Noddy has taken alot of time out to check what adelaide and autstralia offers in the form of drum and bass producers, he's in touch with all the cats and knows alot of them who make tunes...
This is what i was saying before too, with all the music that comes out from every country, there's no way the people who make it here, are gonna release a sub-standard product that isn't world class... think local, act global...
Yeah true, we may not have a good distribution set-up down here, or labels, record presses etc... there may even be some issues with IP law and lawyers who write up the copyright control for each artists tunes... adding a few little clauses here and there to cash-in on someone else's work, even though they (the lawyers) have been paid their industry regulated fee... we don't support greed, who wants to ?
But having said that, its probably easy for someone to make a tune for a certain all-ready established label, each label has certain creative boundaries of some sort i'm sure. What if that particular producer wants to make what THEY want ?... again, why give your tunes to someone to play, distribute etc, who ain't gonna appreciate the idea behind them ? furthermore hearing them mixed or dropped in a way that makes you cringe...
People all round the world are wary of scene clowns and snakes, even the cats from total science, for one example, say its hard for people, established or new, to get stuff on labels... and there's no way of telling which label is gonna go under, if they will or won't pay what they said they would etc... who's behind it etc, where the funds come from, there's not much transparency with things like that, regardless of your nationality, and we all know the artists who did the most work in my opinion, gets the smallest part of the revenue...
This is not paranoid or jaded views coming out here, this is fact, would someone like to call me a liar and say that ill-shit DOESN'T go down in the scene ??
Also, why would you be so worried anyway, have you gone and bigged up an artist(s) to find they haven't delivered what YOU said ( not what THEY themselves said ) that they'd do ?... is it about looking bad in front of someone ? what ? i don't see ANY problems with the australian drum and bass scene, nothing that stops producers from doing what they want anyways...
It's obvious i'm reading far too much into this very innocent thread, but have you posted a thread like this in every other australian drum and bass forum, or are you cheesed that we hold our own steez down here and like to keep things running proper till we know we can trust others...i find that people here strive alot more to achieve what others may breeze in to do, opposite the who-you-know style ( take scott hicks, still lives here and everyone in Hollywood respects him purely cause he ain't in it for fame,)... and from what i've noticed, the labels and their owners here in S.A, move as a team, and they only move on something when the team's ready to move... we don't get pushed by anything or anyone else but our own passion for music...
On a slightly less harsh point of view...
if a person hears what they think are GOOD tunes coming out, from other parts of the world, they could be thinkin...
> "... damn, nice tunes... can't compete with that, i'm quite happy to buy and play those tunes til something better comes along.."
> "... wicked finally , there's some styles i'm in to, now i can release what i think will compliment this..."
consequently,
if a person hears what they think are BAD tunes coming out, from other parts of the world, they could be thinkin...
> "... fuggun crap tunes coming out at the moment, i ain't down with this, i'm gonna look harder for stuff that suits what i like..."
> "... jebus !! is this is what's cutting it at the moment ?, is this what has to be played to get people going ?... i don't want to be part of that... i'll search for other stuff..."
this may sound toy to some, but i'd rather have cats in high school and upwards, swapping tunes they've downloaded or been sent from artists, and listening to them, than have a 12" put out... sure, producer's wouldn't get paid much, but i and many other people in this scene have jobs... we keep our music for enjoyment and good times, any cash flow from tunes is a bonus in my opinion, i haven't heard of any adelaide-based producers STOP making tunes, just cause they ain't selling or getting played by other dj's... NO, they keep on doing it, it's what they love... it's sacred, special, you know ?
... well, can't half tell i respect and appreciate my town and its scene, i love what i've heard so far, i'll be the first to admit that i don't own or play much, but $$ and time are a factor...i guess there's only so much electricity people can afford to run their studio and decks, and there's only so much room in people's apartments and on their hard drive for either djing or producing...
and i'd guarantee, when producers are ready, they come looking for people to play, master, release or distribute their stuff...
you gotta understand that there's alot of stupid shit going on in the world right now, cats are busy dealing with their own all the time...
it'd be nice to sit back, not have to work, not have to cook, not have to support families or businesses, not have to buy equipment, get everything handed to us and spend all day every day writing beats... no thanks, i'd rather do things on my own energy, time and merit, i send respect and give love to and honour the people who have supported the scene, me or anyone else i know...
hope you can see where i trying to bring this from...
by the way, did you also read MY post earlier ? or you don't give a poo like ATM's post
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