Rumble to the Jungle' DnB @ The Vine Inn hotel, Nuriootpa, Fri July 17th

Time for the next barossa drum & bass night at the Vine Inn. Its been a sad past few weeks with the loss of a good friend to the community who was just beginning to make an impact on the barossa dnb seen.

Jarrod "Motive" Biagi who has worked with me putting together each of the previous shows at the Vine Inn, will be sadly missed after his car fatally left the road. He was responsible for all the sound and assisted in the promotion of the event. On top of that he had started mixing himself under the name Motive and picked it up remarkably quick playing the intro set at the last Rumble to the Jungle.

This show is not only dedicated to our friend, but also our 1st birthday of the event.

Dj's:
Hyper Haje
Hykus
Deadly
Kadava
Rayda

Free entry
9:30pm til 2:00am - Vine Inn Hotel, Nuri.

RIP Motive  

I'll def be at this one Always good fun!

Awesome to see Haje is gonna be mixing too!!

  RIP Buddie XXXX

Cheers Mandie!!   Yes Haje will be attempting to mix, lol. couldn't turn it down, ill do anythin for Jarrod 

You will rock it girl I'll be right up front for your set yaaayyy!!!

ahhh i love ya chicky 

I'll be headin up to mc bv this aswell. Should be a good show.

Bring it on

would love to come but its the same night as sauce. would be good to see rayda spining again.

Yea will be good to see him behind the decks again. Told me he was playin at this last weekend.

heres the flier...

Gonna have to come down and give Corey shit. Must be about 5 years since he hit the decks.

Big up Rayda.

he'll get too stoned

Yeah i dont have the net at home so only jumped on at work today and realised it was the same night as sauce but not much i can do. I'm sure Rayda will be keen to get on again, still gotta get you up here yet too :P

It hasnt been confirmed but if we decide on the big room the sound system we'll have will be rather large...

Doesn't smoke weed anymore. He's a good family man these days.

fuck off that can not be true!  oh my god

Ha ha . No way? Serious? Ray = no weed?

He can be tempted on the odd occasion but as a general rule he's a good boy nowadays.

woo large sound system :P

Gonna try make it up for this. Haven't been to a show in the Barossa for years.

Im down yo!!!

keen 2 see ray. cant remember the last time i heard him spin.
watch for trainwrecks! 

can't wait for this hyper haje is gonna smash it up

cheers mandie!! but i dunno im not the best!! lol just doin for me Jarrod :P

Nice one Ray Ray, would be great to see him back behind the decks.

Yea mate. Cant wait! Been a long time since i've seen him play.

Big Room! 

yayyyy!!



this is so exciting!!

i reckon I ill def be getting a hotel room this time. Got to get my drink on!

 

I'm definitely heading to this with a few of the older DnB crew.

Time to show these youngsters how the BV got its reputation.

haha i reckon rayda's on last, but i can put him on earlier if you old folks cant stay up til 2?
 

yayy! only 10 days to go

We'll be on day 3 by then so doesn't matter what time he's on.

Dancefloor poo mast?

yaaay your comin down early to spend some time with us yea??? bring ur records :P

This will be wicked. I cant wait 4 the show. So many ppl comin out for this.

It will be good to get some feedback from some of the older crew that started pushing dnb in SA, things that we're doing wrong, things that we're doing right etc. Just go easy on the negatives if you have any

I can be the most positive guy around if the bribes are sufficient.

haha, i dunno if i have the kinda cash that would take 

Don't think its cash thats gonna ensure Noddys favourable opinion. Or at leat I can think of other 'services' you could provide for the swing vote!

Anal?

haha i reckon bruno's already left australia  

I think the needles could get a good work out as those records of Rays will be nice and dusty.  Big up the old grey man!!

Ganna be a good show. Cant wait for this.

2am is just too early... and who's house to trash afterwoods? 

I'm up for some trashing.

Mostly of myself though.

yaay lookin foward to it!!

Nervous but.....

Only a couple sleep left

can't wait! After uni this week it'll be awesome to get out!

KC's bday tonight.... smashed as will be good tomoz thats for sure!

Bring on tonite.

Look out.... heading up to this too. Looking forward to seeing old mate Rayda play.

Sounds like all the old crew will be there.

