aint armand for sale!

well i tracked this down for a lovely customer but seems they dont have the cash

so now its for sale

aint armand by arman van helden.

please fone 8232 8696 inbound drum and bass for details

not that I'm interested, but how much???

yeh classic that one i wonder how much it is

I had an argument with a dude on sat night whether or not it could be considered DnB/Jungle

his side of the fight was "errr actually if you know anything about dance music, you will know armand van helden isnt a drum and bass producer hes a house dj so it makes this not drum and bass.... its house"

All i could say is Armand van helden does fricken hip hop too but it doesnt make this a fricken hip hop track does it

 

 

I hate the bloody song... and now that you mention it, I don't really class it as Drum & Bass and it def isn't Jungle.

what is it then?

 

I know it is put in the Drum & Bass genre, but imo it shouldn't be.

 

Pray tell why not?

To me, it just doesn't sound like Drum & Bass... sorry, I haven't heard it for over a year so that's the best explanation you're going to get atm.

So what genre then in your opinion
 

The shit pile genre... I don't know, let's just leave it at "I don't like it!!!"

 

http://www.discogs.com/release/37598

all good bro just stirrin

how about we put it in the drum and bass defining moments pile, along with Hide U, as both opened up a whole new world of drum and bass music

it's not drum and bass..... fuckin hell that's a comment for the ages

It aint DnB - Its just fucking horrible.

IMO of course.

 

hey, just cos you dont like something doesnt mean it's shit

I'm aware of that, but defining moment in Drum & Bass... 

it does come under the category of club jungle classics though

And it did fkn open up a whole heaps of new ears to jungle just like kosheen did to DnB

arggh its just opinions thou

id pay $ for it as the track means something to me and thats all that matters 

that is a good point

you could probably argue the same for 'twist em out'
it was huge, shite and one of the biggest sellers ever!

I disagree. How can you call it a defining moment in DnB?

It was never played, listened to, or even recognised anywhere outside Adelaide. We are pretty much the only place on earth that got into this track.

Hell, Armand Van Helden didnt even remember making it when I spoke to him about it a few years ago. He found it hillarious that it was actually big here.

Shudders...

I reckon i heard it 5 times at the first Enchanted after its release

I sold my copy for $30 ... I'll be spewing if people are willing to pay more than that for it !! ;p

Was it even played out anywhere in a dnb set? I think I only ever heard it on the radio!

I would define it as easy listening jungle for people who were afraid of the real thing  

It was played out many many times!

I'm not ashamed to say I loved the track and don't mind hearing it to this day. I think for anyone to suggest it's NOT drum and bass is fucking retarded. Sorry Dave... I still you.


So fucking what?

I remember many people loving this tune and people always got up to dance to it.

the going rate is around $40-50 for a in good condition original press. I heard there are some dodgey represses going around that dont sound too good

I like it too, but for the girly singing factor rather than the dnb content 

I concur.

and that's what was so defining about it. one of the first tracks to survive purely on a vocal thang. it opened up doors people.

thankyou for proving my point

yeh i like it too 

reminds me of my chemistry days when jayse used to play it at the beginning of the night  bahaha

I wouldnt remember half of those nites though LOL bahaha

it was the tune that got me into drum and bass heard it about 2 and a half years ago and haven't looked back since

I remember it used to get played quite a bit at Rush...

This thread ties in with the RNB debate one ... the original track is Aint Nobody by Monica and Naughty By Nature

well i remember the first time mpk played it at therapy in 96. i was calling for the rewind and rewound it was.

im sure this tune got lots of crew into dnb, especially all u young cats on here, listening to fresh fm etc.

it is still here for sale too... 300 dollars

was noddy calling for the rewind also?

 

maybe, he was a dj there too.

I thought it was classed as speed garage for some reason from something I have seen along the way somewhere... Could be wrong...

Its called Aint arman because it is arman but its not the usual style he does... hence it being aint...

