AM + 5158 present: Your Jealousy Remix Competition - AND THE WINNER IS...

The competition is now closed and it is time for the Massive to vote for their favourite remix!

5 tracks available for review from http://audio.adelaidemassive.com/rmxcomp/

If you would like to vote, please reply in this thread using the following guide:

1st preference = 5 votes
2nd preference = 3 votes
3rd preference = 1 vote

Voting will be open until Monday July 14th.

Remixers: you cannot vote for yourself! Also, because of the small numbers of entries received can you please PM me your votes. If you post your votes in here then it means there are only two other tunes that could be yours, and we are trying to keep it kinda anonymous until the votes are tallied.

Don't forget Mark 7 will also be choosing a remix for inclusion on the next 5158 CD, however to be eligible for the CD the remix must be drum and bass.

1st  - Song 3

2nd - Song 4

3rd - Song 1

song one
needs more progression, bass seems overly muffled and indistinct. needs work on the mix down as it seems very empty/echoed at times, and for such a beat driven track it doesn't feel right. second break down works really well, especially with the vocals, pity there's not much track after that. think about your structure a little more maybe.

song two
really like the work on the break, pity the samples/pack used for it is so b-grade. the progression of the tune seems a bit weird, focusing on strange use of samples over the top of already laid down patterns. maybe focus more on progression of the music as opposed to the amount of samples/patterns you throw in the mix.

song three
awesome work on the break! nice use of layers across bass/sub-bass, and even 'filler' sounds. technical ability is really down pat, but overall it just doesn't quite gel together as a piece of music i would listen to. having said that i would be fuckin stoked if i could make something as good as this. keep on doing your thing, cos you got potential.

song four
absolutely love it. i can't fault it, i just want to play it louder! proper BOH! i would buy this no question, and i am a picky cunt.

song five
great job of making something to work with the vocal. nice use of mixing your background atmospherics in/out of the tune. really good work overall. keep at it!










5 votes - song four

3 votes - song five

1 vote  - song three

  Khem you bastard put mine in the comp im not even half way finished its so much better now

oops i thought you said it was good to go

my bad

  fuck off u did haha

listened to the tunes good work on em think they need some more samples from the pack m7 gave out so its recognized as a rmx track 4 only sounds like it has one sample the vocal and its only like for 2 secs as good as it is

imo tho

artist names??


remix 4 ftw... cant really compete with that

names announced after voting is finished

give us ya preferences so we can make your vote count!

Nice remixage!

5 votes for remix 2
3 votes for remix 3
1 vote for remix 1

nice to see a bit of variation in there, really enjoyed the dubstep tune, shame it wont get considered for the CD.

VIVA LA DUBSTEP!!!!!

so fluke which one is your remix since you seem to be such an expert????

 

good point.. so if this remix wins.. whats the deal? I know the Dubstep Fam will be happy.. but.... oh what am I saying it wont win 
I am going with  ...

Remix 2 = 5 votes - respect for entering it in
Remix 1 = 3 votes
Remix 4 = 1 vote

What the fuck? Since when was it wrong to give constructive criticism? I know if I had entered I would have considered his post more useful than anyone elses so far. He was actually quite positive and humble if you read all the comments. Including the fact that he claimed that a few of the tracks are far better than what he could hope to make. It's disappointing to see that more people haven't given their own ideas, and certainly worse that people should be struck down for being kind enough to do so; considering one of the major factors of such competitions is to foster improvement. Maybe I missed the part where Kurko coerced people into agreeing with him though.

will hopefully post something abit more detailed and do the points thing but the main issue with the dub step tune is the vocals don't fit, other than that it sounds good

Aww man what about tune 10,that shit's off the charts! 

Tune 5 - 5 points
Tune 3 - 3 points
Tune 1 - 1 point

yeah no shit. can't believe i got flamed, even by someone who has 'just joined'.

i have actually spent tonight at my house with the bloke who made the dubstep tune (actually a good friend of mine) and have offered him advice and software before he actually told me it was his tune, nonetheless!!

someone else give some feedback please (!) instead of blowing smoke up someone else's arse for the sake of a fucking genre!


fuck me!

Good old post on AM.

Once the winners are announced etc, I will run my commentary on these tunes, I thought all of them were creative and of a quality that could be played out at various times of the night.

Good work everyone, looking forward to Khems/my announcement.

