MCs...

I hate MCs

conrad or STFU.

Some are ok. Really depends on the music though IMO. For the more chilled out stuff or jumpy stuff etc. it can be good, but it shits me to tears listening to some of those Therapy sessions live recordings and hearing some crap MC trying to rhyme over the top of a tune which doesn't need MCing at all.

I also hate MCs...the number of times some dickhead shouting pointless shite has ruined a wicked mix 

I voted SHUT THE F*CK UP

It seems to be winning

A bit of Shabba D or skibba or similar can be alright for like 5 minute even really good.
But after that it gets thin very quickly and just let the tunes roll bitches.


But I must say Pase and G Swift get it right many a time and more

Yeah Griff and Pase are at the top when it comes to MC's in my books.

The locals know how we like it

Hate to say it but since Pab when on his family saving crusade we have really struggled in this town in the MC department.

If an MC can complement the music then I don't mind it, but if they are just gonna chat bollocks so I can't enjoy the music or call a rewinds on every tune they need a swift kick to their genitals.

I don't mind a good Mc who lets the tunes do the talking and gets a bit chatty and a rhyme here and there but anything from screaming or crap rhyming through the mix and excessive rewind calling makes me want to get stabby. Conrad smoking spliff's solid throughout a set of Bukems up stairs at St. Paul's comes to mind but that is a rare find, kinda like a needle in a hay stack. Most of the international ones are annoying as hell such as Messianin or however you spell it with DSL this year and everyone knows how annoying the ones like Skibba are and his woof woof shit. But I can remember a certain Trace set on Nye with a young local Mc shouting "get down to the underground" repeatedly throughout the set. Thank fuck he isn't around anymore annoying cunt... And Xpress on that patch digging in the crates set is gold but my god he was on another level that most people wouldn't return from.

And as much as there is no love for Pab anymore, he was the man for a long time and i have a lot of cool memories of his mc'ing and him and Griff B2B at many an Enchanted are some of my earliest rave memories but that was probably the drugs doing the talking. Griff with D bridge this year was sick. Love it when he gets on those little rambles and gets all stoked when a cool tune is dropped.

Griff's rambles FTW

Griff doing Chacaron for me @ Randall FTW

NOT




EVEN.

unfortunately i think too many of them like the sound of their own voice too much... and think everyone else feels the same.

its not like there arent good ones, it just amazes me how many shit ones there are that actually get a shot on stage, and then forget that people are there predominantly for the music and the DJ (who's also spent a fuckload on tracks)
its worse in the UK = more ego

He did "freshly squeezed orange Jews" over my set at everybody. Twice.

 

Are you serious??? I need to hear this.

Yeah, before heading out to go see Randall we were around at Labrina watching Chacaron on youtube. Was a bit tipsy so went up to Griff with 'Chacaron' typed in my mobile, then he rattled off a bit of it... classic!



No audio unfortunately...

That's awesome. Might have con him into pulling it off sometime soon.

Good MCs:

GQ
Fearless
Conrad
DRS

What about Dynamite, DnB wise I've only seen him with Roni but he's always good with Breaks and HipHop but different thing Hip Hop is.



Come on Weez
The first time I seen them both I enjoyed it for 5 minutes as I hadn't heard them before.
But after that and any time since I wouldn't be able to put up with it.

I agree with Refuse.

Kenny Ken & Skibadee at Rush a few years ago. Heaps of people were LAPPING that shit up for the whole set. Ravers don't care about content, they just want something repetitive for their OCD

Was interesting to watch.

that was a wicked night all round.

I think MC's are great when they compliment the music and don't try and steal the show with hibbiy dibby babbly snot. Crisp fresh ryhmes that flow with the music and enhance the tune rather than try and dominate it. Very few do this imo but the ones that do are sick.....

teeheehee!!

some MC's are good and really compliment the music (ie Conrad compliments Bukem's style perfectly), but some are utterly shite and don't even deserve to be on the mic announcing specials outside Harris Scarfe rundle mall

 The vast overwhelming majority of dnb mc's are pretty bad imo.

 Stamina is easily my favourite, singing, rhyming, knows the tunes as well.

 Conrad is decent, hasn't been that good the last few times I have seen him but on the Progression Sessions he is sick.

 Wrec is overrated, usually does a good job though.

 SP is usually pretty good.

 GQ is good at what he does.

