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Server Move

Started by oli · 22 Nov 2009 · 52 posts survive · see it on the Wayback Machine

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oliI am the
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Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 5:06amSubject: Server Move
I am going to be moving this site to one of my other servers in the next month. My business is taking on a lot of new webhosting clients (who pay) and now that I am getting fairly close to the maximum bandwidth capacity I pay for (100GB a month) I need to move this to another server where the data allowances are cheaper.








:nerd: For the nerds that might be interested, this site is doing just under 20GB of outgoing traffic per month... Yep, that's nearly 20% of what's allocated, and it's the single busiest site on my server which in total is hosting well over 200 domains. :nerd:
thresh0ldWUTIWUF
Posts: 1,637
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 10:58amSubject: Re: Server Move
what are the other sites on your server that AM is beating?

youtube?  :E

google?  :E

yahoo  :E
oliI am the
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Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 11:14amSubject: Re: Server Move
All of the above. ;)
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 6:38pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I hope you're all going out tonight/soon because I'm going to move the site. ;)
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 6:38pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I hope you're all going out tonight/soon because I'm going to move the site. ;)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 :facepalm:
Get off my lawn.
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 6:42pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Staying at home are you?
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 7:12pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I'll try and make it as quick and painless as possible.

Just for you.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 7:39pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I'll try and make it as quick and painless as possible.

Just for you.

You're a real sweety  :bow:

I'm sure i'll survive though *hugs PS3*
Get off my lawn.
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 8:22pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I'm sure I can cope but I'm worried about the sanity of our newest post whore Threshold.

Not sure he can survive any AM downtime at this point of his life.
Testing the limits of the human heart since 1973.
thresh0ldWUTIWUF
Posts: 1,637
Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:13pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I'm worried about the sanity of our newest post whore Threshold

I dont really know what to do... does anyone have any tips... I am relatively drunk and already have beaten up a dog, so I do not know what to beat up now.
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:31pmSubject: Re: Server Move
done!
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:34pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Post here if something is broken

You'll have to re-login...
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:38pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Tell me if you think it's faster or slower as well...
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:39pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Seems to be about the same for me?

I can't notice it anyway
Get off my lawn.
thresh0ldWUTIWUF
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:40pmSubject: Re: Server Move
way worsesererersererasesersrer :E
oliI am the
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 10:41pmSubject: Re: Server Move
If it's worse then it's proof that Sydney is superior to Melbourne.

This is hosted in Melbourne now and not Sydney...
Fluke.~Daft Punk~.
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Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 11:40pmSubject: Re: Server Move
it feels like i am on dial up  :(

and i view lo-fi
Straight Edge since 1994.

Dyslexics are teople poo.
thresh0ldWUTIWUF
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 12:46amSubject: Re: Server Move
why is it dnbisdead not www?
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 6:45amSubject: Re: Server Move
Seems to be about the same for me?

I can't notice it anyway

Seems about the same for me as well.
Testing the limits of the human heart since 1973.
Fluke.~Daft Punk~.
Posts: 7,841
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 10:23amSubject: Re: Server Move
yeah it's all good now  :)
Straight Edge since 1994.

Dyslexics are teople poo.
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:12pmSubject: Re: Server Move
It was asking me to log in everytime I clicked show replies earlier all good now though. speed about same maybe little quicker.

"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:16pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I'm getting this error when choosing Reply with Quote from the recent posts section, only seems to be occuring on pg1 of the list aswell

"Unable to verify referring url. Please go back and try again. "

The URL listed after clicking the link is

http://dnbisdead.adelaidemassive.com/index.php?action=post;topic=2083.314;quote=208646;sesc=1b2f5423a257656d3cd640760c5db7ee

Ok so I think I know the problem, my bookmark takes me to www.adelaidemassive.com/whatever but when i click reply it takes me to dnbisdead.adelaidemassive.com

I assume this will fix itself up once the DNS has propagated
Get off my lawn.
oliI am the
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:18pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Yes you assumed right. I will switch it today, so you'll have to login again probably but then the move will be complete.

I just setup the temporary host name so that people could get their AM fix, since if I'd just left the whole site down till the DNS had started to resolve properly there may have been a spate of stabbings in Adelaide.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:19pmSubject: Re: Server Move
OMG!

Login again?!

That's it, I'm finding a new forum
Get off my lawn.
oliI am the
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:20pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Well we can keep dnbisdead if you really want. :E
NoddyPosts: 9,559
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:26pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Well we can keep dnbisdead if you really want. :E

Better change it.

