Mobile Phones

Why so long?

10 seconds is usually plenty.

dont think 10 secs is even an option

Try the sleep button on the side, you can still receive calls/sms etc but it will be in a lower power consumption mode. From what I can understand anyway.. I'm still waiting for mine to be shipped

Options are 1/2/3/4/5 minutes.  this is auto-lock, but it does indeed sleep the display when it locks.  definitely hitting the button on the top to sleep it straight away when you're finished using rather than just shoving it in your pocket will help, if you do this there's no real reason to have a shorter auto lock (i have mine on 5 minutes so it doesn't lock while i'm using it)


i have push off and will never make it through a second day, but I use it as an ipod pretty heavily

this claim of five days is incredible, what's your secret? it's not just push...

turning off location services makes a fair cop of difference, so does turning off wifi.  i tend to go for the latter as my first port of call as 3G is fast enough and i have plenty of data in my plan, gets annoying when it's trying to still use the wifi as you move out of range, sometimes saves you time to use the slower connection as it's 'always' there

if i'm getting low and know it'll be a while before charge i'll turn off 3G as well.  DON'T DO THIS IF YOU ARE WITH 3 however because they'll charge you through the teeth for any data via GPRS

Khem can u whip up an AM App?

Cheers

here is one i prepared earlier

http://www.adelaidemassive.com/index.php?wap2

Just cancelled my iPhone and ordered a HTC Magic(Google Android) instead!

Smaller, lighter, and its not apple.. bwahahaha

Good on ya for not joining the flock like every other sheep. I've been eyeing off the Hero myself.

Steady on...  I wanted an iPhone before they even existed

I think you were born with a silver apple in your mouth by the sounds of it!

Haha... My dad who was the source of my connection with Apple at such a young age is the povvest cunt I know.  Our 'new' computers were always 3-4 years old.

iphones are sick, fuck the haters.

Lol it was more me doing a play on that old phrase, meaning you were into Apple stuff from a young age (you mentioned this earlier) as opposed to the meaning of the original 'silver spoon' phrase ie. rich and privileged.

Anyway carry on. Just clearing up what I meant lol.

Ended up getting this today. I rang around a whole heap of places but everywhere had sold out - finally found a shop that had one left, so I grabbed it. Didn't really want to sign up online or anything as I wanted it NOW! 

Love it already. 

I've got that but $500 credit for $10 more a month.

I've used the tethering a few times, it is very useful when you need it. Works well via Bluetooth from my Macbook Pro as well.

This.

All the things I didn't like about mine when I first got it have been fixed by the updates and most the things I loved have been made even better by apps.

Is there anything this phone can't do?

I'm not an iphone hater, however whilst waiting for it to come into stock I had some time to look around and found a phone which has all the same features and more, is lighter, looks better imo and is not locked down to what the manufacturer wants me to do with it.

As it runs Google's Android operating system it is open source meaning that all kinds of customisations are available from the community including almost totally re-written operating systems which unlock features and increase performance.

 

I'm not really a hater per se, I agree with what John has written. I pretty much hate being locked into anything by the manufacturer.

I've recently been getting into my first Apple product (iPod Classic 120GB) and I'm absolutely loving it as a music player, the included games are good fun for the commute, but therein lies the kicker; there's some other great games out there, such as Monopoly which would be awesome for it but of course you need to do the whole App store thing and buy it etc.
I'd rather just download things at my own pace and not have to bother with all the crap. It is kinda annoying how restrictive they can be.

Just a side note - The Android has a Marketplace\appstore aswell so not everything is free but a lot of it can still be obtained via the appropriate channels

The other thing I don't get with the iphone users is that so many of them havent even looked at what else is on the market and just jumped on the bandwagon blindly. I was out on Thursday night and told some avid iphone lovers that I had chosen to get another device and they got all uppity about it like I was making some huge mistake!

Almost as bad as Jehovahs!

presumptuous

Lol, not really. That describes basically 90% of Apple's customers.

Iphone > You

What does that have to do with Apple customers being like Christians and blindly following the word of the almighty one (Steve Jobs)?

Besides, I'm pretty sure I could beat an iPhone in a fight.

There is an iPhone app for attacking cunts with weak ankles so I'm pretty sure the phone would win.

Well my ankle is actually now protected with a titanium plate, so it's probably stronger than most now.

 


smoked

Is there anything like SPB Mobile for Android yet???
I was more keen to get an Android phone when I got my Omnia but there just weren't any quality phones out with the OS so I took a chance with WinMo 6.1 and honestly haven't had any major issues so far.

Any other smartphone OS > IPhone

Android 1.5(Cupcake)

Cleasc - Not sure what SPB actually does sorry but if it is just a shell which allows widgets etc then Android 1.5 can do that no problems?

