Sniffer Dogs Now in use in Hindley St

 Thought this may be relevant for a heads up!

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 General talk is ok but please don't get too specific

 
    Sniffer dogs bust Hindley St strip


DRUG detection sniffer dogs used along Hindley St for the first time on Saturday night helped take more than 80 ecstasy tablets off the street.

Two specially-trained dogs were used to detect drugs along the entertainment strip after State Government laws allowing their use came into effect two weeks ago.

The dogs helped police arrest and charge an Aldinga man, 26, in possession of 68 ecstasy tablets and an Ingle Farm boy, 17, found with 18 ecstasy tablets, with trafficking a controlled drug.

A Tea Tree Gully man, 18, was also arrested and charged with trafficking after being found with amphetamine.

Most drugs were found on people, with a small amount found inside a car.

Eight people were issued with expiation notices for possessing cannabis and smoking equipment.

The two dogs, plus another that was not used on Saturday night, are also allowed to enter pubs and clubs.

Superintendent Thomas said they would be used in licensed premises in the future, but could not confirm when.

"These dogs have been training since 2006, to throw them into an environment such as Hindley St on a Saturday night, where there's plenty of noise, activity, I think it's a very good test."

"They've proved their worth."

Superintendent Thomas said most owners of licensed premises were supportive of the move.

He believes the dogs will significantly increase the chances of being caught with drugs at city nightspots.

"The bottom line is the use of these dogs is going to make the ability to deal drugs at a street level far more difficult," he said.

 

Well done...

What a waste of time and money.

Do they seriously think this has made any difference?

Fucking idiots.

Exactly.

Fuck this country is going down the shitter seriously.

Getting worse every day.

They will make a difference, just like the drug driving laws it will change the whole going out experience.

was just on the news said they are over the moon with the results and will be using them at schools as well lol

Nice doggy! *pats*

yay

can they get dogs to sniff out gunpowder in order to take the guns from all the shootings off the street and actually make a difference to public safety? 


the current police commissioner is a zero-tolerance f-wit and we have ann bressington in parliament. great combo.

 Absolutely. Great point.

  huge dent.

Time to hang another banner...

what an absolute waste of taxpayers money

80 pills? fark thats huge

theres prob 1000 pills that get consumed in the CBD every sat night

You're not appreciating the wide scope of this particular amendment.

80 pills is nothing more than saying a big hello the Controlled Substances (Drug Detection Powers) Amendment Act 2008.

Check it out. Some prime morsels in this baby.

After section 52 insert: 52A—General drug detection powers
(1) A member of the police force may carry out general drug detection in relation to—
 (a) any property in an area to which this section applies; and
 (b) any person who is in, or is apparently attempting to enter or to leave, an area to which this section applies; and
 (c) any property in the possession of such a person.

(2) This section applies to the following areas:
 (a) licensed premises or a carparking area specifically provided for the use of patrons of any licensed premises;
 (b) a public venue or a carparking area specifically provided for the use of patrons of any public venue;
 (c) a public passenger carrier or any place at which public passenger carriers may take up, or set down, passengers;

[...]

(6) A member of the police force exercising powers under this section may—
 (a) enter and remain in any premises or place necessary for the purpose of exercising those powers; and
 (b) give such directions as are reasonably necessary for, or incidental to, the effective exercise of those powers.

Part 25 public venue means a place where members of the public are gathered for an entertainment or an event or activity of any kind... but does not include a church or place of public worship.

It's a cracker and I would recommend your getting acquainted with it.

so slang ya rock at Churches


got it

I wonder if Church nightclub does class as a church? Or St. Pauls for that matter. Handy to know though. If the police rock up at your house wanting to search for drugs when everyone is off their tits, say it's a party worshipping god, hence a place of worship.

id like to see that hold up in a court of law

I reckon I could pull it off.

you're already pullin it off IMO

 

psy parties would have no problem god-wise

Should arrange a group of people to walk up and down Hindley Street with dog whistles. That'll sort 'em.

what about people who have innocently been up at the firing range training with their legitimately registered firearms (and thus are coated with gun prwder residue)?

we would be unduly harassed in the street

with a pocketfull of schmackos

 

Moral of this story: carry sausages or some kind of smelly dog food at all times!

i haven't heard of many big drug driving busts pretty much from about 2 months after they were introduced. i don't think it's changed a thing personally.

who on here has been drug tested while driving?

i know, these weiners will give me the quick energy i need to escape!

never even seen one!