Bigups

7

wish i could of entered my close to finished copy so much better than the one on ere

5 votes: remix 3 - good use of vocal, although i agree with the others the tune doesn't 'mix together' as well as it should
3 votes: remix 4 - Would have got higher marks if it used the sample more. Apart from that its solid, not a huge fan of the synth but im just being picky.
1 vote: remix 2: love the dub but vocals dont fit at all

the vocals are hard to work with thats for sure

5 points to track 4
3 points to track 2
1 point to track 1

CBF explaining my choices, thats just the way it is

woops, sorry kurko, that was so meant to be a joke.  thought you would have got it, was going to tell you what i wrote yesterday at the pubcrawl but thought it would be funny to see your reaction.  you know i repect your opinions.  didn't realise you wouldn't know it was me (jenna) and that it would upset anyone.  sorry to all for the offence   

all good jen this happened last night at well past drunk o'clock

Apologies for the fit of rage, I didn't realise it was a joke.

Don't close the voting till I can be fucked posting my opinions!! :shakesfist:

Got these downloaded now. Will probably give them a decent listen tomorrow. Also at me thinking how shit these songs are sound quality wise, then realising that the are playing a tad fast as well. Stupid WMP playing the songs at 1.5x.

do some people gonna vote?

No punters?

I promise I'll get onto it tonight. The dog won't let me at the moment.

keep on voting!!!

i've received a few artists votes via pm, havent replied directly as yet as i have been away all week... but i got em!

vote ya slackers!






for me
 

Track 1 - Good work overall. The bottom end became a bit muddy, too much kick over the bassline clashed a little. Could have been a little more creative with the changes between song sections (became predictable), but overall good structure. Love the effect of a well-placed cowbell!

Track 2 - Cool, catchy loop. Great effort at a cross-genre entry, vocals well used in the entry. Needs more cleaning up, but certainly an entertaining song. Became a little same-samey after a minute or two. The little string hook fit well.

Track 3 - That intro is so Depeche Mode! Some great elements behind the song, but just missing that important one that really pulls you in. Some really cool sounds created, a few more various samples or experimentation with the pack would have really opened up the outlook on this one. Great potential.

Track 4 - I'd probably buy this if I listened to it on vinyl.. massive track!! I'm sensing a little "I've just used a song I've already been working on and entered it into this comp anyway" ala the last remix comp, but not my place to judge. I'm not sure if this ticks enough boxes for me to count as a legal entry - didn't use enough of the sample pack elements throughout the track for my liking. Very professional sounding though. Sure has a nice dirty, techy vibe to it - the stand-out for me regardless of my critique.

Track 5 - Nice laid-back roller, simple but effective beat. A little too minimal for me - needs some excitement to grab the attention. The vocal is very well used, sits nicely. I get the impression that the producer here didn't quite finish their work. It sounds like a solid start, but just needs more work.


Great work from all. I don't think any of my shit would have competed with the entries we've had. Thanks for your efforts, crew. Overall, my picks would have to be...

Track 4 - 5 votes
Track 3 - 3 votes
Track 1 - 1 vote

almost out of time to vote...

i'll be entering my votes and tallying up the totals tomorrow after work so you still have around 24 hours from the time of this post to get your votes in!

I think everyone did a great job considering some tunes can take months to construct and these people only had a time frame which can obviously make it difficult to get your ideas out and into a tune worth entering. Good to hear the dubstep making it in, nothing like a dark horse entering the race, good to see someone with the creativity and not just follow the pack.

5 votes - Track 1
3 votes - Track 5
1 vote - Track3

I didn't check out the sample pack so my vote is based purely on the quality of the tune overall.
I was impressed by the quality of all the tracks. I saw Motion trying to 'finish' tunes while he was here and I know you could spend days just fine tuning... and that's when ur finally happy with the structure. I especially dug the dubstep bit, but it was just too minimal for my liking. Otherwise it could have possible scooped my 5 votes. Bigups everyone who put in the work & entered.

Here's some quick notes I made while working today.

