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Audio OpticonPosts: 321
Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:19pmSubject: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter: saw Gangstarr in melburn 2004 ish what a sad day for hip hop.
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:21pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Gifted Unlimited Rhymes Universal
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:26pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Very sad indeed :lighter:
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:26pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter:

http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2010/04/20/22177912.aspx

Legendary Gangstarr artist Guru has succumbed to cancer after a lengthy bout with the disease.

The artist, born Keith Elam, died on Monday April 19. He was 43 years old.

Solar, Guru's partner, expressed sadness over the loss.

"The world has lost one of the best MCs and Hip-Hop icons of all-time -- my loyal best friend, partner, and brother, Guru," Solar said in a statement. "Guru has been battling cancer for well over a year and has lost his battle! This is a matter that Guru wanted private until he could beat it, but tragically, this did not happen. The cancer took him. Now the world has lost a great man and a true genius.

Guru, a Boston native, rose to fame in the 80's as one half of Gangstarr, the iconic rap group with DJ Premier.

The group released six highly regarded albums in their tenure until 2003 when they broke up. After his successful run with Premier, Guru founded 7 Grand Records with producer Solar.

Solar went on to tend to the rapper as he fell ill, seemingly controlling the flow of information and access to Guru. Many of his family members complained that they were denied their right to see him.

Solar also said that Guru wrote a letter to fans and sent it out through a press agency.

"For the fans that reached out with love and support, I can't tell you how much that meant to Guru and myself. Guru prepared this letter (read below) while he was in the hospital for the fans," the producer continued. "I hope now that Guru has moved on to a better place."

In the letter, seen below, the rapper explains his illness, expresses gratitude to supporters and offers some parting words for DJ Premiere.

I, Guru, am writing this letter to my fans, friends and loved ones around the world. I have had a long battle with cancer and have succumbed to the disease. I have suffered with this illness for over a year. I have exhausted all medical options.

 I have a non-profit organization called Each One Counts dedicated to carrying on my charitable work on behalf of abused and disadvantaged children from around the world and also to educate and research a cure for this terrible disease that took my life. I write this with tears in my eyes, not of sorrow but of joy for what a wonderful life I have enjoyed and how many great people I have had the pleasure of meeting.

My loyal best friend, partner and brother, Solar, has been at my side through it all and has been made my health proxy by myself on all matters relating to myself. He has been with me by my side on my many hospital stays, operations, doctors visits and stayed with me at my home and cared for me when I could not care for myself. Solar and his family is my family and I love them dearly and I expect my family, friends, and fans to respect that, regardless to anybody's feelings on the matter. It is my wish that counts. This being said I am survived by the love of my life, my sun KC, who I trust will be looked after by Solar and his family as their own. Any awards or tributes should be accepted, organized approved by Solar on behalf myself and my son until he is of age to except on his own.

I do not wish my ex-DJ to have anything to do with my name likeness, events tributes etc. connected in anyway to my situation including any use of my name or circumstance for any reason and I have instructed my lawyers to enforce this. I had nothing to do with him in life for over 7 years and want nothing to do with him in death. Solar has my life story and is well informed on my family situation, as well as the real reason for separating from my ex-DJ. As the sole founder of GangStarr, I am very proud of what GangStarr has meant to the music world and fans. I equally am proud of my Jazzmatazz series and as the father of Hip-Hop/Jazz. I am most proud of my leadership and pioneering efforts on Jazzmatazz 4 for reinvigorating the Hip-Hop/Jazz genre in a time when music quality has reached an all time low. Solar and I have toured in places that I have never been before with GangStarr or Jazzmatatazz and we gained a reputation for being the best on the planet at Hip-Hop/Jazz, as well as the biggest and most influential Hip-Hop/Jazz record with Jazzmatazz 4 of the decade to now. The work I have done with Solar represents a legacy far beyond its time. And we as a team were not afraid to push the envelope. To me this is what true artists do! As men of honor we stood tall in the face of small mindedness, greed, and ignorance. As we fought for music and integrity at the cost of not earning millions and for this I will always be happy and proud, and would like to thank the million fans who have seen us perform over the years from all over the world. The work I have done with Solar represents a legacy far beyond its time and is my most creative and experimental to date. I hope that our music will receive the attention it deserves as it is some of the best work I have done and represents some of the best years of my life.