 Fearless at Valley of Dreams got me hooked on dnb, but sadly he is average nowadays.

 They are the only ones that don't automatically make me cringe.

 Griff is wicked, Shann is wicked. They both compliment the music.

 Oh and trust me, it's a LOT fucking harder than it looks

 

the mc on that spectrasoul mix is fucking awesome, id i think his name is.

our locals are great, special mention to the Q although i don't see him up much. Stryke is also very complimentary to the music with good rhymes too

and xp is a funny funny bastard up there 

 Thanks mate.

 cash or cheque?

neither....wristy ftw!!

 

they'd be my pick of the locals too.

If I wanted to hear an MC, I'd go to a hip hop show or play some on my iPod

I am listening to jungle. I want to hear the music. Please STFU. kthx.

I agree with you 100% there.


Pablo had timing also. I have seen alot of Adelaide locals lack in this skill.

Nothing funnier than to see a MC on the mic trying to rhyme and the DJ has gone and turned the Mic off. Shut down! 

What about Griff and Pase???


When Zinc come to that Ultraworld show and rinsed it propper downstairs.
Verse was on the mic and he was awesome imo. Haven't heard many sets with him lately though, so unsure how his style has progressed.

I enjoy watching them rhyme also but I still believe Pab was the best. Even when I listen to old sets with him MC'ing I still get hyped.

He had the perfect voice for DnB Mcing.

 His style has progressed to pendulol hasn't it?

 Isn't he the mc in the 'band'?

Quaz would have to be standout for me hey.. That mofo is so versatile and has some fucking wickid flow

cheers mate,

It's hard to explain, but i haven't been able to do it since James died. Might give it another go sometime soon though

for the record, my fave would be Sureshock. Dude's fkn sick

Fucken oath. Still remember the first time I saw him - damn awesome.

 That was at the beach party for me, I had no idea he was coming or even who he was.

 Me and a couple of others were wondering who this bogan dude getting the mic thought he was

 He was awesome that day tho

I also agree that Pab's voice had that special quality to it that really complimented the music, I really got into sets he rhymed to. As with Erika, hearing old sets he's on takes me back to my early days, which ironically were his last few years before jetting out. I enjoyed seeing an impromptu 'comeback' performance from him a couple of years back, I think it was HQ for what might have been the Pendu/Chase & Status/D-Bridge gig?

All of our locals regularly playing big gigs (Griff, Pase, Quaz, Stryke, etc.) are very good though, thankfully all well versed with the tunes and know when to chat and when to let it roll. Always loved XP's mad infectiousness on the mic too. Newer guys like Snype I rate as well, I haven't heard too many other new guys though so I can't comment on anyone else...

Sorry double post!

Beach Party yeah! I remember all the crew were just walking around almost in disbelief saying how good is this dude? No-one had ever heard of him but he killed that day. Not bad at St. Clair's WE either, just didn't have that same impact IMO, I'd hyped him up more in my head for that one, lol.

Yeah exactly the same for me.



A couple of weeks ago my boss told me how rad he thinks snype is. Bigups! 

i like snype.

not as an mc though.

One thing I'm well over is back to back MC sets. They never work imo - at least in terms of complimenting the music.

They always seem to end up in 2 MCs seeing who can rhyme the longest and rarely do they work with what the DJ is playing.

Concur

Eminem is better than all of you. Get over it.

though you started the thread Rob, your opinion in this thread carries as much weight as Brittney Spears' at parent teacher night

really? You guys never heard him at the enchanteds before that? 

I just remember at one enchanted sure shock was going on about candy flippin or something like that. Not that anyone remembers 

Cleveland Watkiss is good too.

Sureshock is pretty good and him and kid K are perfect together it's just unfortunate that he looks like an aerobics instructor with a mic! I'm sorry to say it cause he is quite talented as an MC but I cant help but laugh at him sometimes!

Stamina comes across more like a singer on stage. He really harmonises with the music.

SP and Pace are both really good. Tight!

Dynamite has an unbelievable presence on stage. Much like a hip hop MC where he really controls the crowd and demands attention but still perfectly in tempo with the beat and quite melodic.