It's gonna get messy.

Ah nice one. Meet ya bv the bar cous.

Absolutely crank'n night! Cant wait for the pics! Thanks to all who rocked up, Pase and Chip on the mic and Ledz for jumping up for a spin! Big thanks to Rayda for sending us out with the last set and everyone that got out the lighters for our last tune to remember our friend. We woulda rocked the heavens thats for sure  !! Well done to all, the place was trashed!!

and a thumbs down to the spoons starting fights, hope you die in an aids fire! 

didnt make it but heard it went off.. pretty keen to get on the bill for the next one

haha, we had a fair pricey setup and probably wont have the big room again for a while... thats if they even let us through the door for a next one...

Had lots of fun Jarrod would be proud of you guys for setting up such an awesome show Thanks again Mark and co.

Heard about the fights too Not cool!

Awesome nite. Thanks for havin me along for it. I'm sure ya jarrod was watchin down and woulda been impressed. Ray killed it. Was good to c him on the decks again.

The big question is why would you even want to do a show there again. I know it is probably the only venue option available but you almost need to decide if whether doing no event is a better option than doing something at the Vine Inn because Friday night was horrible.

I'm not having a go at the music here, as that side of things was really good. The set up was decent and the 60% of the crowd who came for the drum&bass were awesome and the atmosphere on the dancefloor was excellent. The problem was with the venue and the rest of the crowd who came simply because it was the Vine Inn on a Friday night. In the hour & a half I was there we saw 6 fights, most of which involved 4 or 5 people, the last involving more than 30 (in the main room with furniture & bottles being thrown). On top of that we watched a person get run over in the car park at the end of the night whilst someone else tried to smash in the windscreens of a few cars. Unfortunately the crowd the venue attracts means that neither myself, or any of the 20 odd people I came with will go to another show no matter how good the music is.

I really don't know what your options are because I doubt any other venue would be willing to take on the night now which is a shame. I know it isn't your fault and it sucks that a percentage of the crowd ruins things for those who want to hear the music. Maybe one option you should consider is introducing a cover charge for the night which would hopefully keep some of the feral element away (or at least in the other bar). The people who love the music will happily pay and as an added bonus it means some coin is available to help with the set up costs.

Although at the end of the day, the youth of the Barossa are a fucking disgrace these days and no matter what you do you probably can't avoid what happened. A bunch of inbred ferals, wannabe gangstas & a shitload of shazza's is always a recipe for trouble and as long as these shows take place at the Slime, this will always be an issue.

Perhaps you should start up a 'Hot Fuzz' type City Council for the greater good?

Wow! that from a lover of the Barossa!  I haven't been to a show up there for years but always had excellent time sad to hear that those days are long gone. 
as for venues, how many heads do you get in? There's a joint in EV I remember going to but dunno if its big enough or even still standing these days.

The Vine Inn is a sweet venue just run by a cranky bitch and her shark husband that hired 6 security guards that we're shit scared all night. Thats why people we're allowed to get out of hand.

Always looking for another venue that could hold 250-350 people and do a cover charge. The people there for the music were fine.

There was 400-500 people there, get that number anywhere and you'll have some fights, especially with next to no security, you'll lose a few people by doing a cover charge but still finding a venue up here is the hard part.

the old winery in EV is still standing but not big enough for a public event.

i dont know anyone that got into a fight there from any of the groups up here, there we're different groups from northern subbs and gawler, maybe some of those guys had it out for eachother.

They were definitely all locals in the fights I saw.

The security definitely didn't help the problem though. When we rocked up we saw two guys fighting with security out the front who then let them back in the venue!!! In another incident security were talking to a guy when another bloke jumped over the security to punch the guy in the head - security let the guy who threw the punch stay.

The Vine Inn is a good venue yes, but it is still a venue which attracts the dregs of society so there will always be rough element to the crowd there. A fair few of this people go out looking for fights and pretty much hoping something will happen.

The bad part is this all detracts from what could be a really good DnB night. The music was rocking while we were there and as I said earlier the dancefloor was cranking. There were a few too many MC's talking way too much but you get that at most shows.