John-wasn't taking the piss when I asked if they've ironed out the bugs. Whne the first "Google phone" came out, there was all sorts of issues with android. All good now though?

Using the HTC Magic at the moment. Love it, especially the way it integrates with all the Google apps etc.

Already 'rooted' it and installed a custom os

No complaints here!

What OS?

You're such a nerd John L.

I haven't even jailbroken my iPhone.

Well I'm yet to have any problems but I don't know what the initial issues where so wouldn't know where to look to see if they still exist.

I've only had it 24hrs so I guess time will tell :)

Would anyone happen to know if a Nokia N81 on a $49 cap plan through Optus would be sim locked? I wanna flog it off since I've upgraded..

Ring Optus and ask, i got my iphone unlocked so I can use it away on Telstra. 

optus only lock prepaid handsets and the iphones

if you got the n81 on contract it will not be locked

nice one cheers mate

Ok, so I'm in the market for a new phone after losing my last one on a beach in Nice.

I liked the last one as it was slim and small (Nokia 6500 classic), but I got burned buying it off Ebay for £100 as it wasn't new as described. Want to buy outright and the same phone is £160 on the Nokia site. There is also a better version (6700) but it is £229.

I also have it in my head that I would like an iPhone (£340 8g version) but a couple of things I hope the Massive can answer for me. How slim and how heavy are they (I want to be able to fit it into my pocket comfortably), and do you actually use a lot of apps on it (I can't see myself sitting around that much and using them)?

Can anyone else suggest another cheap slim phone that isnt a slide or foldable one?

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_3g-2424.php

Dimensions    115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm
Weight    133 g

Relatively slim but also relatively heavy IMO.

I think most of the apps are just a novelty. Once you either a) get over them or b) realise how much time you've wasted on them, you'll probably end up with 2 or so pages of apps that you actually use at the most (that's including the ones Apple provides).

I've got quite a few I use often, some every day (like Nice Kicks, Sneaker Junkie etc)

I like the weight, though I've always liked heavier phones, as I freak if i cant feel it in my pocket

I use the NY Times, Time, Facebook, Twitter, ABC and Apple Remote apps at least once a day, if not more.

Most of the others get used fairly infrequently, but handy to have them if I need to check something quick (unit conversion, for example)

Thanks guys ;)

(http://news30.net/resources/lacellphone.jpg)

Fuck, I would definitely rock one of them if I had one! :lol:

optus have an outage with sending sms atm, receiving should be fine but sending isnt working nationwide...

ahhh im having trouble thanks khemo

i can send fine.

but my work colleague cant.

ok so who here works in mobile phone sales then?
im looking to get an iphone or something similar right now. pm me

my phone's broken and i can't tell when i get messages on my old one. doesn't tell me who's sent them either. yay. now i don't answer at all.  :facepalm:

Who are you with/want to go with?

i cant fault the Optus iphone cap plan i'm on.

have heard that a lot of providers are still out of stock though.

vodaphone has a 2 week on the white 16gb ones wait which isnt too bad.

optus are out of stock over the phone, not sure about online. best bet is to hit up some stores.

optus have white in stock now according to the website. anyway

check the website. the iphone cap plans are pretty good imo.
free sms, 700 gb of data $680 of calls $67 a month on the $59 cap including handset repayment.

if you sign up online you get $100 credit on your bill (eventually)

its meant to land on the acct by the 2nd or 3rd bill, if it doesnt call em up

;)

ah k yeah i've had 3 bills now and no sign of it so will get onto them thanks  :)

im still not convinced with the iphone, despite there being so many sheep jumping on the bandwagon.

I'm looking at getting a new phone but am leaning towards the Blackberry Bold 9000.

someone who has an iphone answer me these questions please?

-can it successfully Bluetooth yet?
-What about MMS?
-does it still have the same poor quality sound output that ipods have?
-does it have an FM radio yet?
-does it still suffer from lack of basic cut and paste functionality?
-does it STILL not have intelligent push email where when a new message gets received you get notified straight away, rather than every 15 mins at most.
-does it still suffer from not being able to automatically synchronize calendar events?
-can I copy and listen to mp3's on there WITHOUT having to convert my entire library to another stupid format and use a slow clunky media player like itunes?
-is the iphone still not modem capable?

can't be fucked answering all those


google IPhone 3Gs

or go to gsmarena.com

betterman if you are even asking all those questions the phone isn't for you. :)

- no, but seriously, who cares?
- yes
- no
- no, and again, who cares?
- no, has cut and paste now
- push email has been fixed
- dunno, i use google calendar and i can access that over wifi or 3g
- it plays my mp3s just fine
- you can tether your iphone if you're with vodafone or optus

iPhone FTW

looks like i'll get a blackberry bold then

seems most of the things i want still aren't there, 100% compatibility with outlook being the main reason, i don't care for silly apps.

just read a few comparisons of the two on the net as well. basically all of them say blackberry is suited to the corporate world, iphones to the general user.

