i should act like a little kid and scream when i got nothing constructive to backup my stance

 :lol:

objective, what like 'dubstep is poo'

look up the word "subjective" and work out the difference between the two words :)
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
is this the dubstep thread?

i made an objective opinion on dubstep with the help of a youtube clip.

it shows some big dumb fat guy who cant dance, liking dubstep

that explains dubstep in my books. lame and boring.


you're being subjective dammit, i am asking for some form of opinion based on facts, not a subjective scream based on your feelings ;)

just cos you wear glasses doesnt mean you can stump me with words 'i dont know', while you actually do the exact thing you are mocking me for

damn, you should be in parliament
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
maybe YOU should mate ;)

maybe YOU should
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
ive seen that clip and its funny, albeit silly.

Heres one about the d&b that you like :E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Cx03tjf4s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Cx03tjf4s)
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:54pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
  :lol:

 Yeah threads kinda going in circle.

 Maybe it needs to be binned. Mods?

Fuck it. It's only going in circles because people have to work if they don't post in here. And I for one, HATE work. :E
Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 10:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 :lol:

HEEEEEHEHEHEHE
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 8:37amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah i don't wanna see this thread die.

it's neverending.
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 9:02amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
:rofl:

gold.

do you even know what i like??


yeah dude, im just digging :)

i did however think that bungle set you creamed yourself over was one of the worst i'd ever subjected myself to, but apart from that...

back to work dammit :E
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 9:36amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Guys!

Can we keep the hate and arguments focused solely upon Pendu in this thread please!!?!

I don't want to lose focus.

 :flog:

Plenty of juice left in this dead horse IMO.
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 10:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I for one like Pendulum and have defended them on many occasions on this very forum and will continue to do so.

 :boh:
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 10:20pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
you all seem to be forgetting the fact that drum and bass is officially dead.

you should toddle off and find something else to argue about on the information super highway.
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 10:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
whats big now in london?
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 10:34pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
stadium rock
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 11:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
And Polish people.
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 11:08pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
especially polish people!

i can't wait until they combine the two!

also word on the street is the spice girls are back.
Posted: 15 Jan 2008, 11:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
spice girls were on the victoria's secrets parade on about a month ago. lip syncing though :lol:
Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 12:11pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i'd still like to see them live
Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 2:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i'd still like to see them live

so would i. :)

i don't know too many that wouldn't want to see what they had to offer.


just don't want to ever see them try and mix again personally.
Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 4:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i'd still like to see them live

Looks like an amazing show! Wanted to go to WA for their new years  bash but to no avail. Love to see them at the BDO or something a little less dance orientated.
Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 10:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
so would i. :)

i don't know too many that wouldn't want to see what they had to offer.


just don't want to ever see them try and mix again personally.

just as long as they play dnb not the rock-ish stuff they have been making recently
Posted: 18 Jan 2008, 9:18pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I fucking love celery
Posted: 18 Jan 2008, 10:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
must... resist.. the temptation .. to ...
Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 8:33pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Tarantular just played on 'Underbelly' on channel 9....they even let it drop properly too! sign of the times!!  :lol:
Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 8:35pmrecoveredSubject: DNB declare Pendulum is dead
Can we rename this thread "DNB declare Pendulum is dead"?
Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 9:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
How about "Nessa declares this thread is dead"  :lol: :E
Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 9:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Hilarious for so many reasons.
Posted: 14 Feb 2008, 10:18amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Tarantular just played on 'Underbelly' on channel 9....they even let it drop properly too! sign of the times!!  :lol:

saw that and i immediately thought that it didn't go very well with the scene just sort of sounded like an afterthought, i reckon whoever made it just wanted an excuse to play pendulum
Posted: 14 Feb 2008, 10:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
saw that and i immediately thought that it didn't go very well with the scene just sort of sounded like an afterthought, i reckon whoever made it just wanted an excuse to play pendulum

yeh i thought they would've let it drop with the start of some action of sumthing......and it was edited as well....once i download it im gonna listen to it again but i reckon the edit was pretty dodge
Posted: 14 Feb 2008, 10:59amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeh i thought they would've let it drop with the start of some action of sumthing......and it was edited as well....once i download it im gonna listen to it again but i reckon the edit was pretty dodge

yeah the edit was dodge mate i can tell you from memory
Posted: 14 Feb 2008, 4:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeh i thought they would've let it drop with the start of some action of sumthing......

that would have been a whole lot better, or just left it with the intro and then dropped it when shit hit the fan!
Posted: 15 Feb 2008, 8:54amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
that would have been a whole lot better, or just left it with the intro and then dropped it when shit hit the fan!

i didn't think it worked properly at all, considering it was supposed to be set in 1995. :lol:
Posted: 15 Feb 2008, 10:21amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i think pure massacre woulda been good for it
Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 1:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
meh technotronic... * pomp op tha jam *
depends on the scene it was used in...
or MAYBE they thought the track was from 95 :E
:eh:
Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 8:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i reckon yr right - should be nuts
Posted: 20 Feb 2008, 1:02pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
whats with the tuesday action?

maybe it will be somewhere like the Ent Centre mid week ?? Im a little interested to see this.

doubt if this will be held in a club.
Posted: 20 Feb 2008, 4:10pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
maybe it will be somewhere like the Ent Centre mid week ?? Im a little interested to see this.

doubt if this will be held in a club.

 I was a little sceptical of the tuesday when I saw the flyer but a non club venue definately changes my attitude. saying that though, they could have put this show on at the cranker and I still would have gone!
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 7:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
as much as i think pendulum suck the fat one d&b-wise these days, i reckon theres a pretty good chance i'll go and check their live set nonetheless. at least for interest sake... im sure theylll put on a decent show. :)
Erika
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 8:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i'd still like to see them live

Here ya:

Pendulum announce April live tour, presented by Civil Society & inthemix
No doubt Perth’s finest ever dance music export, the one and only Pendulum will make their triumphant return to Australia in April, setting out on a live tour of their home country for the very first time. Although it won’t be the debut of their live show down under – having played a sold out show at Belvoir Ampitheatre in Perth on NYE 06/07, check the YouTube clip below for a taste of that legendary night! – it will be the first chance fans outside of WA have had the opportunity to experience Pendulum in all their live glory. Their shows in Sydney and Melbourne are proudly presented by Civil Society and inthemix!

The tour coincides with the release of Pendulum’s eagerly anticipated sophomore album ‘In Silico’, which comes out on their own label Ear Storm via Warner in the coming months. Preceded by the singles ‘Granite’ and ‘Propane Nightmares’, the album is expected to see their profile continue to grow in 2008, building on the success of their 200,000 copy selling debut LP ‘Hold Your Colour’. Tickets for the Sydney and Melbourne shows go onsale at 9am on Thursday March 6th. Details for Adelaide and Perth ticketing will be announced soon.

Pendulum ‘In Silico’ tour dates:

Apr 15th – Adelaide, Shores Complex
Apr 16th – Melbourne, Hi Fi Bar & Ballroom – presented by Civil Society & inthemix
Apr 17th – Sydney, The Metro – presented by Civil Society & inthemix
Apr 19th – Perth, Robinson Pavilion

Stay tuned to ITM for updates.

Pendulum playing ‘Blood Sugar’ live in Perth on NYE 06/07:

http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/aust/36566/Pendulum_announce_April_live_tour_presented_by_Civil_Society_inthemix
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 8:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
erika: http://www.adelaidemassive.com/index.php?topic=1150.0

;)
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 10:15amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
(http://www.dogsonacid.com/system/images//news/2483_2.jpg)
(http://www.dogsonacid.com/attachment.php?postid=8250137)
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 10:23amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

  :lol:

 Drum and bass is so conformist
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 12:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i might go and get my hair done... :lol:
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 12:46pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I wished I looked that cool
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 12:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Just came back from getting my eyebrows and ballsac waxed.

