Chix that Mix

Ok

Some discussion has arisen in regards to girls who mix (in another thread) and whether or not they are an "exotic breed" due to being something of a minority.

IMO opinion no matter what everyone should be equal and it should be about the skills. No matter what gender you are. People shouldnt be considered a someone just becos they mix and definately not if they are a woman.

Nothing worse than watching a crap female DJ who gets a set just cos they are female. Totally undermines the point of women wanting equality in getting sets. Gotta step up to the plate if we want equality.


Pls discuss

Do guys think its hot perving on a chic who can mix?
Do we think Adelaide has enuff chics?
Is it truely about the skills? or the titties? 
Girls what do you think

chicks shouldnt mix





  nah its hot

Chix that Mix needs more Pix

if its nikki belucci, then yes, its the tits



i think girls gotta be positively encouraged a little more, but if you dont have the titsskills then it isnt really doing anyone any favours.

Agreed. I would much rather listen to a dude that can mix over a chick thats hot that can only half mix.

I think there was a stage when there were some chicks getting sets just on the basis they were chicks but over time there have been some stand outs like Ali (Stylus) and Bel and a couple of others that have made a name for themselves and deserve every set they get. Just my opinion though

female dj's are no more superior than male dj's... i totally agree that it is about the skills, and when i think about how "good" i think a dj is i judge them on their skills rather than how "famous" they are in the scene or what sex they are...

unfortunately its not always about skills though, its about WHO you know. i have heard so many people say "he/she is shit blah blah blah, not ready to mix out blah blah blah cant believe they got that set blah blah blah"... the majority of dnb dj's in adelaide are awesome. but it certainly is about who you know, and getting a set as a chick dj is hard, and i assume that it is just as hard being a male dj..

i dont think girls honestly just get sets cuz they are girls, every female dj i have seen play out has smashed it!!

anyways compared to other ppl i have only been in the scene for a short time so by all means dont listen to wat i say but...

big ups to all chicks startin out in mixing, i feel its a male dominated scene, and it is hard to crack into definately, but keep it up!!

rite enough with my essay...

it's just as hard for a new male dj to break into the scene as it is a female dj. ask a few that aren't getting a spot just how hard it is.

it's definitely male dominated, but from my experience, that's just because there are more guys that want to be involved and mix in the first place. there just seems to be more interest,

most girls that i have seen that have wanted an opportunity and have put some time into the scene are rewarded with opportunities and sets.


agree on this too.

hence why i said "and getting a set as a chick dj is hard, and i assume that it is just as hard being a male dj.."


there are alot of djs out there, im just saying it doesnt come down to gender whether u get a set or not, it comes down to skills, who you know and persevation... it also helps if the promoters like u

it also helps if promoters have your mobile number, as others have found, at short notice, in the past

do you mean perseverance?

you're right though.

From what I've seen, the biggest thing is you have to know how to satisfy the crowd your playing to, if they aren't enjoying it, they'll leave the dance floor real quick!

Also just because you mix everyday & your friends say your an awesome DJ, doesn't mean you are. It takes time, practice, patience & dedication to be a good DJ imo, hence why I couldn't do it, I don't have any patience!

And sucking up & trying to get in to bed with every other male DJ/promoter doesn't help either! I've seen that before!

This is purely IMO and not aimed at anyone!

 Gotta laugh at people saying it's hard.

 Yeah no fuckin shit it's hard. It was the same for everyone. I am sure if you ask Josh, Daniel, Jules, Simmo etc they will tell you the same thing. I think a lot of people expect it to be given to them.

 It takes years to get established! Hundreds of hours of practice, thousands spent on decks and vinyl, dozens of nights out getting to know people. I feel I have sacrificed a lot of things (deposit on a house for one) to have even gotten to the amount of sets I have, and I haven't played that many big parties really. I have had a ball with the chances I have had, and I can honestly say that my 'breaks' have been a combination of knowing the right people, being in the right place and my dedication and practice.

 There is no subsitute for practice. I see way too many new 'DJ's that can barely mix or work the levels/EQ's properly. I know thats not everything about DJing but it's about showing some pride in your craft imo.