Having used both devices for an extended period of time, I would agree that if you want superior email and calendar functions and an indestructible device and O/S, Blackberry is the way to go.

If you want to have fun with your device and have information and entertainment right at your fingertips, iPhone is the better choice. Just don't drop it.

On that note, anyone had any experiences with the repairing of a cracked screen? I doubt it will be covered under warranty :(

if you havent called your provider about it, call em up, add insurance, wait (id suggest 3 months), then call to have it repaired under insurance. you might need to pay an excess, but breakage like that wouldnt be covered under warranty afaik.

Don't you get warranty with the provider you bought it from?

Just say it got really hot while you were speaking to someone and it felt like it was expanding then it just turned off and the screen cracked when you dropped it because you thought it was going to explode.

Considering the reported hardware problems they've had they would probably believe you and just replace it...

warranty = manufacturer
insurance = provider

I dropped mine on the weekend too  :cry:

no cracked screen but a chunk out of the corner and the screen has also lifted up at the corner a bit.


i also cancelled my insurance last week *sigh*

Internet hug?

there's probably an iphone app for it

buy it and send her one

:rofl:

did you have a cover on it lauren?

I got a plastic case/sleeve thing for my iPhone soon after I got it. It has two layers that kind of merge around one another so it acts like suspension.

I've dropped mine a few times and not done any damage.

So get a case!

I don't have her number :(

ignore me

disturbing

Shit sorry, shouldn't have posted that.

Then Apple will send you a letter telling you to STFU about it or they'll sue.

i see

Internet hug?

is there a redskin vodka app?

Those were the days, Steve. Those were the days.

I must attempt to make this. The vodka that is, not the app.

also if you have accidental damage cover for your contents insurance, it may be covered...

its really easy, and tastes awesome

just google it

i cant believe no one on here that works selling phones hasnt got back to me yet? dont you want the sales lol.
im looking at getting 2 now.

who here still works with phones?

Hah, yeah I know how good it tastes, nothing so strong in alcohol has gone down so easy. It's probably better that I don't know how to make it if it's really easy. :lol:

i dont work in sales

:hehe:

ur all gay.. in a bad way :E

Do your homework first Patch,(yuh lazy fella :E) People will glady sell you anything, as long as they don't have to explain how to use it :E

Nothing easier than jamming a pack of redskins (sans wrappers of course) down the neck of a bottle of voddy, waiting a day or so with a little shaking/turning here and there to dissolve the lollies then voila!

Wow... that is fkn easy.

I smell DANGER!

works for pretty much anything. just a tip if you are doing skittle vodka, seperate the colors and filter all the gunk out of it before drinking. not sure if the red skin one leaves any floaties or not.

:hehe:

i'm feeling drunk just reading about redskin vodka.

*acer wine (maple syrup liqueur) 80-90 proof... it's a good one :)  (* waits for jokes about computer company :E )
 
http://www.fineliving.com/fine/travel/article/0,2498,FINE_22196_5110019,00.html (http://www.fineliving.com/fine/travel/article/0,2498,FINE_22196_5110019,00.html)
"....Then it's carefully distilled and aged in American oak barrels for two to four years, which increases that alcohol content. The result is a smooth eau de vie that's akin to a good cognac. It packs punch in terms of strength but goes down like warm, liquid velvet...."
:nod:

iphone number 1 ordered. wife better be happy!

who did you end up going with mate?

optus - the $79 plan over 24 months. (plus $10 a month for the phone)
she buys at least that much credit a month and doesnt get as much value on the vodafone prepaids as she will now get with optus.
if its any good i reckon ill get one too

i predict you will get one :)

Optus doesn't show you how much of your plan allowance you have used throughout the month though. That's why I chose Vodafone.

you can check your usage via the optus web page and via the optus iphone app

has a break down of calls/sms/data/etc

sold!

OK. Either they didn't have that when I wanted to sign up, or the people in their shop were too stupid to know about it.

x 2

so i just downloaded the new update for my i-phone and it crashed. wasn't too hard to fix, little bit of googling and i found this.

remove sim, reconnect to computer then put sim back in.

if yours crashes try this before taking it anywhere :yup:

Mine has crashed a couple of times.

I've found if you hold the main button & top button down at the same time for about a minute everything comes good.

Optus would have to have the worst customer service!

you clearly didnt get me on the other end of the phone

;)

Fkn optus want to charge me a $10 fee a month to enable tethering on my iPhone. Fk that! I've come across some scripts on the net that will let me enable it... just not sure if optus will charge me or not. Anyone done this?