Hope Pendulum let me join now.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 1:05pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
bunch of fnk fags I say
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 3:32pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Depends what they do to you  :brow:

even a big queen screeching at me like a bitch and grabbing my ears trying to force me to blow him is likely to leave my ears in better shape than listening to a mega-mash up of granite, slam and blood sugar.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 3:39pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I have to admit I would love to hear the Granite remix whipped out. Has anyone actually got this "song??"
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 4:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
even a big queen screeching at me like a bitch and grabbing my ears trying to force me to blow him is likely to leave my ears in better shape than listening to a mega-mash up of granite, slam and blood sugar.

thats harsh!! I've seen some pretty ugly queens dude(in fact so ugly they make fucking disgusting men) and maybe he's grabbing your ears from behind for a bit of traction! hey hey, bet pendulums not souding that bad now?
Erika
Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 10:07amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 :lol:
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 2:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
im not sure you will be able to see this unless you sign up, but

http://www.pendulumlive.com/pendulumlive/files/viewthread.php?tid=185

is a thread discussing which member of pendulum is your favourite, featuring such gems as:



i think the guy on the right with the shades looks cool, but who is he?

Guy in the middle with the beard & the bad skin looks moody as...

my mate Dave is good friends with Paul Harding. He seems nice but can get a bit bitchy sometimes when he's been spending a lot of nights with Dave, so probably rob because a like his singing on Tarantula.



:rofl:
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 5:46pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Im actually quite fond of Gareth, as a person.

I don't think many people realise, that all publicity, good or bad, is good publicity. Getting people talking, about that person, shows to a certain extent that they actually give a shit. If you didn't give a shit, why bother even discussing it?

Ive just signed up to that forum, thanks for the link  :lol:
Oh and what happened to that Golide video? Did it get taken down? Would of liked to have seen that.
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 5:53pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
How come heaps of threads have a negative amount of posts????
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Oh and what happened to that Golide video? Did it get taken down? Would of liked to have seen that.

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/video.php
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:11pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
My god there are some idiots on that board aren't there?

Regarding Goldie's video comments.
Quote
The day that that kid starts selling more coppies of a single than granite, slam and blood sugar is the day that i will start respecting his opinion!

Edit: I wonder if Pendulum even approves of this site. I mean they are uploading bootlegs and copies of tracks?
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:16pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm gonna avoid joining up in fear that if I read it I may end up smashing my computer.
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:19pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Don't do it. I'm pissed off I even bothered to sign up. Just reading some of the posts I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry or have full on mental breakdown.
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:25pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I wonder if Pendulum even approves of this site. I mean they are uploading bootlegs and copies of tracks?

I think as long as they have fat bank accounts and well-stroked egos they couldn't care less

$$$
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:27pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
True. It seems every member has bought the Etched Granite Super Special Edition anyway.
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 6:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Haha either do I. I think you would have to pay me to own that. I mean Granite is pretty average to say the least, but the remix? I imagine you catch some kind of disease just touching it!
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 7:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
oh lordy

remember the days when paul used to grace us mere mortals with his presence? :biggrin:
jaisus. i remember him having to borrow time in the TOV studios to mix up their CD. how the mighty have fallen. :lol:
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 11:42pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Quote
Error
You are banned. You may not view the forums, post, make new topics, send U2U's or edit your posts.
 


Oh well that lasted all of, 4 hours.
Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 11:43pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
:lol:

what did you do?
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 12:00amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
haha apparently I'm banned too. I actually don't even think I made any bad comments. Closest was probably saying that I wasn't a huge fan of Hold Your Colour. Talk about Pendulum Nazi forum.
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 12:08amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
and that got you banned?

:lol:
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 12:52amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Someone should start a thread on there with a link to this thread.
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 12:56amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
loads of people from doa have already linked to threads on doa, including the one with the goldie video.
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 9:38amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Thinking back maybe it was my Goldie comment that got me banned. They were asking who should support Pendulum on their tour. I said Goldie should. Come to think of it I did call the 'Super Administrator' an idiot as well for saying that Goldie is a little kid and he wont listen to him until he sells more records.
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 2:52pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Thats it? you got banned for calling some one an idiot? or sugesting goldie as back up? thats pathetic! Maybe i'm just 'super stupid' but surely every forum wants at least some varying opinions?
Can I get banned from AM for calling some one a name(idiot or say dick head)?
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 2:55pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Can I get banned from AM for calling some one a name(idiot or say dick head)?

I did. Although I did call a LOT of people names LOTS of times.

The picture of a guy sucking another dude off didn't help either. I dare say that kind of thing would be more than acceptable on a Pendulum forum mind you.
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 2:56pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I actually read the forum guidelines, and you are supposed to have three warnings before you get fully banned, and be notified by email each time. Certainly didn't happen for me. Is amusing though, as there don't seem to be many people who post there, but the ones who do are massive fan boys. Seriously someone even started a list of drugs they take at Pendulum gigs. Was down to Alcohol, Pills, Weed, Shrooms and nothing. No all of the above and more feature?
Erika
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 10:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Don't do it. I'm pissed off I even bothered to sign up. Just reading some of the posts I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry or have full on mental breakdown.

DOA is the crappest! I could've told you that

So irritating trawling though all the crap to actually read anything substantial and so hard to follow

far too many banners and signatures which make reading from post to post difficult also... makes the thread soooo much longer than necessary


AND there are so many wankers on there that completely have no respect for any promoters, producers and DJs and totally bag the hell out of them in such a disgraceful fashion. Its jaw dropping. The times I have been on there I have been disgusted by the wankers on there for being a complete embarrassment to the human race. And to think you got banned Natho for slighty bagging Pendulum? Thats laughable

grr DOA! hate hate hate

im going on there now.  :lol: I wanna get banned too

Actually just went on there. too hard. Logging right on out


Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 10:29pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
pretty sure the aren't talking about doa
Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 10:33pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
they are talking about the pendulumlive.com forums

DOA isnt too bad if you sign up and selection the option to turn off signatures. makes it much less offensive.
Erika
Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 10:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
pretty sure the aren't talking about doa

OH

hahahaha

I didnt realise Pendulum have their fricken own forum! thats even worse!

 :lol:
Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 5:51pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
"Pendulum declare DNB is dead"

Lol, A bunch of guys who say their going to have a mixture Led Zeppelin of with drum & bass say it's dead.

What Next, Pendulum try to mix drum and bass with a song by Rihanna

I hope they're not that desperate to get some 14 year olds to buy their album  :ghey:
Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 6:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Come to think of it I did call the 'Super Administrator' an idiot as well for saying that Goldie is a little kid and he wont listen to him until he sells more records.

He well deserved it, Gee if that guy was sopposed to be an Super Admin, I don't want to know what sort of retards post around DOA.

Hell, I wouldn't have Terminator II or Inner City Life if it wasn't for Goldie.
Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 6:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
im not denying DOA has its share of retards, but they are not talking about DOA they are talking about the pendulumlive.com forums

:E
Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 6:24pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
im not denying DOA has its share of retards, but they are not talking about DOA they are talking about the pendulumlive.com forums

:E

Oh, well change me saying DOA to pendulumlive.com, I was thinking, Gee DOA must of had a huge, huge downfall.. but really, that's really dumb saying Goldies a little kid on a 'Pendulum Forum', Goldie was popular a decade and a half (roughly) before Pendulum and is literally miles more important than Pendulum.

But refusing to listen to the quality Drum and Bass Goldie has made because of his record sales and listening to and Enjoying the Commerical Junk Pendulum makes is just plain stupid.

When I was 9 I first heard Pendulum, I was a real tech-step kid and I have really always had something against them, but the admin on their site claiming that goldie is a little kid and saying that Drum & bass is dead makes me just plain hate them now.

Edit: 3rd line didn't make sense
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 6:04pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Im a party DJ so usually (not always) I'm play commercial club n pub shit. Over, what, 5 years, good old commercial house has made a huuuuge leap into my shows and gigs. It's unbelievable, when I think about it, most nights it'll get the most play.