AllHipHop.com sends its deepest condolences to the family and friends of Keith Elam.
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:28pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
this fkn blows. Dude was a legend and help pen some of my all time fave albums

That letter though, I'm not fkn buying it just yet. Sounds like Solar fkn wrote it
headachePosts: 7,887
Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 6:40pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
What the fuck? This whole thing just has not seemed right from the beginning. Agree with Q. Would bet money that Solar wrote the letter.

R.I.P to a legend :lighter:

Again with the people who are good at hip hop dying. :(
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 7:02pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
[video: www.youtube.com]

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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 7:37pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter:

Lost one of the greats. So happy I got to see Gangstarr at Heaven one night.


As for the letter and Solar who knows - it pains me to think that he would have gone out like that after all he and Preem did.
JayarPosts: 3,532
Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 7:49pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
:lighter: :lighter: :lighter: :lighter:

Lost one of the greats. So happy I got to see Gangstarr at Heaven one night.


As for the letter and Solar who knows - it pains me to think that he would have gone out like that after all he and Preem did.

when was that gig? surely it was later than 2003?

letter sounds a bit rank... though eric b & rakim supposedly hate each other now and EPMD had bullshit with dudes breaking down doors on their mothers houses or someshit a long time ago.

will have to listen to 'step in the arena' tonight - was one of my year 12 music highlights...
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 7:51pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
sad day.
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is, i get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis :slayer:
Gangstarr at heaven back in 03 or somthing is still the best hip hop show ive been to.
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 9:05pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
RIP.  Loved Jazamatazz 1  and all the rest of the classics.

what a shitty letter though
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 9:47pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
btw, what does 'partner' mean in this context? Was he gay?

and i assume Solar is not the same as Solaar?
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 9:49pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter:
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 10:04pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
RIP the Gifted One.  :lighter:

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Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 11:48pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
btw, what does 'partner' mean in this context? Was he gay?

and i assume Solar is not the same as Solaar?

I was thinking the same thing. (Also, according to Wikipedia, the French MC Solaar is a different person).

Regardless of his sexual orientation, the man could rock it! Too bad I never saw him but I did see Premier recently and it's obvious whatever they're private relationship was, professionally he still respected him and what they did together a great deal; going on things he said at that show.

A true legend, RIP! :fire:
khemPosts: 16,657
Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 6:53amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
solar is the guy who replaced primo as guru's producer. calls himself superproducer solar, but i dont think anyone on here could name a single beat by him.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 8:13amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 The consensus on Twitter is that Solar wrote the letter but who knows.

 It sucks whichever way tbh.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 8:35amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
WTF! That is so sad, i was only just listening to some good old jazzmatazz the other day. Man is legend in my eyes, so many years of so much good music! Sad, sad day.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 10:24amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
[video: www.youtube.com]

Rest In Peace Guru.

And I'm totally with the others - that letter reeks of filthy Solar and his bullshit, not believing that for a fuckin second.
headachePosts: 7,887
Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 10:26amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
[video: www.youtube.com]

Going back and listening to all these tracks again is making me sad. Fuck he was dope. :(
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 10:31amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
wow thats crazy. i wouldn't be surprised if we hear about this solar guy getting shot!
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 10:35amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
wow thats crazy. i wouldn't be surprised if we hear about this solar guy getting shot!

Here's hoping.

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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 11:32amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

Going back and listening to all these tracks again is making me sad. Fuck he was dope. :(

Yeah man, had a Gangstarr mix last night. Half an hour in and couldn't finish the mix.
lost for words at the moment. Grew up on Gangstarr and have held the duo at the top of my Hip Hop all time greats.
Big L and Guru would be cyphering hard over some shit in Hip Hop heaven right now  :)
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 11:38amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter: :lighter: :lighter:

RIP Guru, Gangstarr is my fav rap group/artist alongside Nas

an fuck thats some crazy shit aye.........jealous mother fuckers always wana act ill
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 4:08pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter:
watching the after shocks of this ordeal and the testimonials from his nephew and premo, i will take special note of the fame-bugs that try to ca$h in on HIS legacy, learn from it people :wave:

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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 5:08pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Can somebody post part 2 of the nephew thing? I cant get to youtbe at work.

