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The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 9:36amSubject: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OK, i fly the pc flag at the moment but its been on the back of my mind for a while, i forsee ill have one eventually...

Thinking of getting a macbook pro, quick question though, can i upgrade the parts myself? Or would i need to get it done by them at the exorborent prices they charge ($900 to add 2GB RAM, blah).  Im assuming it would void a warranty if i did it myself
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 9:57amSubject: Re: Apple thread
$900 to put a stick of RAM in !!?!

that must include some liquid nitrogen cooled DDR9 or some shit!
that can't just be for the labor

if installing your own ram voids the warranty then that is absolutely obscene and you should boycott that company

if not do it yourself, it's a simple task
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 10:13amSubject: Re: Apple thread
yeah its not the physical install (done that before), its more if a specific RAM stick is required and available.  Yes $900 is ridiculous (highway robbery even), they also charge $300 to upgrade the 5400rpm 120GB h/drive to a 7200rpm 160GB one.  If i got one id probably look at reducing costs by doing both myself. 
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 10:18amSubject: Re: Apple thread
Thats fucked

they charge a fortune because the :ghey: mac market are quite happy to be bent over a barrel and reamed thoroughly



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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 12:17pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
resist the temptation my friend
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 12:18pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Dont listen to these fools still trying to convince themselves PC's are worth it.

THEY'RE WRONG!
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 12:51pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
once you get one you will realise after a few months why its worth it.

ive had one for a few years now and recently i thought, hey, ive had no blue screens, minimal crashes(none related to music stuff on the lappy), no driver updates etc etc blah blah.. and everything i need is on mac now or i can run windows if i desperately need to.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 1:31pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
hahahahaha dunno where you are getting the ram prices.... you can add the ram yourself in a lappy, it's underneath the battery and it doesn't effect your warranty.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 1:40pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
i got 1gig extra ram put in and i sware i didn't pay more than 200, not even close i don't think. where's our mac rep when ya need him...

edit - in fact i have no idea, it might have been close to $300

what sort of ram were you looking at? http://store.apple.com/133-622/WebObjects/australiastore.woa/wa/RSLID?find=ram
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 1:42pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Also have to mention just how nice this looks sitting on your desk!

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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 1:47pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Im looking at getting a mac, not mac bashing (you guys are so defensive  :lol:).  The cheaper the better, i can easily stomach ~$200 for an upgrade, glad doesnt void any warranty too
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 4:23pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
once you get one you will realise after a few months why its worth it.

ive had one for a few years now and recently i thought, hey, ive had no blue screens, minimal crashes(none related to music stuff on the lappy), no driver updates etc etc blah blah..

I bag windows as much as the next guy, but I've just realised that I've had no crashes, blue screens etc for years with XP. It's on virtually all the time too. Sweet. I'll still get a mac next tho methinks.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 4:29pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I love my Mac, i was hesitant at first, nobody likes change when you are happy with what you have, but once you go mac you never go back  :lol:

Not that i had to pay for mine, its included in my package at work.  :E
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Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 10:55pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Regarding the parts though, obviously the most expensive are Apple branded bits. Can you get cheaper (but still quality eg. Corsair) parts for Macs from other component makers? Or are you just stuck with Mac branded stuff and are forced to pay whatever they want you to pay?

For instance I have a Lenovo laptop and instead of paying an outrageous $300 for 2x1GB Lenovo simms, I bought compatible Corsair Value Select ram that cost a mere $150. That's what i love about PC's, the fact you can use any part as long as it's the right specification.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Mac people because that's majorly crap if Apple control the market and don't allow 3rd party component manufacturers to sell generic parts.

If you can afford it though, await thy reamage but most of us like a better deal I'm sure!
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 6:18amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
depends on the part you wanna update
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 9:22amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
You can buy compatible RAM from many places aside from Apple, for a lot less... You don't void your warranty using these parts or installing them yourself. This goes for hard drives and memory in particular, which are the parts most people are going to replace in portable or desktop machines.

Apple doesn't disallow third parties to sell components for their hardware.

I don't understand why each time this discussion comes up people seem to claim that Apple is the only company selling overpriced components/upgrades for their own hardware. Dell, IBM, Lenovo, HP and basically every big hardware supplier does exactly the same thing and their prices are just as outrageous as Apple's are... I think they're just jealous cause they haven't seen the light yet... ;)
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 10:04amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I don't understand why each time this discussion comes up people seem to claim that Apple is the only company selling overpriced components/upgrades for their own hardware. Dell, IBM, Lenovo, HP and basically every big hardware supplier does exactly the same thing and their prices are just as outrageous as Apple's are... I think they're just jealous cause they haven't seen the light yet... ;)

pffffffft

What kind of a chop buys Dell, IBM, Lenovo or hp PCs or components anyway?
(Unless you bought direct and got a mega bulk corporate deal)
Their systems are shite and over expensive.

Apple are not the only one but they have far more market monopoly in their particular :ghey: market.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 10:13amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
pffffffft

What kind of a chop buys Dell, IBM, Lenovo or hp PCs or components anyway?
(Unless you bought direct and got a mega bulk corporate deal)
Their systems are shite and over expensive.

So you could just as well say "what kind of chop buys Apple PCs or components anyway?". Really smart comment... If you had more of a clue about how purchasing decisions for IT gear is made you'd know perfectly why people buy from those manufacturers.

My point was that all big manufacturers do the same thing, so singling out Apple as one who provides overpriced components for their own hardware is stupid...

Apple are not the only one but they have far more market monopoly in their particular :ghey: market.

I don't really care if you think Mac users are gay, but your comments are just making you look like an idiot. :)
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 10:50amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Okay I should be man enough to ignore this post but....

Really smart comment... If you had more of a clue about how purchasing decisions for IT gear is made you'd know perfectly why people buy from those manufacturers.

(Unless you bought direct and got a mega bulk corporate deal)

 :dunno:

it's nice that you don't care.
thanks for posting
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 10:57amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
So all non corporate or non business customers of Dell's are "chops"? I said "why people buy" I wasn't just talking about business buyers...
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 11:27amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
harsh but true
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Posted: 19 Oct 2007, 4:07pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
The online apple store does quote around a grand to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB of RAM. Absolute robbery. Someone at my work recently bought a 17" macbook pro with the lot (he seriously ticked every box) and Next Byte did it for about half that. Fucking thing still cost him around $5000!
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Posted: 21 Oct 2007, 1:57pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I upgraded the memory in my G4 iBook with DDR1 PC2700 notebook memory I had laying around from another laptop.. worked a charm
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Posted: 21 Oct 2007, 2:34pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
the motherboard in your macbook pro was designed by a cheap ass taiwanese manufacturer from an intel chipset reference design, meaning you'll be hard pressed to find ddr2 ram that won't work.  that said there is definitely dodgy ass ram out there so don't just use any old stick.

i tend to just buy it from somewhere with half of a reputation that will let you return it if you have issues.  generally speaking you can't go past MSY in da city for Cheap IT Stuff™ that doesn't suck completely

if you want to get it thru a distinguished house of apple & have some 'peace of mind' including installation (which is Really Hard™) by a grinning idiot in a blue checked shirt send us a PM

i don't read AM as much as i should (that's a plug :E) these days so if you have any misguided negative impressions of the mac which you would like dispelled, or if you are beyond this foolishness and need some general macsisstance or advice feel free to privately massage me also...
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Posted: 21 Oct 2007, 5:04pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
If you want to buy soon I'd wait till Leopard comes out, unless you're sure you can get a free or very cheap upgrade voucher...

Only a few days to go :)
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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 9:55amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
If you want to buy soon I'd wait till Leopard comes out, unless you're sure you can get a free or very cheap upgrade voucher...

Only a few days to go :)

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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 10:56amSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Fair enough then... So it's only worth waiting if you want to save $12.95. :)
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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 3:49pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Also have to mention just how nice this looks sitting on your desk!



 :lol: I've had one of these for a few weeks now and I didn't even realise it had USB ports on the side of the keyboard until you posted that.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 3:52pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
:lol: I've had one of these for a few weeks now and I didn't even realise it had USB ports on the side of the keyboard until you posted that.

I was the same for a while. I had a bitch to a friend that the mouse cord wasnt long enough and he pointed me in the direction of the USB ports on the keyboard.  :lol:

All good now.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 11:36pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I bag windows as much as the next guy, but I've just realised that I've had no crashes, blue screens etc for years with XP. It's on virtually all the time too. Sweet. I'll still get a mac next tho methinks.

Well my PC running XP just decided it was time to restart itself just then :lol:

SEE! It's even smarter than i realised!  :lol:

 :lookaround:
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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 11:38pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
:lol:
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Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 8:32amSubject: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
ok... inspired by Rgon's massif effort on the Live thread, enter... errrr, this thread... please sticky if we're woooorttthy wind'o'baron'o'phlarge...

It seems that 'if you're serious about audio production you use a Mac' *ducks flames*, or something like that anyway.  Ya can't deny that a lot 'o' serious characters who make serious DnB (and whatnot) are on Macs.  Besides which, there's plenty 'o' questions about broken Windaz installs flying around teh board... Anyway, enough barely coherent rambling justification...

I will attempt to follow this post up with some information on indispensable software tools and hidden features etc, but in the meantime I'm always up some Q&A...  I should be able to answer just about anyone's questions about anything Mac, or other  products for that matter, seeing as I've spent TooBloodyLong™ being familiar with the cunts.  Don't get on AM *heaps* often but will try to check T+C kinda regularly.

I'm sure there's something every new or experience Mac user out there wants to know... I come up with things fairly often myself & customers are always throwing some doozies at me, and I will attempt to post 'em up if I can rebmemer... But eyyyyy! (fonz-on-nos)

ask away...
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Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 10:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
It seems that 'if you're serious about audio production you use a Mac' *ducks flames*, or something like that anyway.

FLAMES APLENTY HERE M8! - Don't knock PC's..... however i must admit I do like MAC's as well (yes i'm Switzerland on that one, firmly stuck on the fence). Both systems have benefit, it's just MAC's are betta for non-tech types. PC's need a bit more maintenance.

Had to laugh at the Serato Product Night on Wednesday...... Reflux was the only one using a PC and the secondary display for the projectors was a bit screwy and he copped it from everyone !  (i feel ya m8, never fear).

Big up for starting this thread, i think i can contribute even tho i don't own a MAC, one of my best mates is a MAC tech so hopefully some nuggets of wisdom to follow.....
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Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 3:17amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah my guess was the pin/s for green on his vga output were dodgy.... anyway...

joe... i had bootcamp installed but one of the windows files corrupted. i deleted the partition to start again from scratch and now when i got to partition it comes up with an error and tells me to use disk utility to fix it. when i use disk utility it says the volume header is damaged and for some reason it won't let me repair it...

got any ideas?
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Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 3:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
geez you couldn't just start with something simple could ya... :E

you could probably fix it with the likes of disk warrior, in fact i think that problem is more or less why that product exists... i will check when i get home if i still have a copy you could borrow...  otherwise you would be best off getting the data off the drive and reformatting...  could potentially be the beginning of the end of that hdd so make sure you're backed up anyway.

DW takes ages to run and might not fix it so if erase installing doesn't sound like a major chore it could actually be quicker for you to get sorted... but if you can't be arsed we'll try it...

do you use/need boot camp?  parallels works a lot better when you just use an image file, and compresses it to boot, giving you ntfs in windows, and not requiring you to pre-set how much space you're gonna need for ur windows partition...
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Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 4:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i had parallels and bootcamp and parallels kept crashing. opened windows with bootcamp and it said that the file was corrupt.

will just instal parallels by itself then. didn't know you could do that.

keen for disk warrior though, i downloaded a version of it but it doesn't seem to do much.... not sure if i'm using it right tho.

also whats a good program for removing all parts of a program?

edit - jsut got parallels up but it still won't open the program i need it to, doh :bash:
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 3:03pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
am for removing all parts of a program?

AppCleaner does the trick for me
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 3:23pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Anyone tried Leopard yet? The reviews look good - I just don't have a DL DVD sitting around to burn it to, so will probably extract the image to an external HD and boot from that to install.

The most important features for me is a fixed Spotlight, Spaces, and just upgrading teh already beaming cool factor yet again. I read that not all apps support Spaces very well, so will just have to wait and see.

Adding boolean queries (and,or,not) to Spotlight was a must. Most apps have been given the workover, seeing as though the gap between Tiger and Leopard was about 2.5 years, this is the most major OSX update to date.

Ground-up 64bit though is rather awesome - but still runs on 32bit processors - wtfbbq?

The thing that amazes me about OSX is that, rather than windows, every time a new release comes out - its generally faster than the previous. And Tiger is already awesome.

Even if you don't use many of the new features, it is still a worthy upgrade.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 3:27pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I might order it this week.

By "fixed Spotlight" I guess you mean upgraded? Cause Spotlight wasn't broken before...
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 3:37pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
By "fixed Spotlight" I guess you mean upgraded? Cause Spotlight wasn't broken before...

I sometimes found that even if you had the exact filename, it wouldn't always find the file

On the PC I use AvaFind which is great - I'm not a fan of Google and MS desktop search
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 3:39pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Really? Strange... Never seen that occur myself but I am sure it could happen. :)
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 8:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
AppCleaner does the trick for me

fo sho... i've recently also used  'AppZapper' which is slightly 'slicker' but only has limited 'zaps' 'til you have to pay for it...  but you can zap as many apps in one zap as you want and I've only used it twice out of I think five goes... does the same job but.

definitely recommend skipping bootcamp if you don't need it, as always make sure you're using the latest build of parallels cos they fix lots often...  getting pretty good now tho...

have you done all windows updates to see if you can get that app working? goto update.microsoft.com in IE and repeat until it has nothing to offer... was it working in bootcamp?

disk warrior pretty much does nothing unless you've got a problem more or less like what you've described... completely rebuilds the hard drive and can fix some shit that the apple disk util and the unix check-disk-thing can't...
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Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 8:33pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
I sometimes found that even if you had the exact filename, it wouldn't always find the file

On the PC I use AvaFind which is great - I'm not a fan of Google and MS desktop search

i think you can force it to re-index the hard drive by going to privacy tab of the spotlight pane of system prefs and adding the root of the drive to the don't-search list and then removing it... usually fixes spotlight not finding shit

what i'm more interested in re: leopard are the core improvements, which won't really mean much until all the apps have had a good year to get stuck in and put it all to use... i think that apple have been waiting to get this out to release a LOT of ridiculously cool stuff 'around' the mac (starting with 3rd party iphone apps... remember iphone, ipod touch, apple tv all run OSX... they're probably already on leopard technologies).

and i'm not saying the 'advertised' features aren't cool... definitely the most major upgrade by a long way.  that said i won't be installing it for a while yet :lol:  unless anyone wants to buy me a 7200rpm 250gb 2.5" sata hard drive...

oh and the core 2s are 64 bit my friend (as opposed to the core '1's which aren't)... damn right it's gonna be faster...
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Posted: 29 Oct 2007, 9:16pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
joe... i had bootcamp installed but one of the windows files corrupted. i deleted the partition to start again from scratch and now when i got to partition it comes up with an error and tells me to use disk utility to fix it. when i use disk utility it says the volume header is damaged and for some reason it won't let me repair it...

got any ideas?

dubbd, i think is an issue with your master boot record or your boot sector. I get the same issue on some new dell machines I build at work, ones that have a hidden partition with Dell system restore shit. Once that partition is blown away the OS refuses to install. The inbuilt M.S. chkdsk feature usually fixes this. I havent gotten around to finding out whether this is MBR or boot sector bcoz i just havent had time.

I'm not sure about fixing this with a MAC utility, but there are some on the Ultimate Boot CD that you could try if it ever happens again.

-----> Ultimate Boot CD

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Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 2:00pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i merged the 2 mac threads all on my macbook.

they should put it in a commercial
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Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 6:34pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
oh and the core 2s are 64 bit my friend (as opposed to the core '1's which aren't)... damn right it's gonna be faster...

I didn't say they weren't. I was merely stating how my G4 is 32-bit and manages to run a 64-bit OS whereas microsoft still build seperate 32 and 64-bit OS's - they really fucked up there.
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Posted: 7 Nov 2007, 8:41amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i have this superdrive update that pops up very time i boot and say theres no devices that need updating.
how do i get rid of it?  its been there for months
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Posted: 7 Nov 2007, 9:44amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i have this superdrive update that pops up very time i boot and say theres no devices that need updating.
how do i get rid of it?  its been there for months

Removing startup items
System Preferences->System->Accounts->Login Items
Select/Highlight the firmware update and then press the - button just below the window.


That's what my MAC tech friend told me. Hope it works.

