Drum&Bass scene - Violent!...?

I was gonna post this in the 'what has made you laugh today' section, tho fuck it, deserves its own thread.

I just cruised on past Garage Night club and seeing theyve got new owners, decided to check it out and its availability for use as a suitable venue for shows for interest sake. When asked by the owner/manager what we had in mind, i mentioned d&b and she immediately said she wasnt interested because "everyone she knows who has dealt with drum&bass nights has had too many problems" and asking what she meant by that (thinking maybe "too much drugs, not enough drinking") she replies "fights, brawls" etc

In all the many years and literally several hundred times Ive been clubbing at d&b shows I cant think of a time ive seen a fight. Ive heard of a couple of occasions, but damn, its not exactly hiphop is it? :P

So who's been doing the fight club smack downs then??? is she thinking hip hop because it has drums and bass in it? and i didnt say "d&b" for her to mis-hear me as R&B. lol

its more so the women having the fights in dnb these days lol maybe she thought it was rnb jayer

perhaps she thinks actual drums and bass guitars? in other words rock bands etc..


I think the dnb crowd has got to be the safest IMO.

really? Thats a shame, Garage would be cool to have some nites there.

It isnt the first time Ive heard DnB having a bad rep though, a few years ago alot of the DnB followers were into hip hop or the rave culture so they might have looked a little more serious and "outside the square" then, however its really changed and these days its a diversity of people going to DnB.

Dunno about the fight comment thats wierd. I mean, DnB in general has a harder edge.... and maybe somewhere along the line she has been scared off.

If somehas never encountered the sounds then I can see how it would be intimidating for some.

  I can't remember any fights ever.

i've been known to 'spit it' in the past

I smash cunts!

Few fights that last time pendulum played a DJ show at Earth.
Just when all those commercial/alternative type heads rolled in and took over the place.

me neither
i never saw pab in action

good for you

I'd say fights at DnB shows would've dropped by 99% since james died lol


Bless him

so true.

you loved the attention

yeah it was great. idiot

Maybe the owner/manager reads this forum and thinks people will behave as they do here in the club?

Karaoke bars are the real killer

why would you say that? 

We have been told "under no circumstance" are we to play DnB at a certain club because it attracts violence.

What a load of shit, Cargo has fights every night and they play mainstream rubbish.

??

next time ill make sure i put an adequate amount of emoticons next to my post to make sure you or no one else automatically leaps to the conclusion that im being serious

did you see him afterwards at all? there was nothing funny about it from whichever side you look at it.

it'd be like if your child was felt up by a family member. would a few emoticons help you to see the humour?

a joke is a joke absolutely. but that was assault, not an embarrassing encounter.

no, i can honestly say i wasnt there when it happened (or the other time).
all i knew about it was that pab made a complete fuckwit of himself, alienated himself in the process and that patch was blameless.

it wasnt meant to be humour, more dry sarcastic understatement at pabs expense.



apologies jules if you took offence, none intended.

yes, we can all learn from the incident that indeed, pab was a jerk.


sorry that you took my defence the wrong way mate.

thats ok mate, you just used the word 'jerk' which means you get a gold star for the day

underused word IMO

moving right along!

i dont recall witnessing any fights at any dnb gigs, ever.

i can remember one, was at black cat. reckon it was at raiden.




the dnb scene went down pretty much after that.

i have never seen one at a dnb show. i think at the last summer enchanted the heat got to all the gear heads and there was a rumble.

yeah, vague recollection of that.  i think i ended up with the dudes hat!

Maybe stories of the Dylan vs Del incident have spread beyond the scene?

I'm with Quaz though. I've only ever seen a handful of fights in my time and I'm pretty sure James was involved in all of them.

 

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*puts on some Slim Dusty*

lol yeah he didn't mind did he

Lol... I've seen more fights at Chalkers at Marion than even at hip hop shows. Can't ever recall seeing a fight at any electronic music related thing I've been too.

Never seen a desent fight at any 'electronic music' show I've been to. Only fights I've seen have been at regular club nights. Although the dance music awards did attract a fair bit of attention for violence

 

The majority of dnb lads are real softies, perhaps it is the ladies we should have a moral panic over 

Not including the obvious incident, I've only ever seen a couple of of fights at the DMA's - one at the awards and one at an after party.





















James M was involved in both!

pretty sure that was just whenever you were mixing at mojos

The only violence I can remember seeing is some guys taking a few swings at eachother in the middle of the dancefloor at one love about ten years ago.

I love how you can be amongst a bunch of big tough looking strangers but feel completely safe 

I saw some biffo at Bukem this year...

Then again this is Melbourne

I remeber Franky G-Rimes and a mate throwing a few swings at Enigma once. Good times.

Heard WA gets a fair few ruff and ready crew to D'n'B shows.

Maybe we don't slam dance hard enough

Yes, I use the term 'electronic music' show very loosley, as in any form of music that isn't played by a band and isn't hip hop. The only slightly significant thing I can remember is two munted cunts with arms flailing*


*albeit very slowly and uncoordinated

ha ha, I know I got dragged out of Aquasky for being 'too violent' (not that I recall any of it) and they still let me back in so I can't have been that bad.

Yeah Westo has made a couple of notable contributions

the first whiff of a slut and the claws come out

i've seen bankc bitch slap a guy at 7 stars for dissing dnb

I've seen you and your brother fire up at Rush.