I couldn't agree more but unfortunately the minority of egg heads had to go and f#*k everyones night.
I remember a time when you could go out in the barossa on the weekend and have a great time with mates but these days I feel that it's not worth the risk of getting involved in a fight with a gang of young punks or any of the other crap evolving in the barossa.
I was out the back carpark when the lad almost got run over and I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I think the security should of at least been doubled and the local police are useless.

I had a great night and the atmosphere on the dancefloor was just friggin awesome.
I was trying to think of an alternate venue in the Barossa but there isn't really anywhere that you would fit the amount of people as well as the alcohol lisencing.
I can't wait for the next Rumble but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if thats the last one in the Barossa.

Haje did a top job of gettin straight into it and building a solid start to the night.
Kadava loved ya set man,some nice dub amoungst it!!
Pase and Chip tops on the mic.

It's a disgrace these days. I'll only go to the Club these days because everywhere else is just full of idiots and you don't feel safe at them.


The thing is, I don't think a venue that size is necessary. I think the night would be much better and more enjoyable if it was a smaller crowd of dedicated DnB heads. I would definitely prefer to see a $10 night with 150 DnB crew there for the music over a 400 person free night with 200 dickheads & the problems that come with them.

Cheers Clint!!
I was very happy i mixed how i did :P Jarrod would have been well proud!! and the last track Pieces went off, that means heaps!! got the lighters crankin!

i didn't see any fights... must hav been way parro lol. what dickheads tho, im pissed off they would do crap like that at a tribute show.

I was talkin to Mark about tryin to look for another venue, might go on the hunt i think charging lik $5 entry would be the go, hopefully get rid of all the wankers

$5 isn't high enough,couple mates of mine who were there were astounded at the quality of the night,they were comparing it to some top dollar events.I'm sure $10 won't break the bank of the true dnb fiend and will help with keeping out the imperfections of society.

   
Yep the Barossa night life is not a safe place any more.

Cheers Clunk wish i recorded it.

I can remember a few fights at Juiced at the club, and out at Keyneton and EV partys too. I was pretty young back then so didnt take much notice of it.

The fights i heard were the same groups and kept getting re-ignited as more people from either side got involved?

In the end if these tag alongs were stamped out from the start of the night and there was double the security there wouldnt have been many fights. Theres only 1 decent security guard in that place.

Definately going to have to do a cover charge when we do something again, i just wanted a free dnb night in the barossa where everyone could enjoye good music. Plus being free its given people a chance to listen and learn about it and ive met some really good people that have taken a real liking to the style of music through this event which wouldnt othewise travel to town and stumble across it.

its just disapointing that a minority of people can fuck it up for so many...

I am genuinely surprised to find out it had one.

Agreed. I've got to admit, it was a real shame to go back home and to see that kind of crowd acting the way they were, especially given the circumstance of the evening. I think its been 5 years since i've been out in the barossa, boy how quickly things can change!

Id hardly say the barossa isnt a safe place? There we're alot of really good people there, almost all of them besides a handfull of trouble makers that kept starting on eachother which is just put down to no security.

Its unfair to the 95% of decent people to say there were 200 dicks heads there seriously.

Was a shame about the fights. I remember rocking out to the last track to turn around and see the place erupt with dickheads trying to prove something. Id have to agree though a cover charge is the way to go.  Might stamp out these oxygen wasters. Big ups to all that played though you rocked it. 

Big ups to Kadava for tryin to put on a free show! I think thats fantastic!

thanks man, we all pitch in and bring together an awsome show, just unfortunate that it grew to a point where it attracted a few spoons.

totally agreed!!! 

 Surprising that a night Called Rumble in the Jungle would attract trouble.
 
 

 

next time,no spoons, don't care about price, and i'll go.., 'til then, not interested in being anywhere near arguments and violence, apologies Juice at the Tanunda Club ( when i played anyway) was what i know the Barossa for, all crew chill and having a good time, but yeah, that was years ago, also didn't see any scuffles for Q's 21st at Keyneton either...eventually "spoons" will stop finding things to beat each other up about and they'll end up where they started, with no friends...
other than that, it reads like a cool night !!

I think there will be spoons where ever you go, there are a few dicks in the Barossa nowdays, but as Kadava said, majority are heaps good people.
Also I got told there were a few fights at the juiced shows?

hi i'm known as a "spoon" ask around , but i don't start or want to be involved in fights... so yeah there are spoons wherever you go, but there are different types of spoons...