 Cheers!
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 5:51pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
how much does he sound like guru? crazy story.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 9:00pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Regardless of his sexual orientation, the man could rock it!

of course, but i was surprised if it was the case given how rampant homophobia is in the black community


again, damn! gangstarr was the shit to me when i was about 18 - step in the arena is one of my all time fave hip hop LPs and still crazy dig daily operation and hard to earn... :(
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Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 10:05pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 The situation is fucked. Really wanna hear Primo speak up. We will probably never know the truth.

 Such a shame that this is going to smear Guru's legacy.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 8:08amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Primo is a class act. Staying out of it. Very well done.

 Gangstarr are the bomb.
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
khemPosts: 16,657
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 8:22amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
btw, what does 'partner' mean in this context? Was he gay?


if you check the video's from the nephew, solar has a wife, so the term partner would be in relation to guru being solar's business/music partner.
delPosts: 3,160
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 8:44amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Going back and listening to all these tracks again is making me sad. Fuck he was dope. :(

Yea :(

Such a shame that this is going to smear Guru's legacy.

Was thinking the same thing when I first read that 'letter'. What I can't understand is how Solar was allowed to list himself as Guru's brother and the hospital back it up? Maybe he held a power of attorney. If Guru woke up long enough to write a letter too, then surely he would have asked the to see his family and regardless of whether Solar would let them, surely Guru could have asked the hospital staff. That letter and Solar's behaviour are very very suspicious..


Primo is a class act. Staying out of it. Very well done.

 Gangstarr are the bomb.

Yea, champion. Saddens me even more to see him say they were going to do another album.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 8:52amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Double post but this from Guru's sister on Premier's blog:
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GURU suffered from multiple myeloma for over a year.  Accrued complications from this illness led to respiratory failure and cardiac arrest.  As a result, GURU was in a coma from mid February until his death and never regained consciousness.  Early on the morning of April 19th, he became hypertensive due to low blood pressure. He again went into cardiac arrest and slipped away from us.

So how did he wake up and write a letter?

edit: It's from a fansite of Premier's..
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 9:14amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 I don't think we will ever know the truth. Maybe things were that bad between Guru and his family and Primo?

 Just because we don't want to believe that he hated them doesn't make it true.

 

When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 9:34amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
I really hope he tells Solar and his lawyers to fuck off and does a tribute for him. He's the only one who has any business doing so IMO.

[video: www.youtube.com]

:slayer::lighter:
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 9:54amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
you cant really stop primo from playing the music he created.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 10:11amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Gangstarr were the ONE group I just knew would never end up like this too.

 It sucks.

 

 
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 11:14amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
http://livefromheadqcourterz.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/official-statement-from-dj-premier-on-the-death-of-keith-elam-guru/

That's a fuckin beautiful statement, Preem has a way with words...And by the way just how can that dude call himself Solar the Superproducer when I doubt anyone could name one of his beats? Cunt is an all out fraud, just trying to smear Primos name...This dude is the definition of a wack ass motherfucker.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 12:13pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Public Letter From Guru’s Sister Patricia

    The Elam family wishes to thank the fans of our son/brother/father uncle/nephew/cousin Keith aka GURU for the outpouring of love, concern and support.
    Our hearts are broken by the loss of someone we loved so much. GURU was devoted to his young son, who will most keenly feel his absence.

    GURU suffered from multiple myeloma for over a year.  Accrued complications from this illness led to respiratory failure and cardiac arrest.  As a result, GURU was in a coma from mid February until his death and never regained consciousness.  Early on the morning of April 19th, he became hypertensive due to low blood pressure. He again went into cardiac arrest and slipped away from us.

    GURU died far too young but he was, and we are, proud of all his many legendary musical contributions.

    The family is not aware of any foundations established by GURU.  We know and understand that countless fans want to express their condolences and love and, to that end, we are planning a memorial event in the near future that will be all-inclusive. Please look for further details from the family as they become available.

    from The Elam Family


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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 1:35pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
"Gangstarr, one of the best yet"



THE best, imo

 :lighter:

Yeah. As much as I love Big L, hip hop doesn't get any more hip hop than Guru killing a Premo beat.

Classy statement from Preemo and dig the subtle shot at Solar

He has every right to lash out right now, but has chosen to be the bigger man. Big respect for that.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 1:55pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 So true.

 Gangstarr is as hip hop as it gets :lighter:
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:34amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
There's video with it too at the link, but don't think I could bring myself to listen to him.