Do they really do that? I kind of thought they'd at least make you stop and open the window, or go one step further and make you stop and get out of the car.

hahaha.

and walk the street squirting water pistols filled with bong water... ought to throw em off a bit

Patrol cars can do it randomly now.

We can all make jokes about this, but I seriously wonder how sensitive these dogs are to 'distractions' like smells that might change behaviour of 'normal' dogs, etc...

I also wonder what kind of penalties or risks there are in trying to distract the dogs or somehow make this whole policy more frustrating/less effective.

still though. when was the last time you heard about a big over the limit drug offence?

i've seen em set up on lyons rd near me on a weeknight..

I've been tested while driving before. Once. They even set the dogs through the car. Said dogs had quite an attraction to my mate (he smoked weed about a week before) and had to strip, bend over and cough in the van. Probably a good reason not to carry dog food in your pocket I'd say.

This was in Victoria though. Tbh the amount of times in the last 6 months that I have driven back from the city on a friday or saturday night (usually between 1 and 6am), I'm surprised I haven't seen a cop car. I think I saw one once driving the opposite way to me. Haven't seen a big drug/rbt in ages. Although I did get pulled over by an rbt on a weekday around noon once. Seriously how many fucking people drink drive in the middle of a work day?

i went to an outer-northern high school and there were sniffer dogs that went through classrooms and our library at least once a term.

they picked up the smell of stuff from my school bag, but i never got caught. hahahahaha suckers.

So you were one of THOSE kids at high school? 

did they cup his balls aswell?

look who's talking! i assume you were one of THOSE kids too?

nah, i was a social butterfly - the only group i excluded was the 'popular' group - who were a bunch of a-grade bullies. hangin with the drugies was a self-preservation tactic. they ALL dropped out by the start of year 10.

Haha I wasn't actually. Didn't discover the joys of mary until I'd finished school.

I was basically a certified alco though. I took my year 12 business studies exam while half drunk

I got on with pretty much every one of the 'groups' at my school as well. The popular group would have gotten the shit kicked out of them if they tried to bully people though

i got an A for a speech i gave while tipsy lol.

what happened was, the drugies group, or the 'cancer club' as teachers called us, threatened to bash people who bullied me while they were still around. i somehow managed to stop them though! but as soon as they dropped out, they bullied me with pathetic liners like 'triple gay', witch, freak etc etc.

i am glad i went to a school with rough-ass dynamics. it taught me a lot more than any in-class crapola.

Sorry for being slightly off topic, but I reckon that would be an awesome name for a porno!

 

Rob might dig it 

Haha! 

ill be happy to screen it at the next sauce show

mmm... saucy... 

sniffer dogs now used to sniff out anal loving freaks

Haha I managed to get the best mark in the class for the exam. Of course it did help that the major essay question was to describe the roll of a HR Manager, which at that stage my old man had been doing for the past 15 or so years. Reckon I got 97% for the exam in total

Giving or receiving?

Just trying to work out if I should be nervous or not.

Wait they called you names like triple gay in year 11? Jeez kids are fucking immature hey. On that point a fair few of the kids I work with a fairly immature. Seriously we need to go back to the old days, where you're an adult at 14.

I used to get called a Satanist occaisonally. Mostly because I listened to "devil music" (i.e. RATM. Thy didn't even know about the real devil music I listened to )

I used the old druggy technique at high school as well though. I still got beaten up a fair bit though. Mostly just stupid immature shit like full dacking in front of the whole school etc. When I went to Boarding School I got some nice bruises quite often though. Probably explains my bdsm fetish.

Also "Warning - while you were typing 8 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post." Fuck that.

good stuff! 


yeah, because i was one of two people in the school who listened to triple j. they were all safm sheep. baaaaaaa!