If there were they can't have been anything major because I went to every Juice and don't remember one. As for there being spoons at every event, I've been to literally hundreds of events over the past 15 years and I saw more fights on Friday night than I have pretty much seen in this time combined.

Please don't take this as an attack on the event, but a fair chunk of the crowd at this show wasn't pretty. It definitely wasn't just a handful of offenders either.

I think what is most disappointing, is whilst the older crew were genuinely shocked at what they saw on Friday night, the younger crew didn't really see it as being all that bad or out of place. That says a lot as to where the Barossa has gone in the past 5-10 years and that is just so sad.

your not having a go at the event, just most of the people that attended... thems fighting words :P

I'll smash you cunt!

 

I'm sure you know what I meant though. The DnB part of the night was great & the junglist section of the crowd were there for the right reasons. But from where I was standing they were still only maybe half the crowd that was there.

lol true, well true being different types of spoons anyway  

There were def more fights at this show then any of the others, which is sad considering it was a best mates tribute show. pissed me well off

i guess all we can do from here is try a new approach and hopefully word gets round that the people that start shit "aint cool". I'll let you know when its safe to come back up 

no one believes in P.L.U.R. these days...

That was the worst thing about it imo. Especially considering the big fight broke out whilst Pieces was being played and Jarrod's mates were really going off to that tune for him.

I may have a venue for you guys which is out of the way and perfect for a 200 person show - it is an awesome space that would be fucking amazing for a show. We would just need to come up with a plan to guarantee that only the right people would be present because it belongs to a family friend and any trouble would obviously be something I want to avoid.

PM me your number Mark and I'll get in touch.

did anyone recognise any of the fight starters or know of any of them?

Just have uncle mick at the door, that should stop a few of em gettin in lol

Didn't know any of them but had seen most of them around the place at one time or another.

maybe invite only? keep it well underground. fights were disappointing. i got caught up in one walking past inside and copped an elbow.
they spilt my drink.
i have asked around and every place says the same thing. dnb attracts the wrong sort of ppl. wtf?!?!?
shit attracts shit imo. keep them out and it would be fine. i think its a case of pissed up bogans with too much testosterone. get a life.
nice set 2 mark. was rolling nicely.

I just dont understand that logic. I've been to hundreds of shows and very rarely have I seen a fight and of all the fights I have seen it would be impossible to lay blame on the beats. Just have a yobbo detector on the door! "Sorry mate not with those shoes" used to be a classic! Maybe its time we started deciding who we want to get into the tunes rather than just giving every tom dick and harry the bring in!

cheers writa. the crowd was rockin. chip & pase were doing a supurb job too!

we had 360 people at our show last year on the 19th dec, no trouble, no fights, no problems. nothing but smiles from fred and verity as they counted all the cash in the tils. all they had to do was organise a few more security guards last friday and actually KICK people out causing trouble (not let them back in as Noddy saw) and we wudnt be having this discussion.

but managers will always find a scape goat (blame the music) to cover their asses and wallets...

Is "spoon" Barossa Lingo, wtf is a spoooon? lol

there is no spoon

I thought its origins were the type that are fed with a silver spoon!  as in kids of rich folk who have no real values for anything or anyone.  Although I don't think thats a baroassa region specific lingo so they may have refined it a little more.

haha... what melvin said, i dunno where it came from, but its deifnately been around for a while. spoondick.

he...he...he SPOON 

just found out my folks spent the weekend of this event at the Vine Inn and they were quite unimpressed. complained about being kept up til '2 fucking a.m.' and had fights break out in front of their room.

the establishment upgraded them to self contained apartment across the way, free breakfasts and a dinner and a bottle of wine and dropped the price considerably. they said there is no way they will be staying there again, and this is only one case scenario.

just for your info.

yeah it was an awesome stez!!

 

Should have considered themselves lucky.

I would have told them to harden the fuck up.

Still with the management getting guest complaints like that putting them out of pocket (kinda) by having to provide all those upgrades to placate them (there may have been other people doing the same thing as Fluke's folks too don't forget) in addition to the events already described means things don't look good for you guys promoting this.