Track 1
- Mixdown needs more work... nice but boring
- Good use of the vocal
- Good structure & use of samples

Track 2
- Vocal repetitive, could have utilized it better
- Needs more bass
- Overall good, but too minimal for me

Track 3
- Good use of vocal
- Simple mixdowns

Track 4
- Nice structure, with more work could be a mad tune
- Vocal drowned out

Track 5
- Nice B-line and synth
- drums need a bit more punch added in
- Mixdowns were too minimal
- Best use of the vocal

Track 1 - Could have used a better intro, vocals come in too loud. Nice beat, but it's getting a bit repetetive, a bit of a bassline below the vocals would have been nice. Could def. use a better mix down. Gets a bit muddy in places. Gate on the kick perhaps? Pretty decent song structure overall though. Loved the 4x4 break part. Nice drop.

Track 2 - Reppin' the Dubstep. Love what you've done with the vox on the intro. That kick roll in is awesome as well. Only suggestion here from me is maybe the snare/clap sound a bit quieter? Bit of reverb and a small slapback delay maybe. Loving this. Everything fits in pretty well IMO. The only other thing I can come up with is maybe EQ the bass a bit? Needs more lows and less low-mids.

Track 3 - Not bad. Not really my style but decent song structure and composition. Got a bit boring fast though. The samples/ synths you used maybe. They just sound too much like a sequencer demo song to me. Nothing particularly bad about this song, but nothing stood out to me either.

Track 4 - Wicked intro. Like the fill to the first drop there. Punchy kick is awesome, maybe needs to be toned down just a tad, also maybe more compression to help it fit into the mix more? Loving the bass here. This tune is so good, if only the kick sat in the mix better this would be fantabulously good. Seeing as this is a remix though the vocals need to be that touch higher. Give this song a decent mixdown though and it would be tops. Awesome structure. Awesome composition. Love it.

Track 5 - The whole lot just didn't seem to fit together to me. Vocals way out of the mix, drums too quiet and not punchy enough. Besides that there is good use of the vocals. A decent tune, but nothing particularly stood out to me either.


Overall I'm pretty impressed with all the entries. All of them could have used a better mixdown, but song structure and composition wise they were all at least above average.

5 votes - Track 4
3 votes - Track 2
1 vote - Track 1

hurry up and finish the comp so i can post my proper tune up  damn you khem

5 votes - track 4
3 votes - track 3
1 - T5

alrighty then...

1 - short intro, straight into the drop. fairly clean sound, however i think a better mix down could have made the track gel together a bit nicer - everything still kinda sounds seperate to me. overall it was a bit repetitve for my liking. 4x4 bit was a lil bit too long for me. doubling it up, and then doubling it up again leading into the drop would have been a better way to do it imo.

2 - nice use of the vocal on the intro and in the middle where it gets chopped up a bit. some good sounds in there, everything is clean, nice variation but to me it doesnt quite hit the mark.

3 - breaks sound nice and clean and loud right from the intro, nice sense of pace and movement with the beats. the bass growl has potential but it sticks out of the mix like a sore thumb. this is the cleanest use of the vocal i have heard out of the first three tho. second bassline isnt doing it for me at all sorry. nice work on the breakdown tho - the vocal edit, halftime beat and rising sound all worked well. should have extended the breakdown out a bit longer as this was probably the best part of the tune for me.

4 - heavy beats, seriously pounding. sick bassline. this is a very slick peice of work but it does get a bit repetitive in places, even with all the lil change ups.

5 - nice  little intro, but the drop doesnt really do anything the intro didnt already do. the vocal sits over this one nicely. some good ideas in here but definitely room for improvement.


my votes

track 4 = 5
track 3 = 3
track 1 = 1


and now, the moment you have all been waiting for...


*drum roll*


Its a tie!








































for last place



Track 1 by Ambassador and Track 5 by Amano both earned themselves 16 votes each!



Strife's dubstep remix aka Track 2 comes in third place with a respectable 25 votes.



This leaves only two more remixes - Track 3 by Roost and Track 4 by Sydneysiders Sook and Distemper. Both of these remixes got themselves some big votes, however the home team was beaten by the away team!

Roost - 35 vs Sook and Distemper - 49



Big up to each and everyone of you who took the time to make a remix or listen and vote, and big up to Mark 7 for the use of the samples.

Next up will be the official 5158 announcement from my brother from another mother, Mr 7 himself... hooooold tight!

sweet funny that i got a few votes considerin no ending

heres the proper version bout 95% finished have a suss let me know if its any better than the one khem put up cheers

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=52DPEZ2M

If only you'd made it in ambo. Would have been a number one from me.