I am so grateful to pendulum for their success. Getting the commercial kids into some harder stuff is so good. I am so, so, grateful. Now that seatbelt/tarantula are pop anthems, I can bridge sooo easily into shit they've never even heard before and they will stay on the d-floor, or flock to it even more...
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 7:39pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
This is why people like you, who have no idea, about the history of our music scene, are not wanted in playing drum and bass.

So you carry on playing your pop shit, with music you know nothing about. You might as well wear ear muffs because you def arent hearing what we are all saying. You are the kind of person who plays anything to get a dancefloor moving, you just admitted that.

thats a bit extreme... you dont need to be a die hard junglist to appreciate drum and bass, and not every dj can play the main stage of every phat rave. some djs enjoy more than one style of music and sometimes listen to a lot of stuff which is different to what they might play to pay the bills. if pendulum allows him to shift from playing commercial house and exposing people to drum and bass then this is a good thing imo. you might convert a few people into pendufans, but then again you might get some other people who want to find more than what pendulum have to offer.

:yup:
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 7:43pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
What happened, ATM? All your posts supporting Pendulum have been modified or deleted? Funny that.
Seriously, why all the rage against young Dill Pickle here? I think that you've been very harsh on him. All he has said is that playing DnB tracks that 'everybody' knows has enabled him to have more opportunity to play those 'harder' types of sounds in a pub/club atmosphere. I think you've shot him down pretty viciously and the dude is just trying to say that he's grateful he gets to play some DnB. I remember (not going waaaay back) when you weren't a Pendulum hater, but now some dude makes a comment and you tell him to fuck off. Seriously, what the fuck. It's music, just fucking music. I say that, and music is my life. I would never tell someone to fuck off because of their musical taste. Joke about it behind their back, sure, but I believe you should at least have the RESPECT to allow people to contribute to a conversation without biting their head off.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Pendulum have got popular from making pap and have turned around and pissed on the scene that got them where they are, and people who actually are making decent music. Thats what pisses me off.

I like Hazard a hell of a lot more.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:22pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
thats a bit extreme... you dont need to be a die hard junglist to appreciate drum and bass, and not every dj can play the main stage of every phat rave. some djs enjoy more than one style of music and sometimes listen to a lot of stuff which is different to what they might play to pay the bills. if pendulum allows him to shift from playing commercial house and exposing people to drum and bass then this is a good thing imo. you might convert a few people into pendufans, but then again you might get some other people who want to find more than what pendulum have to offer.

:yup:

I have to agree with ATM, I loved how she said it, but seriously, Pendulum are up themselves so badly, they declare DnB dead because they can't make any commercial stuff without people dissing them on DOA, that's freaking life.

If you want to make commercial stuff just move to trance or something like that, honestly we don't need and never did need pendulum, they were a mere pinch in DnB, yet they think they're kings and act as if they invented it and say it's dead, really, just get the fuck out of here.. we don't need you.

I mean if you want to start to listen to Drum & Bass go pick up Nightlife 3, it's commerical to some extent but not enough to dissapoint me.

I'm a Twelve year old kid, that personally hates commerical music, I know it's rare.. for me Drum & Bass is my main intrest, I love this stuff, I know so much about it, at such an early age I was listening, I'm enjoying every moment of it, but I'm worried that if we get too many people like pendulum DnB's pure excelence will be ironed out by the time I'm an adult, if that happens I will be out, just like House was, I had a dream about this.

I know I shouldn't be too serious about it, but it's my main intrest, I don't want it to go that way before I can even enjoy it more than just sitting behind a computer listening to it or going to Inbound and talknig to Simmo or Curt about the new stuff & listening to the vinyls they have there.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:23pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
ATM, I loved how he said it

Oh no you didn't say that!  :E

BTW - Vault was fucking huge when it came out. Lots of producers starting following the same trend after that.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:28pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Oh no you didn't say that!  :E

BTW - Vault was fucking huge when it came out. Lots of producers starting following the same trend after that.

I personally never liked Vault, but maybe that because I just genuinely hate Pendulum.

and I didn't know that ATM was a girl, sorry about that, I'll edit it  :E

Still need to get to know everyone, I've only met Simmo & Curt in person out of the whole AM unless someone went into Inbound while I was there and are AM'ers and I didn't know.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:38pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Calibre has sold more copies of vinyl than Pendulum ever will.

People like Calibre, Dom & Bad Company Uk had their vinyls sold because their tracks were pure gold, they didn't appeal to a large audience, but damn they were good.

Something Pendulum will never be able to do and make.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 8:58pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i fucking love spiral, but in general terms, pendulum really haven't contributed shit all to the DnB scene - but thats ok with me.

why? you ask. let me tell you. Pendulum have created this commercial shite that has gained a shitload of popularity, and as a result this has boosted their egos to the point that they have declared they are better than dnb, and have completely segregated themselves from the general dnb scene...i'm not sure why everyone is making such a big deal about this, let them gain more and more popularity and get more and more commercial, its not affecting us in anyway is it? sure, there'll be a bunch of homos wandering around claiming they love dnb when in actual fact they are talking about a completely different genre of music. if they by chance get into the more underground stuff, then chances are they will turn their back on Pendulum. thats how i came into the scene, im not proud to admit it, but its the truth...(and im sure im not alone here)

point is, there are 3 scenes in drum and bass. Commercial, General and Underground. Pendulum have pointed out that they want nothing to do with the less successful scenes so fuck them, let em do it. No other producers give a shit, theyll just continue to make the music they love regardless of a bunch of posers bagging the scene that they are no longer a part of, and regardless of the fact they are not earning as much as aforementioned posers....and people will continue to support them, cos its the music we love...

my  :2c:
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 9:01pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you here ATM. Theres no need to go off at the guy, as some people are simply 'pop' DJ's, and play what the crowd wants. As Khem put it he has to pay the bills, and it is alot easier, especially in Australia to get gigs playing popular music than DnB. Different people just like different styles of music, sure I can't stand most house, all RnB and even most Pendulum, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be played for people who do want to hear it. How would the crowd react if he suddenly dropped into, say a Concord Dawn tune, people would have no idea what song it is and would probably leave the dancefloor. He's getting payed to drop tunes that people want to hear, don't beat him up about it.

i fucking love spiral

And yes Spiral is a fucking awesome track. Really the only Pendulum track I personally like.

Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 10:50pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
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Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:00pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
nothing like a bit of spice for the old am cru
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:06pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
 :biggrin:


I dont know what the issue is really.

Pendulum have openly said that they are not drum and bass anymore.

Good luck to them !
Who knows what the future holds !!
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:12pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
ahh i see you have deleted your post...

 :brow:

carry on then

:hehe:
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Well I'm pretty sure we have completely diverged from the topic that was started when Dill Pickle said he was a party DJ who likes to drop Pendulum tracks.
Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:17pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
ahh i see you have deleted your post...

 :brow:

carry on then

:hehe:


I deleted it because I dont like being put into the Pendulum hate club. Ive bought thier vinyl, I supported them for years. I admired them. I despise everything thats now being assumed about me - thats being misinterpreted, misrepresented, just because im upset at thier recent behaviour. Just like they are upset at the dnb scenes behavour... when I think they have it distorted. We arent snivelling back stabbing people, its a scene full of life and growth and what I can see, happiness. Its just better to stfu, and let the music do the talking. Imo. So yeh, fuck it. Whatever. Past caring.

everything will be whats meant to be, right.

Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 11:22pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
right  :lighter:
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 12:58amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I despise everything thats now being assumed about me - thats being misinterpreted, misrepresented, just because im upset at thier recent behaviour.