 :cross:
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Posted: 7 Nov 2007, 9:57amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
looks good :) cheers
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Posted: 7 Nov 2007, 10:57amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
did any macbook crew have a problem with the system restarting and crashing when they updated to 10.4.10 and did the EFI update?  it was shitting me last night but ive since done some security update and it seems to be fine.

i was about to take it in to get looked at but i know they can take up to 2 weeks to fix it :(
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Posted: 7 Nov 2007, 6:24pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
Any mac purch'd after October 1 can be Leoparded for $12.95 at www.apple.com.au/macosx/uptodate
nice...i ordered mine on the 2nd!

bam!
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Posted: 16 Nov 2007, 7:59amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
any ipod touch crew out there?
ive just hacked mine so i can put all these other cool apps on there.  very nice.

jailbreakme.com and ipodtouchfans.com are great places to start lookin at things you can do with it
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007, 12:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
ipod touch's are fucking cool

i.must.get.one
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007, 7:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i might wait for the iphone, depending on how much they cost... 
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007, 7:48pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i might wait for the iphone, depending on how much they cost... 

im so keen on one to bud.... reckon they wont be cheap though
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007, 9:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
mmmm i suspected that  :|
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Posted: 25 Nov 2007, 3:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i was about to take it in to get looked at but i know they can take up to 2 weeks to fix it :(

apparently mac&pod, the norwood apple centre's service centre, at thebarton, has decent turnaround times compared to a certain red logo'd monolith...

iphone won't be here until Q3/Q4 next year, and there's no guarantee it won't be later than that.  good news however, is that due to a certain piece of french legislation (i used to hate the french... in principle... but hasn't that changed... being cheese eating surrender monkeys does not seem to be mutually exclusive to being forward thinking and generally cool) Apple will be selling fully unlocked iPhones there.  the most significant thing about this is that Apple will obviously need to support an official version of the unlocked software.  what remains to be seen is whether that will load onto 'locked' iphones, or if you will still need to 'jailbreak' for each & every update if you didn't buy the phone unlocked in the first place.

that said i know at least 10 people in adelaide using iphones on all networks... no denying it's hella cool.  mobile browsing will be slow-as-fuck for anyone not on telstra, but everything else works well.  you would really want to be at least slightly techno-geeky to deal with having to apply 'hacked' updates and whatnot if you were set on getting one... and have cash to burn, of course...
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 5:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
there any good programs for detecting/deleting duplicates of files?
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 1:36pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
thats crazy isn't it!
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 7:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anyone know why the light on my power cord keeps disappearing when its still charging or charged?
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 7:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i dunno, occasionally mine will flash green/orange when fully charged. my mate had his fuck up and melt the bit just before the plastic housing on the magnet cos the wires stretched and touched, kinda think mine is heading the same direction...
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 11:17pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
over heating, termal protection most probably
what v/a its pullin?
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 8 Jan 2008, 11:18pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
are you using it plugged into a step down tranny or anything weird UK style?
if so is it a budget one?
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 12:36amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah its in a uk adapter. i bought it from a decent electrical store in a nice packet so im assuming its a good one.
ive got a cheaper one as well. they both do the same thing
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:23amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the output voltage is most probably not regulated and is more prone to larger spikes that normal. so the unit is probably gettin slightly over its rated voltage, which causes it to heat

just coolin the power supply as best you can and see if that makes a difference.
or measure the temp and if they switch off at the same temp everytime.

not alot ya can do except take measure to cool the psu. opening its case( not safe ) and a lil computer fan and you will be right as rain
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:26amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
is it for a laptop?

if so what voltage and amp rating does the power pack have on it.
ill give u a brand new one for free that wont have that problem. samarah can express it to you.
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(used to own a jaycar dealership)


we wont hold that against you  :E
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 11:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I first read that as a Jayar dealership.

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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 12:00pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
lol i would :)
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 6:58pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im good thanks mate. i dont think its that, left it all night and its still on, maybe its just a dodgy light.

i found this yesterday as well, i know me and timmy have had our disk icon disappear from us.. heres the easy way to get it back

launch your Script Editor (Applications>AppleScript>Script Editor) and paste the code below into it - then click Run

tell application "System Events"
set visible of startup disk to true
end tell
tell application "Finder" to quit
delay 1
tell application "Finder" to launch
delay 1
tell application "System Events" to quit

And it worked perfectly, very handy!
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
pc boy here :)
which pains me
bullshittin my way into a job as a graphic designer im surrounded by them.

priced up my own mac pro came to 9400au
build a equivilant or better pc for 3700

did my head in
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
can't put a price on peace of mind :nahnah:
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
lol my system is better than the mac i priced up and its uptime is 3 weeks 4 days 12hours
not one blue screen

on vista

overclocked quad core at 4.0ghz during summer

thats peace of mind
:)

i dont have a 30inch monitor sorry
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:21pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
peace of mind is all about setting it all up correctly from the start regardless of mac /pc
not as simple as it sounds but time spent reading figurin out everything and knowin ya bits and
u get a system that u can fully rely/depend on
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:25pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
lol my system is better than the mac i priced up and its uptime is 3 weeks 4 days 12hours
not one blue screen

on vista

:lol:

blue screen.

how i miss those days
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
lol me too, not at all.

i cant speak highly enough of vista.
i push my system hard hard
and it doesnt piss and moan, no little bugs like xp.
and by far the most stable system ive had.
my oc xp systems would crash once a day at least just cos
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:32pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the way i look at it is in april i would've had this lappy for 2 years and i haven't had to set up anything correctly, it just works. the only problem i've had is the fan noise which got fixed under warranty and the issues patch mentioned a couple posts back which was solved with some google-ing. the laptop prices are pretty reasonable i reckon, the fully spec'd mac pro's get bloody pricey though but for audio i wouldn't go past them and certainly wouldn't look at vista for audio!
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calePosts: 709
Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
u should not look to an operating system for audio.
look to a quality sound card to produce the signal. macs u buy external, pc internal or external.
but yes onboard sound is very bad for anything serious.

i dont hate macs but i just cant see their appeal personally when another product is able to do everything with less compat issues and equally as good or better  at a better price.

everything except the never opening it up/ upgrade thing which is what alot of people want
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i'm talking about running audio apps and hardware, can't go past mac atm. vista still has bugs to sort out with software and drivers for hardware, it's early days yes but there is a reason why training institutes and pro studios (for the most part) use mac. time will tell if vista can change this

for the record i have an external sound card :thumbsup: didn't use it to record weez's mix though (didn't have the cables i needed at the time), just used the onboard sound but it still came up pretty well
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calePosts: 709
Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 7:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does the job, my mother board has a beefed up onboard soundcard optical and coaxial outputs which i use , but you can hear the difference with a proper one for sure :)

i may just be one of the lucky few.
iv downloaded every
music production prog/vst/ all latest realease
same with 2d/3d graphics and i have not had one problem with any yet,

macs are also purpose built to a point which makes them better suited to those enviroments
and they look pretty :)
hehehe

so my experiences have been excellent and thats all i can vouch for end of the day
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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 9:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i cant speak highly enough of vista.

You must be fucking kidding.

Vista is a half finished piece of shit and I can only wish that M$ fucking burn for it. Its been out - what - nearly 12months and yet there are something like 80-100 updates for it already? I'm glad I went back to XP on my PC.

Having said that - Nothing beats OS X. Every time a new release comes out, its faster than the last. Fuck Windows!


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Posted: 9 Jan 2008, 9:53pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
turn auto updates off anyway
but like i said its workin like a dream for me and mine

because im lucky or everyone else just doenst know how to use the fuckn thing
so they say its crap
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 1:01amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
True, I have mates who love it to bits and have no problems at all - But then they don't do much other than play WoW  :). I just hate it - the (in)security features, the lame interface, massively slower, etc. It hasn't really evolved much and to me it is not a worthy upgrade. Being an IT admin, it is a fucking headache to us.

Each to their own. When I touch my Mac I feel like I am getting it on with Steve Jobs  :luvteef:
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 1:40amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
because im lucky or everyone else just doenst know how to use the fuckn thing
so they say its crap

there's the argument right there. you should be able to just get it out the box and go. not have to buy demo shit or update drivers and security shit.

anyway back to mac stuff Smiley
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 1:49amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
its a neverending tiff Smiley
holden v ford for nerds. im happy ne way.

so what was wrong wif your thing
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 2:04amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
dont you guys sleep? i know it is adelaide
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 2:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i dont Smiley
dunno what everyone else is pretending they are doing
lol

alot of your friends can vouch for my ability to stay awake Smiley
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Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 2:24amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
they sponsored my 40hr week famine effort.
had to pull out tho started seeing things. all is well now. never again tho
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 4:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
that's officially the first good review of vista i've heard

and i don't for a second agree that it's the same as holden v ford...  that's a very poor analogy imho...  sure there are apple fanatics all over the planet but they aren't the majority of mac users.  most people are buying macs because they have been shown the real world advantages of OSX. 

sure your hardware was a lot cheaper than a pre-built mac pro but it doesn't mean you wouldn't have a better system if you were running leopard instead of vista.  if your real issue is you must have a custom tower of power check google teh hackintosh and you can show yourself why you're wrong in your own time icon_wink

patch/timmy - are you sure it wasn't just the command line toggle for - finder prefs > show these items on desktop?  or was it specifically the startup disk that was disappearing and not any other HDDs?
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 4:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Dude you used to? or still do work in a an Apple shop

How can your opinion be unbiased?!

I can see the advantages of a Mac over a PC, but there are also disadvantages. I've worked for a distributor of both.

I have no problem with Vista myself, have used it since the early beta days. If you have new hardware it is spot on, however if you're running older hardware expect issues.

People who are scared or don't know what they're doing tend to be the ones with issues. Oooh the interface is all different run away!

Each to their own in my opinion. Apple are fantastic at marketing and people love to eat it up.

My dealings with people working for Apple in Australia have been nothing short of terrible due to their closed minds.

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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 5:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
big up !

im open to what ever works best for what i need
and i respect that and the fact different people want different things
obviously im bias towards pc and will try to lean that way everytime
but if they day comes where its not what i need ill jump ship no worries.
and alot of people who buy computers arent adept at knowing what they actually need for their application
so i just ask questions and figure it out for them cos usually they are wayyyyyyy off par

but i have yet to recommend a mac to anybody for any reason as its never been needed.
unless people ask for a giant ipod looking computer with a ridiculous mouse
lol
then i will send them to apple world LOL
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 5:08pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
the motherboard in your macbook pro was designed by a cheap ass taiwanese manufacturer from an intel chipset reference design, meaning you'll be hard pressed to find ddr2 ram that won't work.  that said there is definitely dodgy ass ram out there so don't just use any old stick.

i tend to just buy it from somewhere with half of a reputation that will let you return it if you have issues.  generally speaking you can't go past MSY in da city for Cheap IT Stuff™ that doesn't suck completely

if you want to get it thru a distinguished house of apple & have some 'peace of mind' including installation (which is Really Hard™) by a grinning idiot in a blue checked shirt send us a PM

i don't read AM as much as i should (that's a plug teef) these days so if you have any misguided negative impressions of the mac which you would like dispelled, or if you are beyond this foolishness and need some general macsisstance or advice feel free to privately massage me also...

i beleive macs use sodimm ddr2 667mhz or something similar
so its not ur average 168 ppin pc1066 ddr,
shorter and fatter


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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 5:40pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sure your hardware was a lot cheaper than a pre-built mac pro but it doesn't mean you wouldn't have a better system if you were running leopard instead of vista.  if your real issue is you must have a custom tower of power check google teh hackintosh and you can show yourself why you're wrong in your own time?

i dont see why thats an issue?
nothings wrong with my system but i can monitor and adjust it as i see fit depending on what i want to do
and i have a large case watercooled. so it takes up space

and apples use the same hardware as pcs essentially
xeon and c2d cpu
nvidia and ati graphix
the just use their own motherboard design.

and pound for pound in speed, processing power and graphics capabilities
my system shits all over the brand new mac pro optioned out ...
embarrasingly . and leopard does not change that
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 6:50pmSubject: Re: the Mac thread
*bites*

i so DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS, but your misguidedness could be influencing poor innocent AM users considering this debate.  fuck apple, fuck the particular reseller who employs me one day a week, i don't care how many computers they sell or how much money they make.  doesn't mean i don't do my job when i'm there - that's because of a basic work ethic not because i'm a fan boy.

Quote from: John L
Dude you used to? or still do work in a an Apple shop

How can your opinion be unbiased?!

I can see the advantages of a Mac over a PC, but there are also disadvantages. I've worked for a distributor of both.

I have no problem with Vista myself, have used it since the early beta days. If you have new hardware it is spot on, however if you're running older hardware expect issues.

People who are scared or don't know what they're doing tend to be the ones with issues. Oooh the interface is all different run away!

Each to their own in my opinion. Apple are fantastic at marketing and people love to eat it up.

My dealings with people working for Apple in Australia have been nothing short of terrible due to their closed minds.

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i beleive macs use sodimm ddr2 667mhz or something similar
so its not ur average 168 ppin pc1066 ddr,
shorter and fatter


all laptops (or desktops for that matter) using current or last generation intel chipsets use ddr2 sodimms...  i'm not in touch enough with the pc world atm to know if the sis/via/nvidias are using something different and i'm certainly not claiming that the intel chipset is the best (although it may be i really don't know). i don't know what's so average about 168 pin 1066 ddr because i've not built a pc since the athlon xp but i do know that there are one or two centrino laptops kicking around with ddr2 sodimms

as for generally speaking and to repsond to John L also (to whom i also say - yes apple australia are fucked.  their ineptitude has frustrated me for many years.  that has nothing to do with why i might buy/use a certain computer/operating system, however.  once again, i have not loyalty or allegiance to apple or their channel, here or internationally.  they can such my balls.  but they do make some good shit.)

i should probably say for the boffins sake that all of the following is in terms of a personal computer, not a business machine.  i don't doubt that windows systems have a lot to offer in that sector and many others where great software solutions have been developed for the windows platform.  i'm not really knowledgeable enough to be starting a debate about that however.

(i would probably still be suggesting that if you're in business you probably need a laptop and if you need windows on that you're probably still better off with a mac laptop and that then perhaps you may aswell use osx for your own stuff, especially if you can get away with doing your outlook-exchange/project/visio or whatever wacky solution your company was sold thru virtualisation, and enjoy the speed and no virus/malware action that your average business type cat never thought they could have from their shitty windows laptop that takes 7 minutes to start up every time they sit down to use it)

furthermore, i can't speak so much for custom tower pc vs mac pro as i'm more of a laptop user myself.  i have no doubt that the mac pro is a fair rip off, but that doesn't concern me too much because i don't really want one.

but anyway,

as far as laptops go,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136649-page,3-c,notebooks/article.html

i'd have bought a macbook even if i preferred vista to osx.  as far as i'm concerned it's a dope as fuck laptop (in black, that is).  if you need graphics, go pro, either for the mac os, or for the above reason and the size and weight (yes they need an ultra portable but they do a good 15/17 no doubt).

for the desktops, it is a shame that the mac pros are so steep but there are VERY FEW reasons to be using a tower over an imac these days.  and they are fucking bargain goldness as far as i'm concerned vs. an equivalent core 2 duo desktop pc with an intel chipset and a good quality hi res 20 inch screen. 

that's without considering the aesthetics and marketing which you're right, people go nuts for, but which doesn't concern me too much at all.  i like the look of my macbook but i'd still have bought it if i could only get white.  the keyboard is awesome (important to me), the whole thing has an incredibly durable design, weighs fuck all, has great battery life, and i happily thrash out 10-20 apps at a time daily with my measly 3gb of ram (and i'm not even yet running leopard which in my experience is nearly twice as fast with it's hardcore 64 bit action).  it takes less than 10 seconds to be fully funcitonal waking from sleep, which uses 11/12ths of NO battery power

i'm talking about a computer for your own everyday stuff, ya know, 'teh interwebs' and email and instant pestering and logic pro and pro tools and serato and the other 80 or so apps on my dock that are nearly all sweeter than their windows equivalents.


i'll take that over water cooling, but that's just me...



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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im someone who falls into the very few cat.  i guess.
but few reason to use a tower is pretty hasty

try encoding a dvd on one and not have it cripple the system whilst it does its thing in the hour or so it takes
or playin any new game on even half decent res and quality settings.
or a virus scan slowing everything to a halt  whilst it does its things
playing an mp3 and ig your burning a cd the music actually slows down LOL

not acceptable in my opinion

and i can encode a full dvd  in 20mins+burn  whilst playing crysis full spec 1650*1080 on my pc and it does it happily. shit prolly virus scan as well i dont think thats to much to expect

maybe i expect to much from a computer system
but it seems pretty simple
make something that isnt gunna be able to be using 100% of its abilities to do the basics the day its realeased
u want a decent shelf life out of a system not have some thats completley obsolete in 2 years

and this directed at mac and pcs alike

as for watercooling
its given me a 70% performance on and already top of the line cpu(q6600 stable at 4ghz) and and 30% (8800ultra 725/1200 clocks) on the best videocard available
for $300ish

pretty bloody good value for money if ya ask me


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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
like i said, i definitely recommend a windows system for gaming...

virus scan..?
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/521/98720160vp1.jpg[/img]]image not archived: 98720160vp1.jpg
and thats not very hard to look at i think
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
and i would recomment macbook for musos etc


they each have good attributes and bad

just up to us to know whats right for what we need
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Quote from: cale

they each have good attributes and bad

just up to us to know whats right for what we need


i'm glad we can agree on that icon_wink
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
ill be using a g5 all day everyday soon against my will so gunna have to learn to just suck it up
lol
30 inch monitor tho Smiley
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:46pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
nice one, well if you have any difficulties let us know...
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
lol yeah where the right click on the mouse?
and the alt key?

LOL!
jk
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 7:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
no, seriously,

if you have a mighty mouse (with the scroll ball) you may need to go to system preferences > mouse & kb and set the 'right button' to secondary click.

if you're stuck with a single button mouse, byo would be my advice... they do without any doubt suck balls.

most any kb shortcut you can think of using the ctrl key is just /command and the same letter... +Q instead of alt+f4, +, for prefs in most apps, edit menu commands, all of your itunes, photoshop, cubase, etc shit.

unless you already know this, in which case hrm derrrr
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 8:03pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i use graphics tablet has prog macros which is cool
and its only for phtoshop.
but thank you
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 8:21pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i love how everyone who has no idea thinks there's only one mouse button and thats it haha


what the fuck is a virus scan?
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 8:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
somethin i dont use thats fo sure!@ Smiley
create more problems than they fix imo

one cool thing is the inbuilt webcam with the pic warper
lol
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I find it gay how people have to defend their 'own' OS. Microsoft have won your ass.

On the other hand there is no need to explain how cool OS X is. If you don't like it, I couldn't really give a fuck! Don't use it.
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:30pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
who are you talking too?
lol
if it was me,

mind your own fuckn business pops to mind
haha
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Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 11:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
did your mum ever say
if youve got nothing nice to say dont say anything.
mylo should have that tattood to the inside of his eyelids Smiley

if your an asshole to me im and asshole to you, i dont have this attitude unless its given to me Smiley
but if mylo doesnt wanna be my friend, ill survive
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:00amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
not you your cool, mylo just comes out of nowhere with these angry rude little comments for no constructive reason. just makes me think fuckn grow up. so im not gunna take rubbish, nor should i Smiley

everyone else rocks
some more than others hehe
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:04amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I fail to see how he came up with "angry rude little comments for no constructive reason"

He's just giving his personal input, which as far as I know, is what forums are about  Smiley
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:04amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well why come into a Mac thread and go on about how fucking hot shit you think your pansy Frankenstein piece of poo is? Fucking stay off the crack mate.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:07amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
..my broadband cap to come off at midnight

You gonna get raped bitch

thats not an opinion
lol
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im not gunna argue with a more people like you about something i really dont care about.
its your money spend it as you please

as did i

and thanks for the advice mum cracks bad shit i hear
LOL

not a bad way to make a livin tho
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Fail to see what that has to do with this thread...  offtopic  Smiley


Who Cares What Everyone Else Thinks!
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:11amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i have said all i need to / going to

your call tho
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 12:49amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i would be more than happy to join a mac group and have it out with u fine folks
but im not gunna do it fo no reason
so
i assume i know what all that shit means and 3dmark06 runs on mac.
so unless its close to that score dont waste my time
thats off single gpu as well not sli
not holdin my breath tho

the score is relivent to whole system performance not just video.
and its widely accepted as the standard benchmark for a entire system.
so yeah anything under 15k and theres nothing to discuss except glossy white finishes

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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:19amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
feel the pocket protector love laugh

keep it mac in here from now on or i will use my almighty powers haha
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Posted: 12 Jan 2008, 1:24amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
youll drop fat beats for us?

sick lol
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 4:33amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Ok, cool. I will spend more money on my PC to get a better 3DMark score. Because obviously that is all a computing experience is about.. your 3DMark score.