Skibba and Jungle

Foxy's pretty good too

Wrec is over rated imo so is GQ and Verse

i thought that the beach party set was the first time he'd been in adelaide to mc (for dnb at least)...

could be well wrong. but i'm also almost certain he wasn't at enchanted the year before at sedan. was he?


sp is always on point as far as internationals go i reckon. deeizm is well decent too. spewing she didn't make it down with makoto last year.

Sureshock's first Adelaide set was with Goldie at Beach Party, followed by Winter Enchanted at that basketball place.

Yep that's my understanding, which is the two events I referred to in my post. Never seen him since because I have never bothered to see Kid Kenobi...agreed with Melvin though, his dance movements can be unintentionally hilarious at times...

glad i'm not going crazy at least making up my own version of events.


i just remember standing with weez that day wondering who the hell he was. was an awesome show that. still one of the best i've been too. not huge, just quality.

twas all about ryme tyme

really rate  system atm  and tiki always rocks

when jakes does therapy sets hes dope

pase is prob my fav mc here compliments very well

seek is a good up and comer also but doesnt really want to do it cause the fear of bein wack lol raiden said to me enjoyed seek cause he could actually hear what he was saying

Most of the time i wish there was no mc's but i dont mind stamina, deezeem, conrad and wrec when he doesnt talk too much.

I think they should punch each other out more...

Definately


Can't really get in to Jakes. He almost sounds pompus!

Why so? It's just as valid as anyone else's opinion...

I remember Aphrodite @ Traffic once asking an MC to shut up a bit because he was pissing him off hahaha ;p

Some are ok ... some shit me to tears

It's a forum Quazz, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even though some might think it stinks. I think there is always going to be someone who disagrees with someone else's opinion and those who sit on a high horse preaching about certain subjects. Like Noddy and his midget/downie porn fetish, there is no higher authority on the subject as disturbing as it is. Someone will always think they have a higher status due to having more knowledge or experience on a particular topic. Your somewhat of a hip hop guru and you know mc's a lot better than most but when it comes to history of dnb i think rob has a better idea than you would so why is his opinion less valid, especially considering how personal a subject this is with you being an mc and rob being well, whatever rob is . Some say potatoe some say potato.

I think most of the time mc's should just turn down the mic a touch and actually speak so you can understand them more instead of blabbering on about shit and repeating the same rhymes every time you see them out. Diversity is the key here and i don't want to hear the same rhymes the last time you heard them mc. I honestly cant stand excessive hip hop style rhyming over dnb. One local in particular who does this often and should really stick to mc'ing over the other genres he is more well known for. But hey what would i know being the social hermit i am and just tell me to shut the fuck up now...

I think aesthetically an MC can really compliment DnB in the live and recorded format. You can get a hip hop type vibe from it, but I guess it's important that the music does most of the talking. It all comes down to appropriate timing, content, delivery and quantity (difficult to balance I would imagine).

I don't know if Stamina has come into the discussion yet, but I really think he brings a good voice to it also.

As for the locals, I think we have a good thing going on in the MC deptartment and we should be proud of that.

I'd rather see the locals do their thing over any of the internationals I've ever seen come out!!!

Guys like Stamina & Conrad are miles in front of anything Australia has to offer. Not saying our home grown MC's are bad, but those 2 in particular are just a completely different level.

My problem with MCs is that too often their stupid voice FAR overpowers the music, so all you can hear is someone just yelling shite, and you can barely hear the music...then just when you think the MC has shut up for a bit, nope they come right back in.

"OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYY GOSH!!"

 

Now when i see 'Live @ _____' i won't download it, unless its a serious stormer of a mix, because i just don't wanna hear that crap...

I like the local MC's because they dont talk shit like the ones you hear on most of the UK mixes and the music is far louder then their voices you can let the dj hype up the crowd rather then hearing an mc yell some shit into his mic.

The local mcs tend to MC during the break down of a track or before and after each set..so their main purpose is to hype up the crowd when the music is building.


slightly off topic, has anyone downloaded the Fabio live on radio1?   that was by far the most annoying shit i have ever heard in my life.. the cunt wouldnt shut the fuck up, and through every song he rambled on and ranted at random shit.  WHO GIVES A FUCK! I WANNA HEAR THE GODDAMN MUSIC!  /rant

I think this is lost in the modern MC. Too many MC's try to hype up the crowd by shouting meaningless babble which (as most have expressed here) is just fucking annoying. Others like Stamina sing pretty well to the music which sounds good but still doesn't have the hype aspect going for it. Griff's very much in the same vein as stamina but with more of an urban edge I feel. SP and Pace seem to hit on all these points and with clear and concise rhymes!