 As far as female DJ's, I do think they probably get judged a bit harsher in some ways, but I also think it's easier for them to get that first gig. Either way they have to back it up.

 I also agree with Ben in that the females don't contribute in the same ways. Guys will tend to put on their own show if they are desperate enough to play ouy, whereas for whatever reasons the girls don't seem to get involved in that side of things.

 Get your name out there by making up mix CD's. Probably the easiest way to do it. Hardly anyone posts their own mixes on here nowadays.

 You can hardly expect to get sets mixing to your mates in your bedroom. You have to want it.

 

haha   and im meant to be going back to uni next week!!

all very valid points in this thread. im positive that pretty much its the same in every scene. i think there should be more female djs entering the dnb scene, it is very intimidating though.  the scene is very cliquey.  i agree that it is about perseverence and practice, but even posting on AM is intimidating sometimes, its so easy to get blasted for expressing ur opinion, so i can see why alot of people would be iffy about entering the scene.

i totally agree that there should be more females promoting events, however there is alot of dnb on at the moment, its hard to even find space to put an event on. i have a lot of respect for the crews that put shows on because i know how hard it is, how much effort and money goes into it... its definately a way to get out there though.

Yes


No


Both

Chick DJing at tits best... 


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here we go

Chick DJ

Antoher Chick DJ

Yet Another Chick DJ

And another

girl dj

More

oh yeah

awesome dj

Nikki Belucci

nikki beluci

i dont care what she plays

 

Maybe if you female DnB DJ's went to this much effort, then you might see your name on a few bills. You know? God knows I've had to go topless many a time in my effort to hunt down gigs. (Helpful tip... It gets so much easier when you do a few lines of coke beforehand)

imo i reckon girls are pretty equal to guys mainly its if you can mix or not use bel as a example cause i can she has been working her arse off to get somewhere for sometime now and i can see the beneifits she is getting now sets frequently in clubs and radio etc and now she is one of adelaides respected dnb djs and i know she didnt get that by sitting on her arse and not pushing what she believes in

theres other chicks that have done that also but not gonna go on and on bel was a example

Speaking of chicks that mix, at the pier one night there was a chick DJ on the line up, including a massive poster of this really really hot chick mixing. Problem is the chick on that poster wasn't even her, it was some random supermodel. She wasn't too happy about that I don't reckon. Apparently she wasn't too bad behind the decks. But she was doing a House set so it doesn't really matter too much how good you are.

if it was lou lou. she's not a dj. she's a mime.

 
Na I think it was Aubrey or something like that. I didn't get to hear it myself so I can't comment on how good she was.

That is soooo true

The bigger name local DJs have spent a fkn shitloads on vinyl. DJ Brendan has a fkn megaload. I dont know where they store it all. (I guess they have to have a sale everynow and again)

My partner Reuben has a pretty substantial vinyl collection of all styles and i would have to say he owns some of the rarest tracks too ranging from late 80's 90's to today and he only really had a short stint playing out bout 5 years ago.

Im always going off on him for blowing the budget. And he spends a miniscule amount of what he used to spend. I remember he used to spend a minimum of $150-$200 a week on vinyl. Work that shit out. (He pretty much now only buys old skool, but all in all these days those records are pretty dear unless he picks up a bargain)

But he had been collecting for over a decade before he was playing at the bigger parties. Hes over it all now but he still collects and IMO I respect the fact that he stil contributes to the music scene in his own way by supporting the artists in actually buying the vinyl. 

However today, he does it for the love and the enjoyment of listening to the tracks more than actually going out and being a DJ. Hes a fkn good mixer but I dont think he really cares about playing out for anyone, he just plays for himself.

Anyways my point being, Strykie is right (can I call you strykie ?? ahaha), just because you mix people shouldn't expect gigs. They have to work for it. Just because people own a few records doesnt make em a supastar who should expect things.

NAW MY GOD! I know it was just an example but as if you just said that!

Thanks so much for you kind words.

I have worked very hard. Although I still never actually have enough time to mix or produce anywhere near as much as I want to due to working a full time and also now part time job on top of the sets that I do and volunteer work.

I dont actually class myself as a good DJ yet. When I am up to Patchys level then maybe I will All I have is love and enjoyment for the music I cant get enough of.

I think its upsetting that some girl djs have to get their tits out to get noticed.

But hey sex sells....

but then what? The female DJ is observed (and probably not listened to) because they get their tits out. Something any female can do to get attention (dont get me wrong the titties are fine ) but I just think its sucks for the female DJs who do have talent because they dont get the credit they deserve cause some other chicky got her bits out.

But then in saying that they may have awesome talent and then go even higher cause they did get their tits out....

I personally just think DJing should be about the music and the love - not the tits an the whether you are female or male as much as I like boobies but then hey if she can mix and she has nice tits then hey you get 2 good sets in one :boobs: - cant complain about that really lol

LOL Millie Vannili hasent got shit on her 

ouch!
cant say ive ever seen her mix, but then again, thats not the first time ive heard similar insinuations thrown her way. isnt she one of dusks good 'dj' mates?

what exactly is it that she does/doesnt do anyway? and was minx another one along the same lines?? or am i getting my wores crossed?


like bel, miss Em seems to be doing ok for herself. sounds like she's pretty passionate about her tunage too. she's even been thinking of having a crack at dubstep she likes it so much... funny, cos it aint the least bit like the hard dance she plays.

think your referring to the time Lou Lou was doing a set and everyone, you know ASSUMED, that she was mixing, but she suddenly got bored or whatever and bailed from the decks for about half an hour...leaving the music playing...

hence everyone slagging her for using mix cds

I havent seen her mix and can only go from what I have heard... what I have heard (I apprently heard it from the person who saw it happen) - was she was playing a mix CD and making it look like she was mixing.... (saying this though I have heard of a guy doing this in the dnb scene too from someone who apprently saw it as well )

I saw Miss Em at High Contrast so yeah just cause someon plays a certain style dont mean thats the only music they like! I have been thrown into this basket many a times when at another event of another genre

Edit: after mindthiefs post: You could be right - I am only going by another well known dj who said they saw her  actually using a mix CD

shit i dunno you're probably right actually, chances are what i heard was just a stupid rumour (plus my memory is shite anyway ), your theory sounds a lot more realistic and also kinda has some evidence behind it...

I think it's unfair that female dj's get judged so harshly on the way that they look and male dj's aren't judged like that... once when storm played it was pathetic how much some guys were bagging her looks. Those types of comments must deter lots of girls from giving it a go 

It is unfair!

But we are women - arent we expected to be able to mix, cook the dinner, look after the kids, wash the dishes and clothes, clean the house, give a gobby and still look good doing it

And make sure you've got your boobs out.

well that goes without saying!

P.S. TROUb9Ls tits out this friday at everybody for everybody 

good gobby or GTFO

it is a bit rough on chicks re their looks, but its just the way it is for everything unfort.
thankfully not for guys otherwise fat dudes, bald blokes, gingers and asians would never get a set. and lets be honest, that wouldnt leave much left of the current d&b scene.

well no good women gives gobby without it being good. 

I just printed that post and will bring it in on Friday. 

pff whats "gobby" mean? does it mean what I think it means?

I am pretty sure it does and if not are you sure you're a woman? 

huh i dont get it

do you mean a blowie?

 

Hope this helps!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gobby

boring

chix giving gobby whilst they mix show th most talent

being a guy would if i wanted to play out would i be more likely to get sets or get locked up for calling for a reewind whilst wearing the cock watch?

food for thought

huh? wats a cock watch? 

pls explain

where you wrap your cock around your wrist and ask someone to tell you the time on it

if this thread doesnt rise above the cock and tit jokes soon it might get closed. its all in good fun, but it gets old real quick an dputs people off making constructive comments.

And here's me thinking this was a thread about some dodgy porno a mate of mine used to own.

*exits thread*

Ouch...
I run 3 events in the UK and have done for 5 years....
I also run ASR.. which is hard work in itself, 30 odd djs and mcs - and when the streaming bill isnt covered or we lose money - its my 60 hour weeks at work that pay for it all...

Also, I had been mixing a couple of months and entered a Dj competition in Cheltenham, UK. They told me I had got through to the final, because I was the only girl.... and I flat out refused, and walked out.
We have had other instances of sexism / racism happen where I just wont tolerate it.

Like the DnB awards this year, I was nominated for "Best female Dj"
Great, yeh its nice to be up there with the best girls in the world after the short time ive been dj-ing... But the fact I wouldnt stand a chance up with the big boys so get put in a "girl" category almost makes females seem lesser... imo..

So I asked to be taken out of it.. and I was refused, called a "hater" by the promoter lol, we are cool with each other theres no real beef there I think he was a bit pissed off I was coming accross as ungrateful and all...

But.. I wanted to be in the best "breakthrough" category. It wasnt about being male or female, that category was who is the best dj.

I think what im trying to say is, I dont like the whole female thing, I get put on flyers with "Girl power" on and people say its like the spice girls, and I cringe. I want to be known for being a good dj, not a good female Dj.

Its hard though because we are a rarer species, but in the last 2 years females have been encouraged more and there are more female djs and producers coming out of the woodwork, but either way that doesnt matter, because like I said, sex really shouldnt be an issue.

One thing that made me laugh and I later had an apology was, I was standing out in the pissing rain flyering - about 4 years ago now, and he goes, "Damn rep, you're looking like a right scruffer, fix up, your supposed to be a female Dj"

I had the flu, I felt like shit, it was 3am and pissing with rain. I thought to myself, if that was some up and coming male dj, they wouldnt of had that abuse.

I played on the valve once, with no make up on, and I regulary now do sets and make no effort what so ever with my appearance. Im 11 stone at the moment, and yeh I dont look great, but good. It shouldnt fuckin matter and it really grates me when men expect to see some model like female, it should be about all that... its about the music.

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i think what was said was a big generalisation and it sounds like you are an exception - you definitely are contributing a lot more than any other females i know of - big up!



how was it playing on valve?

 I was talking about Adelaide specifically.

 There are always exceptions to anything.

Thanks. I dont think I make any more of a contribution than the lads though! 
Valve is good, i've played on it 7 times now.. in 2 different venues, and its really easy to mix on.
At the front when you are in the crowd, its deafening, but behind the wall of speakers you can have a conversation easily which you cant do in front (due to the speakers all facing that way)

Its just the warm bass I love, the loudness of the kicks, punching, but you hear the monitors like you do on any other system more than anything, so its good to rememeber there is so much bass there and not to wack it up too much as the monitors are toppy.

Its definately the best sound system ive had the opportunity to play on. Big up the Bedlam & Valve boys each and every!



Ahh yeh, sorry didnt realise you were talkin about Adelaide.
I also think to a certain extent the promoters are to blame too, as they are the real people with the power.. 

chase, who's in the UK is a choice dj, mixing, selection, one of the best and most sublime styles ive seen, not pretentious, just getting in there and  doing the music thing proper,
 as is luize, but haven't heard much from her, she's probably doing her own thing in QLD now, anyone know what she and the junglettes are up to ? she was on myspace for a while, then got the shits and disappeared ?? , well, digitally anyway

Bel 9 is a very talented musical dj, as is dusk, there's a few more that i've heard deliver quite a good set or two, both here, japan and other parts of the world,

chicks that mix, men that blen, it doesn't matter that much... you've all covered the important things>>
 music, crowd reading, sound delivery and suitability, all posing aside, that's what counts

ATM's "They say I'm Crazy" mix is pretty sweet if you are into the liquid/more chilled stuff (and I am).

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I got a mix of that - not sure which one it is but I play it pretty often...

I have been thinking a bit about this thread... I didnt really feel I should input because I dont feel I am experienced enough here too... (hence alot of my jokes in the thread as I was waiting for some other input) I am still learning so much and feel so stupid with regards to tech talk, tunes, etc... I still dont know what half you peeps are on about when you talk about stuff  

I guess I just try and play and hope people like it...

But in saying that - I have thought many a times on starting "another night" with a few peeps or even just a girls night (I know I have said it to a few of the girls who play) Its just every time I do consider it I always come back to the same thing - what date do I put it on?  I would hate to put it on when another night is on as it seems nearly every weekend we have something on here whether it be local or international and I wouldnt want to split things up here even more nor piss off someone who may give me a future gig.

The other thing for me is time is so limited with working full time, volunteering at fresh, dancing, playing out, learning production, working part time at Inbound, etc, etc...

What ATM has said is right though. I want to be known for being a good dj not being a good female dj...

and in saying that I guess for me the problem has been being offered gigs when I felt I wasnt ready but not wanting to turn down a good opportunity when I may not get that opportunity again... I have sat there before many a gigs hating myself going I dont deserve this surely someone else should be playing because I havent played very long, etc. etc... I think its also probably because of the natzis here that I am so hard on myself... But after the gig I feel so happy to have just gotten the guts up to get up there.

There is good and bad to every situation - I know I should look at the good cause I know I am really really lucky but I guess we are always our own worst critics... I was playing out in clubs before I had my decks and I had only been buying vinyl for about 8 months... I jumped in the deep end for fear of missing out all together on my spot in the scene when it seemed so many females were coming out at that time or already had their spot... Dusk, Rolex, Rebel, Cryptic, Stylus etc... I still feel so unexperienced to these girls when I know they started a good 5 or more years before me and have supported internationals (not sure how long Stylus has been mixing in saying that) and some of them have had their own radios shows and such.

3 years after buying my first piece of vinyl I now have a few residencies and a radio show that I play and help out on and I have also supported a few internationals now... I wouldnt of got here without the people I know who have given me gigs and supported me and believed in me and there have been lots of you but also if I didnt jump in the deep end and just keep saying yes when I really wanted to say no.

Still to this day I wish I had waited longer before I had played out as I still dont feel my mixing is up to where I would want it to be and it seemed as soon as I got my decks the time I had to spend on them was lacking more and more... But also had I not said yes back then I wouldnt be where I am now with my confidence growing with every set and now getting these lovely comments from people on here... which helps with the confidence thing

I know I have so much left to learn because I havent even begun yet with what their is to know but I hope once my confidence is finally where it should be instead of being of the pretend kind that I will be one day known as a good dj - not a dj with tits

P.S. Cryptic is in SA I believe now - although I am unsure if she is djing anymore from what I last heard (I could be wrong)

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Thats hot

I still don't think my mixing is up to where I want it... you are on a never ending learning curve, and once you mastered 2 decks, you move onto 3 like i'm doing now. I dont ever put "2 deck mix" on my mix t/ls because im technically using 2 turntables and 1 cdj and I think really it should be 3 turntables if you're going to promote your turntable skills as a turntablist.

Nice post though... it's nice to read about women and what you're up to around the world. 

NEO: yeah the top chick is hot as! She at least plays dnb and doesnt sell her body to do so...

ATM: Yeah I know that is the case - it is very similar on how I think of my dancing too lol as I said we are always our own worst critic

1- if equal in skill, i'd rather watch a chic mix then a guy.
2- with their general appeal, and good communication/networking skills, I'd wager a girl has a slightly, (slightly) better chance of getting feet in the door.
3- however, I still find DJing is a 'boys club' kinda circle. Sad but IMO, true.

It was all good until women starting getting their tits out for sets. Mixing topless, how is any serious female DJ gonna be taken seriously after others start doing that I wonder.
If people want to judge me on appearance thats up to them. Its people who scratch underneath the surface that know me properly as an artist.

bwahahahahahahhah

OH MY GOD.

how many d&b djs mix topless though??

personally the only topless DJs ive heard of were that uggo fetish DJ and nikki beluchi who lets face it is ex-porn.

where do you go out??

I like it when Chris DJs with his tits out.

Therefore I think it's perfectly acceptable to appreciate women who DJ with their tits out too.

don't blame ya. is it the hair?

And well lets face it, I did hunt down and watch one of the pr0n movies she was in. Win win.

lol, you had more luck than i did then!

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Not offended in the slightest 
We all thought it was funny too.