You beat me. My computer is shit. I will shut it down now and upgrade  laugh
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 8:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Some people use our computers for work, not to benchmark shit. icon_wink
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 8:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

lol
its the only thing i can think of that gives a definitive result that is fair and undeniable regardless the brand victorious.

for geeky braggin points most def Smiley
but also as a real world performance scale guilde
be it graphics and audio rendering speeds
to data transfer rates between prefiferals
all taken into account and calculated into ya final score.

and i think its the only thing i would not be stubborn enough  to argue about till i was blue the the face
if i was wrong lol
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 11:58amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
can we split this mac vs pc shit into another thread plz
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Posted: 13 Jan 2008, 12:21pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
bin it

over it Smiley
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Posted: 19 Jan 2008, 5:33amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Macbook Air ... Drool

Good thing I bought a Macbook Pro a few months ago otherwise I'd probably pick one up!

Looks like a great portable machine if you have a beast of a workstation at home allready (since I think most people would not be able to only have a macbook air).

Aside from being the thinnest laptop ever I reckon it's also the most beautiful looking!
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Posted: 19 Jan 2008, 5:45amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
they do look very slick indeed, but i would be dead if i didnt have firewire and audio in.

in other news ipod touch firmware update is out, but i wouldnt grab it just yet if you have jailbroken your 1.1.2
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Posted: 19 Jan 2008, 5:51amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
they do look very slick indeed, but i would be dead if i didnt have firewire and audio in.


Fair enough - they're obviously not for the more specialised users who need features like you do. I couldn't manage with one either... Even the lack of ethernet is kind of annoying for me personally.
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Posted: 19 Jan 2008, 2:56pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Fair enough - they're obviously not for the more specialised users who need features like you do. I couldn't manage with one either... Even the lack of ethernet is kind of annoying for me personally.

Apple made some big sacrifices for the world's sexiest lappie, and I can see the logic behind most of it - buy more Apple gear laugh

Lowest spec processor in any available Mac, only 1.6 or 1.8GHz Core2 Duo. Probably due to using ultra-low power versions. Still way faster than my G4!

The only jacks being 1x USB, audio out, and video out. Fair enough, you can get USB versions of most devices i.e. ethernet, but a USB-Firewire adapter will not allow Firewire Target Disk Mode.

No optical drive, but if you need to install software from CD/DVD you can buy the sweet-looking Apple (or some ghey other) external drive or use Apple's Remote Disk software to access another computer's optical drive via a wireless network. If you want to burn music CDs for the car, buy an iPod.

Small hard drive as used in the iPod, which is limited to 80GB, or a 64GB solid-state drive. Not huge in today's standards. If you need more storage, buy Apple's Time Capsule wireless router/storage device.

Battery is not removable, which would suck for long flights because you can't just plug in a spare.

I still want one  Smiley
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Posted: 22 Jan 2008, 11:39amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know



this one has a more serious point
"Eccentricity is not, as some would believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd." (Edith Sitwell)
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Posted: 24 Jan 2008, 7:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
ok i have a problem.

how do i export all my address book contacts in one go back into a windows format? 
i need to get them back on cos my phone doesnt roll with isync well enough. it keeps popping up with a timeout error and every time a different number of contacts gets transferred.
ive had enough of trying so i just wanna put em all into outlook and do it that way
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Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 12:47amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Sorry I can only help going the other way... icon_wink
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Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 9:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
"Eccentricity is not, as some would believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd." (Edith Sitwell)
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Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 12:28pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
ok i have a problem.

how do i export all my address book contacts in one go back into a windows format? 
i need to get them back on cos my phone doesnt roll with isync well enough. it keeps popping up with a timeout error and every time a different number of contacts gets transferred.
ive had enough of trying so i just wanna put em all into outlook and do it that way

just select all in the contact list, and drag 'n' drop to a folder on the desktop

outlook supports vcards np afaik

if you're still stuck there's about 3578423 other ways

also - what phone?  can probably make it work with isync...
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Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 1:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
FOR THE RECORD I HAVE NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER IN A MACBOOK AIR, I DON'T WANT ONE AND I DOUBT I EVER WILL

however stupidity shall not go unchallenged

this one has a more serious point

(see above for idiots comparison of air to a vaio)


1.  the vaio is not solid state, so why are they comparing it's price to that of the air with solid state.  it should show the cost of the mac book air as $1799. 

and that's without upgrading the processor from 1.6 to 1.8 ghz

the vaio is 1.2ghz

2. dvi out beats vga out, VERY IMPORTANT with a small built in screen.  even more important for the vaio than the air because its screen is 2 inches smaller!

3. the vaio has a 4x3 display....  how modern. 

4. that 56k modem will come in handy....  for all the faxes i send and the time i spend on dialup internet....

5. that's great that you can use a 'port replicator' for more usb ports.  have you heard of a USB hub?

6. stereo speakers!  i'll bet they crank

7. actually it DOES have a built in microphone.  this idiot clearly did his research

8. i guarantee you that you would get more battery life out of the air running OSX than from the vaio running P or vista from a single battery.  i will however agree that it is very lame you can't carry spares.

9. the asus runs linux... yes it does... so does the air...  pity the asus doesn't run OSX

10.  vaio isn't pimped to clueless idiots who enjoy getting ripped off for a fashion accessory?  HAVE YOU SEEN THE PINK ONE?  OR THE OTHER CHOICES OF COLOUR?  i beg to differ...  sony most definitely are as much a pack of 'fucking douchebags' as apple in this context at the very least.

OK.  so we have a 1799 laptop versus a 2199 laptop.  for the extra $400 you get

a smaller non-wide screen

no dvi out

another usb port

a dialup modem

another 20gb of hdd space

a card reader

a built in optical drive (the add on dvd burner for the air is only $130 au and very compact... so shall we delete this point and say for the extra $270? depends if you need one)

an ethernet port
firewire
removable battery
(these are, to me, the biggest points, but you've gotta sacrifice something for a 2cm thick profile)

fingerprint scanner!  fucking awesome :/

a port replicator!!!! ????? woot

an express card slot

a much slower processor

....

sounds like a reasonable comparison

PITY YOU'RE STUCK WITH SHITTY WINDOWS

also, having fielded questions from people considering the purchase of a laptop over the last 4 years, i can tell you that the air is going to be very popular. 

once again if you're an overclocking haxor you're probably not in the market for a macbook air.  good for you.  don't buy one.  i won't.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 6:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
PITY YOU'RE STUCK WITH SHITTY WINDOWS

Hehe, for many of us who have come over to Mac OSX after using Windows for years (and in my case working with it for many years) that's what it comes down to with laptops these days - avoiding Windows.
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Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 9:20pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well, after a good 4 years my PC finally won't boot. I've tried another vid card so I reckon its the mobo.

Now... I can either upgrade the PC, which is what I'll most likely do because I got a nice Antec case, lots of drives, Audiophile 2496, etc.
BUT still runs Windows.

or... Get a Mac Mini biggrin

Decisions, decisions. Right this minute I just wanna get blazed and watch my Whose Line Is It Anyway collection.

On another note - I've switched from Firefox to Safari on my G4 and I liiiikkeee a lot
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Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 9:25pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
On another note - I've switched from Firefox to Safari on my G4 and I liiiikkeee a lot

yeah safari is good, still afew pages that don't work properly though which can be annoying. i have firefox as a backup so it's all good
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Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 9:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah safari is good, still afew pages that don't work properly though which can be annoying. i have firefox as a backup so it's all good

Ditto, but I'm quite amazed at how much faster pages render in Safari.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 11:48amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
or... Get a Mac Mini biggrin
its a workable option, easily transported too, seen quite a few in action around the place, just spec it up to its limits and it may do for a couple years more until something better comes along 
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Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 3:40pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hehe, for many of us who have come over to Mac OSX after using Windows for years (and in my case working with it for many years) that's what it comes down to with laptops these days - avoiding Windows.

too right. that is why im buying my first mac. A MacBook Pro  2.6ghz Core Duo running Leopard. Looking forward to the change I must say. And if I feel home sick, I can always boot into XP and god forbit ( if I realy have to that is) Vista..

Plus, I will be able to run Logic again!! man I miss using logic since it migrated to mac only.

Hopefuly this baby will arive at my door in the next couple of days.. Smiley


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Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 9:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Can anyone recommend an application I can use to cut a snippet out of an mp3 file and save it as a smaller mp3? A free application please, or something with a demo that will do it will be fine as well...

I want to cut out a 30 second snippet from a song out of a 2 hour radio show so I can upload it somewhere and ask/find out what the track is called.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 9:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
audacity.sourceforge.net
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Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 9:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Oh, wow. I've actually used that before under Windows but didn't realise it was available for other platforms. Open source - even better.

Thanks Smiley
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Posted: 4 Mar 2008, 8:46amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Could someone recomend an Audio editor for the MAC. I was used to running Steingergs Wavelab before on the PC. Is there any that have the same top end features?


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Posted: 4 Mar 2008, 5:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
scroll down two posts

teef
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Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 7:26amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
scroll down two posts

teef

I did see that khem, just want something more like Wavelabwith a bit more features  Smiley


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Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 7:49amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Thanks mate, peak pro looks pretty good. cheers


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Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 8:23pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
peak is good

if it's just for cutting up mp3s this little app works good http://deepniner.net/mp3trimmer/

you can also do it in itunes - just set the start and stop time in get info > options and convert to a new mp3 of your chosen bitrate (in prefs>advanced>importing), but if you're gonna do a bit of it it's probably worth getting the app ^^
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Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 10:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
peak is cool ive been using that but im tryin out twistedwave now. seems more like soundforge than peak did.

does anyone know of a way to set the zoom in peak to the scroll wheel or in my case, two fingers on the trackpad?
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Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 10:58pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
system prefs.... or peaks prefs, or maybe peak won't recognise it on new macs... unless they've updated a version...
must suck using that scratch pad all the time, hows your digits going there mister ? teef
try pressing down alt, command or control while your zooming and finger moving... dunno really teef ha ha  laugh
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Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 10:31amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
control + scrolling does it. icon_wink
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Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 4:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/fusion.html

If I buy this VM Fusion thing, will I have to buy an actual version of Windows as well?

I basically want to be able to run Fruity Loops with Logic (already have Logic installed on my mac, but Fruity isn't available on mac afaik), would I be able to do it with this program?

Thanks!  Smiley
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Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 4:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
If I buy this VM Fusion thing, will I have to buy an actual version of Windows as well?

Yes, it doesn't come with a Windows license.

I basically want to be able to run Fruity Loops with Logic (already have Logic installed on my mac, but Fruity isn't available on mac afaik), would I be able to do it with this program?

Yes you should be able to, I can't see a reason why it would not work.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 4:17pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Thanks for the quick reply mate!  Smiley
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Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 4:25pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Has anyone here used Spear? Nifty little program for messing about with sounds and creating entirely new ones out of the old ones.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 12:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Any logic users out there have the 8.0.1 update? That I could grab off them? Yes i am using a 'try before you buy version' so I cant officialy get the update from apple. Anyone?

for the record, i am planning to purchase the software in the near future..honest Smiley


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Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 3:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Is there any way I can save youtube videos on my mac?

Some sort of program I can download?
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Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 7:13pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the logic updates come up in software update mate so you can grab them
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Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 10:12pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Is there any way I can save youtube videos on my mac?

Some sort of program I can download?

not mac specific but videodownloadx.com lets you paste in the youtube link and links to/downloads the .flv for you.  also can get firefox plugins which work ok but i've found the site above to be easier.  haven't looked for an app that does it but as always macupdate.com and versiontracker.com would be good places to look for one (or any mac software for that matter)
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Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 8:10amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the logic updates come up in software update mate so you can grab them

Cheers Mr Patch, Logic updated nicely. Too bad for the Leopard update tho. It updated to 10.5.2 then logic started playing up (Loading slow n core audio issues). Went on the apple forums and read that a shit load of ppl are having the same issue after installing the leopard update and apparently apple are trying to fix it. Took me a while to reinstall everything and left it at 10.5.1 and logic updated. Now works sweet. All this time pissing around when I could have been making beats.

Anyone else had this happen?


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Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 8:17amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im still on 10.4 but thinkin of puttin 10.5 on soon. had it for a while just never really ad the urge so far, but it does look cool
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Posted: 2 Apr 2008, 2:58pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im still on 10.4 but thinkin of puttin 10.5 on soon. had it for a while just never really ad the urge so far, but it does look cool

Definitely worth it. DEFINITELY. I recommend a fresh format and install, so you'll have to backup everything first. Do a full software update also.

Leopard is one motherfucking big cat.
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Posted: 2 Apr 2008, 4:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah i'm thinking about it too, just don't wanna lose alot of my plugins yet
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Posted: 2 Apr 2008, 7:07pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah thats why i haven't done it yet. it was bad enough going to tiger originally, then to intel...
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Posted: 2 Apr 2008, 8:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'm still on 10.4 and can't really be bothered upgrading. I don't really see anything in Leopard that would make it worthwhile for me personally... As long as Apple keep releasing patches/updates for Tiger I'll stay with it for awhile longer I reckon. Smiley
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Posted: 6 Apr 2008, 4:40pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
leopard is cooler than i expected (fast!) but i would be very skeptical of plug-in compatibility unless you have anecdotal evidence that it werkz, lots of core has changed
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Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 3:04pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I agree. Leopard is running better than Tiger did on my 1GHz G4 with 768MB RAM
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Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 3:09pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'd hope it is faster, anyway I've just got other priorities on what to buy first I guess. Smiley

Might upgrade some time down the track!
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Posted: 20 Apr 2008, 10:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well I thought I'd put it off for a bit but I've been busy (read: earnt some money) so I just ordered Leopard and tomorrow I think I'll go pickup 2x 2GB of RAM for my Macbook Pro. yup
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 11:22pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well that (upgrading to Leopard) was worth it for the tabbed Terminal alone.

About damn time!
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Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 1:19amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
worth it for the tabbed Terminal alone.

About damn time!


Shit. Never tried that. Uber cool.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 11:36amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Oh and my mapped network drives don't get disconnected every time I put the OS to sleep anymore either... Which is nice. Smiley
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Posted: 24 Apr 2008, 10:04pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
a bit random question; but...

I can't figure out how to uninstall Call Of Duty 2 for mac from my mac, seriously, I could delete it but was just curious If anyone knew.

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Posted: 24 Apr 2008, 10:15pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
if there isn't an unistaller pretty much just drag COD to the trash and empty it then use spotlight to search for call of duty files and delete whatever you find
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Posted: 25 Apr 2008, 1:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
whats the best way to buy a mac, online or from a store?

Thx
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Posted: 25 Apr 2008, 1:14pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
From an online store that isn't apple.com.au...

Like streetwise.com.au or buymac.com.au

IMO.
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Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 11:59amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
a bit random question; but...

I can't figure out how to uninstall Call Of Duty 2 for mac from my mac, seriously, I could delete it but was just curious If anyone knew.

search for this thing called AppZapper and give that a go
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 12:12amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
For those who spend most of their day in Terminal, someone was nice enough to come up with an answer to the awful colour palette:

Customising Colours in Leopard Terminal

And for those not already using color ls, add these lines to your ~/.profile:

Code:
alias ls='/bin/ls -G'
export LSCOLORS=exfxcxdxbxegedabagacad

To have this colour change take effect, quit and restart Terminal, or run the following command:

.~/.profile

You will now have a color ls  Smiley

search for this thing called AppZapper and give that a go

I use AppCleaner but each to their own.
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 1:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hehe... I use Terminal a lot but only on remote servers (ie. not my local Mac). I didn't even realise now that ls didn't return colour locally - it does when I do it via SSH on all my servers...
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 4:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
whats the best way to buy a mac, online or from a store?


interest free from jb's. was in there 2nite and they've got black 13" macbooks for 2099, compared to 2199 just about everywhere else
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 7:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

interest free from jb's. was in there 2nite and they've got black 13" macbooks for 2099, compared to 2199 just about everywhere else

What? You mean this one:
http://www.buymac.com.au/product/apple-macbook-13-macbook-intel-core-2-duo-24ghz-black-new-model

Or this one?
http://www.streetwise.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=25_205&products_id=6183

No such thing as "interest free". The interest is bundled into the price somewhere. Pay up front and you'll always get a better price than if it's financed by someone else... Smiley
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 7:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
looking at imac's, the net (macbuy, streetwise) sites are a little more expensive but free ram upgrade so a little in front.  One of them gave free shipping tho.  JBs were going to give a nice discount tho...  Prob go the net sites with the upgrade.  Note: the mac isnt for me, my $420 dual core intel will have to do for a little while longer yet. 
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 7:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
If you don't want to order online and JB only offer some "interest free" package but you have cash, I'd just try going in there with cash and trying to get a discount if you can pay upfront... I'd expect them to match the prices of the online retailers I mentioned. I don't know how long their interest free periods are but $50 doesn't last long if they have to finance the purchase considering interest rates at the moment.
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Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 10:15amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
New imac came out this morning and another price drop! Woot woot! 