Shureshock at clubbers guide to breaks 04 at traffic was sick.
The had all any MC could want that night.
Such a shame he has faded away to the heaven/HQ scene.
He was such a big believer in the break beat as well.


I had been thinking that Verse was working with Pendulum sux as he was a DnB MC on the move.
Looks like he's making some big bucks now


Never really heard Pab, I was a HQ that night someone said he made a drop in (Pendulum & Chase/Status) did he MC later with Psidream if that was the same night??
Would like to hear a set with him on the mic anyone got something they'd upload?

Well put. I agree.

I don't think he's the MC in the band. I've seen him in some of their old you tube clips but I think they have a dude now. I thought Verse and SP staarted their own label or some shit


wasn't Pab Hooligan Souls MC?

shouold find a bit of pab on here i reckon

http://atem.oliz.biz/~khem/audio/mixes/djlee_out2.mp3

hooligan soul was made up of g swift and pab, so they were both mcs

verse is mcing for noisia at exit so i think he is still doing his own thing as touring with pendulum wouldnt be a fill time gig...

Cheers Khem

you think too much. Way too much

Was just giving rob shit. Nothing more, nothing less

Hmm maybe I am mixed up. Its all a blur anyway 

Beach party wasnt the first time I saw him thou. Maybe I saw him interstate or something, I dunno.

Agreed. I hate back 2 back mc's. Its not about blabbing on constantly, its about complimenting the music and helping tunes hype the crowd. You will never see 2 mc's at once at anything i put on.
SP, Verse and Stamina are the ones for me.  GQ was, but he's getting a bit too much these days, and Conrad just sounds tired and boring now.

G-Swift is on the money locally. Perfect

yeah crunch recordings and there making some seroisly dope tunes too ive picked up the last 2 or 3 releases

back to mc debate and for me verse and sp are the standouts jakes is also really good at getting a party going aswell

locally g-swift and pace always deliver and i'll always rate seek for getting the crowd into it always does a fucking awsome job at BE shows

I think the recordings don't help, even when I do recordings the mc's come out 3 times louder - and you have to turn the mic up in a club because it does get drowned, its just unfortunate that most people dont seperate desk the mic outputs and then sequence the tracks together afterwards. Then the levels would sound right, and the recording isnt ruined. Im going to try this more at our events in future, but its time, energy, effort doing it, and its not on your hitlist to do on a night generally.

HaHaHa. Cheers for the compliment. But up and comer? No. Fear of being wak.lol. I used to be into drum and bass mcing a bit when I first started to listen to drums out which spawned from the earlier hip hop I was into. But now listening to better(more intelligent) hip hop these days. Has turned me off  dnb mcing. I ain't got shit as far as lyrical content or what not goes. I get up there for the boys every now and then for a bit of fun. Thats it. I definatly dont take myself seriously At it.

As far as other dnb mc's go that I like. Because the laaaaaaarge majority of them are shit!!! International wise. SP,conrad are my picks. Dynamite and 2shy are good at what they do too.

I also like pase's more laid back approach.(which is what I actually used to dislike about his style, How times have changed) and X to the Muther Fucking P was always great fun. Griffs style seems to work really well with the crowd too.

Never liked XP as an MC. Just didn't do anything for me.

XP is the man.

He has delivered some of the most memorable performances I've ever seen. Respect bwoy!

funny random cunt indeed!

Agree
Plus he doesn't like to give up the mic or put it down, but he has come up with some classic lines.

i agree big up the X

who was that guy who was that awesome an mc that, at Traffic, he would just get up there and takeover whoever was up there just like that and spit mad lyric and leave everyone gobsmakked?

i once heard he goes by the name of Al...?

 

 Was this him?

 

Are you talking about Mennan?

"BAROSSA CWEW! STARDUST CWEW! BAROSSA CWEW!"

He wasnt so awesome though. 

 

He MC'd at Traffic if thats the guy you are talking about

nah i know mick, not him.


also, maybe i should have added the almighty....

I just think shit recordings make mcs shit, most of them are really good crowd hypes, which is what you need imo

There is no NEED about it!!!
Good tunes can speak for themselves.

A Good MC can compliment the tunes and nothing more.