Something about him having a big nose???

Funny shit.

lol no way. We got chucked out of inbound on one occasion for engaging in fisticuffs with a couple of others out the front, and there was that time at the scepter james threw a table at a guy cos he was sitting near our female friends and wouldn't pull his pants back up

lol ahh remember the dude with the pants down, what a knob, he had that coming

lol yup. The staunchest of the staunch

The worst violent encounter I have had at a dnb night was some guy bumped into me and didn't say sorry....



Since then that club has banned DnB forever!

you say it like its an achievement to be proud of...

I saw some young chickies throw down in front of the stage down at Andy C a couple years ago...

Was quite amusing... 

sigh

first comment was a joke trying to say that I have never had or seen a violent act at a dnb night - always chilled

second comment was a sarcastic comment about the attitude of club owners towards drum n bass...

Dude!!!

Don't you know you have to use  if you are attempting to be funny/sarcastic/take the piss?!?!?!?!?!?!

Oh....


 

Like you are an expert in that!

 





oh, hang on

















































 

Apparently the universe had to use a smiley today so we would know not to take it too seriously...

Todays society. Sad isnt it.

what?!?! you didn't use a smiley???


omg I can't tell if you are being serious or not - ahhhhh (head explodes)

quite a precious lot, innit

Oh... and like you're not?! HAHA

Please refrain from using unnecessary punctuation marks. Also note the distinct lack of smiley's used in this post. I am 100% serious.

Calm down peoples!


This is just another example of:

Drum and Bass = Violence




 

What? Are you saying people here actually listen to drum and bass?

Some of us mere mortals forget to do this. I do it all the time!

edit: 

 

that's rich.

Come on! Surely some sarcasm can be implied without the use of a fucked up smiley face? Like if you read a sentence that seems too offensive or stupid to be serious, assume sarcasm is implied!

fight,fight,fight!

I think in my 4800 posts, I've used the teef thing once




i felt so dirty for it-never again!!

 

Is that enough teef for everyone?

As for fights, haven't seen a single one, barring the one at the DMAs.

I've seen a few open handed slaps, but that was usually about 5am at St Pauls and they were Timminists.

Whats a Timminist? Ive never heard this expression used before.

A Rin Tin fan perhaps? 

oldskool candy raver crew innit?

e.g.

yeah Dirt Dave is the ringleader i believe...

Hardcore fiends in particular I think.

Ha ha. Yeah he leads the pack. He is the Trizz oracle!

Definitely not old skool.

Just a bunch of hardcore ravers from the Rush days.

I kinda thought the kids who went to Rush called themselves "Hoover Crew".

Man I had some good times at Rush

ive never had a prob at a dnb show....

whenever i've been out to a housey, trancey shit thats when i see fights and tough guys staring everyone down...

at dnb events people are all generally there for dnb... not for all the shady rise stuff

That was more a System 6 thing. They were around at Rush but the Timminists were the die hard rush heads.

I havent read all of this thread just the first few posts - I had felt like this too as one of the reasons I like dnb is because there are less fights and also because there are less sleazes generally speaking... its more about the tunes...

But in saying that I can think of a time where I stepped between a Local DJ and and International before there was a punch up (I wont name names as I am sure you can find the thread if you look hard enough) - it wasnt nice - It made me very disappointed at the fact a local dj and an international would start when our scene is so tight - Over the sub genres of dnb mind you - ironic really with all this talk of sub genres as of late - Here I am sticking up for both High contrast and Dylan for the fact that it is dnb while they are getting al macho about which sub genre is better... Its all dnb

The only other time I can think of is when Tonic was open and the bikies would try and start with anyone they could (pissing on the floor and flopping their chops out doing what they could to intimidate everybody around them) That night wasnt nice either...

Made me take a step back from the scene I love as this is not what you want when you want to go out and have a good time...

Maybe Garage is thinking of the shootoing at tonic (wasn't it on a dnb night by chance?) it would make dnb look bad even though it had nothing to do with the shooting...

the tonic shooting was for their saturday rnb night they used to have.

no, one of the shooting incidents was only minutes after me and simon had just left tonic, on a funkshop night

thats what I thought- I remember cause I was going to go that night and thought thank fuck I didnt go when I heard it on the news...

same here, i was about to go & decided against going.

I wish I did the same, I ended up going and shooting some kent

AHhahahaha

ahh, i forgot about that one.

gee tonic sure knew how to end a party.

we went and we survived, shit we had a great fukn night as well and didnt get shot.. lucky us hey

You musta played some shocking tunes! 

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calibre got beat up in canada.. no good

That's fucked.

You bastards!

Fuck that’s commitment to still play his set the day after considering the 20 stitches and having to have reconstructive surgery.

You sure Calibre wasn't playing at the Vine Inn?

that's fucked up - what a bunch of cunts!

 Lame.

thats fucking awful... what sort of cowardice prick would do that?

he makes such calm and beautiful music, I would not be suprised if his tunes go a bit darker from now on

Scars on his face, hey.

Alana will be jumping him in a different way next time he comes to town.

 

tough guys

or to have 'spit on' you dirty cunt.

yeah our friendly reporter paul d from ch 10 was asking me to give them a news story .

lol "yeah and the fat wog said to the skinny wog........"   You could have been the overnight success!