Aren't you Miss Represent though?!?  :E
It's got nothing to do with you hating what Pendulum have done. You're not alone, that's for sure. I was just shocked that you told little Dill to fuck off because he plays their tunes. When I say shocked, and I don't know you from a bar of soap in real-life understand, I mean that this wasn't the response typical of everything else you have posted up on here. Maybe you are frustrated at the shit going down in the scene, but I just got on the defensive because it has nothing to do with my man Pickle. (I don't know him btw!) He is not to blame for Pendulum's alleged turning of the nose at the DnB scene. He likes some of their tracks, plays them out and that's that. He ain't scheming to fuck the Adelaide DnB scene up the arse from the inside. Being a relative newcomer (compared to most) to this forum, it irks me when dudes and dudettes get shot down for having a say. I have no problems at all with your opinions and shit, people can say what they like. And yes, I do realise that this is the internets and it shouldn't hurt people's feelings. All I'm saying is give Dizzle Pizzle a chance. You don't know him and you just told him that he is the problem with the Drum and Bass today.
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 2:04amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I didnt say "Fuck off if you are playing pendulum tunes" did I now, so dont twist it. I said fuck off, after a full stop, at the very end of very long paragraphs. Its a fuck off to everyone who thinks that they know whats going on, when they dont.

I also don't blame him for the state of underground drum and bass today. As far as I can see, the underground  drum and bass scene is healthy, and thriving and doing incredibly well globally.

He needs to realise, the music that he is playing, isnt even drum and bass. As said previously, Pendulum even admit its not drum and bass themselves.
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 6:28amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

everything will be whats meant to be, right.



here here. so pendulum will run its course, in whatever mutilated egowank it manifests into, & sooner rather than later they will just be a (quite rank) fart dissippating in the d&b breeze.
Life on earth will continue as before & all will be well with the little happy villagers.  :badwiggle:
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 7:38amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I’ve been listening to some old rollers from Back when Hold Your Colour was released.
And the hype about the album and requests for the rollers crew to drop their new tracks.
I know it’s a rave scene and we all have short memories. But that album was just so catchy that it took more than just the DnB heads in but most electronic music lovers.
What’s happened since that album I think can only be credited to what we think of them now.

Trumpormonkey I know your only 12 so when did you first listen to Pendulum’s older stuff, if that was when you already had a hate for them then theirs not much hope for you to experience what it was like for the scene let alone the Australian scene when a DnB act from Australia went to the top. Vault, Spiral, Another Planet, Still Grey, Back to you are all worthy tracks in my opinion and there maybe more.
I remember my first times at Traffic El Hornet had that place packed, and he was dropping some dope DnB.
This was all back in the day but that’s how I like to remember Pendulum they spun the scene on its head. Since then well………………Read the rest of this thread.
Still one of my fav DnB shows was Pendulum Album launch at Earth, generally the DnB heads all there representing. Since that show they have always pulled the commercial DnB fence sitters as some would call the HQ crew. A lot of these crew take away from the reason I love the scene, the easy going friendly nature, we’re all their for the same reason to enjoy the music, not to chase ladies round and start fights.
I can’t argue with peoples views of where Pendulum are now but I hate seeing them shot down for what they were to the scene when they first hit it.
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 7:49amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Coma by Pendulum is a fucking awesome tune!









Pity it's not the same group :E
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 8:31amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I’ve been listening to some old rollers from Back when Hold Your Colour was released.

that's when i started not to like them very much tbh.

absolutely loved their stuff before that.

ah well. i really don't care anymore. there's plenty of good music out there to talk about instead. :)
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 8:39amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I didnt say "Fuck off if you are playing pendulum tunes" did I now, so dont twist it. I said fuck off, after a full stop, at the very end of very long paragraphs. Its a fuck off to everyone who thinks that they know whats going on, when they dont.

I also don't blame him for the state of underground drum and bass today. As far as I can see, the underground  drum and bass scene is healthy, and thriving and doing incredibly well globally.

Lucky you deleted your post then. Wouldn't want any proof that I twisted your words or anything. Why backpedal? Why not just admit you lashed out at someone and let's forget about it? Instead you're accusing me of twisting your words and shit. Well, I'm not deleting my posts. so anyone who wants to read what I said can feel free.
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 9:04amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
that's when i started not to like them very much tbh.

absolutely loved their stuff before that.

ah well. i really don't care anymore. there's plenty of good music out there to talk about instead. :)

Fair call
Initially I really liked the album but over time and due to excessive play it wore thin.
And then the sample library became thin
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 9:30amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
hold your colour is awesome. i just listened to it in the car we had here last week. i am a fan of that album. i have not heard the majority of the new album. i am a drum and bass nut.

what do i do now?
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 9:44amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Is his 'pendulum declare D&b dead' or 'Australia declares pendulum dead'? Cause pretty much everyone on here has come up with bugger all reasons to have them assassinated in such a way. You all go on 'i don't like pendulum' or 'they're too commercial' blah blah blah. they only got that commercial value through SELLING D&B to, you guessed, you me and every other punter. We are the reason they sold as many and got requested so much(and still do). We helped define their style by going off to the big ones on the floor! it wasn't all the house nutters at their shows Saying 'yeah we love tarantula' where they got all their feedback.

maybe instead of expressing your hatred for what they have become, don't buy their album and support other shit which you feel is worthy of your devotion! maybe then they'll get the picture. Or they'll have a big enough fan base and wont have to annoy you D&B purists with the constant reminder that they got bored with the scene and decided to do something about it!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 10:30amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
maybe instead of expressing your hatred for what they have become, don't buy their album and support other shit which you feel is worthy of your devotion! maybe then they'll get the picture. Or they'll have a big enough fan base and wont have to annoy you D&B purists with the constant reminder that they got bored with the scene and decided to do something about it!

What, become emo and slash themselves in protest of how snobby dnb is??

Well done Pendulum, way to stick it to the man :clap:
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 10:33amrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
hold your colour is awesome. i just listened to it in the car we had here last week. i am a fan of that album.

I ignored the album for about a year, stupid of me.  Brushing aside the flap there are some wicked tunes on it.  Hope the next one is better, although i am a pessimist at heart...

Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 12:13pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
what do i do now?
Produce some more tunes dwog, team up with some UK crew while your over their.
I want to see some DJ Patch Dubplates, got anything in the pipeline?
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 4:32pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Trumpormonkey I know your only 12 so when did you first listen to Pendulum’s older stuff, if that was when you already had a hate for them then theirs not much hope for you to experience what it was like for the scene let alone the Australian scene when a DnB act from Australia went to the top. Vault, Spiral, Another Planet, Still Grey, Back to you are all worthy tracks in my opinion and there maybe more.

Ok, I think I may have liked Vault & Another Planet for a short time when I was about nine, because I couldn't find any more Moving Shadow tracks to listen to.

Being at nine years old when Peundulum were at the top and only having a year of experience with Drum & Bass, back then I didn't even know there was a scene in Australia, I didn't know there were so many people intrested in Adelaide, heck I don't think I even knew Pendulum were Australian back then.

Sure it's great to have an Australian act move to the top a few years back, but honestly, I don't care where people are from, I care what their music sounds like, I don't care if their on the top and coolest thing right now, I care that their music sounds good to me, Pendulum's tracks are worthy, just not of my taste.

They are worthy tracks, but they arn't something I'd listen to anymore, but that's just my opinion, everyone has different tastes.
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 4:45pmrecoveredSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Being at nine years old when Peundulum were at the top and only having a year of experience with Drum & Bass, back then I didn't even know there was a scene in Australia, I didn't know there were so many people intrested in Adelaide, heck I don't think I even knew Pendulum were Australian back then.

lol at 9 I was listening to Vanilla Ice
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Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 6:14pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
whoa, lot can be said in what, 24hrs?

Sucks I missed my first flame here - would've printed it and framed it and gave it to my grandson................

Is there an undelete?!

didn't I start out by saying I was a party DJ?

Anyhoo,

I'm curious, if Pendulum isn't DnB, has anyone heard of a live dub / DnB band called; "The Bird" from the East Coast.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 7:31pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
didn't I start out by saying I was a party DJ?