Solar Speaks To MTV's Sway, Clarifies Rumors On Guru's Death

Sway Calloway spoke to Guru's musical partner and business manager Solar this week. In the wake of Monday's tragic announcement of Guru's death, Solar has been scrutinized by Hip Hop fans for both his relationship with Guru's blood relatives, as well as suspicions that he wrote a damaging letter, making allegations of a Guru-led foundation that family members were unaware of.

Sway boldly asked Solar about a potential homosexual relationship between the artists, that Sway referred to as "romantic in nature." Solar quickly waved doing those rumors, in saying, "Yeah, that's untrue. Completely unfounded and true. Guru's a family man. I'm a family man. And it's always been that way." Independent of his and Guru's relationship, Solar also asserted both artists heterosexuality. "We're straight men. Down the line." The New York producer who had worked with Guru since 2004 continued, "He dealt with women and family. I dealt with women and family. It's the way it is, it's the way it's always been, and there's never been any blurring of the lines whatsoever."

As the interview continued, Sway asked about rumors of physical abuse, specifically Solar being physically harmful to Guru. With a gasp, the producer replied, "Wow. Me and Guru, we used to play-fight. Rough-house. Not only with him, but other members of the band when you're on the road. You knock around, and that's it. I can't even begin to imagine where that would come from. It's idiotic. Again, these are all kinds of accusations [made] without Guru to be here and look you in the eye and say, 'This is just ridiculous.' Now it's just me saying this is ridiculous." Earlier this week, a member of that band, the duo's deejay, Doo Wop, who had worked with Guru for almost 10 years previously, spoke of an altercation while on tour, although the other party was not specified.

Additionally, Sway asked Solar about Each One Counts. In Guru's alleged final letter, the children's charity organization was mentioned, despite the Elam Family being unaware that such a foundation even existed. "That's an organization that was started by Guru, myself and my people. Hopefully, it'll grow to be a huge, worldwide charitable organization," defended Solar. "There's a lot of things Guru's done in his life with his business that [the Elam Family] doesn't know about. He doesn't report to them. He never did report to them. Guru's a full-grown man." Further speaking of family relations, Solar said that it would be the family's responsibility to provide Guru with a proper funeral. "I'm done with that. That's on...that's between...that's on them." The production and business partner of the last six years added that after this past week's emotional duress, he was unsure if he'll attend the funeral.

Moments later, in a detailed conversation about the Elam Family, Solar stated, "I've got the utmost respect for his family." The producer spoke of meeting
Guru's father, and commented that Guru's only mentions of his sister were that they were not close, and presently estranged in his final days.

Sway also confronted Solar about Guru's dying letter. Many have questioned how much of the peculiar statements were authored by the Gang Starr founder. "Guru wrote some of it himself. Some of it he was able to write," said Solar, referring to Guru's declining physical abilities. The parts that Guru did not pen
himself, Solar said were tracked by him. "I made a lot of notes that was kept on my own."




So he's happy to be around Guru when he has control over him, but as soon as he passes he's not even going to rock up to the funeral?!
delPosts: 3,160
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:44amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Ok, I had to watch the video and the first thing I notice is that he wears his glasses the whole time - if you're speaking over a controversy and something so contentious, let us see your eyes.


Anyway, should ignore the bullshit and focus on the man...

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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 11:04amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
he's not even going to rock up to the funeral?!

fair call, he is intensely unpopular right now and would probably get shot at the funeral tbh

:E
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 11:33amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
this is getting beyond ridiculous, well it has for a while. All the talk of Guru and his life from those who are close to him to the Hip Hop media to even humble threads as our own are focused on the Solargate/was he down with Premogate bullshit. It seems from reports that Solar has brought it on himself, and has succeeded in taking away what should be a celebration of Guru's life to "Look at me, look at me" syndrome.

Heavily biased I know, but it looks (from what I have read) that Premo is the only person in New York that has something real to say.

Guru was an MC. A founding father of one of the best crews (repping all 4 elements) in New York and later a pinnacle part of what would become one of if not the best Hip Hop DJ/MC acts of all time, the one and only Gang Starr. Jazz Hop was his passion, and he will never be forgotten as "one of the best yet". I hope history will not remember the fiasco that has stained the man's legacy at present.

Just had to get that off my chest.....
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:lol: prolly be better as "who the fuck is Solar".