My God that sounds like something you'd do in year 3. It's the radio for christ sake. On a note of showing immaturity many of the year 11's where I work give me shit because of a small speach imediment I have. When I get stressed out and there are lots of things happening I have trouble pronouncing words correctly. I used an 'sh' sound instead of an 's' sound. Pretty sad really.

they were real neanderthals. they thought i was a witch FFS! real small-town mentality. and now many of them are adding me as a friend on facebook - PATHETIC!!!

my 10 year reunion is due this year. lol.

I have been tested about three times out this way, I have about three friends that have also been caught with 'stuff' in there system.

Lol, you can see it as well as hear it! 

do you and your friend live in up north still?

the most targeted areas are 'low socio-economic' suburbs. a lot of rich people get away with it.

Still in the north yes, they are always set up around the traps. We just avoid main roads etc if we have had a big night.

It doesn't matter which way you look at it there is still a % that die from driving under the influence whether that be drugs or alcohol.

I would be more interested in knowing how many cars are on the roads vs how many deaths.

It's all well and good to say more people died this year than last, this means nothing unless you take into account all factors considered, which the media and the government rarely do with statistics. It's all twisted to suit them.

Random drug testing isn't just about catching offenders, it also discourages people from driving in the first place.

I know of a person who has stopped driving whilst stoned since drug testing started.

I was sceptical at first due to complaints of inaccuracies in the testing, but it's not that bad a thing to have if it changes peoples attitudes.

Bingo.

how many is a bingo ?

Who cares how many cars are on the road compared to deaths? If its only negligible should we stop improving our road policing methods? 
Random drug testing and sniffer dogs may cost a fortune but thats unavoidable. I'm sure if the oinkers could swab you effectively without a $50 test or loyal Labrador then they'd be doing it.  The way they are using the dogs is ridiculous and the time and place they do the tests is stupid but I don't think they should abandon the testing altogether.

That's not what I said.

What I was getting at was that comparing the road toll to what it was was last year or ten years ago without taking into account all factors is just ignorant.

Sorry


I find it hard to read your posts John. I seem to pause on your avatar at the begining of each line and completely forget about what I was reading. lol

I wonder what the percentage of drivers would be?

Just because someone died 'on the road', doesn't necessarily mean they're the one behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Or would they only test the bodies of the drivers for drugs/alcohol?

as much as i love a smoke
its always shitted me when i hear 'but im a better driver when im stoned'
lol, as if

I dunno dude, Bill Hicks makes  a pretty convincing argument

i think you are because after being a stoner for years it becomes normal. when you are straight you are bad tempered etc. i drove stoned for years and never had any issues.

lol
I went for a drive after eating some cake and ended up parking on a round about waiting for it to turn around. Sat there waiting until a car drove around the roundabout and I realised what was happening.

 

Jesus. I can barely walk after eating some tasty delights. I remember an AM member & I running away from our own shadows back in the day.

Rob?

same

last time i did it i went blind for about 10 mins

A ha ha ha ha
 If your not taking the piss thats a pretty fuckin hefty symptom! I mean holy shit dude Fucking BLIND? for real? That would scare the fuck out of me!

well i wasn't actually fully blind but my eyes were more slanted than most of the asians there, and red and puffy as hell, so my vision wasn't the best 

I went blind for a couple of hours after taking datura.

Tad scary that was.

Ahhh datura; if nothing else, it is always guaranteed to leave some stories for the next day.

had you gotten to the stage were you were at the hospital or were you just hoping to sit it out?

I was definitely thinking hospital but with nobody else capable of getting me there I found flooding the house and doing a somersault through the window a better option in the end.

    

A friend on datura called the (real) police because a gorilla stole his stereo... the police were pretty good about it!

I lol'd for real.

 

Oh shit I am crying with laughter after reading that.

 

rofl @ Noddys last

nice input guys, i used some of it to write up a follow up article/opinion/rant thingo

http://www.adelaideclubber.com.au/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Sniffer-Dogs-Making-Our-Streets-Safer-.html&Itemid=35

I'm yet to see one sniffer dog on the streets since comming here, and that was over a year ago now...

The only place I've seen sniffer dogs in Melbourne was at the Big Day Out.