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Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 1:12pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Cool, good news.  Faster cpu, 1066MHz FSB & DDR800 RAM for less than the previous model. 
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Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 2:59pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

interest free from jb's. was in there 2nite and they've got black 13" macbooks for 2099, compared to 2199 just about everywhere else

Who is the interest free though? I have an empty GE Creditline account that I'd like to use and I only need it for a couple of weeks until work reinburses me the purchase price though salary sacrifice. Problem is I have to buy it first and I don't want to use my savings.
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Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 5:42pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I bought mine from Derringers using my GE account. Don't know if that helps.
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Posted: 1 May 2008, 10:41pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yeah they did... have a black macbook with 4GB of RAM in front of me right now.

Huge discount too... ended up being $2050 with the RAM upgrade.
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Posted: 1 May 2008, 11:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
$2050 with the RAM upgrade.

Fuck me, I should have saved up for a while longer.
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Posted: 1 May 2008, 11:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Leopard sucks at working smoothly with SMB shares. I am encountering a bunch of random bugs that are mentioned over and over on forums and on Apple support discussions, but nobody seems to be able to fix them. icon_cry

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Posted: 1 May 2008, 11:32pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yeah they did... have a black macbook with 4GB of RAM in front of me right now.

Huge discount too... ended up being $2050 with the RAM upgrade.

thats crazy, such a good price
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Posted: 3 May 2008, 11:34amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Who is the interest free though? I have an empty GE Creditline account that I'd like to use and I only need it for a couple of weeks until work reinburses me the purchase price though salary sacrifice. Problem is I have to buy it first and I don't want to use my savings.

With JB the intrest free is through GE if you already have an account with them, but if you don't have an account with GE then they do it through HSBC. That's what they told me when I bought my imac. The intrest free is for 12 months. I didn't get any discount, but they gave me a Protection Plan for free (normally worth ~$200), so that was alright.
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Posted: 3 May 2008, 3:36pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
With JB the intrest free is through GE if you already have an account with them, but if you don't have an account with GE then they do it through HSBC. That's what they told me when I bought my imac. The intrest free is for 12 months. I didn't get any discount, but they gave me a Protection Plan for free (normally worth ~$200), so that was alright.

i got mine thru HSBC @ JB's. they said if i buy an extended warranty, which i did, they'd extend the interest free to 24 months. 2199 for the macbook + 419 for the applecare 3yr extended warranty = $2618
2618 / 104 weeks (2yrs) = $25.18 p/week = Fuck all for a macbook

oh, theres a $59 per annum fee on the account, which pretty much the going rate for a credit card account fee these days anyway.

No such thing as "interest free". The interest is bundled into the price somewhere. Pay up front and you'll always get a better price than if it's financed by someone else... Smiley

im pretty sure there is such a thing as interest free. the only thing extra that im pay is $118 for two yrs worth of fees for the card. fair enough you may get it a little cheaper if you pay for it up front buy you dont need $2500 upfront
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Posted: 3 May 2008, 4:31pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
No such thing as "interest free". The interest is bundled into the price somewhere. Pay up front and you'll always get a better price than if it's financed by someone else... Smiley

Nah there is... GE creditline is a great way to have things you want now if its used correctly. I recently bought (and payed off) my couch and a $1000 set of tyres for my car and payed no more than the $2.95 a month they charge to send out your statement.

I believe their business model is based on the fact there are enough people stupid enough to not pay off their purchase within the interest free period. They think deferred payment means not paying it, when the interest free period is over GE back-charge you the interest over the entire period of the loan at their quite reasonable interest rate of 28.99%. Then your fucked!

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Posted: 3 May 2008, 5:31pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Leopard sucks at working smoothly with SMB shares. I am encountering a bunch of random bugs that are mentioned over and over on forums and on Apple support discussions, but nobody seems to be able to fix them. icon_cry

</end rant>

indeed apple seem to be selectively deaf to the resounding cries of FTFF, or 'fix the fucking finder', the stupid gits haven't done a lot since 10.3 as far as i can tell.  there were a few things with 10.4 and leopard is half fixed, ala sleep not booting shares etc. but it still freaks out when you wake up and the networks gone, among other things as you've identified...  is a complete joke really considering how far the rest of the OS has come.  maybe they want people to have just a little bit of trouble talking to windows boxes ;p

the only thing i have thought of but have been too lazy to investigate is trying a 3rd party network browser app (like an ftp program kinda thing for smp).  i would think such a thing might exist and might do correctly what finder doesn't but i don't really know as like i said i've been too lazy to look teef
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Posted: 3 May 2008, 7:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
indeed apple seem to be selectively deaf to the resounding cries of FTFF, or 'fix the fucking finder', the stupid gits haven't done a lot since 10.3 as far as i can tell.  there were a few things with 10.4 and leopard is half fixed, ala sleep not booting shares etc. but it still freaks out when you wake up and the networks gone, among other things as you've identified...  is a complete joke really considering how far the rest of the OS has come.  maybe they want people to have just a little bit of trouble talking to windows boxes ;p

I'm only talking to Linux boxes and the bugs are super random anyway - for example after waking from sleep I can access shares on two of my Linux boxes but not the third... icon_cry
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Posted: 4 May 2008, 6:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The one thing that needs to be addressed in OSX is built-in full read/write/permissions support for NTFS partitions. I realise that you can achieve this with MacFUSE + ntfs-3g, but IMO this method is fickle and I would prefer to have this feature out of the box. To resolve this I am simply going to convert all my hard drives to MacOS Extended and use MacDrive to access them in M$ world.
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Posted: 4 May 2008, 6:43pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Why don't you just network systems that need to share data? Or are they in different locations?

I'd trust HFS+ over NTFS any day... Smiley
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Posted: 11 May 2008, 11:48pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Why don't you just network systems that need to share data? Or are they in different locations?

I'd trust HFS+ over NTFS any day... Smiley

They're on the same computer

*edit* I discovered Paragon NTFS which I can highly recommend. It just works.

At least I can start juggling data between drives so I can eventually migrate all to HFS+.
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Posted: 12 May 2008, 6:53pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Get my Brand new Macbook Pro 2.4 in 3 days!!! woot woot
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Posted: 16 May 2008, 5:56pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Get my Brand new Macbook Pro 2.4 in 3 days!!! woot woot

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Posted: 16 May 2008, 7:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Top up your Macs with memory guys. I reckon memory upgrades are an even more obvious upgrade in Macs than in PCs. OSX handles it better IMO.

Upgraded to 4GB in my Macbook Pro a few weeks ago, well worth it! Smiley Especially now that memory costs bugger all...
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Posted: 16 May 2008, 9:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sure does.  in my experience 2gb is very worthwhile if you do any level of multitasking, even just if it means running ichat/mail/safari/adium/itunes/something.  i'm missing my third gigabyte but not everyone needs it... i guess four would be nice Tongue as long as you always have half a gig free i'm still not convinced you get alot out of having more spare, guess it depends what you're doing.  obviously if you're running something like logic or final cut more is more regardless.
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Posted: 16 May 2008, 9:36pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
For me the most noticeable increase in performance is when running Aperture (Apple's photo management and editing tool). Working with large files out of a digital SLR is pretty demanding on memory. Would be nice to have an 8 core Mac Pro with more RAM again... Sometime down the track. icon_wink
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 2:20amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
my baby is over 2 yrs old and the left fan has stopped working, battery is on the way out and the magsafe cable has looked better. icon_cry
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 10:02amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
my baby is over 2 yrs old and the left fan has stopped working, battery is on the way out and the magsafe cable has looked better. icon_cry

wow.. u must have bought the first Macbook pro released?

my last Mac was the last Powerbook before it all changed to Intel.... boy did i feel ripped off lol.

The lowest of the range mac book pro ships with 2GB ram yay  biggrin

any yes Pat... Full Logic for $400 as an upgrade from express booooyahhhhh!!!

hopefully i get it on Monday as i was expecting it yesterday...
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:11amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
my baby is over 2 yrs old and the left fan has stopped working, battery is on the way out and the magsafe cable has looked better. icon_cry

Apart from the fan not working I guess if everything else is going OK you can probably keep using it for another 2 years provided you're OK with replacing the battery and power cable.

Does it overheat and crash sometimes or does one fan not working just mean that the other one (at the rear I think) go like crazy when you put the system under load?
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:18amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
umm think it was the first revision of the core duos

it doesn't overheat and crash, but yeah, the right fan gets moving when i'm playing games for example
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:20amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Actually my question was a bit silly... The fan(s) get going anytime you put some load on the MBP's... At least mine do when encoding videos, processing photos, etc...
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:42amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
has anyones Powerbooks or MacBookPros ever just gone into sleep mode even though your in the middle of doing stuff like web browsing or recording audio?

my old powerbook started doing this.. but also desperately needed a new battery too so i wasn't sure if the two were connected in any way... i used to have to leave it plugged into the wall permanently or it would die in 5 mins flat if not plugged in...

Bring on the newer faster better one next week yay  Smiley
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:44amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Did that only happen when you were running off the battery?
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:47amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
nope... that was the really shitty part!! couldnt trust it to record Dj sets after it did that a few times... no matter what the settings were or if it was plugged in or not......
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:53amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Damn, that sucks. I am not sure... I'd suggest you go ask at mactalk.com.au or some other mac-specific forums. There are a ton of very experienced users on mactalk at least and in the few cases where I've needed help that's where I've got it! Smiley
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 11:57amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
cheers for the tip... will come in handy on the MBP next week! as for the old Powerbook... it drank a cup of coffee and didnt feel so good... The repairer quoted $5k lol... lucky it was insured hey!  teef
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 12:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Haha.

I worked with a guy who had an old 17" Powerbook. I can't remember how old it was but it was the most beaten Mac I had ever seen. He'd spilt water on it (not enough to kill it), lost a few keys, dropped it many times, and just in general thrashed it... When he adjusted the angle of the LCD the whole screen would flicker on and off. The corners of the thing looked like they'd had a hammer smashed against them dozens of times. :o

Amazing how tough they really are if you can manage to avoid giving them anything to drink...
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Posted: 17 May 2008, 8:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
cheers for the tip... will come in handy on the MBP next week! as for the old Powerbook... it drank a cup of coffee and didnt feel so good... The repairer quoted $5k lol... lucky it was insured hey!  teef

what sort of insurance covered that?
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 1:45pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
probably a faulty sensor in the clamshell (sleep when lid closed)

you can get some kind of firmware hack to stop that happening, don't ask me to find it for you tho teef
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 5:48pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Where'd you get your insurance from?

Also, do you guys have extended Apple Care warranty? I purchased my Macbook Pro late last year and although I haven't had any problems I am considering getting AppleCare because I use my MBP heavily for work and any extended problems would cost me a bit in terms of loss of productivity...
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Posted: 18 May 2008, 7:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Where'd you get your insurance from?


Mines through CGU Insurance  Smiley
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Posted: 20 May 2008, 9:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
any extended problems would cost me a bit in terms of loss of productivity...

unfortunately applecare won't save you any time if you have a fault, only money.  apple's warranty turnaround is fairly woeful at least as serviced by the local stooges at next byte and "mac 'n' pod".
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Posted: 20 May 2008, 9:46pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hmm OK. Well if I have major problems then I'll be better off just buying another cheap laptop to use temporarily. At least I know if something dies completely I could get a cheap Dell laptop and have it within a week...
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 6:14pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
unfortunately applecare won't save you any time if you have a fault, only money.  apple's warranty turnaround is fairly woeful at least as serviced by the local stooges at next byte and "mac 'n' pod".

Denis ( the Mac daddy)  @ Av Central Stepney is a gun... I used to work with him.. he was pretty efficient with repairs and knows everything about macs!
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 7:46pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
interesting... i didn't think there were any smaller guys who were certified for warranty shiz... often it's not worth their while as apple pay them fuck all to do it for them... if you can confirm that he does then that's good to know
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 8:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Denis was the head Apple tech @ Microbits which used to be next door to AV Central... I know he was gold level technician or some shit... Its who id take my Mac to if something went wrong.. but thats me  Smiley
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 9:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
are you sure he can service the warranty on apple's behalf though? they don't let just anyone do it, normally they leave it to the bigger resellers
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Posted: 21 May 2008, 11:02pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Denis was the head Apple tech @ Microbits which used to be next door to AV Central

Wonder if it was the same Dennis at Microbits when I worked there in 2001. Probably not because the person who I'm referring to was PC production manager, was an old fucktard and belongs to be dead in a hole if it is.

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Posted: 22 May 2008, 6:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Got some questions for the Mac fiends here. This is purely hypothetical at this stage, but I'm looking at getting a Mac (either Laptop or Mini) for using programs such as Ableton and Logic. That's about it really. Initially I'm looking into the using Live for DJing side of things, but will also be interested in doing recording etc. at a later date.

What would you recommend? I hooked past the apple store today and got some prices, but was wondering how upgradeable they are. For example the Mac Mini SuperDrive thing. As it initially only has 2.0GHz Processor and 1 gig of ram can these be upgraded easily and economically? Say for example I was DJing with Live on the Mini, I'd obviously need a fairly large amount of CPU power happening, unless I had some kind of soundcard or something helping me out. (Any recommendations to what would be good and portable here would be welcome as well. Been out of the game for too long).

When it comes to the MacBook I'm not really sure as they seem so bloody expensive. I'm not sure what I'd want here, as I don't really know how much CPU I'd be using and would need but once again any recommendations would be welcome. Cheers.
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 6:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
are you sure he can service the warranty on apple's behalf though? they don't let just anyone do it, normally they leave it to the bigger resellers

um not sure.. he used to handle all warranty work @ Microbits for apple so he wouldnt be any less qualified jsut for changing companies... either way.. u could call him @ AV central if you needed..

& Mylo.. not sure... I was only@ microbits for the last 11 months they were alive... his last name is Byron.. i know that much..  Smiley

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Posted: 22 May 2008, 7:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Say for example I was DJing with Live on the Mini, I'd obviously need a fairly large amount of CPU power happening, unless I had some kind of soundcard or something helping me out. (Any recommendations to what would be good and portable here would be welcome as well. Been out of the game for too long).

Put it this way - I have a 12" iBook G4 1GHz 768MB w/ Leopard 10.5.2 that runs Serato. No fucking worries.

A Core2Duo 2GHz is still quick, don't let the clockspeed fool you. But also make sure you have at least 2GB to keep it happy. Any current MacBook or MacBook Pro will be adequate CPU-wise.

Oh, and I'd also like to add that My Core2Duo 2.66GHz Hackintosh is a monster that fails to rest.  Smiley

& Mylo.. not sure... I was only@ microbits for the last 11 months they were alive... his last name is Byron.. i know that much..  Smiley

Ahh.. Another ex-Mentiplay worker  laugh I'm pretty sure his last name was Kelly.
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 7:22pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
natho it really depends on your budget. If you can afford a Macbook Pro instead of a Macbook or an iMac instead of a Mac Mini then obviously that'll be more powerful and last you longer. Upgrading CPUs is basically not possible after you've purchased any Mac. You either upgrade it when you buy it (and pay a pretty unreasonable premium I think). Upgrading RAM and hard drives after purchase on the other hand, is easy. The higher end machines will also have more upgradeability. As far as upgradeability goes the Mac Mini is probably the worst choice out of the whole Apple range, IMO.

I don't know much about the audio stuff but I'm pretty sure anyone getting into it seriously gets an external sound card of some sort. Hopefully someone else who does that kind of work on a regular basis can help you out there. Smiley

Edit: natho since you said you reckon the Macbook's look expensive, and mylo's said his old (and much much less powerful G4) can run the Serato software (which I'm presuming you want to run as well) without any problems you might want to look for a second hand Macbook. Over at mactalk.com.au and other forums/eBay there are plenty of people upgrading all the time who are selling off systems that aren't all that old and would probably do the job you want fine. Second hand's always good if you're on a budget. Smiley
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 8:00pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
As far as upgradeability goes the Mac Mini is probably the worst choice out of the whole Apple range, IMO.

amen.  go the macbook... they're too good... and for that reason i don't think they're so expensive... imo they have a number of advantages over the pro's, and if you don't want to game or draw 3d shit then you don't "really" need the graphics card... another 2" of screen might be nice but i'm pretty happy with 13" having come from a 4x3 12" previously.  you can still run 1920x1200 on a second display...

 second hand macbook is fine as long as it has some warranty and is a core 2 duo (don't get a core duo), and interest free is always available if you want & can't afford a new one if you have a steady income.  as much as i'm against credit-mongering i'm also crap at saving and $60 + missing out on saving $50 to me is worth having 12 or 24 months to pay for something i can use now...

you can easily upgrade the hard drive and ram in a macbook also, so don't worry about that when you're looking at what to get.  it's mostly whether you want a superdrive...

darren kelly eh... i know that guy... company called voice? one of my client used to use him but took up my services as would never return their calls laugh

myles/batch: i'm pretty sure AV central dude won't be able to do warranty stuff... the certification doesn't mean shit if you're not working for an authorised service centre or whatever they call it these days ... sucks but that's Apple AU
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Posted: 22 May 2008, 10:32pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i am very happy with my core 2 duo 2 gig ram 13" black book.
i must say im a little bit over the small screen now that im home from my travels and i miss my widescreen lcd that i used to plug into it.
im using it to run logic 8 and i havent had a problem yet, and running serato and recording at the same time has been seamless.
lookin forward to getting an imac or hackintosh for home use soon tho for sure
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Posted: 30 May 2008, 5:43amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
As a new Mac user I have a simple question. Is there a program for opening .rar files?
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Posted: 30 May 2008, 7:51amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
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Posted: 31 May 2008, 4:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
stuffit expander does all that shit for me
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Posted: 1 Jun 2008, 2:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
unrarx sometimes works when stuffit don't... with passwords and split archives n shit
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Posted: 12 Jun 2008, 6:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yes yes.. lovin the new 20inch imac sittin on the desk.. boh!
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Posted: 12 Jun 2008, 7:45pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
what happened to the hackintosh mate?
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Posted: 12 Jun 2008, 7:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
So who's buying an iPhone? icon_wink
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Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 11:19amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
what happened to the hackintosh mate?

insurance came thru so i thought i might as well get a real one:)
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Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 10:03pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im just reinstalling osx now... i tried to do the migration from the lappy to the imac.. let me just say i think you're better off putting everything back on one by one.

anyone else had problems with plugins etc etc not working?
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Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 1:01pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
serious? migration assistant is the best thing ever.... i went from a G4 to a core2duo and every single one of my apps worked flawlessly from the first moment, i had the same desktop pic, dock icons, everything from my hard drive was where i left it on the old machine.  done it for countless others aswell...

what went wrong?
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Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 1:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Another question for the MAC headz. Think I've decided on either the Macbook 13" 2.1ghz core 2 duo, or the 2.4ghz. Besides the difference in CPU, I the other has more RAM and a bigger hard drive, which I'm not really concerned about, but what is the difference between the combo drive and the double layer super drive? Is this difference really worth the price difference?
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Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 1:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
So not really worth the extra money then. Cheers.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 2:15pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
serious? migration assistant is the best thing ever...

what went wrong?

it was taking so long, it timed out a few times, and some files could not be copied for some reason.
seriously it was taking for fukn ever.  i ended up starting from scratch and just copying what i want manually over on target disk mode. weird it copied fast like that but the assistant was at ketamine speed.


in other news, the beast rocks with logic...smashed out the first new effort with traktion this morning. sounds mad
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Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 2:31pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Good mac sites...

Some of you may know em

http://brokenstones.cn
www.codez4mac.com - Forum
www.macserialjunkie.com - Forum
www.mac-bb.org - Forum

www.netkas.org - OSX86 development
www.insanelymac.com - OSX86 development
http://www.efi-x.com/ - USB EFI emulator so you can install using a retail DVD from the Apple Store with no extra config on a generic piece of poo.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 11:07pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i bought my black macbook at the start of last year. it came with 1GB ram, but i upgraded it to 2GB myself. cost me less than $60. i love my macbook because it is
fast
reliable
portable
the OS is neat, not cluttered, and easy to use.
and it's sexy looking, lol.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 11:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i love my macbook because it is
fast
reliable
portable
the OS is neat, not cluttered, and easy to use.
and it's sexy looking, lol.


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Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 11:43pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Oh my the Mac Pro looks dangerous to my bank account... Tower of 8 core Power... boh

Might think about getting one later this year.  biggrin
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Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 11:56pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yes yes.. lovin the new 20inch imac sittin on the desk.. boh!
laugh
yeah ?.. how you gonna take that to the gig!!!

at least you happy bro !!
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Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 12:55amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Oh my the Mac Pro looks dangerous to my bank account... Tower of 8 core Power... boh

Might think about getting one later this year.  biggrin

I'd love to get one!

Just out of curiosity, I maxed out the specs to see what I would get, check it!

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Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB (Stereo 3D, two dual-link DVI)
AirPort Extreme card (Wi-Fi)
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
32GB (8 x 4GB)
Apple Wireless Keyboard
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
Country Kit
Two 16x SuperDrives
Quad Channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express Card
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
Mac Pro RAID Card

 laugh

32 gig of RAM! 1.2 TB of 15000rpm hdd in a raid array!

I wish I was rich. Not sure what anyone could possibly ever use this for, but it's fucking awesome. Even if it it is $35,000. Free shipping though, which is nice.
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Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 7:06amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
laugh

What can I say... Ouch.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 6:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Got my MacBook!

This thing is fucking amazing. Already in love with it. The only question I have is if I want to plug a mouse in, will a normal mouse suffice? Or do I need a special Mac Mouse?
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 6:13pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
normal mouse is fine, i've just got a logitech thing, right clicks like normal, scrolls, etc
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 7:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Mine doesn't seem to be working. Besides plugging it in is there any other configuration required?

Also say if I want to torrent a large program. logic studio 8 I'm using Transmission as my torrent program, but of programs of larges sizes what is the actual process used to install it? If it's an ISO what's a good ISO undoer program to use? Would it be as simple as the usual process of the dmg(?) thing for normal programs? Dubbd you might know something about this, I think I remember you saying something about using this program.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 7:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
get yourself Toast Titanium. its the nero of mac.
you can right click iso's and mount them after you install it
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Posted: 18 Jul 2008, 8:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Cheers I'll give it a go. I'm hoping that this bloody torrent works. I won't be happy if I torrent 6gig of stuff which wont work.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 9:19amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Mine doesn't seem to be working. Besides plugging it in is there any other configuration required?

Also say if I want to torrent a large program. logic studio 8 I'm using Transmission as my torrent program, but of programs of larges sizes what is the actual process used to install it? If it's an ISO what's a good ISO undoer program to use? Would it be as simple as the usual process of the dmg(?) thing for normal programs? Dubbd you might know something about this, I think I remember you saying something about using this program.


BTW, I wouldnt use Transmission. Its been banned by a few torrent sites (ie, demonoid). You will find that it wont work half the time. I just use Bit Torrent, seems to work a treat.
oh, and Toast rocks!


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Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:29amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I couldn't find any good torrent clients for Mac which weren't blocked on the sites I use. I use rtorrent from my Linux box instead... That way I can leave it running 24/7 since I move my Mac around a bit anyway.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:35amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I might have to give this linux stuff a go soon. From my understanding you can run some kind of emulation program on the mac using linux programs? Only know from the few bits of information I have gleamed from websites.

I was a bit annoyed to find out my copy of Pro Tools (ver 7.3) doesn't work on Leopard. I have worked out now that it works fine as long as you delete the rewire plugin though.

Also having a lot of trouble getting Ableton Live to work. I upgraded my copy of Live lite ver 6 to ver7, but the program still refuses to load.

Cheers for the tip with Transmission. I don't do much torrenting here because the internet is so crap, but when I move somewhere else I will change it. All I really needed was Photoshop.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:49amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Darwinports it's called...

I've had a little attempt at it and found it to be a bitch. I wouldn't bother.

If you want to give any linux stuff a go just find any old computer and load it up there to play around on. Or buy one of those cheap ultra portables like the eeePC or the MSI Wind or something useful like that. Smiley
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Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:52amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Na it's all good. I only wanted to try it to see if I could port programs across. I'd have considered bootcamp, but this HD is only 120gig so it's not really worth it. I also don't think I have a Windows XP CD which is service pack 2 styles. I probably shouldn't be stuffing around to much seeing as this is for uni work mainly. Just need to get the 48gig Logic Studio download happening and I'll be stoked.  teef
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Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 3:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hey guize I was just wondering if anyone knows what the area on a mac where the widgets are kept is called? Just always wondered that's all.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 4:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Dashboard
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Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 1:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Can anyone recommend me a good dashboard widget for getting RSS feeds from News.com.au?
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Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 3:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hey guize I was just wondering if anyone knows what the area on a mac where the widgets are kept is called? Just always wondered that's all.

/Library/Widgets

/<yourhomefolder>/Library/Widgets

depending on whether you chose to install for all users or not

EDIT: just realised i have no fucking idea what you're actually getting at... nevermind teef
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Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 7:17pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
haha good work leezee  laugh
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Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 3:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'm probably really pushing the boundries of what is possible here, but I have a heap of games from my old LCII Apple Mac from the early 90's, and was wondering if there is any way at all to port these to my MacBook? I've searched around on the net, and most of these games only have one or two mentions back from 1994 let alone anything from the last 10 years. To be more specific I want to play U-Boat and Spaceway 2000. I should really get around to pulling the old mac down from the cupboard and setting it up again though...
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Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 3:39pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OSX did support 'Classic' apps if you copied the System Folder from an OS9 install, but it was dropped in Leopard

I'm sure there are other emulators around
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Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 3:53pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I think I found a decent emulator, but I just realised a major flaw in my plan. Getting the games off the original floppy disks. (These can't be read on windows computers as far as I know)
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Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 3:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I used to have a DOS app that could read Mac disks so there must be one for Windows.

A USB floppy drive is handy for Macs  teef
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Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 7:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
unstickied - keep it bumped if you need to make any mac related posts
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 10:03pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

 Getting fuckin sick of iTunes trying to install Safari every second day.

 
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 10:11pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Why not just let it install it then? It's not like you have to use it. Tongue
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 10:14amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I finally did it, brought an imac on ebay last night.  2.16GHz, 20" for a grand.  Expensive just to run logic, but i reckon it'll be worth it. 

Now... I need to organise an audio interface, should i go firewire or usb?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 10:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
IMO there's not a huge difference between USB2.0 and Firewire, especially if it's just a basic 2 input audio interface. Go the Mbox 2. Well worth the 800 or so dollars seeing as you get pro tools, ableton and a heap of other great plugins. If you don't want to fork out that much you can get other cheaper versions of it as well.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 12:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I vote firewire because:

a) Firewire bus under load does not put as much load onto the computers CPU
b) USB bandwidth is shared over all devices and you're more likely to have more than one USB device than you are Firewire
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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 8:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Thanks Oli, Im leaning towards a Focusrite saffire which is firewire.  Not gonna go the Mbox Natho, pro tools is just a fad...

Check this, $299US (ie $299.01Aust) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/379066-REG/Focusrite_SAFFIRE_Saffire_Audio_Interface.html

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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 11:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I finally did it, brought an imac on ebay last night.  2.16GHz, 20" for a grand. 

get out of my house!! 









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Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 3:43amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Posting from my new mac right now.

Only cost me $60 though.

Can't really see what's so great about it yet?

It "just works" though, which is nice.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 9:01amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sound card support yet?  Whats the update mate...
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 2:09pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Welcome to the darkside Roost.

Thanks Oli, Im leaning towards a Focusrite saffire which is firewire.  Not gonna go the Mbox Natho, pro tools is just a fad...

Check this, $299US (ie $299.01Aust) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/379066-REG/Focusrite_SAFFIRE_Saffire_Audio_Interface.html

*hugs internet*

Yep, thats what I'm after. Let me know if you find a reliable USA seller and I'll get one also.

BTW FireWire has MAJOR advantages over USB2.0 - use it whenever possible.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 3:00pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Will do, planning to order it tonight.  I have brought from them successfully on a couple of occasions.  Postage insurance will be going on this one though, it's going to be large.

ps leezee, logic 8 on the way to you soon...
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 4:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sound card support yet?  Whats the update mate...

No not yet but I can get the on board to work for the time being (with a bit of effort) just to check everything.

Update: Seems cool, everything seems to work but I can't get the comp to boot from the other drive with both plugged in... It's weird... My monitor refresh rate looks a bit low and I can't change it, but I may have a fix for that... Other than that it's a mac! Yessss. Already got logic, but haven't installed it yet... Will fix other problems first.

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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 2:39pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Linux is designed for people who like to build their own TVs from scratch.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 2:53pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I don't have a TV and never built one from scratch. Blank

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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 4:25pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
It's what makes the world (or at least the Internet) go round. icon_biggrin

chyea, that and cisco IOS, and cisco IOS is the most retarded bullshit i've ever come across in my entire life...

Linux is designed for people who like to build their own TVs from scratch.

laugh that's a good one

if you are willing to invest or happen to have invested enough of your life in becoming familiar with a command line operating system then it generally achieves the same results, but it's important to be able to recognise when technology is wasting your time.  i certainly appreciate being able to use a gui for most of my day to day shit...
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 5:16pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Each OS has it's own niche/speciality. I'd never run Linux as a desktop machine but I'd never run anything else as a server either.

I look at it this way:
Windows = games.
Mac = daily work.
Linux = servers.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 5:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
considering the cost, and despite all it's shortcomings, I think OSX server is a fucking awesome alternative to having to configure the same functionality for SMB type shit on a linux box...  you can generally always do what you could do with the alternative if you delve beyond the server admin gui also

also launchd can be quite powerful in the context of a server environment so that's another quasi advantage to rocking darwin now...

don't get me wrong... 10.5 server is still full of holes, hopefully 10.6 steps it up considerably...
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 6:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
considering the cost, and despite all it's shortcomings, I think OSX server is a fucking awesome alternative to having to configure the same functionality for SMB type shit on a linux box...  you can generally always do what you could do with the alternative if you delve beyond the server admin gui also

also launchd can be quite powerful in the context of a server environment so that's another quasi advantage to rocking darwin now...

don't get me wrong... 10.5 server is still full of holes, hopefully 10.6 steps it up considerably...

If you need a point and click server it's nice I guess. Hopefully anyone buying OSX server isn't just going to use it for SMB anyway. If it's an Apple network then AFP would be the go.

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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 6:49pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The biggest hole is the one left in your pocket when you've bought it.

Like any other product Apple ever makes I guess.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 7:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sorry by smb i mean small to medium business, not cifs laugh

yes and no on price.  depends what you're using it for... most of the workgroup type deployment scenarios that demand a mac or windows gui for end users make the use of linux servers far less economical due to the amount of specialist configuration required to emulate the out of box integration you would get simply by using the same brand of server software... then compared to windows the software saving with a mac environment can start to outweight the difference in hardware pricing, and it gets silly once you thoroughly calculate the TCO... once again depends what you need to do with it innit.  it's not overpriced for what it does compared to the other choices in the market.

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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 9:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sorry by smb i mean small to medium business, not cifs laugh

OK. Ignore what I said then.

yes and no on price.  depends what you're using it for... most of the workgroup type deployment scenarios that demand a mac or windows gui for end users make the use of linux servers far less economical due to the amount of specialist configuration required to emulate the out of box integration you would get simply by using the same brand of server software... then compared to windows the software saving with a mac environment can start to outweight the difference in hardware pricing, and it gets silly once you thoroughly calculate the TCO... once again depends what you need to do with it innit.  it's not overpriced for what it does compared to the other choices in the market.



Could argue about that forever probably. I don't really care what people do as long as they don't follow <insert thing here> so blindly that they ignore that whatever alternatives exist. Smiley
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 9:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Could argue about that forever probably. I don't really care what people do as long as they don't follow <insert thing here> so blindly that they ignore that whatever alternatives exist. Smiley

what, you don't want to argue about that forever??? teef

nah couldn't agree more
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 9:43pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
laugh you're game, i'd have to say that would be my least favourite argument to have of any topic at all.  maybe i'll start a thread on israel instead...
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Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 2:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
looks like vuze doesn't work under 10.6, the program opens but nothing d/ls or u/ls... didn't notice straight away and now i've missed out on 3-4 days of seeding icon_cry
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Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 3:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah transmission gets no love from a lot of the private trackers icon_cry

will have to wait for what to come back up so i can see what is actually on their list
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Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 3:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
looks like vuze doesn't work under 10.6, the program opens but nothing d/ls or u/ls... didn't notice straight away and now i've missed out on 3-4 days of seeding icon_cry

I noticed that with Vuze. It actually seemed to cause my computer to crash out as well (when it was open other programs wouldn't open.) Moved back to UTorrent and it's working perfectly.
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Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 6:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yeah transmission gets no love from a lot of the private trackers icon_cry

will have to wait for what to come back up so i can see what is actually on their list

what private trackers? i've gone back to transmission and haven't had any problems. i just use vuze to stream to the ps3
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Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 1:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im having a shitty problem now.

i've just bought a new external drive and i have 3 partitions on it. 
the first is a FAT32 partition so i could use some of it with our windows pc and the wii.
the second is in htfs as is the third one.
now they all show up on the mac perfectly, but i just went to plug it into the pc and it doesn't come up in my computer.
i expected this to happen with the 2 mac partitions but not with the windows one..
what the fuck do i do now, i cant format is cos i have my whole mac backed up on there.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 1:07pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anyone know any issues with running snow leopard with Logic 8? Im thinking of installing stalling it. Does it run better, slower, anyone have it running?
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 1:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I don't know how good it would be yet. I read on a forum (think it was Gearslutz) that someone had it working but they hadn't tried recording etc. yet. You will probably have issues with plugins though.

Might even be better to try Logic 9 maybe.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 1:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well I love OSX and will never go back to Windows. Apple hardware looks great and is built better from an external point of view. But I have concluded that the internals are no more reliable than any other computer. This is not exactly surprising to me having worked/played with and interested in computers for well over a decade but I am just venting now because my Macbook Pro has died again.

10 months after I bought it the logic board failed completely and the system would not boot. Replaced under warranty and paid $150 priority service at Nextbyte so that I'd get it back sooner. Got it back in 26 hours. Apparently a common issue with my model.

Bought extended 3 year Apple Care after owning it for 11 months after hearing how much service out of warranty costs.

25 months after purchase a fan bearing dies. Replaced under warranty/AppleCare. Paid $175 for priority service and got it back in 24 hours or so.

26 months after purchase (today) video chip dies and no display works. I drop it off again at Nextbyte and pay $150 for priority service. They reduced the price for me because I am such a great customer - or cause they felt sorry for me coming in so soon after the last service... Also a common/well known issue.

I hope I get it back tomorrow. The replacement parts come from Sydney.  Apparently the official Apple store has replacement parts for basically every Apple product and they do all service work on the spot with no "priority service" fees. Next time I have issues if I have time (unlikely) I'll make it a day trip to Sydney and get it replaced there. Probably wouldn't cost much more than $175 return and it'd make a nice day out.  laugh

If anything this is good for Apple because I will end up buying another Macbook Pro or iMac so I always have two Macs to use...  Face Palm

In the mean time I sit here doing very little without my MBP and rely on my eeePC with my beautiful 30" panel (which doesn't work with the eeePC of course) reminding me how much I rely on a single computer...

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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 2:30pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I don't know how good it would be yet. I read on a forum (think it was Gearslutz) that someone had it working but they hadn't tried recording etc. yet. You will probably have issues with plugins though.

Might even be better to try Logic 9 maybe.

I just pre ordered the Upgrade for $39..thats cheap!

I'm hoping it wont be an issue and that my Motu Traveller and Midi controllers will work. Got a shit load of plugins too. Might just have to give it a try. If not, Back to Leopard. Seems to be working ok for me now anyways.

Sorry to hear that Oli. Don't mean to rub it in but Ive never had any issues with my mac have had it over a year now and has been serving me pretty well. Haven't really heard anyone I know with a mac experience any major issues like you are having either. You must have got a dud. Maybe fell of the back of a truck literally and put back in to be sold to you.  teef
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 2:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
How much is yours used though?

Mine runs 24/7 and has a fair bit of travel behind it (had a few minor drops/bumps but nothing really serious).
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 2:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I just pre ordered the Upgrade for $39..thats cheap!

I'm hoping it wont be an issue and that my Motu Traveller and Midi controllers will work. Got a shit load of plugins too. Might just have to give it a try. If not, Back to Leopard. Seems to be working ok for me now anyways.

I daresay they wouldn't give me an upgrade teef

Another problem is I use an MBox. Seeing as they barely released drives for Leopard I doubt they will at all for Snow Leopard. An audio interface is definitely something that might not work though.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 3:43pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
It's mostly luck.  Made by the same company that makes all the other shit but just to a better standard, or at least that's what's in the contract.  The built quality is second to none but the internal parts are using the same chipsets etc. as high end Wintel boxes and just as prone to failure.  Hell, I would count myself lucky with any computer to make it to 3 years without an issue.  And I've been lucky, but that's how you have to think...

Logic 8 + SL = All gravy.  If any apps should be OK with the OS upgrade it's Apple's own.  I'd dare say if there were any issues there would be a Logic 8 update available right now...

I got an Mbox2 working with Logic 8 fine with the Digidesign core audio drivers... I had issues but i'm 99% sure that was because I had Pro Tools installed as well, just Logic with the core audio driver should be fine.  Also, I don't think much has been done to core audio with the 10.6 upgrade so I'd say the chances the 10.5 driver is OK are pretty good.  If you need help feel free to PM me...
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 4:46pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Logic 8 + SL = All gravy.  If any apps should be OK with the OS upgrade it's Apple's own.  I'd dare say if there were any issues there would be a Logic 8 update available right now...


sweet! cheers mate. I will take the plunge and install when it comes next week. I just hope that my logic plugins work.

Just one question for all you logic users, whats the latest Logic 8 release? I havent updated my mac for ages as its been working sweet and still is. Ive got 8.0.2. I tried searching for versions and havnt found any info on anything further than 8.0.2.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 4:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
It's mostly luck.  Made by the same company that makes all the other shit but just to a better standard, or at least that's what's in the contract.  The built quality is second to none but the internal parts are using the same chipsets etc. as high end Wintel boxes and just as prone to failure.  Hell, I would count myself lucky with any computer to make it to 3 years without an issue.  And I've been lucky, but that's how you have to think...

Logic 8 + SL = All gravy.  If any apps should be OK with the OS upgrade it's Apple's own.  I'd dare say if there were any issues there would be a Logic 8 update available right now...

I got an Mbox2 working with Logic 8 fine with the Digidesign core audio drivers... I had issues but i'm 99% sure that was because I had Pro Tools installed as well, just Logic with the core audio driver should be fine.  Also, I don't think much has been done to core audio with the 10.6 upgrade so I'd say the chances the 10.5 driver is OK are pretty good.  If you need help feel free to PM me...

Did you have many problems with Mbox2 Core Audio on 10.5? Whenever I use it I can never shut down my computer, regardless of whether it is plugged in or not.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 7:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yeah can't guarantee anyything with plugins but my gut feeling is not much should have changed that would affect them. 802 still the latest.

Don't remember having that issue natho, did you install pro tools at all or just the core driver?
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 7:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Just the core audio driver.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 7:39pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well that sucks... How do you know that's the cause?  When it won't shut down have you had a look in Activity Monitor for processes that are not responding?
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Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 10:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
2 words.   screen sharing.

my couch is much comfier and warm than the studio. now i can install everything while enjoying the soft cushion on my arse
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Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 8:09amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well that sucks... How do you know that's the cause?  When it won't shut down have you had a look in Activity Monitor for processes that are not responding?

Might try that next time. I haven't been super effected by it to be honest as I don't really use it that often. Would shit me to tears if I used it every day though.
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Posted: 3 Sep 2009, 2:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
8gb of ram for the pro incoming... 2gb ain't cutting it but 10gb should do the trick!  cl0wn
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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 6:49pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im thinking of buying an 8core mac pro for music prod. Now i just don't know whether the extra 4 cores are gonna be worth the extra $1200

anyone know of why i should/shouldnt...?
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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 7:09pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Most probably not.  If you're spending most of your budget on the computer, you'll get way more out of any number of other items you could get with the savings.... Like RAM, more hard drives, monitor speakers, MIDI keyboards, other control surfaces or whatever else takes your fancy.  The quad core is a pretty intense machine anyway.  Depends on what you're doing, your workflow, so many things, but generally speaking only get more CPU when you've got everything else.  Oh and don't order any upgrades from Apple, get it bog stock and buy your RAM from eBay and your hard drives from MSY or Allneeds.

You could extend this theory and say if you still can't afford good monitor speakers and a decent 'input setup' (keyboards, trigger finger type shiz, whatever floats your boat), you should just get an iMac.  Or increase your budget.  The computers pretty shit without the other stuff.  Especially the speakers.

Anyone running Logic on a Mac Pro have maxed out CPU issues?
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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 7:17pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
hmm thats what i was thinking.. i was speaking to tydi a few months back and he managed to max out his quad core mac pro i was amazed..

i got the budget for it, ive already got everything else ready incl screen, monitors, sound card, extra HD's but then again i could save myself the $5k and not buy a mac all together.. the only reason im buying it is for logic..

hmm still got alot of thinking ahead for a do anything me thinks...
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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 7:21pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
hmm thats what i was thinking.. i was speaking to tydi a few months back and he managed to max out his quad core mac pro i was amazed..

yeah trance is fucked

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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 7:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
haha totally agreed  laugh

but wtf was he doing/using to max out 4cores.. jebus!
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Posted: 9 Sep 2009, 7:28pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
generally that would mean you're doing it wrong

who knows really, too many possibilities

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if anyone has lamented the lack of a working soulseek client for mac, this is what you're after.  horrible interface but works fine.

http://chris.schleifer.net/ssX/builds/ssX-06082006-2216.dmg

not the one that's listed as the latest release on the actual site.  this is the only one that really works good.  shame solarseek never made it.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 12:14pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well I got the go ahead from my wife to buy another Mac this year. I want to to get an Imac but not sure if I should buy now of wait until another update on specs. I know that the Mac Pros now use the new Nehalem (i7) (quad or 8 core) processors since Aprill, but there is no news on wheather Nehalem mobile CPUs will be used in the next imac. According to Intel, they have been developing a mobile version of the Nehalem (some say it will be called the core i3 or someting) for a while. As with Imacs there have been no major improvements in specs over a year (close to 2). The only improvements were in April, when appale started using the core 2 Pennryn CPUs (1066mhz front side buss and slightly higher clock speeds) and beefed up the graphics card.

I know that Nalehem chips are being developed for mobile use and are due to be release this quarter. does anyone know anything else about this?
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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 12:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Basically Apple have moved to yearly product refresh cycles for everything... Was it April?  I thought iMacs were January... Maybe they just got a speed bump in April.  Nobody will really know whats coming in the next iMacs until late November at the earliest, so it's at that uncomfortable point in time where you could benefit from holding off but it might end up being for 6 months.  CPU wise they tend to get the first run of a lot of Intel's new chips so whatever's due for release Q1 '10 will more than likely be it, unless pricing is prohibitively high.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 12:38pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I know, i was affraid that it would be 6 months or so untill the next major refresh. I hate the fact that apple are so secretive about the release details of their Mac products. And the fact that theyhold the same price even untill the very last day of its of its update cycle. Im still thinking of holding off untill then because if they will use the new Nehalem CPUs, it will be a HUGE improvement in performance compared to the current technology.

Getting a new imac is a bit of a luxury for me at the moment, dont realy need one as Ive got my 17' MBP 2.6ghz with 4gb ram. The wife says that we need another tax deduction. If I buy a new Imac in their current state, it will only be a small improvement to what Ive got already. Looks like I shall wait then.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 12:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The last update was a big jump in architecture though, so the next 1 or 2 upgrades probably won't see huge changes to the products.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 6:02pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
if it's worth the shipping OWC (aka macsales.com) are great

i generally trust in ebay because they will at least tell you that the ram should work in a macbook

9/10 times MSY should be fine but they are cunts about refunds so you'd want to be saving a few dollars
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Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 7:27amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anyone know any cute little pc lappys that will run osx hackintosh style off the shelf?  like the net books or any 13 inch
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Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 8:34amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Last time I checked msi winds were the go for 10 inch, all those models Have gone 'next gen' since so you might wanna check one of the big hackintosh sites. Nfi on 13s
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Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 2:49pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
http://maceee.blogspot.com/2009/08/installing-mac-osx-on-asus-eeepc-1005ha.html

$480 @ msy.


OR first choose the netbook you want and look it up, or post it here and see if it will work...

This chart is ok but a bit out of date: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/17/osx-netbook-compatib.html


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Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 7:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
What's good software to rip DVDs to .avi format?

Would prefer a basic, free no-frills option if available.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 10:31amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
handbrake
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Posted: 6 Aug 2010, 3:33pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does anyone know if its possible to make itunes burn audio cd's louder????  when ever i burn tunes i make in logic they are always really quiet when i mix them so i have to turn the gain up on the mixer channel to make the track as loud as every other track i mix. the tracks themselves are loud, they just burn really quiet. when i had a pc i used to use nero burning rom and used to be able to turn the burning volume up to 100% its happening with mp3's i download too not just songs i make in logic
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Posted: 6 Aug 2010, 4:06pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does anyone know if its possible to make itunes burn audio cd's louder????  when ever i burn tunes i make in logic they are always really quiet when i mix them so i have to turn the gain up on the mixer channel to make the track as loud as every other track i mix. the tracks themselves are loud, they just burn really quiet. when i had a pc i used to use nero burning rom and used to be able to turn the burning volume up to 100% its happening with mp3's i download too not just songs i make in logic

iTunes for burning? That sounds like all sorts of wrong to me. It barely manages being a decent audio player and that's what it's designed for!

I personally never use features like that bundled into other programs. Dedicated programs are always the way to go, they always give you the most flexibility and power.

Look for a separate burning program IMO.
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Posted: 6 Aug 2010, 4:09pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Get Roxio Toast and burn with that. It's the Nero of the Mac world.

You probably have iTunes set to Auto Level your entire playlist which can screw with the volumes of louder tunes to make them the same as the lowest you have in your collection
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Posted: 7 Aug 2010, 9:34amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does anyone know if its possible to make itunes burn audio cd's louder????  when ever i burn tunes i make in logic they are always really quiet when i mix them so i have to turn the gain up on the mixer channel to make the track as loud as every other track i mix. the tracks themselves are loud, they just burn really quiet. when i had a pc i used to use nero burning rom and used to be able to turn the burning volume up to 100% its happening with mp3's i download too not just songs i make in logic

Do you have the full logic studio? If you have then you should use WaveBurner.  It's part of the full studio package.

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Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 11:15pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'd also look at some basic mastering (compression/limiting) of your final mix, although you may already be doing that.
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Posted: 9 Aug 2010, 9:07pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
This is an amusing and amazing tale about one Apple engineer's quest to finish the (cancelled) project he started...

The Graphing Calculator Story
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Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 1:03pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OK, am looking into getting back into Macs again now, one of the 27inch screen jobbies.
Will have to run some sort of windows thing on it, as some of the programmes i use are only windows based (like AutoCAD) - anyone have any suggestion for a good way to do so? Ive heard there are different options, Bootcamp etc.

Also, am i... erm... use some 'freeware/trial' software on the PC teef, are there easy to find 'freeware/trial' versions on software in macland? i guessed if not, i could just rely on what im used to from pcworld...


Any other tips/hints to consider before i organise to get one?
I dont play games, but will be using graphic software for photography (40+MB RAW files, photoshop CS5) and audio (recording more than production), vector based drawing & rendering programmes (autoCAD and 3d studio viz/max)

Im also leaning toward getting a higher spec one for overall longevity.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 3:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OK, am looking into getting back into Macs again now, one of the 27inch screen jobbies.
Will have to run some sort of windows thing on it, as some of the programmes i use are only windows based (like AutoCAD) - anyone have any suggestion for a good way to do so? Ive heard there are different options, Bootcamp etc.

Bootcamp is fine if you are OK to reboot the whole system. If you want to run OSX and virtualise windows then you can use VMWare or Parallels to run both at the same time.

Also, am i... erm... use some 'freeware/trial' software on the PC teef, are there easy to find 'freeware/trial' versions on software in macland? i guessed if not, i could just rely on what im used to from pcworld...

Yes.

graphic software for photography (40+MB RAW files, photoshop CS5)

What kind of camera are you using to get 40+MB RAW files???
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 5:32pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OK, so there are better options than bootcamp.
yeah i'd rather not have to reboot and just go from one system to the other. any recommendations?


What kind of camera are you using to get 40+MB RAW files???

sorry meant 14+MB RAW.
my current camera puts out 10/11MB pics in jpeg and about 14 in RAW, but DSLR specs are constantly increasing...
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Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 8:01pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
OK.

VMWare works fine for me, but I don't use it for any really intensive applications. I'd google for VMWare vs Parallels reviews/comparisons if I was in your position and concentrate on the performance results where more resource intensive applications are being used.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010, 1:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
cheers mate
TBH, its actually the photography that seems most draining on my system, followed by audio. AutoCAD doesnt seem to give a fuck what size files i throw at it, but when i start trying to search through 10-20MB image files (some of the DNG RAW are nearly 20) then i get the shits when each image takes so long to load in picasa.

Admittedly, I need to use a better programme than picasa, ie Lightroom for sorting these images.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2010, 2:31pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yes, moving to Lightroom or Aperture (I prefer this on the Mac, in fact I think it's one of the best pieces of software I've ever used) will make the biggest differences. They are designed for people working with massive image libraries and the methods they use to catalog/search/browse images is far superior to any of the "consumer" products available.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 7:10amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
So I turned my Imac on last night only to be greeted with a blank white screen? The after a while I get a small grey folder flash in the middle of the screen with a ? in it.

All reports seem to lead to HD failure ??

Anyone??
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 7:35amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
grey screen of death Smiley haha good to see they bleed just like the rest of us.

but yes GSOD is usually a direct result of your hdd failing, u have my condolences there. that would fuckn suck.

backed up ?
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 9:16amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
grey screen of death Smiley haha good to see they bleed just like the rest of us.

but yes GSOD is usually a direct result of your hdd failing, u have my condolences there. that would fuckn suck.

backed up ?


Yeh probably only the last week or so wasnt...
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 9:28amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
id be interested to know what brand hdd are inside those things, i have recently consolodated all my old ide and small sata drives onto a 2tb WD. some of those were pushin 6 years old and still running strong. i only use western digital tho. i built a pc for someone once and they only had seagate left. 6 months later its failed.
Im not usually like that
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 12:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
You can look in system profiler to see what brand of HD is being used. My 2010 MBP has a Seagate Momentus drive.

I have used basically every brand of drive in ~10 years of IT work and I don't see any patterns of one brand being more or less reliable than others. It's just a matter of luck. Back up whatever's important and you'll be fine...
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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 1:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
So I turned my Imac on last night only to be greeted with a blank white screen? The after a while I get a small grey folder flash in the middle of the screen with a ? in it.

All reports seem to lead to HD failure ??

Anyone??

Same thing happened to mine.

Fortunately I had everything backed up on a wd external. Unfortunately that died 4 days later. Wasn't a good week.
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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 9:34amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
put your osx cd in and boot up holding down the option key.
then boot off the cd.  once it starts up just run disk utility from the menu's at the top.  don't try and reinstall osx again.. run the disk util first and do repair drive on it to see if that works
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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 10:58amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
put your osx cd in and boot up holding down the option key.
then boot off the cd.  once it starts up just run disk utility from the menu's at the top.  don't try and reinstall osx again.. run the disk util first and do repair drive on it to see if that works

will give it a go
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Posted: 4 Nov 2010, 7:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
so nerds... i have an airport extreme with ADSL2 connection and in the lounge an airport express running airtunes to my speakers... the question i have is, if i buy a tv that does internet TV stuff without a computer... can i plug an ethernet cable from my airport express to the TV and get teh webz in ma tv??

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Posted: 5 Nov 2010, 6:58amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Sorry Batch

Just need to big up PATCH for fixing my imac... LEGEND  highfive
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Posted: 5 Nov 2010, 9:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Sorry Batch

Just need to big up PATCH for fixing my imac... LEGEND  highfive

ah... love a happy ending... and welcome back!  Smiley
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Posted: 21 Dec 2010, 8:29amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yo peeps, So after some lengthy pondering / research I believe I have made my decision in the age old battle between PC & Mac, and am going to switch to Mac after many years of PC use. Looking at a desktop Pro running Logic + Ableton rewire, now my problem Lies with which specs I can get without overloading the budget. Looking like 6cores 3.33 is a good option, but that leaves less ram slots only one cpu..for longevities sake. Anyone using a setup like this with advice on specs? thanks alot guys.

I havent read the enitre thread so if there's a similiar post already let me know  Smiley

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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 3:58pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yo peeps, So after some lengthy pondering / research I believe I have made my decision in the age old battle between PC & Mac, and am going to switch to Mac after many years of PC use. Looking at a desktop Pro running Logic + Ableton rewire, now my problem Lies with which specs I can get without overloading the budget. Looking like 6cores 3.33 is a good option, but that leaves less ram slots only one cpu..for longevities sake. Anyone using a setup like this with advice on specs? thanks alot guys.

I havent read the enitre thread so if there's a similiar post already let me know  Smiley



That's insane.

4 - 4.5 grand for a desktop computer???

How about this if you want the best of the best:



Snow leopard costs $40.

This is the absolute most I could make a computer cost. For a bit over a grand you could have the exact same PC as you want. For less than you were willing to pay you can have probably the ultimate Hackintosh in existence. I can't guarantee the parts I suggested will work (just picked the most expensive for fun) but I can build you something which I will guarantee.

DON'T DO IT.

Just buy a MBP? Those things are sweet.

What exactly were you planning to do with this beast?
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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 4:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The High End iMacs are better value than the Mac Pros by far. Look at the specifications and tell me what it is that the Mac Pro has that the iMac doesn't.

You can't compare standard PC gear to off the shelf stuff from PCCG. The Mac Pros are built on server grade gear (hence the Xeons).

Compare PCCG gear to an iMac instead.
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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 4:18pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
That's insane.

4 - 4.5 grand for a desktop computer???

How about this if you want the best of the best:

This is the absolute most I could make a computer cost.


Gamers can always find a way. teef


The ingredients that went into Origin's Big O monster are decidedly prime: six-core Xeon 5680 processor, overclocking up to 4.3GHz, crazy graphics power. And the cherry on top is an integrated, liquid-cooled Xbox 360 slim in every rig. That's nasty.

The Big O has ferocious specs, but the real treat is that you can run the PC and the Xbox at the same time. Pretty special, and appropriately expensive; you're looking at $7669 for the base model, and for the pure hellbeast that is the Xeon 5680 model you'll pony up $17,000. Or all points in between; you can configure The Big O however you like. And personally, if I'm paying that much, I'd also like to be able to drive it to work.

http://www.originpc.com/thebigo-features.asp

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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 4:41pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The High End iMacs are better value than the Mac Pros by far. Look at the specifications and tell me what it is that the Mac Pro has that the iMac doesn't.

You can't compare standard PC gear to off the shelf stuff from PCCG. The Mac Pros are built on server grade gear (hence the Xeons).

Compare PCCG gear to an iMac instead.






Much better. Get that if you really want a desktop mac Sammy. You can get blu ray and an SSD for less but I'll allow the Mac on this occasion just as I will allow Macbook Pro's because they are sweet.

Do not get a Mac Pro though. Do not. You do not need it at all.


You can't compare standard PC gear to off the shelf stuff from PCCG. The Mac Pros are built on server grade gear (hence the Xeons).

Well you can when they are made of the same stuff. Sammy does not need a Xeon.

The High End iMacs are better value than the Mac Pros by far. Look at the specifications and tell me what it is that the Mac Pro has that the iMac doesn't.

Server grade specifications? 4.5k price tag? I dunno, you tell me.  teef
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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 5:07pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Gamers can always find a way. teef

 laugh Ah nice but no dice, why integrate a crappy Xbox into the thing!

But yes there are ways and means... Like buying a mac pro. teef
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Posted: 4 Jan 2011, 11:17pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Sorry I don't even know what you are doing now. Are you suggesting he gets a Mac or a PC?

At the end of the day each system has its uses but I think many who buy Mac Pros don't really need one which is why I generally ask those who are considering one the question "what'll it do that the high end iMac won't?".
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Posted: 5 Jan 2011, 12:31pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yeah I'm saying that the iMac is ok I guess. Mac Pro is not ok obviously.
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 1:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Originally I was going to upgrade my PC and build something similar to what you suggested - actually a bit less specy, but somewhere along the line I have convinced myself on getting a mac - mainly these are the things that have swayed me: Logic (hackintosh not proven stable I dont think.. phorte?) - Components made by or for apple which means generally shit just works without having to change a million settings everytime you add something new - No viruses or virus protection programs to eat up cpu -  better freeware market than PC - usable without having to know much about computers & pretty much silent. And the reason I'd go Pro over iMac is expandablity & longevity, easy HDD/SSD replacements etc - although you right in saying I prob don't need a 6 core, so I'm looking into quad's and refurbs etc - not really in a rush so i dont mind waiting till something pops up, I do believe you can score a mac pro for a relative "bargain".

In saying this I haven't ruled out the PC option, but there must be a reason that a fair to majority amount of professionals use macs? (not saying that i'm a professional Lol... but I do plan on putting alot of time/effort in over the years) cheers for your replies Smiley
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Posted: 14 Jan 2011, 10:44amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Next Byte just called me and said Apple are offering free replacements on the Macbook keyboard cases if they have cracked if bought in the last 4 years.  Sweet as, my black macbook has been cracking off since 2008.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 12:00amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
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Posted: 17 Jan 2011, 1:36pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Originally I was going to upgrade my PC and build something similar to what you suggested - actually a bit less specy, but somewhere along the line I have convinced myself on getting a mac - mainly these are the things that have swayed me: Logic (hackintosh not proven stable I dont think.. phorte?) - Components made by or for apple which means generally shit just works without having to change a million settings everytime you add something new - No viruses or virus protection programs to eat up cpu -  better freeware market than PC - usable without having to know much about computers & pretty much silent. And the reason I'd go Pro over iMac is expandablity & longevity, easy HDD/SSD replacements etc - although you right in saying I prob don't need a 6 core, so I'm looking into quad's and refurbs etc - not really in a rush so i dont mind waiting till something pops up, I do believe you can score a mac pro for a relative "bargain".

In saying this I haven't ruled out the PC option, but there must be a reason that a fair to majority amount of professionals use macs? (not saying that i'm a professional Lol... but I do plan on putting alot of time/effort in over the years) cheers for your replies Smiley

That link you posted is good, I can see why you would want a Mac Pro over an iMac - the inability to meaningfully upgrade storage is completely retarded and the fastest external port is firewire 800? That's an instant no go for me, even if you can add an Esata card it's still not enough.

Logic is a great reason to have a Mac or Hack. I would not dissuade you from that line of thinking. Logic is THE reason I have one.

As far as the stability issue, I guess I can only say that my Hackintosh is very (i.e. completely so far) stable but that instability can arise from using the wrong kernel extensions for your hardware or from dumping heaps of unneeded kexts in there to try and ensure compatibility without understanding what you need. A Hackintosh is not as cool as a real Mac, is not as easy as a real Mac, but it can be as stable as a real Mac. You have to keep in mind that you can build a Hackintosh with and X58 board (found in Mac Pros), intel processor (found in Mac Pros), an ATI 5870 (found in Mac Pros), virtually the same memory and HDD's as found in Mac Pros... What you would be building is going to be pretty damn close to a real Mac and most things will work straight out of the box with the Vanilla kernel IF you choose the correct components. You can't usually do an OSX system update straight away though with a Hack because it will break it (but you can do them).

As for components made by or for Apple, well I've covered that, I guess if you really need to add something else (what else?) you will just have to cross that bridge when you come to it - you probably have more options with a Hackintosh than with a real Mac though! Mac Pros are very high quality pieces of equipment, there is no denying that. Not sure what you mean about changing a million settings sorry, are you talking about Windows? or compared to a real Mac? Neither really make sense to me. As for peripherals, anything that would normally work with a mac will work and anything that won't, won't. No difference there.

No viruses or protection programs to eat cpu; well with Windows you can just use MSE and you won't notice it ever. "Eating CPU" doesn't make as much sense as it once did - who cares if something uses a tiny bit of cpu if you have four cores of death @ 4GHz? Also Apple kind of recommends using an AV now. And it doesn't matter because you need OSX for Logic so forget Windows for now.

"Better freeware market than PC"; completely false. With 88% market share (compared to 7% for OSX) Windows has way way way more freeware apps than OSX and will continue to. This is actually THE reason I use Windows more often than OSX at home for random stuff (and I can't be bothered rebooting just to play a game).

"Usable without having to know much about computers & pretty much silent": once a Hackintosh is complete it's the same as a Mac Pro in terms of usability. Getting it installed is pretty damn easy too with the right advice. As far as Windows, well, my Grandma can use Windows so usability is not really an issue there either. It's all just clicking buttons. I would bet you can build a QUIETER Hackintosh than a Mac Pro if you wanted. It's all about getting the right case, fans, cpu cooler and power supply. You have way more options with a Hack than a Mac Pro.

"The reason I'd go Pro over iMac is expandablity & longevity, easy HDD/SSD replacements etc - although you right in saying I prob don't need a 6 core": Yes I'd go Mac Pro over iMac too but now we are back to the price issue... I'm just not sure you can do it for ANYWHERE NEAR the price of an equivalent (or much better) Hackintosh, but only you can decide what you want to do now you have all the info.

Just FYI, my Hackintosh comes in at probably under $1500 and would slaughter the quad core single CPU Mac Pros pretty easily I think. It is stable and quiet and sweet. To think of what kind of beast you could build with 2k... It would be faster, quieter, way way more powerful and cheaper than the Mac Pros. Unfortunately this is just what you are going to have to wrestle with if you do want the Mac Pro (price differences of 50% or more for an equal or better product than the Mac).

Have you considered a Macbook Pro btw?

P.S.  laugh Glock
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 8:19amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
"Better freeware market than PC"; completely false. With 88% market share (compared to 7% for OSX)

Yeah I wasn't sure about that one haha - My mates analogy is that owning a mac pro is like driving a well built expensive car... It's gonna work mostly all the time, but you can only drive on 11% of roads, as oppossed to driving a break-down prone car, which you can drive on almost all roads..  teef

"just use MSE and you won't notice it ever" Yeah I just started using this a few weeks ago it's sweet and you're right you can't notice it. (although not needing an AV program at all seems a better option)

"To think of what kind of beast you could build with 2k" If I knew how to build one I prob would haha, Kinda sounds complicated.. I have a mate that could do it for me - but he says he's not 100% confident of a hackintosh build. Altough Now I might email him and see what he thinks of your idea (sourcing mac counterparts)

Cheers!!
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Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 9:35amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
No worries. Just do what you have to do to get what you want - I'm not going to tell you what to do, it's just that for me the price issue is just too huge to ignore.

Once you have the right components you can pretty much guarantee a good build, and it's not as complicated as it looks. There are heaps of places you can go to get info on what components to buy (me included).

So you are set on the desktop? I've got a couple of mates with Macbook pros, one of them coupled with a big monitor is pretty cool...


Some links:

http://lifehacker.com/5672051/how-to-build-a-hackintosh-mac-and-install-os-x-in-eight-easy-steps

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/iboot-multibeast-install-mac-os-x-on.html

http://www.hackintosh.com/


Note that the Lifehacker build is now a little bit out of date (sandybridge processors are out now).

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Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 1:12pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Pretty much set on a desktop... Cheers for the links man!

The price on these things is a big factor... what would you say if you had a few grand donated to you for the purpose? ;-)
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Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 11:59amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
The price on these things is a big factor... what would you say if you had a few grand donated to you for the purpose? ;-)

No doubt.

Let me look into it and see what I can come up with.
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Sammy SourcePosts: 79
Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 2:00pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Now you got me interested in this hackintosh bizness  laugh

Doesn't seem as hard as I first thought - upon reading some of the guides you brought to my attention. How long have you been running yours? without problems - such as updating the OS?

from what i came up with I'd be looking at 2,500 as opposed to 56,000,000 for a mac pro lol.. but still - my whole argument in the first place was ease of use with mac, if something goes awry with a hac it means I'll have to holla for my IT crowd to rush to the rescue!

I suppose, at the very least, I'd end up with a stomper of a PC running windows 7... meh
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 5:57pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
sam just to reply briefly from before, my hackintosh has been running absolutely perfectly fine since i built it last year. updated to latest 10.6.4 and only using one hacked kext. everything else is completely vanilla.

benchmark has put it a bit over a similarly spec'ed CPU mac pro but with the benefits of faster RAM, etc... GPU didn't matter for me because i dont play games on here but if i wanted to, i've also got win7 dualbooting so i can play games. all of this for i guess 1/3 of the cost of the equivalent mac pro last year?

but as you know, i built my hack purely for Logic and also for my photography (Lightroom) and it hasn't skipped a beat. and running it with an Apogee Duet (which as you know is Mac-only too)

image not archived: 100523setup.jpg

i get most of my info from this forum: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/

oliThe
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 6:15pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
If you use your computer for anything important remember that you won't get any support with a "hackintosh".

E.g. If your motherboard fails you have to get a new one (if it's under warranty) then rebuild everything. If my motherboard fails in my genuine Macbook Pro I can get a replacement and have the machine back and running with me 24 hours later.

Just something to keep in mind if you rely on your computer for something important (work/earning money).
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 6:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
same sorta thing would apply for anyone building a normal PC anyway - absolutely irrespective of what OS you end up putting on...

but the eternal rule will always apply: back up back up back up.
oliThe
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 6:40pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
If you buy something off the shelf from a good supplier you should be able to get a good warranty service (though you'll no doubt pay a premium). E.g. A Dell laptop or workstation.

The market for PCs is so competitive though it isn't easy for individuals to find the same type of support/warranty arrangement as what Apple provides. At least with Apple you know you will get it, that's a part of what you pay a premium for right from the start.
pedroPosts: 105
Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 6:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hey Phorte, what are those monitors you're using there? And also, what brand HDD docks are those?

Looks very sweet. I'm so tempted to get me an Apogee Duet.

Cheers.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 8:25pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
If you buy something off the shelf from a good supplier you should be able to get a good warranty service (though you'll no doubt pay a premium). E.g. A Dell laptop or workstation.

The market for PCs is so competitive though it isn't easy for individuals to find the same type of support/warranty arrangement as what Apple provides. At least with Apple you know you will get it, that's a part of what you pay a premium for right from the start.

just want to add that i agree with apple's quality of service with their warranty and apple care (as i own a 15" Macbook Pro as well...).

but its each to their own with this one.. some ppl like to buy Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc... but then a lot of ppl build their own PC's because its cheaper and well so easy to do these days. anything breaks? simple, just replace it. if mobo dies, pull data off the HDD and rebuild with new board.

the applecare for macbook's etc make much more sense. especially with the second last generation MBP's and their failing Logic boards. same idea goes with windows-based laptops: you're not going to be building it. warranty will always make sense there.

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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 8:27pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hey Phorte, what are those monitors you're using there? And also, what brand HDD docks are those?

Looks very sweet. I'm so tempted to get me an Apogee Duet.

Cheers.

monitors - Event TR8's
hdd dock - Vantec (connected via e-sata - not silly USB)

what you dont see in the photo is my unRAID server with over 10Tb's of storage. that sits in the master bedroom WIR which connects to a gigabit switch, feeding every room in the house including the home theatre room.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011, 8:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anything breaks? simple, just replace it. if mobo dies, pull data off the HDD and rebuild with new board.

So true. If you can do it yourself and you don't rely on the system on a day to day basis this is the way to go.

the applecare for macbook's etc make much more sense. especially with the second last generation MBP's and their failing Logic boards. same idea goes with windows-based laptops: you're not going to be building it. warranty will always make sense there.

No kidding. I had fans replaced and the logic board in my 2007 Macbook Pro replaced 2 times under warranty. Died a third time and the local service centre (Nextbyte) couldn't get it working after another replacement so they sent it to the Apple engineering team in Sydney which although it was a major inconvenience I got a new laptop just as the new i5 15" MBP range was released, 4 months before my 3 year Apple Care warranty was about to run out. I haven't had any issues with this one (in 9 months or so).

Since I use it for work I would have gone out and spent 3K on a new one when the 3 year warranty was up anyway so it saved me a lot of money.  FU Slayer
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 9:51amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
@ phorte

Love the look of that setup, very neat which is what I tend to be like - I'm very happy taking advice from you  laugh


"what you dont see in the photo is my unRAID server with over 10Tb's of storage. that sits in the master bedroom WIR which connects to a gigabit switch, feeding every room in the house including the home theatre room." awsome  biggrin

unless you've already told me, do u mind if i ask what specs you used in your hack? I'd hope to build one using an i7 / Asus board something like that - I got a reasonable budget as you know. As I said I'd be running Logic with Ableton in rewire mode - and other than that I'd pretty much use maybe photoshop a bit, a wave editor, don't really play games but would prob go with Nvidia graphics..

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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 10:23amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the gigabyte ex58(a) mobos are basically the most compatible with snow leopard. here are the specs for my build last year:

cpu: Intel Core i7 930
mobo: Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R
ram: 12Gb DDR3-1600 G Skill NQ
gpu: 1GB Inno3D GTX 285
dvdr: SATA Sony DVDRW

there is a wealth of info on the insanelymac forums i linked earlier. thats where i got pretty much 99.99% of my information from. i havent been back on there for at least a year now (since my build has been performing without any hiccups whatsoever) but theres always ppl on there putting up their specs and how easy their specs were to build. also lots of tutorials on ppl building it up from scratch (including one that i had done for myself too).

let me know if you need any more info Smiley

and here's some footage of my HT in action to show off the 120" 2.35:1 screen and my projector's native cinemascope content zooming function (none of this 16:9 "widescreen" stuff haha)

[video: www.youtube.com]
Sammy SourcePosts: 79
Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 2:11pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

Wow Impressive!

What's the program that runs the main screen with all the cover art & descriptions?
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 2:13pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
http://xbmc.org/

It's fucking awesome.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 2:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
What skin are you running on XBMC there Phorte? It looks familiar but I can't remember the name. Red something I think?

For darker style I always liked the MediaStream and Rapier skins myself but a bright one is a nice change.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 2:32pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yep XBMC. ive been using it for a few years now... for my setup, i have a ASRock ION330HT pc in the family room and another second one in the home theatre room. both are identical in hardware spec and both are running XBMC + Ubuntu + Alaska Revisited skin. these all talk back via gigabit to my aforementioned unRAID server. all content is 1080P MKV with some 720P MKV's. both rooms have PS3's too if i wanted to watch something from my bluray collection.

ps. this is part of why im not on IRC much these days hahaha

glock, its the Alaska Revisited skin... i only just changed to this maybe 3 months ago. before that i was using the Transparency skin for a looong ass time in full fanart mode but as my movie base started to get so big, i needed a better way of seeing more movies in one go

recently theyve added themes to the Alaska Revisited skin so instead of the bright white for my plasma downstairs, i've set it to a darker theme so theres no burn in lol..
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 3:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Doesn't seem as hard as I first thought - upon reading some of the guides you brought to my attention. How long have you been running yours? without problems - such as updating the OS?

2.5+ years?

On my laptop and on my desktop, so I guess 4 years computer time? My laptop does not run anywhere near vanilla kernel btw, but it still works perfectly. Oh but the network card was not supported so I bought one from ebay for $12 and it's sweet.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 5:10pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Phorte if a movie is shit, and you watch it on your awesome system, is it still shit?
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 6:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
icon_cry

Sorry to hear that.
GlockPosts: 8,640
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 4:00amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yep XBMC. ive been using it for a few years now... for my setup, i have a ASRock ION330HT pc in the family room and another second one in the home theatre room. both are identical in hardware spec and both are running XBMC + Ubuntu + Alaska Revisited skin. these all talk back via gigabit to my aforementioned unRAID server. all content is 1080P MKV with some 720P MKV's. both rooms have PS3's too if i wanted to watch something from my bluray collection.

ps. this is part of why im not on IRC much these days hahaha

glock, its the Alaska Revisited skin... i only just changed to this maybe 3 months ago. before that i was using the Transparency skin for a looong ass time in full fanart mode but as my movie base started to get so big, i needed a better way of seeing more movies in one go

recently theyve added themes to the Alaska Revisited skin so instead of the bright white for my plasma downstairs, i've set it to a darker theme so theres no burn in lol..

What do you use to control the system?
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Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 10:31amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
for the family room tv, i have a Logitech Harmony 785 and for the home theatre, i have a Logitech Harmony 1100i...

maybe we should make a separate thread to chat about this stuff Smiley

edit: ok new thread is over here
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Posted: 8 Feb 2011, 9:14pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
yo iPhone 4.2.1 heads, greenpois0n is out to jailbreak al iPhones, touches, ipads etc.

i've done our 2 phones today and they're both working sweet
leahcakePosts: 136
Posted: 9 Feb 2011, 11:22amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
How do you download it and jailbreak the iPhone?
NeoPosts: 1,366
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 1:22amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
getting 8 gigs of RAM soon! my MB Pro will be good for 2 weeks!  teef
oliThe
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Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 10:32amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Where from/how much? Guessing you have current model MBP...
GlockPosts: 8,640
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 5:20pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Are all Macs 64-bit these days?

(Just wondering in respect to the large RAM figures being thrown around.)
oliThe
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Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 5:23pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yes.

The CPUs are. Snow Leopard is.
NeoPosts: 1,366
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 2:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Where from/how much? Guessing you have current model MBP...

Sorry man long time havent been back here in this thread...Um no its 1 and a half years old...
and $250 fitted from a place in Perth - they even gave my 2 gigs back!!
orchiePosts: 214
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 6:50pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'm hoping someone here might be able to help with an issue I am having with Safari and YouTube. For some reason, Safari will play embedded YouTube videos ie on here or on FaceBook, but it wont load or play them on YouTube.com, all I get is a black screen where the video should be. I have tried resetting and reinstalling Safari, and reinstalling Flash Player, but no love. YouTube is running fine on my other browser Camino. Anyone have any clues as to what I could try next??

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Smiley
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Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 6:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I'm hoping someone here might be able to help with an issue I am having with Safari and YouTube. For some reason, Safari will play embedded YouTube videos ie on here or on FaceBook, but it wont load or play them on YouTube.com, all I get is a black screen where the video should be. I have tried resetting and reinstalling Safari, and reinstalling Flash Player, but no love. YouTube is running fine on my other browser Camino. Anyone have any clues as to what I could try next??

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Smiley

get Chrome - Safari sux ass (I will soon)

http://www.google.com/chrome/?brand=CHKB&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-aunz-ct&utm_medium=ha
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 3:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
the answer to that question is easy.. at the start click no you dont have an apple tv Smiley
yeah I did then hold
Down the buttons when it says then it thinks about it for a bit then tells me jailbreak failed try again
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 3:37pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
have you got the latest update from itunes?  4.2.1 
you must have that first
back up your phone and update to that, then try again

seriously, its so easy
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 9:24pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I have read today that Lion has been released as a preview. Anyone looked at that?
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 9:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Considering I never got round to upgrading to Snow Leopard, it might be a big leap for me.
oliThe
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 1:13amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Except Hibernate doesn't work properly most of the time or is slow as crap?
GlockPosts: 8,640
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 1:26amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Except Hibernate doesn't work properly most of the time or is slow as crap?

I knew that would stir a few pots. biggrin

I don't use it regularly myself so I can't refute what you're saying entirely, but I've never had any problems when I have...
oliThe
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 2:26amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well the hibernate equivalent on OSX has always just been the standard suspend option. I never really turn off my MBP. It just gets rebooted for software updates. If I move it around I just close the lid.

So in my case the only time the new Resume thing would be useful is on the rare occasions that software installations or upgrades require a reboot.

Anyway it has a disclaimer saying "Available with apps that have been developed to work with Lion." which at the start will almost certainly just mean all the iStuff, which I don't even use.  laugh
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 2:22pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Well the hibernate equivalent on OSX has always just been the standard suspend option. I never really turn off my MBP. It just gets rebooted for software updates. If I move it around I just close the lid.

So in my case the only time the new Resume thing would be useful is on the rare occasions that software installations or upgrades require a reboot.

Anyway it has a disclaimer saying "Available with apps that have been developed to work with Lion." which at the start will almost certainly just mean all the iStuff, which I don't even use.  laugh

It looks like they're heading down the app store route for programs on their desktop/laptop systems now too, which is kind of shit. Don't they think people are able to use browsers or read system requirements anymore?

I hate companies that simplify everything like that, soon enough we'll be like that Idiocracy movie! teef
oliThe
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 3:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Yeah it's obvious they are trying to make their platforms as similar as possible. As long as we can still run whatever apps we want (i.e. OSX doesn't become "locked down" like the iOS platform) I will be happy.
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Posted: c. 3 Mar 2011, 8:51amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

 iPad 2 march 26

 IOS 4.3 out March 11th

 Hoping 4.3 has the WiFi hotspot capability, haven't had a chance to check the list of changes yet.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 10:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does anyone have a MBP or similar and use the SD card slot? i've just got a new digital camera and for some reason my MBP won't mount the SD card. anyone got and tips/ideas?
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 10:50amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Look in disk utility to see if it's picking it up at all. Maybe it's just not mounting it or something?
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 11:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
nah it's not coming up in disk utility either
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 11:59amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Weird... Got another SD card to try?
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 1:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
nah i only have 2 of the same and neither work. annoying.

again for mbp users... if you turn your brightness right down to off, after about 30 seconds or so does the screen turn back on?
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 1:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
again for mbp users... if you turn your brightness right down to off, after about 30 seconds or so does the screen turn back on?

No.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 3:39pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I have a MBP but haven't had either of those problems, sorry Timmeh. I do both of those things fairly regularly as well (especially use the SD slot).
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Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 4:59pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
does anyone have a MBP or similar and use the SD card slot? i've just got a new digital camera and for some reason my MBP won't mount the SD card. anyone got and tips/ideas?

How old is the MBP? and is the SD card a SDHC or SDXC or just standard SD card. Some older MBPs do not support SDHC or SDXC. They look the same almost and probably fit in the slot but wont be readable.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 10:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
How old is the MBP? and is the SD card a SDHC or SDXC or just standard SD card. Some older MBPs do not support SDHC or SDXC. They look the same almost and probably fit in the slot but wont be readable.

it's just under a year old
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 12:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
it's just under a year old

in that case it should work, sorry cant suggests anything else
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 9:13amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
open system profiler and see if it's registering when you have it connected.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 3:48amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I hate to state the obvious, but have you tried flipping the memory card upside down??!  :E


If it's just under a year old then you might want to get it looked at under warranty while you still can.
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Posted: 4 Aug 2011, 11:19pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
oh yeah it was upside down... jk :E
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Posted: 5 Aug 2011, 12:16amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Try jiggling the write protect switch on the SD card. They are notoriously flimsy and have caused me some issues in the past, not so much with not detecting the card but making the PC think it's write protected when the switch is off for instance. It's possible something like gumming up the works could cause your issue. It's worth a try anyway.
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Posted: 6 Aug 2011, 10:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I've tried a mates SD card with still no luck. Looks like I'll have to send it off :(
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Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 3:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

 Macs, they just work

 :E
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Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 7:49pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Macs, they just work

 :E

 :lol:

Everyone always bangs on about how superior Mac's repair and customer service is...how would they know unless the shit breaks all the time? I read umpteen "make an appointment with a Genius Bar" posts a week over on other tech sites.

Superior marketing...that's all it is! They've done a good job in making people believe it all "just works". :E
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Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 7:55pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
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Posted: 11 Aug 2011, 10:40amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
 FWIW I am no Apple hater, I think they are an amazing company and I would possibly marry my iPhone if I was single. I just hate it when people say 'get a mac' to anyone with pc problems.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2011, 11:52amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I don't say get a Mac anymore, I just send them to this website:

http://goo.gl/zrcu

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Posted: 11 Aug 2011, 5:28pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
:lol:

Everyone always bangs on about how superior Mac's repair and customer service is...how would they know unless the shit breaks all the time? I read umpteen "make an appointment with a Genius Bar" posts a week over on other tech sites.

Superior marketing...that's all it is! They've done a good job in making people believe it all "just works". :E

2 Macbook pros, an Imac and a G4 Mac pro in the last 7 or so years. Not a single problem. I guess you will only hear stories of people with problems on forums such as this. Not many people bother posting stuff like 'my mac is working just fine'..

I work for a TV station and look after many production suites, Audio and Video. Most are Macs but we still have a few Windows based HP work stations in use. I can tell you that the amount of issues we have with the Windows based suites are 100 fold compared to the Macs.

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Posted: 11 Aug 2011, 6:51pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I guess you will only hear stories of people with problems on forums such as this. Not many people bother posting stuff like 'my mac is working just fine'..

Actually there are equally as many fanboy, "I love Apple" posts as well...

To be fair most of the problems are with various iPhone related things, I was speaking about Apple products in general.
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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 10:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I don't say get a Mac anymore, I just send them to this website:

http://goo.gl/zrcu

i clicked it, but it takes me to a page with a picture of an overpriced bit of substandard performance hardware with terrible cooling capability - wrong link?
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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 10:54amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i clicked it, but it takes me to a page with a picture of an overpriced bit of substandard performance hardware with terrible cooling capability - wrong link?

Smart ass! :E
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Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 7:23pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
"There is a most absurd and audacious method of reasoning avowed by some bigots and enthusiasts, and through fear assented to by some wiser and better men; it is this. They argue against a fair discussion of popular prejudices, because, say they, tho' they would be found without any reasonable support, yet the discovery might be productive of the most dangerous consequences. Absurd and blasphemous notion."
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Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 12:42pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Okay, I have a frustratingly simple question to ask...

... I am very bad at remembering to plug in my MBP when it gives me the Low Battery warning. Sometimes it will just go to sleep when the battery runs out, but sometimes it turns itself off completely. I thought it had something to do with how much charge was left in the battery as to which option it chose, but I'm struggling to find consistency here.

What I want to know is whether I can set my machine to ONLY go to sleep in this situation, rather than risking it turning off and closing everything that I'm working on. I've looked in the Energy Saver options in System Preferences (and a few other places in there) but can't find anything.

Any ideas or am I the problem that needs to be fixed?
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Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 1:16pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
afaik there is no setting for that.  it should just go to sleep and save the state it was in but maybe your battery has had it and doesn't get enough time to.
i know my old one started to do that on and off after a couple of years, but then i've seen the missus one do it in the first year.
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pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 6:04pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Okay, I have a frustratingly simple question to ask...

... I am very bad at remembering to plug in my MBP when it gives me the Low Battery warning. Sometimes it will just go to sleep when the battery runs out, but sometimes it turns itself off completely. I thought it had something to do with how much charge was left in the battery as to which option it chose, but I'm struggling to find consistency here.

What I want to know is whether I can set my machine to ONLY go to sleep in this situation, rather than risking it turning off and closing everything that I'm working on. I've looked in the Energy Saver options in System Preferences (and a few other places in there) but can't find anything.

Any ideas or am I the problem that needs to be fixed?

There are a few hacks for this (quite annoying) problem. They can probably be found on http://hints.macworld.com/. Right now I don't have the time to search for you but they're definitely in there. And they're very hackish.

The other option is to post your question at http://apple.stackexchange.com/ and it will be answered within an hour or so I'd say.

Good luck.
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Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 9:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I would suggest upgrading to Lion since it "remembers" where everything was but I've had issues with my upgrade (graphics drivers) so I won't... :(
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011, 12:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Thanks everyone!

Patch, as for the battery you might be on to something. I've just noticed a little 'Service battery' warning in the 'Energy Saver' options. I'll check it again when the computer's fully charged and see if the warning is still there. I still get great battery life, though, so I don't really want to pay to fix something that isn't really 'broken'!
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 3:18amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Still getting that warning when the battery is full. I suppose I'd better start looking into this!

Pedro, that stackexchange site sounds worthwhile. Oli, I am in no way tempted to 'upgrade' to Lion with all I have heard about it!
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 3:32amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I just ordered a new Mac Mini so at least if Lion is messed up on there as well then I have AppleCare to get help from. :D Will have my current MBP for sale soon after a fresh install of Snow Leopard goes on there.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 4:31amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Last years MBP. It was the first series with the i5 CPU. 2.4Ghz. 256MB Nvidia GT 330M. I have upgraded it though so it's got 8GB of RAM and a Seagate Momentus XT drive (the one with a SSD cache). It has the higher res anti-glare screen as well. Glossy screens suck IMO.

Not sure on price yet though to be honest. I need to get the new one setup before I think about getting rid of this. :)
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011, 4:37amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
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Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 4:01pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/

 :lol:

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Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 3:05pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
got on to a bottom of the line mbp a little while ago, my first mac! seems to run really well and solid... dont know how to do everything i could do on a pc yet but i am getting there...   :)
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Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 12:11pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
so i need to take my mpb in to get looked at. what are the best places for repairs and services?
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Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 12:47pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Nextbyte up on Glen Osmond Road. Book it in in advance if possible.
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Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 10:54pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
nextbyte can eat a dick. 

here's a couple more

OzMac Solutions
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Evandale
(08) 8362 4000

Pro AV Solutions
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Posted: 6 Jan 2012, 8:34pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anyone got any experience backing up ipods?

just had my nano replaced, so i am looking to get some stuff off my ipod classic and put it on my new nano.

it looks easy enough to find all the mp3s, but they are all listed as a 4 character filename which has no relation to the actual name of the track. is there anyway to rename them as artist_trackname.mp3 in a massive batch?
pedroPosts: 273
Posted: 6 Jan 2012, 11:28pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Can you see the iPod from then Terminal? As in:

cd /Volumes/somebullshithere

If you can, and you have a Mac or a *nix machine it should be pretty easy.
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Posted: 7 Jan 2012, 1:33amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
anyone got any experience backing up ipods?

just had my nano replaced, so i am looking to get some stuff off my ipod classic and put it on my new nano.

it looks easy enough to find all the mp3s, but they are all listed as a 4 character filename which has no relation to the actual name of the track. is there anyway to rename them as artist_trackname.mp3 in a massive batch?

This nifty little program can copy tracks off your pod to the PC, in fact it can manage all file operations to do with an iDevice. It's a good, clean iTunes replacement.

SharePod
khemPosts: 16,665
Posted: 7 Jan 2012, 11:36amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
im on windows. asked in the apple thread as the ipod is made by apple.

the copying part is easy as i can see the files in explorer, it is the filename issue that is more of a problem.

sharepod looks like it is gonna do the trick, cheers for that.
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Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 11:31amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
also copypod is another. But I think it cost $$
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Posted: 15 Jan 2012, 1:08pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
There is a awesome apple reseller open down glenelg now, full service centre and stuff if you want RAM upgrades i here they are pretty well priced i think they are called NEW WAVE SYSTEMS.

Hope this helps

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Posted: 15 Jan 2012, 2:29pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Nice, that's good to know. Definitely doesn't hurt to have a few more places around Adelaide for competition.

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Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 12:35pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I've only used the service centre up on Glen Osmond Road and not really had any issues with them.

The service at the shop in the city on the other hand is shocking.
Posted: 2 Feb 2012, 8:15amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Hi All,

New Wave Systems Glenelg
3/15 Moesley Square
Jetty Rd
Glenelg
5045
www.newwavesystems.com.au

Look these guys up they do a heaps good job and don't charge stupid amounts!

They sell ex-demo stuff to which is cool!
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 1:52pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
So... I've just moved and finally have the internet working in the new place. I can connect via ethernet, but my trouble lies in connecting via AirPort. I called my ISP (Adam) and they helped me a little bit. They're now telling me I need to contact Apple -- which I'm hoping won't be necessary.

I've removed my old wireless network settings from my machine to avoid any conflicts. Using my wife's Windows machine I have now managed to get hers connected to wi-fi. My MBP still won't. I am getting full bars of coverage, but in the Network Preferences it still has AirPort listed as "Not Connected." It also says this: "AirPort does not have an IP address and cannot connect to the Internet." I assume this is the root of my problem.

Please help me. I don't think I can live in a world without access to the internet from my couch.  :sad:
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 1:59pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know

 You could try setting the WLAN Ip address manually in the Airport settings.

 Airport > Advanced > TCP/Ip > Configure Ipv4 manually > Set ipV4 address to something like 10.1.1.5 . tab past subnet mask and it should auto populate > set router to 10.1.1.1 then hit OK.

 
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 2:13pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
You could try setting the WLAN Ip address manually in the Airport settings.

 Airport > Advanced > TCP/Ip > Configure Ipv4 manually > Set ipV4 address to something like 10.1.1.5 . tab past subnet mask and it should auto populate > set router to 10.1.1.1 then hit OK.

 

I hope you posted that from work.
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 2:26pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I just tried that, but still no luck. I got this message:

"Invalid Router Address, The IPv6 router address must consist of 8 hexadecimal numbers from 0x0 to 0xffff, separated by colons."


Will I hurt anything if I throw in random combinations?
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 2:44pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
Disable IPv6, you don't need that part.

If you consider wasting time to be "hurt" then yes, you'll be hurt if you put in random combinations.
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 3:11pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I just tried that, but still no luck. I got this message:

"Invalid Router Address, The IPv6 router address must consist of 8 hexadecimal numbers from 0x0 to 0xffff, separated by colons."


Will I hurt anything if I throw in random combinations?

 You are configuring the ipv6 address mate, change the ipv4 one.

 Yes Oliver, posted from work :lol:
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Posted: 7 Feb 2012, 4:20pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
I just typed a response, but couldn't post it as I lost my connection altogether on the MBP (ethernet as well for some reason).



I misread your initial response, Stryke. I did make the suggested changes to IPv4, but added the second part to the wrong section (IPv6 > router, instead of IPv4 > router).

IPv6 is now disabled (as per Oli's instructions), IPv4 address is set to 10.1.1.5 and IPv4 > router is now set to 10.1.1.1



After doing this, my Network Preferences now shows AirPort as connected (which I hadn't managed before), but I'm still not getting an internet connection via AirPort. I restarted my router and reconnected, but still nothing. I then typed a similar response to what I've written above, but somehow lost my internet connection via ethernet in that time. I'm typing this on my wife's machine, but still can't get any connection on the MBP (although AirPort and Ethernet are both still listed as connected in Network Preferences).
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Posted: 9 Mar 2012, 12:25amSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
i've done something similar it seems, you had any luck rya?
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Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 12:14pmSubject: Re: The Mac (+ Apple) Thread Redux - Tips, Q&A 'n' Things You Need To Know
hopefully someone can help with this iTunes one.....

just reformatted, kept all files/iTunes library etc. However any track i attempt to play now, it says it can;t locate the original file, would you like to locate it?

I thought if i still had the itunes library, and dragged it across, it would pick it up?