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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 11:35amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
need me a T Shirt

"Fuck Solar"

though the hippies would hate

:lol: Get all kinds of dirty looks from environmentalists...

this is getting beyond ridiculous, well it has for a while. All the talk of Guru and his life from those who are close to him to the Hip Hop media to even humble threads as our own are focused on the Solargate/was he down with Premogate bullshit. It seems from reports that Solar has brought it on himself, and has succeeded in taking away what should be a celebration of Guru's life to "Look at me, look at me" syndrome.

Heavily biased I know, but it looks (from what I have read) that Premo is the only person in New York that has something real to say.

Guru was an MC. A founding father of one of the best crews (repping all 4 elements) in New York and later a pinnacle part of what would become one of if not the best Hip Hop DJ/MC acts of all time, the one and only Gang Starr. Jazz Hop was his passion, and he will never be forgotten as "one of the best yet". I hope history will not remember the fiasco that has stained the man's legacy at present.

Just had to get that off my chest.....
Pz

Well said man, you're spot on  :)
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 11:40amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
need me a T Shirt

"Fuck Solar"

though the hippies would hate

 :lol:

Sway is the man, how he kept cool while doing that interview is beyond me... should've punched him in the face every time he said gurus name..... FUCK SOLAR!

sway 'these are gurus exact words' referring to this letter
Solar 'uhh yeah to the most part yeah'


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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 12:09pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

Solar 'uhh yeah to the most part yeah'


Yo Solar, Don't Want Your Clown Knowledge

Bring on more Guru clips peoples!!!
[video: www.youtube.com]
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 12:34pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
[video: www.youtube.com]

Wondering if this shit is gonna stop prem from touring out here on the next tour? I hope not.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 12:46pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

Wondering if this shit is gonna stop prem from touring out here on the next tour? I hope not.

if anything it would urge him on, no?

And from a promoters point of view (not trying to be cold hearted, just cold factual) the tour now has the best promotion of any Hip Hop show worldwide.

Personally I can't wait to see a Guru tribute in Premo's set!!!
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 1:03pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Yea was thinking the same thing in relation to the tour.

Will be good to see Preem and the whole of HQ paying their respects at Rap City.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 1:06pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Apparently no funeral and Guru was cremated today.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 1:17pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Tony touch tribute on his radio show TOCA Tuesdays

Tony Touch dedicated last night’s show on Shade 45 to the late Guru. During the four hours on air, here’s what went down.

Part One: Scarface calls in and discusses the making of “Betrayal” | Part Two: Guru’s lawyer, Owen Lamb speaks| Part Three: Greg Nice reminceses | Part Four: Listener phone calls | Part Five: Phone call from DJ Doo Wop | Part Six: Bun B speaks his piece | Part 7: More listener calls

http://rapradar.com/2010/04/21/guru-tribute-on-toca-tuesdays/
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 9:25pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Tony touch tribute on his radio show TOCA Tuesdays

Tony Touch dedicated last night’s show on Shade 45 to the late Guru. During the four hours on air, here’s what went down.

Part One: Scarface calls in and discusses the making of “Betrayal”

way under rated track that one. In fact, Face himself is under rated. He kills that track
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:13pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Take It Personal is def one of my faves :slayer:
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Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 7:40amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Raekwon on Guru's death

[video: www.youtube.com]

Lina-It's Alright (Gangstarr Remix - this is nice if ya havent heard it)

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lol going through Guru shit on you tube and Lovesick comes on Rage. Sweet

Group Home feat Guru - The Legacy
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Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 12:55pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Memorial wall in Slovakia

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Guru on the right. So 70s... :lighter:
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 8:09amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1535/title.tasha-denham-just-to-get-a-rep

 Interview with Solar's baby mother and ex P.A.

 This shit is weak!
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 8:56amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
man that shit is way messed up. Solar sounds like a complete pyschopath

dude would need to be in hiding now that this shit is out
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 9:09amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
[video: www.youtube.com]

Hopefully someone (bumpy, shug) takes this shit literally.

"Cut a snakes head off and then we break bread."
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 9:18amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
DJ Premier Speaks on Last Meeting with Guru
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:36 AM |

(AllHipHop News) With controversy still surrounding the death and post-mortem wishes of the recently deceased Guru (Keith Elam), DJ Premier had revealed details on his final hospital meeting with his estranged Gang Starr collaborator.