I have a tape from chem days (I was a youngin yes Fiction - age 14) it has this tune on it was what made me realise that this is my fav music - I had been lsitening to jungle no coast back when I was in Primary school but never knew what it was - this song along with some old goodies like drop top caddy and rock the funky beats etc was on this tape... but I think back then it was called big beat even - I have a cd that was a import that I bought from sanity at 15 which has a heap of old tunes like the above on there and it was classed as big beat I am sure... mainly aphrodite and Micky finn- man I should dig that cd up it was dope...

Good tune - I love it and have it already otherwise I would buy this one...

Yeah right.

Whats the actual price?

You sure you're not thinking of Armand Van Helden's remix of Spin Spin Sugar? Cause that was considered one of the first Speed Garage records along with some old Todd Edwards stuff.

i for some reason feel the need to agree with fluke... it's interesting in terms of the idea of why people enjoy music... mostly cos it's such a simple bit...

you could probably argue that if the vocals so great shouldn't it have had a beat to 'do it justice', but that might take the focus away from the greatness of said vocal... or whatever.  that's not what i think and i'm not trying to start a debate but i think flukus has a good point which some may have missed in bashing the song

and i don't know where the idea that it's 'definitely not d'n'b or jungle' comes from?  so what is it...

how much?

sorry hun but i think its 'aint armand'. 


And I dont think back then armand had a usual style back then anyways, he did a wide variety; house,  hip hop, remixes of pop and hip hop/urban etc but yeh you are right on the ball by saying the tune varied greatly from his usual productions.

300 bucks hebbers jebbers

50 dollars

lol


thats better

not that much better imo... but each to their own.

just sold it 4 50 dollars.

Main chord + simple break + big, unchanging bassline + sampled vocal hook from popular hip hop track...

...sounds like it should go straight in the DnB pile to me 

$50 for a track which is essentially a bootleg (doesn't the other side have a helicopter noise on it?) which will be repressed for the next 5 years is a bit steep though, isn't it? It's repressed every year without fail.

Considering Noddy is parting with rare and classic rave/jungle records (which people from places other than Adelaide will recognise) for around the same money, I think there is opportunity to get more record for your $

Or is that what records cost these days?

its in my pile. love it. always will love it. payed no more than 20 for it.
*sniff. brings a tear to my eye.
isnt it about a hooker or something anyway? rekon i heard that somewhere.
chopper noise on the flip plus a downbeat shaggy boombastic.

The original by Monica was about her, a hooker that got her slut ass thrown out on the street by her pimp daddy and Treach (rapper) wanting to help her cause he fell in love with the whore that she was.

how romantic

I've seen cheap repressings of this track on heaps of UK record sites.

Oh and I've got an original copy of this track that came from Central Station and they classed it as Jungle. Not that Central Station knew anything about anything that wasn't House or Trance!

Cheap repressing? whats an expensive repressing? 

btw Jungle = DnB = Jungle = DnB = Jungle, etc etc

Amen!

Funny shit sorry I left off a letter with my bad typing...

yeah i wouldnt have a clue what style he does usually as I am a dnb head I just no it wasn't dnb...

I dont know why I think it was speed garage I personally wouldn't class it as that but I am sure I saw it on a website somewhere when I purchased it...

There's a copy on eBay at the moment, was at $10 (I think) last time I looked. CBF finding it again though...

Its the same bpm as jungle. So its classified as jungle isnt it? I didnt mind the tune when I first herd it. I remember someone selling it for 100$ about 3 yrs ago. Not that I would pay anything close to that. But it was about as big around these parts as any pendulumn tune ever was for the non dnb heads. Imo

There's a massive obsession with this track in the Riverland.. I remember Sav could never find it and Sarez bought a second copy to shit him. Then Sav went and bought one for about 300 and about a month later bought like another 10 copies for about 10 each!! Poor bastard! 

The track is worthless without the vocal.