I think a few people on here still believe it has a future so we don't want to spoil their dreams just yet.
Testing the limits of the human heart since 1973.
oliI am the
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:32pmSubject: Re: Server Move
dnbmighthaveafuture.adelaidemassive.com
thresh0ldWUTIWUF
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 2:38pmSubject: Re: Server Move
dnbmighthaveafuture.adelaidemassive.com

twistedindividualrocks.adelaidemassive.com
oliI am the
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Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 6:17pmSubject: Re: Server Move
OK switched back to www now. You might need to login again... Last time, I promise. :)
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 6:22pmSubject: Re: Server Move
OK switched back to www now. You might need to login again... Last time, I promise. :)

Nup no need for me to login and links all working again ;)
Get off my lawn.
GlockPosts: 9,845
Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 7:18pmSubject: Re: Server Move
OK switched back to www now. You might need to login again... Last time, I promise. :)

Lol I was just coming in here to ask if there was anything wrong with the server because I kept getting logged out today.
oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 8:34pmSubject: Re: Server Move
From left to right, Nov date, incoming traffic, outgoing traffic (in MB).

Spot when AM gets moved...

image not archived: am_bandwidth.jpg

That's a lot of bandwidth used to serve up shitty threads!  :facepalm:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 8:38pmSubject: Re: Server Move
what makes up incoming or outgoing content on a forum?
"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 8:43pmSubject: Re: Server Move
The server is hosting email as well, so incoming is made up of two things:
1. people's emails going to the server
2. web page requests (and for a forum when you post a message that message is sent to the server, but that's only a bit of text)

Outgoing is made up of:
1. website traffic

Customers use their own ISPs mail server for outgoing mail, so my stuff isn't involved there.

The reason it's so unbalanced is because for a web server the typical behaviour goes like this:
Your browser says: give me the AM site. That is literally a one line request.
The server says: OK, here's the content (posts) on the AM page, all the images hosted on the page, all the stylesheet information and so on... That is far more content than the other way around.

If I was not hosting email it'd probably be closer to a 1:10 ratio of incoming vs outgoing.
John LPosts: 3,007
Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 8:46pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Sooooo what happened on the 25th for it to almost double?
Get off my lawn.
oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 8:53pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Sooooo what happened on the 25th for it to almost double?

Don't know, some other site must have had a burst of traffic. I am actually just waiting on someone to write me a program to analyse all my server log files and generate a report which will help determine which exact sites are causing those types of spikes.

This site has always been pretty steady with no real spikes, just goes up and down in waves. E.g. most traffic is during business hours when people are slacking off at work and posting crap here.
bettermanon a plain
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 9:32pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Ive noticed no change apart from the relogin issue

on a related but uninteresting note - AdelaideClubber also goes through around 20gb per month. Most traffic occurs at nights early in the week, then slowly drops to its lowest on weekends.




oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 9:36pmSubject: Re: Server Move
That site has images and other stuff online though. It's easy to generate that much traffic once you start loading anything other than text content onto a site. I've had single sites that have done 80GB+ in 2 weeks after big sports events (selling photos online).

Considering this site is basically text + the banners at the top, ~5GB a week is a lot.

Ages ago when I had a dedicated server in the US and I hosted the AM Audio stuff there was one month where some crazy dude called khem put a mix up from some well known DJ. That mix got linked to from a ton of other forums and did over 600GB of transfers on TWO files alone in the space of a month.

Good thing bandwidth in the US is so cheap otherwise khem would not be moving into his new house right about now. :E
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 9:57pmSubject: Re: Server Move
good advertising though!
"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 10:00pmSubject: Re: Server Move
It is?

How? :lol:
Melvin SmileyPosts: 4,703
Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 10:03pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I have absolutely no idea how these things work. I just figured if 600g got downloaded then surely a shit load of people had to go to the adelaide massive site.  I'm guessing no
"dont believe everything I say, I dont"
oliI am the
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Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 10:08pmSubject: Re: Server Move
Nah, anyone who has the link can download it. Just like if I put a link here to a file on another server you can download it without visiting that site.

That said some sites do put restrictions in place to prevent that, but usually only with images and not any other content. That's why you've probably seen some people's avatars don't work and it says "bandwidth limit exceeded" or "hotlinking not allowed" or whatever.
khemPosts: 16,653
Posted: 1 Dec 2009, 11:24amSubject: Re: Server Move
Ages ago when I had a dedicated server in the US and I hosted the AM Audio stuff there was one month where some crazy dude called khem put a mix up from some well known DJ. That mix got linked to from a ton of other forums and did over 600GB of transfers on TWO files alone in the space of a month.

Good thing bandwidth in the US is so cheap otherwise khem would not be moving into his new house right about now. :E

:lol:

can you remember which mixes?
oliI am the
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Posted: 1 Dec 2009, 11:31amSubject: Re: Server Move
am_audio_vip_djstorm_bassbubbles1.mp3
am_audio_vip_kenny_ken_fearless_aust_day_eve_2000.mp3
am_audio_vip_djstorm_bassbubbles2.mp3
am_audio_vip_grooverider_ultraworld3.mp3

Those 4 generated a huge amount of traffic in 2 months.
khemPosts: 16,653
Posted: 1 Dec 2009, 2:51pmSubject: Re: Server Move
ahh cool...

:music:
Counterpartthe other half
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Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 1:42pmSubject: Re: Server Move
I dont really know what to do... does anyone have any tips... I am relatively drunk and already have beaten up a dog, so I do not know what to beat up now.

LMFAO!! funny fucker.

no problems at my end. site seems to be same speed as usual