In a discussion on his Sirius Hip-Hop Nation radio show, Premier stated that he visited a comatose Guru in the hospital, despite reports that Guru confidant Solar has a strict visitation list in place that did not include Premier and certain family members.

The visit, according to Premier, was the first meeting between the famed duo since 2003, when they split for still undisclosed reasons following their sixth studio album, The Ownerz.

“When I saw Guru it really f**ked me up. I wore a Gang Starr shirt first of all; just for the energy and so he knew that that’s forever with us,” Premier said. “And that includes everyone that came before me; I know every one of them…It was so ill [because] of what I was hearing of him waking up, writing, and Tweeting and all that stuff. There was no way. He looked so gone.”

Although hospitals normally handle grooming requirements such as nails, Premier described an unfortunate scene of Guru looking disheveled and unkempt, causing the acclaimed producer’s anger to rise at Solar over his claims that he took care of Guru in his final days.

“If you love him, and you’re taking care of him, why the f**k did his nails look longer than a f***ing ruler?!” Premier accused. “[And] a clump Afro?! I’ve taken care of people in the hospital [before]. You can wash their hair and clean their nails off. His feet were swollen and his toenails were really disgusting…I took the logo on my shirt and rubbed it against his whole body and told him a message from me about how much I loved him, and that we were for live and still were for life. Then I kissed him on his face and let him know that I was going to miss him because it seemed like he was already gone.”

After Guru’s passing on April 19 from multiple myeloma, Solar released a statement allegedly written by the deceased deriding Premier and requesting that he not be involved in any tributes or memorial events.

The veracity of the letter was immediately challenged by Guru’s old friends, such as Big Shug and Bumpy Knuckles (Freddie Foxxx), and the late rapper’s nephew Justin Nicholas Elam Ruff, who started much of the controversy in several YouTube blogs accusing Solar of keeping Guru and the seriousness of his medical condition away from family members.

“The family is strong,” Ruff told Premier after calling into the show. “We’re all there supporting each other. And with all the love from the fans reaching out from across the world, we’re going to get through this. The #1 thing is that it’s our job to keep his legacy alive.”

At press time, no information has been released regarding Guru’s funeral arrangements.
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Posted: 11 May 2010, 1:51pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Yeah... like the information on a site called "fuck solar" is going to be the most accurate and unbiased source of news.  :smashed:

I mean, sure, my site www.fuckmacro.com is an honest and accurate portrayal, but that's because I want to fuck Macro... :E

 :lol: quality.

The thing with the fucksolar website is its not them really reporting its them feeding what they can find from elsewhere.
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Posted: 21 May 2010, 10:57amSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Saw this today...Dj 33 1/3 Tribute to Guru (Video Mix)

Quote
This is just like a mixtape but instead of scratching with records, 33 1/3 scratches the video. It's a good selection of vid's and a good tribute.

"I did this a couple of weeks ago and was just going to sit on it...but
It's now been a full month since Guru passed and I still have a hard time
believing he's not here. I am a big fan of Guru/Gangstarr, so this is how
I paid my respects. The mix is just under 50 minutes long, enjoy."
-DJ 33 1/3

Streaming: http://vimeo.com/11862731

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Posted: 19 Apr 2011, 12:03pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
 :lighter: RIP 1 year today
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Posted: 19 Apr 2011, 12:05pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
been a year already

damn that went quick

 :lighter:
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 12:13pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Quote
"I'll make you famous, turn around and make you nameless, see you'll never understand how vital to me this rap game is"
  :lighter:
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 12:26pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 Sucks. Guru was great.

 Haven't really been following the Solaar stuff, how did it all end up? Anyone give me a summary
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 12:56pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
he's a current running joke in a lot of verses these days lol


"you niggaz is weak, Solaar's letter" Joel Ortiz

Singapore Kane and Big Shug are also pretty keen for a bit of a catch up with him too
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 1:10pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
Big Shug is somebody I wouldn't like to have catching up with me... :crazy:
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 1:21pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.

 He has been known to instill fear
When I die. I want to be frozen. And if they have to freeze me in pieces, so be it. I will wake up stronger than ever, because I will have used that time, to figure out exactly why I died. And what moves I could have used to defend myself better now that I know what hold he had me in.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 3:07pmSubject: Re: R.I.P Guru.
:lol:
more kicks than Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi