7 MORE EXTRA sins for the catholic or the regular joe ????

k i can remember a couple but who the fuck is this guy to make up rules???

1. drug taking.
2. abortion
3. obesity (always been one)
4. wealth (bit of a hypocrite considering there one of the richest religions in the world)
5.
cant remember the rest but im guessing ppl can fill in the gaps.


tosser imo.

Why do you care?

P.S Obesity isn't one of the original sins. Gluttony is.

Google is your friend

The new list of Seven Deadly Sins is as follows:

* Environmental pollution
* Genetic manipulation
* Accumulating excessive wealth
* Inflicting poverty
* Drug trafficking and consumption
* Morally debatable experiments
* Violation of fundamental rights of human nature

I'd be inclined to ask why does anyone care too... didn't really pay that much attention to the first 7. If I dont do any genetic experimenting or violating any fundamental human rights in the near future it wont be because of this list.

That looks more like my list of new years resolutions!

 

lmao Obesity


THOU SHALL NOT EAT ALL THE PIES!!

 

i like the environmental pollution one, inflicting poverty, and the violation of the fundamental rights of human nature. i'd agree wholeheartedly with those... altho, the RC church's stance on abortion and contraception means they are kinda contradicting themselves with the 'inflicting poverty' sin, cause obviously if you could control the size of ur family or the spread of infectious diseases somewhat, obviously you could increase your family's prosperity and chances of a good life. the last 'sin' is also great, i wish the trafficking of human beings for prostitution or slavery was up there, but i spose it comes in under that banner.

obviously the church has accumulated VAST amounts of wealth, so why the hell arent they sharing it more? thats a massively hypocritical point. on the whole tho, these sins are wayyy better than the last made up ones, i think that sometimes we do need to think about moral and ethical issues, the distribution of wealth, and our unsustainable lifestyles. hopefully this gets people thinking about what they do and how it affects people globally (cause it does!!), even if you arent roman catholic or even christian, these are all points to consider as a global citizen. unless you are an anarchist. or a nihilist

Did anyone see the report on ABC news last night about this? Someone there has a sense of humour, it was done in such a hilarious fashion.

I thought globalisation was in there as well - that one made me laugh more than any others.

The church is a joke.

Catholic church is idiotic.

to put it lightly

I noticed "fucking children" didn't make the list of sins.

Thats the number one on a soon to be relased list of ten commandments for the new millenium.

That's a sin?   

Make gullibilty a sin

Haha, good comment.

Ya huh!


Ya huh!





Teehehehe.

yeh i thought "Accumulating excessive wealth" was a bit of a fucking contradiction

Vatican City is bloody made of gold that place 

Also, in regards to Genetic Manipulation, does this include Genetic research? i.e. for people who have genetic dispositions?

or do they just mean "The catholic church bans ears on rats" 

Protestantism is not Catholicism so can somebody do something about the title of this thread.

Accumulating excessive wealth seems like an extreme simplification of avarice aswell. The church's views on avarice/cupidity have always defied rationale anyways.

thats what i was gonna say!

Catholicism and protestantism have equally low standings in my mind, but you're right Pseudo Coup so I've fixed the thread title.

 What a weird thread.

You're preaching to the choir on that one.

Good point. I wonder if there is some correspondence between people who enjoy drum and bass and a dislike for religion? Or perhaps drum and bass has made us dislike it? I don't have an explanation for this!

Instead of focusing on sins they should focus on a list of love, kindness and understanding, seing as they are the Church.

Ie,
*Treat others how you would like to be treated
*Smile
*Control your actions if they are to harm others
*Think before you speak
*Look after your children

etc etc.

More, a list of helpful things, ways to educate people rather than if you snort coke you're going to hell 

I believe in God, ma family are Catholic and Christians but hell, the Church is so out of touch these days its unreal.
and a huge lol @ the "fucking children" after the recent pedos found in the Catholic church.

What happened to "love your neighbour" anyway. Trying to tell me God will only love you if you are a complete little angel, and you don't skid ya pants, you will only enter the heavanly gates if your clean, white and angellic, what a load of bollocks. What about people who are forced into drug trafficing? So so out of touch. 

None of my neighbours are children so I can't follow that rule atm.

Fuck you never fail to crack me up Noddy.

Seriously though I'm pretty indifferent about the whole right and wrong thing. I do what I want to do. One of the most basic descriptions in the Bible is that Hell is a place of separation from God. If by chance there is a God, I'm honestly not too fussed about being in a place of separation from him.

Screw right and wrong. Act in accordance to how you think you should act and you will be happier in the end.

Everyone has thier own set of ethics. I believe in that.

The bible tells us that god is forgiving, no matter when we choose to ask for it.

My theory is that I spend my life being a cunt and doing all the fun things religion frowns upon, then on my death bed ask for forgiveness just in case. The whole hell thing never bothered me but after this heatwave I've pretty much decided I really wouldn't cope to well if by some miracle it did actually exist.

I have some weird views on things like murderers. I honestly think they are just mentally ill. I think 80% of the world is mentally ill. Its like we are breeding more and more fucked up people. Who then breed more and more fucked up people. Just generally fucked up.

I think the death penalty would be a good idea, but then are you then just a murderer for wishing that on someone else? Ugh its all a load of bollocks. I dont have a problem with people doin what they wanna do, as long as it's not hurting anyone. I think if that was just law, full stop, the world would be a better place.

indeed.


did god himself tell the church that the old one's didn't have the pizazz they used to anymore?



he's got a good publicist.

I think calling simple murderers mentally ill is a little bit over the top. When it comes to serial killers though, yes, most of their brains are wired differently to ours, and as they don't care what happens to other people, it would be impossible for them to become 'normal'.

Theres actually a few interesting threads about this sort of thing on this Philosophy Forum

The forum seems to be down at the moment but I'll update it when it's working.

If Dante's Inferno is a good guide though, not all the levels of hell are hot. You simply have to aim for the lower levels of hell, or the highest one.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-information.html#0

Ever read the book Job: A Comedy of Justice by Robert A. Heinlein?

do it!

I dont really know much about all of this but why do philosophers go to Purgatory Level 2? Is this because creativity and philosophy was considered wrong back then?

Anyway I am thinking I am going to hell after reading that Hopefuly Level 1 though  maybe level 2

Philosophers go to Level 1, which is pretty much a place of nothingness. Sounds pretty nice to me.

yeh thats what i meant sorry typo.

But why would they go there? Maybe the church did not encourage people who were great thinkers?

pseudo coup where are you? 

Considering most Philosophers aren't Christians they can't go to Heaven for Believers or Purgatory for Repenters. Meaning they go to Level 1.

Dante's was written as a work of fiction

So was the Bible, but it is interesting to speculate.

Yes I realise that but I was wondering why he would have written that, I mean it would definately be a reflection of the era and environment Dante was living in at the time.

It is largely accepted that these are people that weren't wicked as such, but did not accept Christ. Limbo intentionally shares aspects with Elysium (the place where greek heroes went to rest) as it serves almost as a rationalists form of heaven anyways. Heaven for those who cannot accept heaven as a concept.

That said, there is always far more metaphorical and allegorical power to Dante than I have the cognition or erudition to elucidate, so that is just the commonly accepted explanation.

Also, I can't compliment Dante enough. Read The Divine Comedy, it is a rare level of masterpiece. It is a cunt to find a good translation, but I make do with what I can. As Faust makes me want to learn German to read what is untranslatable, The Divine Comedy makes me want to learn Italian.