"technically" if you find a script and enable it, to optus it would just look like "mobile data" and therefore may not charge you.. BUT.. if they can see you're using it to visit websites and downloading stuff they can start charging you without notifying you. All in all its a risk..

Im no lawyer but there may be some form of law this violates.. hmm but i guess what isnt illegal these days  :E

Shafted. It's amazing that the operators want to charge people to enable a feature that is potentially going to earn them far more than $10 a month.

but since there are tonnes of people out there willing to fork out for the $10 not too mention the Data charges..

so it comes down to is (free tethering + data charge x users) > ($10 p/m + data charge x users) ...

sounds shit on optus' part but hey.. thats a large telco for you  :E

According to whirlpool if I stay on version 3.0 of the software I can download a script and enable tethering with no problems. If I update the iPhone however, I'm back to square one.

i upgraded mine to 3.1 but i somehow fucked up the profile for tethering and im still able to tether but with 3.1 for free :)

dont ask me how i did it.. i have no clue :P

Voda don't charge AFAIK

Extremely happy with Vodafone service.

And no, they don't charge a brass razoo for tethering.

Vodafone's been fine for me as well. I have used their tethering feature a few times via both USB and Bluetooth and not had any issues.

alrighty.... so thats: Voda: 3 Optus -9001  :E

so i now know when the next iphone comes out.. voda is the go :P

I've always steered clear of vodafone as I didn't like the way they tacked their red vodafone crap all over the phone's OS. I'm guessing this isn't the case with the iphone?

I don't even know what you're referring to.

Does that answer your question? :)

Yes funnily enough  :lol:

Anyone know if 3 Stores in Adelaide have the iphone in stock?

They're impossible to get here in Melbourne.

Conversely, has anyone got them on a plan via the Apple store?

have you tried calling them to see if they have any stock in their sales dept or online?

Yup and nope.

Constantly told they get them when Apple gives them to 3, and they have no idea when and how many.

I can order one online, but will have to wait an indeterminate amount of time, and it won't be treated as an upgrade (although having said that, neither will be getting it through the Apple store)

Laurens brother has jailbroken his iPhone. Had a bit of a look/play around with it last night

iWant

i'm suprised you didnt do it last night


looks heaps cool



will most likely do it myself if you do it first :P

getting a new phone tomorrow. finally i'll know who i'm not answering. :lol:

I fell asleep pretty much before getting into the house

*awaits phone call from Quazza complaining that his iPhone is no longer working*

Or MSN I guess as he can't call without a phone.. hmmm perhaps this is a good thing :P

anyone got a nokia e71?

(http://stochasticgeometry.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/nokia-e71.jpg)

what the hell is tethering?

i got the wifes iphone today. im gonna fuk t right up tonight. jailbreak etc etc

tethering allows you to use your iphone as a modem on your pc

ok right so i can get rid of the 3 broadband adapter i have and just use the iphone instead?

thats an option yeah. basically allows your iphone to be used as a modem using the 3G/mobile network.

hahaha

keep 8-9 free:)

Those of you who are jail-breaking the phones: what for? More specifically, what are you doing with them after jail-breaking them that you couldn't do before?

put porn on it.

Don't need to jailbreak your phone to do that.

'

I does.

do you rate it?

thinking of getting one...

 :lol:


I ended up deciding against the iPhone and got a Samsung Tocco Lite instead
(http://www.mobilephonereviews.org/uploads/Image/samsung%20tocco%20lite%20mobile%20phone.jpg)

It's light as all hell and has everything I need - very happy with it.

one of the biggest points is getting the apps you'd normally pay for, for free

I'm so getting an iPhone.

It defends against bears!

http://www.cio.com/article/504637/_A_Bear_Ate_My_iPhone_

i jailbroke it with this thing called blackra1n.. it took about 1 minute and i didnt have to do anything tricky like previous jailbreaks.

www.blackra1n.com

dont let the nerd in the picture freak you out.

go here as well if you want more info
www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums

yer thats what laurens brother used. I grabbed it last night. Looks easy as. But was watching a you tube vid showing it, and i swear they said you'll need to do it when ever you turn ya phone off and on

i've turned it off and on loads and i havent noticed it gone. there's a little blackra1n icon there and the installer "icy" app still there

sweet-might do tonight

I have had a little bit of trouble with it freezing, but other then that I love it.

:) I still wish I had wated for the I phone

where do you get the apps from?

They're all over the usual torrent spots mate. Search 'iPhone'.

i probably wouldn't trust them...

Just read the comments and you should be right, stick to the most popular ones too (comments are a must though - just cos there's heaps of seeders doesn't mean it's safe).

I've grabbed S60 stuff for years and had no probs...

It's like getting anything off the net, if it sounds too good to be true it usually is. Just check everything out first with the info provided, solid info, positive comments and you'll be OK.

AND IF YOU LIKE THE PROGRAM BUY IT! :mrgreen:

did the jailbreak-took all of 20 seconds. Had problems at first, as i installed both Cydia and Icy which evidentally clash, but fixed that (so yer, if you do it via black rain, pick one of the 2-i went with Cydia as apparently its still the biggest of em all)

Spent pretty much all yesterday playing round with stuff, dloading themes, tweaks etc-very cool

will suss it tonight. i got that blackrain one.

the time on my phone keeps changing to daylight savings automatically :bash:

But it is daylight savings?

does blackra1n allow you to use any sim?

i dunno but apparently you can ring your provider and tell them you're travelling overseas and want to use the phone there with a local sim and they unlock it.
haven't tried it tho, only read it somewhere

 :lol:

:rofl:

sorry. yeah it keeps going forward an hour. my pc is doing it too. did my head in yesterday i had to go out to the car to check the time.

question. what happens to these jailbroken iphones when you do an update through itunes?

I believe Apple kill a child in Africa.

 :lol:

In non-iPhone news, new version of SPB Mobile is out... still trying to find a good 'copy' tho.

when u update to the new OS?

the jail break gets wiped i believe, so ya have to do it again

 :lol:


yeah that's what i meant, cheers.

I'll be all over that.

if anyone else has a nokia which doesnt have an option to disable the camera tone, check this out

http://thesymbianblog.com/2009/07/13/how-to-disable-camera-sound-on-your-nokia/

works fine on my e71

:yup:

 Handy for upskirts eh?

:teefthumbs:



nah, its just a generally annoying sound

:lol:

http://www.raisehopeforcongo.org/comeclean4congo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=406TLCNksM8

I love my jail-broken iPhone

*rubs "on" button suggestively*

Take Action: Urge Electronics Companies to Sign the Conflict Minerals Pledge

The conflict in eastern Congo - the deadliest since World War II - is fueled in significant part by a multi-million dollar trade in minerals. Armed groups generate an estimated $144 million each year by trading four main minerals: the ores that produce the metals tin, tantalum, tungsten, and gold.  These materials eventually wind up in electronic devices, such as cell phones, portable music players, and computers, including those sold here in the United States. Given the lack of a transparent minerals supply chain, American consumers continue to indirectly finance armed groups that regularly commit atrocities and mass rape.
(http://www2.americanprogress.org/images/RAISE%20Hope/conflict-minerals-company-logos_small.JPG)


Urge the biggest buyers of the 3T’s and gold – major electronics companies – to sign on to the Conflict Minerals Pledge and ensure consumers that their products are conflict free.

Sign the petition - it takes 2 minutes!!

http://www2.americanprogress.org/t/1659/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=6265

Will mobile phones cost more if these companies have to buy their minerals elsewhere?

If so, I'm not signing anything.

No, not at all!

Mother nature doesn't like liars.

If you read the material and watched the video links you would see that there are ways that this mining can become profitable for the people of Congo as opposed to the people being exploited by it.

There are always alternative ways of doing things and it doesnt have to cost us more. We are getting less for our money with mobile phones than we ever have anyway! I spoke to a guy at Optus yesterday who admitted to me that hardly any NEW mobile phones these days will last the two year period in which you are due to get your free upgrade. Most phones become faulty at some point before the two years is up. My phone cost $650 upfront to purchase and lasted a year and a half before it became faulty, and i took excellent care of it. Old Nokia's and Sony Ericson's use to last years and years! Products are less reliable, cost more and are easily replaced because we make it ok with our attitudes of mass consumption - who's thinking of the global consequences?

People have been fighting in the Congo before they even knew what fighting was.

Like Afghanistan, there's only ONE solution.

(http://www.sarna.net/files/download/incoming/forum/132792-nuke.jpg)

There is War and suffering all over the world. Ignorance does not help solve problems - it creates more, and attitudes like your's help no cause!

You know I love you for your idealism, but signing a piece of paper is not going to end a war over resources.

The only way that will happen is if people stop competing over them.

And the only way that will happen is if resources become more plentiful, or humans become more scarce.

If only they could make mobile phones from whale by products.

 :lol:

also, spamming loads of people and asking them to sms 228466 isnt going to get you very far. australian mobiles will not sms that american sms code.

You, clearly  :E

Interesting article from an iPhone game developer about illegal downloads and how they relate to sales

(hint: they don't)

http://smellslikedonkey.com/wordpress/?page_id=274

Aussie creates RickRoll virus on iPhone

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/09/2737673.htm

Triple post  :E

Should be getting my iphone delivered next week.

:boh:

Dropped my Blackberry on the ground pissed at the races. Now I have a Crackberry.

 :lol:

ok so whenever i dload big files on my iphone, i always for it through my router-well somethings gone fucking wrong cos my bill has it ALL going through mu fucking phone. Anyone got any idea how to tackle it with Optus Customer service?


*looks at khem*

:lol:

Didn't you used to be Optus customer service?

:lol:

check your pms in a sec mate

lol no i was in business!

and all good. ended up getting $150 taken off it:)

google has just launched their own phone - nexus one

http://www.google.com/phone/?locale=en_US&s7e=

Manufactured by HTC... Hahaha

I wish I had waited, my HTC Magic is still shagged!

 I am up for a new phone in 14 days.

 I am not particularly sure what to get, but i keep hearing 'HTC 'come up.

 I want to use it for mp3 player, light web browsing, possibly watching TV shows on it.

 Will have to do some research I reckon.

HTC= no support for flash last i heard

includes the google phone- scroll back a page or 2

or you could just get an iphone

And blindly follow all of the other sheep out there...

Or you could research appropriately and choose the phone that is going to suit your needs/usage best...

The HTC's are great but the currently released models are nearing the end of their lifecycle and you'd be better off waiting 2-3 months for the new models to be released with 1Ghz processors and more memory etc.

The HTC Bravo is one in particular to keep an eye out for

ummm no. The Iphone does exactly what he said he's looking for, and does it well

As do a lot of other phones.

you're hatred of IPhones for no more a reason than "everyone's got one" is comical

But thats not why I "hate" them.

I think they're a great handset that does most things you want on a mobile device really well but I also believe if people are spending that much money on a device, (even if it's "free") then they should look at all options before just blindly going for what "everyone" allegedly has.

but your assuming people dont



ok fair assumption lol


I actually wanted a HTC before i got an IPhone-until i saw how many would come back to work needing to be fixed! Hang on, hasn't yours already been sent away for repairs?

It sure has, repaired and returned with a new mainboard within 72hrs. But that's typical of my luck with mobile phones, I'm pretty sure every single handset I've owned whether through work or purchased myself has had to be repaired at some stage. I know stacks of other people with the HTC Magic (not the Dream that Optus sold) that have not had any problems, it's just the luck of the draw.

I suspect the next generation of Android based phones will really start to give the iPhone a run for it's money as the OS is maturing now and they're starting to increase the processing power etc.

Pretty sure Steve Jobs could put the Apple logo on a pile of shit and people would buy it and rave about how great it is to their friends.

Well Apple has gone a long way to ensuring I don't buy an iPhone in the future - the apps that you supposedly can't get enough of when you have an iPhone will now have ads every 3 minutes.

as far as i know free apps have ads and always will, if you buy the full app it should be ad free.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/multitasking-release-gives-iad-developers-grip-on-iphone-ipad-users/story-e6frfro0-1225851788118

 :lol:

cunts!

there are 2 types of people really; iphone owners and people in denial.

 :facepalm:

:rofl:

i have one, i love it!

 :nod:

I'm gonna laugh when all of you finally get multitasking (only standard for any OS since Windows 3.1!) then get bombarded with ads constantly!

Apple's getting there! Maybe you'll have standard features other devices and OSs have in another 5 years and 100 firmware upgrades later. :E

(Though I don't think the ad stuff will be as bad it sounds, probably just a little unobtrusive scrolling thing or something which you'll block out after awhile.)

dell have stepped up to the place with a smart phone

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/04-21-10lightp.jpg)
Dell Lightning. 1 GHz Windows Phone 7 device with qwerty

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/dell-thunder-top-2.jpg)
Dell Thunder. 1 GHz Android phone.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/dell-smoke-sm.jpg)
Dell Smoke. Qwerty keyboard Android device

Don't know what the big fuss is with multitasking, its one of the first things I got up and running on my 3G when I jailbroke it. The only time I ever use it is if I'm downloading a program or youtube video or something and I want to send an sms/fk around with it.

So what's the go with the new Dell phones? Which OS is best?

man those buttons look small.

would need to obtain a special dialing wand

Please mash the keypad with the palm of your hand.

When I worked at Crazy John's about 5 years ago it was all about how small a phone could be. If it was larger than 10cm people didn't want it. The first 3G phones came out and people thought they were monstrous!

And now it seems the bigger the better!

There was a Nokia 8xxx something awhile back that was ridiculous. You would need a toothpick to press the keys practically.

I'm all for the whole miniaturisation thing but you need to draw the line somewhere!

what other companies are running off the telstra network?

our (Commander) 2G's phones do

but i wouldn't have thought any? Telstra don't wholesale their next G product

yeah, it looks like they only resell their gsm, not their next g

I'm pretty sure they do allow wholesale access it's just the charges are ridiculous so no one does it.

 So roaming data internationally costs $20 a megabyte  :facepalm:

 Ouch.

 Think i will be turning that off just quietly.

 :lol:

yeah roaming charges in general are ridiculous... but none of the providers here or internationally want to drop the rates, cos it makes them money.

on an iphone make sure you do these if you go over seas




push can still work even if data roaming is off, so make sure both of these settings are disabled. alternatively call your  provider and ask for gprs/wap/internet to be disabled. only problem is you will need to call them back to turn it back on once you return.

I most definitely will. I use about 500meg a month so that's a lazy $10k. That is seriously ridiculous!

 Huge shame cos it would be handy as hell to have it over there.

 Can still use WiFi I guess.

 Surely having roaming off overides push? Sneaky buggers. I bet so many people dont even think and start blazing away on the holiday :lol:

nah, seen a few people get stung by it... so make sure you get em both covered!

wifi is definitely the go, unless you want to get your iphone unlocked and grab a UK sim card. google virgin mobile uk, t mobile, O2 and check their sites for roaming info. pretty sure roaming in europe via a uk sim card isnt going to be as brutal as an aussie sim... didnt check data when we went away tho.

Yeah there was an article a few weeks ago about some dude from Adelaide checking footy scores during his month or so holiday, racking up a few thousand or something like that. :lol:

Edit: here it is http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/phone-bill-for-crows-losing-score/story-e6frea83-1225861767042 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/phone-bill-for-crows-losing-score/story-e6frea83-1225861767042)

(cue the Crows jokes...)

I remembering laughing super hard when I saw that, even the title just says it all - dude was charged $4,373 for finding out his team fucking lost.

But what's the best part? His last name is Putz. Seriously.

:rofl:

Randall Putz lol. It sounds like a movie character.

Hahaha yeah! The more I think about it, the funnier it gets :lol:

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/03/1225861/775316-phone.jpg)

Derp

Lol I forgot about the forced fake surprise photo they did.

iphone 4 should be out in july, details in the link below

http://www.news.com.au/technology/mm-thick-iphone-4-the-biggest-leap-since-original-apples-steve-jobs/story-e6frfro0-1225876731186

Hopefully pickin up a Samsung Galaxy S tomorrow :)

(http://apcmag.com/images/Samsung-GalaxyS-620.jpg)

Im up for a new phone and thinking of the HTC desire. Im so not going down the Iphone path like all the sheep out there.

Anyone got a HTC desire? I heard that they are a pretty good phone and are in someways better than the Iphone.

if you want to test run android

http://lifehacker.com/5587260/how-to-test-drive-android-on-your-pc-without-buying-a-phone
http://lifehacker.com/5588884/enable-the-android-market-when-trying-out-android-on-your-pc

You'll find the desire runs HTC's heavily modified Sense UI version of the operating system so whilst that will give some idea of the Vanilla Android OS it will be quite different to what comes on the Desire.

If you are looking at using the Desire on any other carrier than Telstra then make sure you get the correct device for your network, the one via Telstra is designed for use on NextG and will therefore not give us good performance with other carriers due to the radio frequency it uses.

My Dad bought one last week and loves it. I've mucked around on it and it's pretty awesome, and I reckon it's almost exactly the same, if not better than the iPhone. You can download apps to make it similar to the iPhone if that's what you want anyway...I'd recommend it man, and I applaud your decision to be different than all the otha suckas :D :thumbsup:

so i'm going to be away in the US and NZ for a month soon and dont know what to do regarding my phone.

any advice?

i have an iphone and would love to be able to use it for the odd email and facebook update and mms but im assuming that roaming with data would cost a shitload?

would it be possible to get a sim card over there with data? and would my iphone even work with a different card in it.

i really have no clue so any advice would be appreciated :)

Just don't let this happen.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/07/04/14610266.html

you will need to get your iphone unlocked as it would locked to your network. if you are with optus, call 1300 075 395 for an automated unlock process - you just need your imei number, mobile number and date of birth.

to get the imei: Settings > General > About > Scroll down, IMEI is displayed.

make sure you disable the following settings, otherwise the iphone will access data on the mobile network even if you dont press any buttons or take it out of your bag!