If that location Noddy speaks of is a winery/cellar or something that would be an awesome place for a show (dare I say wicked for a rave) if it happened...

Sounds like it was an inventfull night. Unfortunately i couldn't make it.

haha you coulda party'd all night then complained in the morning and got a free brekky 

sounds like a plan

what do you seriously expect by staying right next to a pub on a friday night though?
lights out at 8 and birds chirping in the morning?

If the pub has shit like that goin crazy every Friday Saturday night then they should tell the patrons in advance!

"just be warned in booking sir that our establishment is well known for making a shit load of noise until the early morning hours and unfortunately we didn't have the fore sight to place our accommodation in an area insulated from the dick heads we attract"

I'd be pissed if i'd planned a weekend in the world renowned Barossa Valley to find out the accommodation I'd booked was a fuckin rave party!(okay I probably wouldn't mind but you get the point!)

it was more the fact that there were loads of drunk/abusive/shouting/fighting people just outside their room, for all hours of the night. mum was just saying she thought someone almost busted their window as a result of fighting. and at god knows what time for extended periods.

if you think that this should be expected/tolerated.... i dont even know how to finish the sentence!

no way...after working 2 years at the pier down glenelg, there is now way in hell we would tell anyone about the pier one bar being open until 2 in the morning + half an hour of wankers shouting out the front waiting for taxis after it closes...

to me its like saying 'i know you want to book this friday and saturday night, and most probably won't get disturbed at all by the noise from the bar - as only about 5 - 10 rooms from the 190 we have ever get disturbed, and chances are you won't be in those rooms, and we won't find out until the actual night wether you will be booked into one of those rooms, but hey, our hotel GOES NUTS AT NIGHT AND THERE ARE FIGHTS EVERYWHERE! - still want to book?'

Sorry I forgot to put a  at the end.

I don't really expect a joint to point their in adequacies.  Money comes before all, I know that.
However I've already talked two people out of visiting the barossa(Sent them Mclaren Vale instead) and my aunt was booked in to the vine next weekend but after a chat she is now looking else where.  I know the venue will only look after their pocket when it comes to this issue but word of mouth can make some lethal advertising

"omg did you hear that there was a dnb night at the vine last friday? the barossa is such a dangerous place go to mclaren vale instead!"

Chopper says HARDEN THE FUCK UP!

edit: by the way, when my sister and brother in law booked they were warned about the event being held and we're offered to stay at the motel down the road if it would bother them. but once again, not my problem if some desk chic forgets to mention that to a patron booking a room.

I think thats awesome. Most places wouldn't do that so its great that they do give warning to people.

And bevan cut his arm off for a dare! Fuck hardening up!

photo's up on inthemix. big thanks to laurence for the top snaps once again!

heard the other day by a few ppl that the big fight at the end was all Gawler guys

Wow, I feel so proud for them. they must be really proud of themselves too... Change the name of the event...something like " tupperware party in the jungle "
So Kadava, now Haje has told you this. Why don't you tell them ( the "gawler boys") to put on their own party then ? That'll make things better won't it ? See how they react to that...

I dont think it was just a bunch of Gawler peeps belting other Gawler peeps.  Some Barossa lads were definitely involved. 
Besides appart from just not advertising in Gawler how do you prevent a bunch of gawlerites from entering your show?  Sure ID scan and refuse entry on the grounds of upbringing!  I know a few Gawler peeps that do a fantastic job supporting the music they love and I don't think they should be persecuted for their neighbours.
So in general how do you selectively advertise to get the crowd you want?
Noddy's suggestion of invite only was great but still pretty limited.
Jacking up the cover charge cuts out all the people looking for a free time but only half of those people are of the sort to cause trouble.

I guess I'm just trying to say that I admire Kadava for trying to put on a free show, exposing music to those who cant afford it or aren't willing to commit the money to it and I think its disappointing that it turns out this way

out of all the great places to stay up there why would you choose the wacky vine inn.. seriously.. its a pub.. go get a real b&b

BAHAHAHAHAHA

 



Arrrr

ahahahahaha

Love it.

thats it. who would pay money to crash there unless they planned on getting hammered that night? its not extactly a romatic barossa getaway, you'd do better the back of a panelvan at the top of menglers hill