Mate that's exactly what I was trying to point out. Somehow the conversation drifted to you being abused for playing Pendulum I think. Then it just moved to Pendulum hating all together. As much as I'm not a huge fan of pendulum I'm still quite happy if it gets dropped somewhere like the Grand or wherever if I happen to be there.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 7:44pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
. As much as I'm not a huge fan of pendulum I'm still quite happy if it gets dropped somewhere like the Grand or wherever if I happen to be there.
Same. Pendulum is still better that 99.9999% of R'nB toyness and commercial chode that gets played.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 2:45amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I just have to add if I had a dollar for every musical act in the world that produced some awesome shit over one or several albums, then later released tunes that weren't as good as their original sounds, I'd be rich!

Reasons include: they commercialised their sound/their creativity waned/they got lucky with a particular sound at a particular time/they flogged a fresh idea to death/or they simply couldn't recapture the magic they had with a certain release.

Artists could include imo: Iron Maiden, The Rolling Stones, Smashing Pumpkins, DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Dr. Dre, De La Soul, Machinehead, Pearl Jam, Rage Against The Machine, the list goes on...

Before anyone flames me for anyone I've mentioned above it must be said they're all great artists in my right with music I love, subsequent releases from them have still been awesome, but not quite as good as their first or first few releases.

I like most of the stuff Pendulum have put out, I just haven't liked much from Blood Sugar onwards. The early days when they blew up were incredible. No one can hate on that. The feeling I got when a Pendulum track was dropped, the patriotic pride I felt at that moment was a defining moment in my love for d&b. They really ushered in a fresh spin on the genre, people like Sub Focus released some equally incredible music in the same vein in their wake.

Let's not forget these same revolutions in the d&b scene have occurred before, notably Ed Rush & Optical and Matrix (still producing gold but!), etc. with the tech step stuff in the late 90's. I can also argue that Ed Rush & Optical aren't a scratch on what they used to be now either...the last few tunes I can remember liking from them have been remixes of other tracks.

It's true that Pendulum's comments (re: the original point of this thread) are quite disappointing, but I defy any real drum & bass head to say they don't like at least one tune they have made...or the way they have put Australian drum & bass on the world map...
TrumpormonkeyPosts: 295
Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 7:00pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
video for propane nightmares is up on their myspace.

not bad either.

http://www.myspace.com/officialpendulum

I just listened to one of their songs, for me all of their songs soud the same like the drums & synth, bass... with a different rhythm , it's just now half of the song is some guy singing and his voice sounds like he should be in an emo/metal band and some guitar strums.

IMO they were way better before, you could actually tell the difference between their songs because they didn't always include the same drums, bass in them.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 8:12pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I just have to add if I had a dollar for every musical act in the world that produced some awesome shit over one or several albums, then later released tunes that weren't as good as their original sounds, I'd be rich!

 laugh
hip hop was the worst at this for me, but seriously, i cant remember a hero-zero transition going so quickly as that for pendulum. fucking hell, they were the bomb to the shit you just couldnt scrape out from the tread in your shoes like *snap* that.
shame. i'd love to know what happened.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 4:00pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
video for propane nightmares is up on their myspace.

not bad either.

http://www.myspace.com/officialpendulum

I just checked this out was blown away! unfortunately not in a good way. I haven't checked out their myspace page before and I was shocked. That film clip and their page are flat out embarrassing. It is sooo pop rock/emo style it's pathetic. What the fuck are they thinking? I mean a new look sure but come on!
TrumpormonkeyPosts: 295
Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 4:02pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I just checked this out was blown away! unfortunately not in a good way. I haven't checked out their myspace page before and I was shocked. That film clip and their page are flat out embarrassing. It is sooo pop rock/emo style it's pathetic. What the fuck are they thinking? I mean a new look sure but come on!

yeah, I felt the same too
EffectPosts: 31
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 1:20amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
now half of the song is some guy singing and his voice sounds like he should be in an emo/metal band and some guitar strums

so true...

but when I think of pendulum, I think of 'blood sugar' - got the picture vinyl for my birthday 2 weeks ago:) -and 'another planet'.  Hearing all my mates overseas raving about them just made me swell with pride to think that pendulum is Australian, sort of like watching the olympics and seeing the aussies wearing a gold, or watching the penalties of the Socceroos vs Uruguay 2005 world cup qualifer.

I think that pendulum in the end has done more good for the dnb scene in australia than bad...
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Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 8:28pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
My desire to see Pendulum live is dead.

Fuck that what was I thinking.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 8:50pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Their music has never been inspiring, nor groundbreaking.

Rob strikes me as a talented musician, who would prefer to make band music.

Why doesn't he ditch the other two hangers-on who like drum and bass, who can't make music, and form his own band? He could probably do well on MySpace or something.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 10:41amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Thats harsh, so spiral never did it for ya???

rob was too cool for dnb by then!
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 4:36pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Their music has never been inspiring, nor groundbreaking.

Yes it was. Their early stuff was perhaps some of the most groundbreaking DnB ever made. Without a doubt the most groundbreaking of the 2000's.

A completely new sound when nobody else was doing anything remotely fresh.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 5:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Yes it was. Their early stuff was perhaps some of the most groundbreaking DnB ever made. Without a doubt the most groundbreaking of the 2000's.

A completely new sound when nobody else was doing anything remotely fresh.

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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 6:54pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Their music has never been inspiring, nor groundbreaking.

but werent you already jaded and listening to ancient dancehall by the time pendulum dropped? laugh
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 7:25pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Yes it was. Their early stuff was perhaps some of the most groundbreaking DnB ever made. Without a doubt the most groundbreaking of the 2000's.

A completely new sound when nobody else was doing anything remotely fresh.

Sounded very forumlaic and run-of-the-mill to me.

Listened to plenty of Pendulum in London. Andy C et al caned Vault etc at The End / Fabric / Herbal etc

Big dancefloor tunes, but so was Mo Fire, Messiah, Deadline etc. They were big tunes till the next big dancefloor tunes took them over.

And the wheels of drum and bass just kept on turning.

Pendulum's music will not stand the test of time.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 7:27pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Thats harsh, so spiral never did it for ya???

How was it different to 'Morning Light' or any Dillinja track with a vocal?

Disposable pap.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 7:28pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Actually, I didn't start buying dancehall/reggae till after Pendulum's appearance on the scene.

So nerr.
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 7:29amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
do you like seeing your name rob?

like a budgie with a mirror. laugh
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 7:10pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
do you like seeing your name rob?

like a budgie with a mirror. laugh

And a pink shirt.





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Posted: 1 Apr 2008, 3:45pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
oh dear lord.  i just heard their latest single on the JJJ's.  what a gigantic pile of shit.
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 7:25amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Clownstep??.. no, no. Pendulum declare Clownrock is alive.  cl0wn teefslay cl0wn teefslay cl0wn teefslay cl0wn teefslay

led zep would be proud.
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 7:40amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i heard some people are going to be out the front of the gig protesting, is it true?
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 9:16amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Yes it was. Their early stuff was perhaps some of the most groundbreaking DnB ever made. Without a doubt the most groundbreaking of the 2000's.

A completely new sound when nobody else was doing anything remotely fresh.

Unfortunately I somewhat agree with this opinion

"Eccentricity is not, as some would believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd." (Edith Sitwell)
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 5:14pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i heard some people are going to be out the front of the gig protesting, is it true?

protesting what? work choices at HQ? what a joke. People protesting against music they didn't like instead of going to shows they do like seems like making a point for the sake of making a point. the only people who see the protest would be the people going who already have tickets!
Unless its one of those 'Id rather be naked than wear fur' protests then I say bring it on!
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 6:24pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I'm assuming you're taking the piss there Jules.

As if anybody would be sad enough to consider protesting like that.
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Posted: 8 Apr 2008, 7:39pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i am taking the piss. i forgot the teef

rally is on, starting at parliament house all down north terrace.. its the anti pendulum rally

teef

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Posted: 9 Apr 2008, 10:55amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
laugh

andy would taser anyone who protested against pendulum.
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Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 8:22pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
How was it different to 'Morning Light'

but so was Mo Fire

but Rob, you forget that you started entire THREADS devoted to these two tracks for example. they obviously made some mark on you to do that!



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Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 6:10amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
did anyone check pendulum killling drum and bass last night? almost like they had a vendetta.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 6:46amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I did notice they had definitely been reading "Dummies Guide to Predictable Rock Moves" for their live show.

They had definitely spent plenty of time practising with a tennis racket in front of the mirror in preperation for the tour. There are even some classic back stage rider stories floating about. Gold.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 7:46amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
rumour has it they hired out Rock band on 360 and locked themselves away for a week for intense training.

dedication imo
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Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 3:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
rumour has it they hired out Rock band on 360 and locked themselves away for a week for intense training.

dedication imo

LMFAO! Gold!

did anyone check pendulum killling drum and bass last night? almost like they had a vendetta.

Gold too!

Personally I didnt expect to even hear a dnb tune there at all...

I think let em think its dead - who cares what they think - dnb was around  before they making tunes and I am sure it will be around for a long time after they finish making tunes.

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Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 4:21pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I think let em think its dead - who cares what they think - dnb was around  before they making tunes

Way, way before... Pendulum saying Drum and Bass is dead is just like a fairly known worker at a car manufacturing plant saying the cars they make are dead, I know.. it sounds stupid.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 1:03pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
did anyone check pendulum killling drum and bass last night?

More like fuckin it.
An if d&B is dead already, the n  doesn't tht make them Necrophiliacs??? teef
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 5:46amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
UK Top 10
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles.shtml

1      Madonna Ft Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes
2    Sam Sparro - Black & Gold
3    Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
4    Usher Ft Young Jeezy - Love In This Club
5    Estelle Ft Kanye West -American Boy
6    September - Cry For You
7    Flo Rida Ft T-Pain - Low
8    Will I Am Ft Cheryl Cole - Heartbreaker
9    Pendulum - Propane Nightmares
10     Scouting For Girls - Heartbeat
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 9:20amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
that is crazy, have they made the top ten before?
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 10:19amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah, but have a look at the rest of the pap in that list.

only half good tune there is by kanye west. icon_rolleyes

guess they're getting what they set out to achieve though. well done to them.
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 10:20amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i've never even heard of those tunes!!!   laugh
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 10:21amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah, but have a look at the rest of the pap in that list.

only half good tune there is by kanye west. icon_rolleyes

the glass is def half empty on that tune
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 10:32amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
only half good tune there is by kanye west. icon_rolleyes

I heard that American Boy song on the radio a while ago in someones car. I heard it 5 times in that many hours. Worst song I have heard in a long time, it was so bad in fact, that it actually made my ears bleed.
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 10:54amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I heard that American Boy song on the radio a while ago in someones car. I heard it 5 times in that many hours. Worst song I have heard in a long time, it was so bad in fact, that it actually made my ears bleed.

laugh

that's what i was getting at. you know you haven't really moved that far forward when that's the best song there.
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 12:50pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I couldnt believe that I heard Pendulum on the today show as some background music last week!

FFS
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 12:53pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
laugh

that's what i was getting at. you know you haven't really moved that far forward when that's the best song there.

It basically uses a whole instrumental by Will-i-am called I cant wait... ok song, but not very groundbreaking.
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 5:18pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
The uk charts include downloads and ringtones Fuckin shit loads of ringtones get sold daily and sad as that fact is, I'm sure it played a huge part in the No. 9 placing!
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 6:50pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah, but have a look at the rest of the pap in that list. 

laugh

like the australian top ten is any better

teef

i dont mind that american boy tune, not something i would ever buy but its quite catchy. better than propane nightmares.

hehe
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Posted: 5 May 2008, 7:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Each to their own but I'd much rather Propane Nightmares, in which there is at least some hint of musical skill at a very basic level. Compared to American Boy; Propane Nightmares looks more like Scarified by Racer X. IMO that is.
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 12:01amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I don't mind that Flo Rida track, catchy as all hell. Best pop rap tune I've heard in a while...
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 1:10amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Each to their own but I'd much rather Propane Nightmares, in which there is at least some hint of musical skill at a very basic level. Compared to American Boy; Propane Nightmares looks more like Scarified by Racer X. IMO that is.

Are you saying Pendulum have more musical skill than Kanye West?

Seriously?
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 2:36amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Are you saying Pendulum have more musical skill than Kanye West?

Seriously?

Dope producer for sure. He may be pop but he's pushing mainstream hip hop production on a different level...
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 9:09amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Are you saying Pendulum have more musical skill than Kanye West?

Seriously?

That's actually I surprisingly hard question to answer, although that is the only Kanye West song I have heard, and is utter shit IMO. Although Pendulum are utter shit these days as well. How about I change my statement. They are both as shit as each other.
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 9:28amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
kanye west >>>>>>>> pendulum

by a mile.

his new album is pretty good for the most part. thumbs-up

can't seem to ever get 'flashing light's' out of my head. so well produced.
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 11:07amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
How about I change my statement. They are both as shit as each other.

How can you judge anybody on the basis of one song?

Especially somebody who is up there as one of the better producers in the world right now.
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 11:39amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
[video: www.youtube.com]

play this link natho. thumbs-up

would recommend you have a listen to some of his other stuff too mate. he's making some quality music. Smiley
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 11:53amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
[video: www.youtube.com]

This is all you need to listen to to realise that the 'Ye is straight dopeness. Have always rated his productions for others above his own albums. Having said that, I'm a pretty big fan of all his albums, especially 'The College Dropout'.
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 11:57amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
agree with you there mate. tune!

annnnyway. let's get back to pendulum though shall we. thumbs-up
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 11:59amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
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Posted: 6 May 2008, 12:00pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yep. pretty sure that's speed driving that one. Smiley
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 6:29amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yeah, but have a look at the rest of the pap in that list.

only half good tune there is by kanye west. icon_rolleyes


You seem to have overlooked

7 - Flo Rida Ft T-Pain - Low

 
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 9:22amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i actually haven't ever heard that tune to be honest. Smiley
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 9:28amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
its terrible imo, i heard a snippet of it on those ringtone ads on fox, surely that tells ya something  laugh
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 12:39pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
its terrible imo, i heard a snippet of it on those ringtone ads on fox, surely that tells ya something  laugh

ahhhhhhh. thumbs-up
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 1:10pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
You seem to have overlooked

7 - Flo Rida Ft T-Pain - Low

 


i'm 99.99% sure this is a piss take post. the song is fucking rubbish!
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 2:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
laugh

fair enough.

hard to tell with tony as he has one of the broadest taste when it comes to taste in music i've ever known.
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Posted: 7 May 2008, 10:34pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
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Posted: 8 May 2008, 9:36amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
rofl rofl rofl

 hurl

my god.

would like to say thanks tim. but you know.
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Posted: 8 May 2008, 10:00amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i listened to the new album a few times yesterday.. i must say i do like it.

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Posted: 8 May 2008, 10:25amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
guess they're getting what they set out to achieve though. well done to them.

that is the last thing i actually said about pendulum mate. i don't hate them. Smiley

it's gone off topic the last page. unless you're talking about that flo-rida tune.

the only thing i've heard off the new album is propane nightmares, which i don't like. but i can't really judge the rest for myself till i hear it.
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Posted: 9 May 2008, 9:18pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Pendulum have done what most DnB acts would deep down only love to do: broken free of the mould and spurred the creation of a new style of production, the big beat dnb that has been ever present in the scene since they arrived. There alot of hating going but fair play to hem for what they've done and the new album seems to be getting good review too so leave em alone


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Posted: 10 May 2008, 7:33amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
the new album seems to be getting good review too so leave em alone


good review where? Haven't heard too many good reviews at all! I cant comment as I haven't heard the album but of those who have, not too many have had good things to say!
I've always been a big supporter of the pendu boys but I wasn't impressed by their live show and their new music doesn't really break any moulds, instead they seem to have just painted their mould black and put an emo wristband on it and told everyone it was fresh music!
good luck to them in the future but I definately wont be holding them in the same light that I had previous.
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 2:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
that is the last thing i actually said about pendulum mate. i don't hate them. Smiley

it's gone off topic the last page. unless you're talking about that flo-rida tune.

the only thing i've heard off the new album is propane nightmares, which i don't like. but i can't really judge the rest for myself till i hear it.

it's the album of the week on jjj. awesome exposure again for them. thumbs-up

have had a listen because of it to a few of their tunes from the album. i don't mind a couple of them. nothing amazing personally, and i wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but it's certainly not that bad.

will have a couple more listens i'm sure this week...
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 3:13pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
standout tunes for me are different and 9,000 miles
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 10:20pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Was looking for some cars to steal on Isohunt last night and in the top searches list, Pendulum was in the top 50. From memory in terms of music only Coldplay & Madonna were higher on the list than them.
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 10:22pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
From Knowledge MAG:

"I just can't help myself sometimes. For example", Rob pauses for a second to play a track called 'Mutiny' from 'In Silico'; "The Dogs On Acid board are going to HATE this one", he laughs as he hits play.

"Sometimes if we're writing a tune and I'm thinking about how much the haters are going to hate it, it drives us on," he says as 'Mutiny' plays on in the background."I almost only put this synth line in there because I knew what would be said about it".


laugh

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Posted: 18 May 2008, 10:58pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
From Knowledge MAG:

"I just can't help myself sometimes. For example", Rob pauses for a second to play a track called 'Mutiny' from 'In Silico'; "The Dogs On Acid board are going to HATE this one", he laughs as he hits play.

"Sometimes if we're writing a tune and I'm thinking about how much the haters are going to hate it, it drives us on," he says as 'Mutiny' plays on in the background."I almost only put this synth line in there because I knew what would be said about it".


laugh



That's a fairly petty way for him to be looking at it...what about putting that synth in because you think it's gonna sound wicked and it fits the overall picture...really sad...any shred of musical integrity left is going quickly in that dude!
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 11:08pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Yeah thats pretty bad, and Amy Winehouse is a real-life crackhead because thats "what the people want"  laugh

IMO Rob secretly logs into DOA under another name, starts most of the wars, then masts over his achievements.

Might give the album a listen shortly..
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 11:20pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
fk me the new album is crap. Completely uninspired repetitive guitar riffs... tis a shame
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 11:23pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
From Knowledge MAG:

"I just can't help myself sometimes. For example", Rob pauses for a second to play a track called 'Mutiny' from 'In Silico'; "The Dogs On Acid board are going to HATE this one", he laughs as he hits play.

"Sometimes if we're writing a tune and I'm thinking about how much the haters are going to hate it, it drives us on," he says as 'Mutiny' plays on in the background."I almost only put this synth line in there because I knew what would be said about it".


laugh



 It's like the ex-girlfriend at the party with her new man. Desperately whoring it up in front of the ex boyfriend, acting like he is not even there when every inch of her wants him to notice her and get jealous.

 Yawn.

 
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 11:49pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I actually listened to the album with an open mind and actually decided to try and like it rather than write it off instantly. Disregarding the new band format and the whole live thing they're trying, the album itself is really poor. I just don't understand why they choose to use the same drums, the same synths, the same sounds etc in every tune. It almost comes across as an album of Slam remixes more than anything else.

Its almost like they've run out of ideas or like that sound so much that they're going to make every tune sound pretty much the same. It's not that they're horrible tunes, it's just that they have done absolutely nothing interesting or new. When you look at the variety and fresh ideas in their first 10 releases, it is just really disappointing. It is like they went into the studio thinking hey, Slam made us all this money so obviously the mainstream market likes that sound so lets rape it to death.

Either that or they have simply run out of ideas.

Whatever they say in interviews or whatever, it is pretty obvious that this album was made purely & simply to make money.
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Posted: 19 May 2008, 1:13amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Whatever they say in interviews or whatever, it is pretty obvious that this album was made purely & simply to make money.

I think if you want to stay signed to Warner then that is the general idea anyway. Needless to say, they're probably all fairly pleased with how things are going for them.

I don't think I'll be buying the album, any owners want to host a listening party? teef
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Posted: 19 May 2008, 1:41amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I think if you want to stay signed to Warner then that is the general idea anyway. Needless to say, they're probably all fairly pleased with how things are going for them.

But one would hope no matter who they are signed to, you would think that any artist would have some intention of progressing their latest album from the previous one. With major labels it is about trying to find the balance between keeping the label happy whilst moving their sound forward.

I've only heard 6 tunes from this album so far and not one has made any moves forward whatsoever. Having your own sound doesn't mean using pretty much the exact same sound in every tune.
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Melvin SmileyPosts: 459
Posted: 19 May 2008, 8:59amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
http://www.beatportal.com/blogs/post/pendulum-strike-back/

“The only comments I don’t get are the ones saying we’ve ‘sold out’.

“I define ‘selling out’ as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don’t really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

s=40052ea33245a080435f0616602c37aa&threadid=536978&perpage=20&pagenumber=8



From Knowledge MAG:

"Sometimes if we're writing a tune and I'm thinking about how much the haters are going to hate it, it drives us on," he says as 'Mutiny' plays on in the background."I almost only put this synth line in there because I knew what would be said about it".


Sounds pretty contradictory. If selling out is giving the people what they want then surely thats the same as putting in the synths to piss off the haters.
ErikaPosts: 2,229
Posted: 19 May 2008, 12:28pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
From Knowledge MAG:
"I almost only put this synth line in there because I knew what would be said about it".
laugh

Explains it all really.

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Posted: 19 May 2008, 5:48pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I have had a quick listen through and first impressions =  Muse-lite   Vocoder-heavy
About four or five riffs seem really familar too. Maybe too familar.
Best song is 9000 Miles by about that distance. That doesn't bode well for the rest of the album, because the tune is not really that great.
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Posted: 20 May 2008, 8:01amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I hear the boys are lining up a cameo on neighbours, followed by a UK pantomime stage tour.
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Posted: 20 May 2008, 5:17pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums.shtml

pendulum's album debuted at number 2 in the uk, second only to neil diamond...

Thats astounding! I'm completely blown away. But then again it's probably just as astounding that Neil Diamond's No.1!  I could never have guessed that sales would do so well for them!
Ya well, good on 'em! They've made it big time and will probably never turn back I guess my one hope would be that El Hornet see's the light!
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 6:10pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
anyone see pendo power in this weeks zoo mag.  the album got 5 stars!
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 7:20pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
5 stars

great read btw this week has the worlds 108 top models
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 7:24pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
i dont understand
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 4:58pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
What don't you understand?
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 11:42pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I listened to it.

All I can say is I want that part of my life back.

I am quite open when it comes to music and wanted to give it a chance, but it is quite simple - it is not good music. Not at all.
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Posted: 23 May 2008, 8:45amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I listened to it.

All I can say is I want that part of my life back.

I am quite open when it comes to music and wanted to give it a chance, but it is quite simple - it is not good music. Not at all.


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Posted: 19 Jun 2009, 9:09pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
my brothers and all their mates are full Metal/Thrash fans of Metallica, Pantera, Slayer, FNM, Slipknot, NOFX, etc etc and they all seem to love Pendulum

I love Metal

I hate Pendulum
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Posted: 19 Jun 2009, 10:13pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
fuck knows. i know he does produce though. someone over on doa said that he's been twittering that he's back in the studio making some dubstep i think.

Nah, I meant he doesn't have anything to do with the production of Pendulums tracks. At least I didn't think he did anyway.
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Posted: 19 Jun 2009, 11:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Pop metal fans aren't heavy metal fans IMO, they are pop fans teef



yup.

could see people who love Bullet for My Valentine getting into Pendulum and thinking their pretty cool. Look for massive fringes at a dnb show soon
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Posted: 19 Jun 2009, 11:33pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Nah, I meant he doesn't have anything to do with the production of Pendulums tracks. At least I didn't think he did anyway.

Not now I don't think, but as far as I knew, he was a big part in shaping their original sound - they had the production skills and gave him their earlier tracks and he helped push them in the right direction to create their dancefloor sound.
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Posted: 20 Jun 2009, 12:34amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
He also had the contacts in the scene to get their music out there and heard.
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Posted: 20 Jun 2009, 9:14amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
yup.

could see people who love Bullet for My Valentine getting into Pendulum and thinking their pretty cool. Look for massive fringes at a dnb show soon

As much as your taking the piss there, I was impressed by bullet for my valentines live show. I'm not into them but live thought they were okay.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 4:58pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
. I'm not into them but live thought they were okay.


sounds like Pendulum
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Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 10:26pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I just Youtubed some Bullet For My Valentine cos I had nfi who they were. All I can say is lol.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 10:39pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I just Youtubed some Bullet For My Valentine cos I had nfi who they were. All I can say is lol.

they're Welsh and I still hate em


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Posted: 22 Jun 2009, 2:18pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lol
I had no idea who they were until my 10 year old brother played them for me.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 8:12pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Why would Pendulum even bother with DnB anymore?

Especially when their current sound has them playing main stage at Glastonbury in front of 200,000 people!

[video: www.youtube.com]
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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 8:21pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
lol when does Pendulum guitar hero come out?
whats with ansenics push button guitar?
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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 8:35pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
looks like a midi controller in the shape of a guitar.. so yea guitar hero for cool kids

edit: googled it and came up with this http://www.starrlabs.com/ztars
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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 8:37pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
still a pretty fuckin massive crowd goin nuts for em there. thats full on
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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 10:26pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead

 God they fucking make shit music, 200,000 people or not.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 12:58pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Why would Pendulum even bother with DnB anymore?

Especially when their current sound has them playing main stage at Glastonbury in front of 200,000 people!

Yeah, but out of those 200,000 people how many are waiting for the next act?

If I was there I'd be front and centre from word go just to be there for Blur, who are the last act to play...
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 1:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I can't believe this thread has nearly 500 replies.

Seriously, who gives a fuck?

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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 1:37pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I give a fuck!
Why do you keep checking it if you don't?
Think discussing the ups and downs of Pendulum is just as valid a convo as "stars I bumped into" for example.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 2:07pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I give a fuck!
Why do you keep checking it if you don't?
Think discussing the ups and downs of Pendulum is just as valid a convo as "stars I bumped into" for example.

I may be going out on a limb here but I believe the 'Star F@cker' thread might be slightly more entertaining than the latest Pendulum merry-go-round. And about as relevant to drum and bass music as well.

All you seem to be doing is slating them about the MIDI guitar Rob uses.

What point is this thread achieving? If there isn't one, close it down and let's all pick ourselves up and move on, mmmkay?

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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 2:30pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
That makes little sense to everyone but to you. I still think you are a Fluke troll, it has yet to be proven otherwise.

Yeah, who are you Melvin?

You're someone with questionable taste in movies AND music. Nah, you like 'The Saints', so...
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 2:39pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
suspicious imo

teef
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 2:45pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
That makes little sense to everyone but to you. I still think you are a Fluke troll, it has yet to be proven otherwise.

I thought a see saw was pretty obvious for both threads about as interesting as each other.  But I am starting to see why people explain every little aspect of their comments on here.

I can assure you I'm not a fluke troll and from what I hear the term troll was dam near invented for you!

Yeah, who are you Melvin?

You're someone with questionable taste in movies AND music. Nah, you like 'The Saints', so...

Definitely questionable taste in both music and movies but I don't apologise for that. I know what I like and what I don't(even though sometimes I like stuff that I know most folk aren't going to be down with)
What more is there to say? I'm a student(mature age) at Adelaide uni, Girlfriend, No kids and oh I like drum and bass(as well  as alot of other shit). I'm not fluke and I don't troll under any other name anywhere.
Any other details I can give you to help clear your image of me?
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 3:08pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I thought a see saw was pretty obvious for both threads about as interesting as each other.  But I am starting to see why people explain every little aspect of their comments on here.

I can assure you I'm not a fluke troll and from what I hear the term troll was dam near invented for you!

Oh yeah? Who has been spreading rumours? Where is the proof?

Quote
Definitely questionable taste in both music and movies but I don't apologise for that. I know what I like and what I don't(even though sometimes I like stuff that I know most folk aren't going to be down with)
What more is there to say? I'm a student(mature age) at Adelaide uni, Girlfriend, No kids and oh I like drum and bass(as well  as alot of other shit). I'm not fluke and I don't troll under any other name anywhere.
Any other details I can give you to help clear your image of me?

Are you Kurko?
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 3:13pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
No Rob(if that is your real name) I'm not Kurko in fact I don't think I've ever even met Kurko. Unless he used a fake name!

If I ever see you out anywhere I'll say hello (don't worry it'll just be hello).
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 3:15pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Melvin does not fit Kurko's personality at all. No one can conceal it for an extended period of time so consistently. Unless you are that double-agent British/Russian spy.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 3:21pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
No Rob(if that is your real name) I'm not Kurko in fact I don't think I've ever even met Kurko. Unless he used a fake name!

If I ever see you out anywhere I'll say hello (don't worry it'll just be hello).

Buy me a beer?

Melvin does not fit Kurko's personality at all. No one can conceal it for an extended period of time so consistently. Unless you are that double-agent British/Russian spy.

You never know who could be real and who could be trolling...

Anyway, back onto Pendulum.

Who is your favourite band member? I like the guy with the hat. Why doesn't he smile more?
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 3:25pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Buy me a beer?

You never know who could be real and who could be trolling...

Anyway, back onto Pendulum.

Who is your favourite band member? I like the guy with the hat. Why doesn't he smile more?

a ha ha ha ha
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 5:59pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I am Melvin, but he is not me   popn
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 6:46pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
I can vouch for Melvin, but is there anyone who can vouch for you Frost?
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 7:19pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Fuck, rob the alchemist, every thread you write in turns to shit.

Reading over this thread it is seriously no wonder that pendulum are trying as hard as possible to remove themselves from the dnb scene! Dead n boring. it's not them killing it, it's the so called supporters of the scene killing it themselves.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 7:26pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Rob killed DnB

teef
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 7:32pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Fuck, rob the alchemist, every thread you write in turns to shit.

Reading over this thread it is seriously no wonder that pendulum are trying as hard as possible to remove themselves from the dnb scene! Dead n boring. it's not them killing it, it's the so called supporters of the scene killing it themselves.

I don't understand why you say I kill threads when we are of pretty much the exact same opinion.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 8:44pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Guess I'm just out of the loop
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Posted: 1 Jul 2009, 3:39amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Why would Pendulum even bother with DnB anymore?

Especially when their current sound has them playing main stage at Glastonbury in front of 200,000 people![/youtube]

137,000 for the glasto. they really do love them over here but most of the fans are people who never really got in to dnb before.
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Posted: 1 Jul 2009, 8:51amSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Lol
But at least your warm! 
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Posted: 1 Jul 2009, 12:58pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
137,000 for the glasto. they really do love them over here but most of the fans are people who never really got in to dnb before.

official attendances aside, you cant fit the entire capacity of glasto to one stage.

there is no way on earth there would even be half that number on the main stage.
i think the most theyve ever had would be 50-60K?


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Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 12:33pmSubject: Re: Pendulum declare DNB is dead
Deadmau5 ft Rob Swire - 'Ghosts & Stuff' (Mau5trap)

Robs got on the vocals for ghosts n stuff

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