Thanks everyone for your votes, and congrats to Sook and Distemper.  It is a sick tune (send me 320 pls hehe) & worthy of the win.  Good to see Sydney crew reppin' dnb...

Thanx to everyone who gave comments I agree with most of them, the feedback is very helpful.  This was the first tune Ive this year, been quite slack in the production department but its been great to get one started (and finished) again.  I used Reason 4 for this tune, bit of a change as I normally use Cubase.  I found making a tune that suited the vocal a bit difficult, as a result the tune is different from what i normally make. 

bad luck tristen!  but well done on coming in second!

I thought so. I didn't particularly find anything bad with your tune, but for some reason I just hate sounds from Reason. It's probably just me but I've found that every song I've heard that was made in Reason just sounds like a demo song that comes with the program. Sure I read something about it before. The Reason effect or something. Congrats to everyone who entered though, all of the tunes were quite decent.

Yeah i find that a bit too man (moreso in the earlier versions) i just wanted to stuff around with the new features that v4 has.  I normally rewire into cubase when i use it.  Never heard of no Reason effect tho, sounds like a fanboy thing to me

wow last... didnt think my entry was that shit... oh well

it got to the point where my piece of shit laptop started crashing due to having so many samples in the project so i couldnt get it finished properly..

tune 4 is sick and a worthy winner. no one should be critisizing that shit its off the hook!

Coming last doesn't mean your entry was shit, just not as good as the others. I actually found it hard voting this time as all the entries were decent.

Like I said with yours the tune was coming along nicely, but it just needed a bit of a mixdown. Still good to have a go, and everyone has to start off somewhere. I know if actually finished and entered my tune it wouldn't have been up to par with any of these entries. Practice practice practice. The more tunes you make the better they will be after a while.

yeah i made the whole thing on headphones n a 4 year old laptop and had no chance to finish it..
when i bounced it to put into the comp i was getting 3-5 second lag on every command... made me so angry.. il probably finish it one day

was a good learning experience. bigups 7 for the chance to have a crack

Big ups Sook and Distemper. Totally diggin' that track.

Congrats!

Thanks to everyone for the support and feedback! It was lots of fun remixing this one,i look forward to the next!.......Hopefully 'like the sun' will be posted for remix in the future (wink wink Mark :p) Good work to everyone who entered.I imagine with a few more of these comps we will see lots of promising works and artists stepping up to the plate..
P.S. to whoever thought we had this track down already and just added the vocals to make it a remix,this is not true.We made it from scratch,start to fin in 3 days using almost all of the samples provided which may not seem noticable due to the butt-load of processing and chopping up lol! God bless reaktor i guess haha...

P.P.S  Ambo! You still owe me a gig fuka! :p

haha waiting for the right gig pipster you owe me a t shirt

Touche my good man....

Good to see the dubstep making some big votes. Didnt realise so many people where down with it. Congrats to the sydney boys winning even though your not from adelaide (just kidding). Cant wait to hear the next comp, was good to hear tunes being made from different forms of dnb (and dubstep) likers!!

Sook's from Sydney but i was born and raised in Adelaide,lived in blackwood for years..Just another bloody crow eater

dont tell fluke, it'll push him over the edge 

he wears fluro tops and goes to the top dance raves in sydney now

Yeah,we sure do love the Haus musik..

Well done everybody! Hopefully all critique will be taken onboard in positive ways. Sook and Distemper - mad tune! Like I said, if I came across it in my favourite record store (*cough* Inbound *cough*), I'd probably buy this! Born in Adelaide or not, it will be interesting to see Sydney-based producers on the new Adelaide DnB release!!


That's cool - the last comp was won in similar circumstances! I was referring to the whole track sounding so clean and well produced, yet the samples (incl vox) sat in so subtly. They almost sounded like an after-thought, I guess is what I'm trying to say. A little bit more tweaking and this one will be very release-worthy.

For those that are interested I have uploaded what I managed to recover off my harddrive of my song. This is what I bounced out after about 2 hours or so of work. Probably won't get the chance to finish this for a long time now, unless my PC magically fixes itself.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2MBWO508

Again, well done everyone... congratulations to the winners and those who didn't win.

More soon *rubs hands together*

Bigups AM /// 5158 SQUAD

7

So...What now peeps?

nothing for you 

come down for apex mate

Now we wait for Mark 7.


Again.