Unexplained Phenomena

Stumbled across this website today: The 10 Most Puzzling Ancient Artifacts and I was pretty amazed! Some of the items I've read about before and some I hadn't. The grooved spheres in South Africa were a new one to me, the fact they're found in billion year old rock formations is quite puzzling! The early technologies like the battery and spark plug that were 'lost' are also very bizarre...

These types of things have fascinated me since childhood and I thought a thread devoted to these mysterious types of findings (and there's been some well known hoaxes of note also) would provide some interesting discussion. Finds like these seem to transcend both religious and scientific theories and usually point at extra terrestrial origins. Whatever it is, it's baffling.

Post up any interesting links and your own stories and theories!

the grooved spheres are super cool!!!

ooh nice debates on their origin..

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html



http://www.badarchaeology.net/data/ooparts/wonderstone.php

I just think we simply don't give ancient societies enough credit.

This idea that culture and science can only come from "civilised" societies is a 17 century myth invented by the nobles to separate themselves from the growing lower class and the african / asian "savages". They dismissed them because they had hierarchies and slaves and worshipped gods and demons - the antithesis to the modes of understanding that arose in the C16 & C17 (the so-called "enlightenment")

After all, it was the peasants and farmers who invented most of the technology that allowed human kind to prosper and grow. The plough and the potting wheel weren't invented by kings or queens or scholars.

The more we uncover about history, the more we learn it's not cut and dry. All you need to do is watch timeteam to realise most of the ideas we have about the way human society was organised during the iron and bronze ages is in fact wrong, and humanity was far more intelligent and technologically experienced than what the early historians believed. For example, there have been so many women-warrior burials unearthed around the UK that the idea war was just a man's role has all but been demolished.

It's highly likely that because of much of our understanding of history comes not from looking at the entire history of humanity, but from interpretations and translations by a small group of 16th and 17th century european men and study of merely that source material, that it is in fact, quite wrong.

Although a lot of what is in that list is probably bullshit - given that most of it was discovered in the 1930s, another time when discoveries were politicised for various reasons. (link)

And another example: those spheres could have easily been made naturally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_Spheres

Actually, I hate to snopes you, but so far everything I've looked at on that list seems to be either natural, non existent, or simply a hoax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ica_stones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coso_artifact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_spheres_of_Costa_Rica

http://www.catchpenny.org/model.html

http://www.badarchaeology.net/data/ooparts/cube.php

I think that people can be so easily fooled by this relates directly to what I mentioned below - we don't give ancient civilisations enough credit.

Yes that's so true... no one in the past could ever be as smart as us 

And people assume that something couldn't have formed naturally if it looks like something humans could have made... like those "roads" on Mars!

ooh yeah i didnt say the spheres weren't natural, its just that even the scientists arent sure how they formed!!

and yep, ancient societies were pretty sophisticated! and interesting too...

I think the wonderful thing about ancient civilisations was that they were very honourable, very famly orientated and very loyal to thier "crew" or tribe or whatever you call it.

Proper lacking anything like that in todays society, people arent even that patriotic anymore...

Reason why I mention that is because that brings people together, and when people come together they talk. When they talk they do good things, or bad but mainly good, and have good ideas and invent things etc....

I think we could do with that more now, we only seem to get together to work which benifits our boss, rather than society as a whole. If that makes any sense what so ever 

The unexplained phenomena I want an answer to is why did lexy stop posting??? 


Yeah it would be good if we had some kind of forum that would allow us to discuss things with people on the other side of the world hey 

ahh this place is a rare kind 

I think mass communication has played a big role in this. Before the advent of television and the internet people would've been more patriotic in some ways because they would have no exposure to outside influences and thus been more protective of and aligned with their own countries.

Anyway back on topic. I looked up those spheres after reading them in that list also and there is a fair bit of controversy hey! It's quite feasible they are naturally formed.

I think many ancient historians would have had their own agenda with what and who they recorded so much of our history could be radically different. Politics are always going to be an issue that taints the truth unfortunately. Take the more recent example of Tesla and Edison. Despite the fact Tesla actually invented the light globe and made greater inroads into electricity before him, Edison's powerful political and industrial allies conspired to bury Tesla's superior AC current technology and in some cases steal his ideas. Obviously the fact that Edison was a born and bred American boy and Tesla was an immigrant didn't help the cause. Imagine if it had happened during the rise of Communism! I doubt we would even know as much about the events as we do!

thats true! also, edison employed people to invent shit, and then he kept the patent in his name. dodgy fuck!

tesla was the coolest. specially when portrayed by bowie in the prestige

i hear dubstep is getting a bit of a following.

explain that!

Low level bass frequencies have a soothing effect on the central nervous system?

low level bass is perfect for subliminal messaging and mailable stoner's are the easiest target! 

 

Surely that is a hoax. That pregnant guy was more convincing than that.