And whist there is violence on the streets in Melbourne, It's not as bad as the Herald Scum tries to make out, as I've only ever seen one fight in one club here, and that was before Bukem (fucking dnb... )

Oh, and at Public Enemy and De La Soul, but the Espy was so ridiculously overcrowded and utterly terrible on those nights, I almost punched someone in the face for pushing in front of me...

Whats violence got to do with sniffer dogs? If that were the case they'd be using german shepards.....with guns

i have heard of someone djing at earth who got asked to turn the music down so the sniffer dog could come behind the decks and sniff through their record bag...

  

Obviously looked a little to happy to be playing his favourite tune!

not last friday but the fri before cops went on a blitz, they went in and closed down/locked up 3 clubs (not at the same time though) and did a mass search on people with the dogs (including the DJ's) for stuff, before unlocking the doors to the clubs again, allowing the DJ's to start the music again and then leaving. They apparently did this to electric circus, earth and Live. wonder how many huge drug dealers they busted lol

Of course big time drug dealers always hang out at night clubs! I'm sure alfonz was there and the carl williams' of Adelaide always hang out at Eletric circus! 

Yeah Bukem will do that to you.. Hes like the Necro of the D&B world from what ive heard.. hes stuff is way too energetic...   

I swear I saw a post by Fluke about sniffer dogs in melbourne and he mentioned violence... maybe it was another thread... maybe it was the datura...

i posted something about the very high use of juice at big events in Melbourne, they pretty much expect loads of ODs. like for one show at Sidney Myer on the Thursday before Daft Punk they had 15 paramedic attendance ODs because of the stuff. i think they (sniffer dogs) may be prevalent in Melbourne in an effort to prevent/curb recurrences of such behaviour.

Um... that doesn't sound right...

I was at EC when they shut it down. From waht I saw they really only went after three or four people in the end, with only one person not coming back in. Needless to say upon their entering there were a lot of people downing things very quickly...

and i know for a fact Live and Earth were shut down too from people that were there that told me about it after

I'm not saying it didn't happen... it just sounds wrong, like they shouldn't be able to do that.

Cops have been able to lock down a club and search patrons for quite a while now I believe. It happened to me at Earth once a couple of years back, before they even used sniffer dogs in public.

 I remember reading something a few years ago that they couldn't just search you for no reason if you refused the search (this was off a south Australian legal website). It was around the time of a Winter Enchanted where they were searching people in toilets and in the venue. Something like they needed a judge to approve the search.

 The laws have probably changed though.

I made a post about that in the weed thread.
Thats a current website for SA, so yea, if they stop and search you, you can ask to have the search 'ok'd' by a magistate.

lol but refusal of a search is grounds for suspision

If you have stuff on you there is nothing to lose though.

Let them search you and get caught or ask for the magistrate and buy some time or maybe make it too much effort for them to go ahead.

yeah ive heard you can refuse a search unless a justice of the peace is present? which means they have to take you back to the station to search you (which hopefully they cbf)

And hope to ditch your stash en route to the cop car!

Think now with grounds for suspision they have authority to do a spot check or place you in custody. Hard to keep up with how fast human rights are disappearing and 'protection' laws are flooding in.  Don't even need a warrant to search your house now, so many clauses its ridiculous!

"any nation that values security over freedom deserves neither" ben franklin

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i though dogs were supposed to be mans best friend...

clearly not then.

The irony of that quote for the US is amazing - and from one of their great Presidents no less.

Only retrospective irony because back then freedom was actaully valued rather than bartered for.

 Except he was never president. I learned that from the US version of The Office.

  Indeed. He was president of Pennsylvania.

Obligatory Tobi promotes his world view moment...

Most of the founding fathers were classical liberals, and didn't believe government should intervene in much at all. Shame about the whole democracy thing.

Amazing how far progress has taken us!


I guess technically but he was one the founding fathers and served as the longest running president of pennsylvania I think. Think he's listed as the 6th president but if the question was on 'who wants to be a millionaire' I dunno which way I'd go.

Go with no, because then you'd still be on the show by the next ad break.

"So you've chosen A, are you sure about that?"

*punch*

  Well there ya go.