Seeing a set of shit tunes is still shit with a good MC.

Fucking too right. The Mc should just be a host. Introduce the dj. Maybe hype up the crowd( A little bit). Not to excessive(taking notes for myself ). Unless you've got real lyrical skills and even then, leave it to hip hop!

I personally think you need an mc. But they/I need to no where their/my places are.
No need to flood the night with the same old one liners and what not!

MC SeEk out.

You got it right crabman. You pull it off well with the heavy stuff.

You think thats good. Wait til i rip out my vocals to the liquid!!

Doe rae me fa so la.........

yeh but its totally different going all blazing if its a "studio set" where as live sets you need to be totally different...

I know as a Dj that you need to do studio mix sets totally different to when you are infront of 1000 people - you need to bounce off the crowd.

Fuck mc's for studio sets. Pretty much no dnb mc has got the skills to rhyme over mixes. It always kills it!

i dunno - 2 studio mixes with decent MCs = Breakbeat Kaos Cd with GQ from 2003-4ish & DJ Fresh - Red mix with Darrison MC bout same time.

played those sets again & again - MC'in was no problem

Personally, i prefer the hype up MC's to help a lack-luster crowd, and the odd MC throwin in lyrics is good too -

heavier stuff.... MC's to introduce, bit of hype in the quiet, but mainly leave it to the tunes. The hard stuff has some amazing production & technicality to it, and can be missed if MC doesn't shutup (hope stapleton MC from therapy sessions is reading this)

Armanni Reign for Dylan & Limewax @ therapy in philli 2005 & Messinian (with dieselboy) @ sutpens jungle from 2002 i think, both those sets i could listen to all day - MC'in was awesome imo

MC Davox is fucking shit as well, although I've only heard him in one mix. He attempted to do some death metal sounding vocals over the mix, needless to say the whole lot just clipped to shit. I really don't think screaming is suited to dnb.

Spot on. MC's are essential for hip hop but just an extra person on the stage 4 D&B. Unless they do a bang up job they annoy the fuck out of me.

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If there are so many people that dislike MC's then why do we have to have them at every show?

Imo, because we are privileged enough to have a few quality mc's that never try and outdo the music.

i dont mind sp on the break and fierce atm could shut up a little more though

and yeah stapelton ruined 1 of my favourite sets unknown error @ therapy about 3 years ago the first time BLEACH was dropped and rewound and rewound again

Sp would have to be my favourte mc. Actually him an conrad woul be the only dnb mc's that I really like.

Sp is great but Pace is really good IMO. maybe not quite Sp but close. Both got a really good flow and know when to shut up and just let it roll!

Yeah I would agree on that

I've always liked MC chicken deluxe, although MC fries and MC coke are good too.

i've always been a fan of MC Stamina.

I miss MCs.

Melbourne doesn't seem to do them.

I've seen them advertised on some of the smaller and harder shows, but the bigger shows I've been to haven't had any.

MCs on studio mixes can have their jibber jabber compressed, eq'd and the gain set afterwards.. if your recording a set in a club its very doubtful your gonna get the mic channel separate to change afterwards..


this is true.. compliment the tunes.

I agree that its completely different for live vs studio mixes.. its the same for a dj too... the ability to read the crown n play/say the right shit is the same for a dj and an MC

I love anything lyrical. Now & then MC's can be abit overbearing, but for the most part anything lyrical is intriguing imo 

Yeh I was gonna say that he aint the greatest thats fo sure

Lies!!! - (partially)
Wobble!!
I see you have Youthman at that outback thing... saw him albeit brief... Good!
(I vote for MCs!!!!! needed at times IMO)
Can be flat all night without a bit of a rev up.

Mc's inside watch the ride and so fourth are o.k but i prefer to be taken on a drum and bass excursion so it's gotta be the one like feelman for me, seen!

 F..E..E..L..M..A..N, B B B Blow your mind! This is a drum and bass excursion! He even reps Adelaide (skyvery, Djon, Patch, the kitten)!

Werd is born yo!

The tuffest mc about! IMO

Haven't heard of him. Aussie?

mah i think he's scottish as i've heard him on the restless natives mix by Dj Kidd

hes a scott, through and through. There was on a free mix that was at inbound about a yr or two ago.





sorry maybe we should have left a few teeth there. But we the kind of cunts that want to keep yous guys second guessing!