Data Roaming:

1. Select Settings
2. Select General
3. Select Network
4. Select Data Roaming
5. Switch ON/OFF

Cellular Data: (Once software updated to iOS 4.0)

1. Select Settings
2. Select General
3. Select Network
4. Select Cellular Data
5. Switch ON/OFF

Disabling Fetch Email:

1. Select Settings
2. Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars
3. Select Fetch New Data
4. Set Push to OFF

roaming data is charged at around $20 per megabyte so it adds up really quickly. definitely try and use a local prepaid sim if you can, unless you want to pay a few hundred bucks to keep up with your mates on facebook.



:)

Do what Khem said and do not use global roaming for anything other than emergencies. Calls cost around $4 a minute  and data is charged at around $20 a mb... costs an absolute shitload just to recieve calls.

Depending on where you are in the US you should be able to find free Wifi in enough places for the emails and facebook. Finding a SIM in the US proved harder than I thought, they want to put you on a plan. I picked up prepaid handset for around $10 from a supermarket for local calls and SMS.

you may also wanna double check your insurance. if you are getting travel insurance, make sure it covers an iphone. if you have insurance through your phone provider, make sure it covers you while overseas.

thanks.

i am with optus so i shall do that.

maybe i should just leave the iphone here and take an old handset and get a prepaid sim and then use net cafes when i can.

Where are you headed over there anyway?

So I got one this morning. Its a sick phone. Totally kicks the Iphonses ass IMO. This thing is so customisable, the net works sweet (even flash pages :-P) and everything is where is supposed to be. I so glad I went with this than the Iphone!

LA, San Fran, Vegas, New York, Miami :)

Off to Vietnam soon, I think I'll just take my shitty old phone that I don't mind losing and back up all my numbers somewhere else.

Oh man, jealous. I need to go back to the states.

Make sure you check out this outlet joint while in LA. Puts anything we have here to absolute shame.

http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=20 -

They have them all over the States, but I went to the Camarillo one. This is the place I picked up my pair of 2000 Jordan VI Infras for $80. It's a little bit out of LA, but definitely worth it.

http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/store_listing.asp?id=20 - Some serious brands in there!

I'll see to it she makes her way there

I thought you might. :lol:

New Balance factory outlet there as well ;)

If I'm reading that correctly, you use the old phone to backup your numbers?

Why not back them up to PC? All phones will do it nowadays, I know Sony and Nokia both use the universal VCF contact format (probably other brands too) that can be viewed/edited/is compatible with Windows.

You should also be able to do an in-phone backup to the miniSD card if it new enough. I have both PC and memory card backups so if one fails you're not completely lost (and you can always backup further to more external media if you like).

pretty sure you read it wrong glock

she will be taking her old phone and backing up her numbers somewhere else, ie, not on the old phone

Righto. Same rules apply for backing up that one then. ;)

That's the one!

I'll pop my numbers on the handset of the crap phone and back up to another phone (as I need to get a new one.)
I don't plan on using it, but just in case.

So I need to go with the old man to get him a new phone on saturday. He'll probably be getting a $49 cap with Optus or Telstra and I need some recommendations on a decent phone for him. He wants to be able to check email/share trading/use the net on it. He likes my iPhone but doesn't want to go on a waiting list. I noticed the HTC desire is free on a $49 telstra nextg cap and the Samsung galaxy S is free on Optus' $49 cap. Which phones do the massive prefer?

check the user reviews on this site: www.gsmarena.com

already on it, cheers mate

From what I have read I would recommend the Desire. It is more responsive, Samsung have loaded up on a widget system that resembles the iPhone and it's quite slow apparently. However the Galaxy has a bigger screen and nicer colours and brightness due to the OLED display. Samsung also has a Swype interface to help with typing.

So if you value the display (and Swype) over anything else go for the Samsung, otherwise go for the Desire, it's interface is faster.


Lol this is funny but it's kind of talking about the same points I did: http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/mobile-phone-blogs/htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-the-uber-powerful-showdown/ (http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/mobile-phone-blogs/htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-the-uber-powerful-showdown/)

I have a galaxy S and its awesome, never used a desire though so i can't exactly compare sorry.

No complaints about the galaxy S although for the first few charges your battery life will be 1 day, but after a good 3 or 4 charges it becomes longer at around 2 days (depending on usage)

Screen is awesome and everything is easily readable/photos look amazing. I have it on the lowest brightness and its brighter than my old iphone on almost full. Its amazing what an OLED screen can do.


Touchpro (samsungs UI) is crap, ditch it and get launcher pro from the marketplace :) sooo much quicker and looks better IMO

PM me if you want any more info on it :)

Cool, I'm leaning more towards the Galaxy S, I reckon the Swype feature and the better screen might be more useful for him. I'm guessing he'll probably go with the HTC on Telstra tho just because he's over 50 and its Telstra.

The Desire also has a 16m colour OLED display. If all Swype does is let you move your finger across the keyboard without lifting it off the screen, all while selecting different letters, then my HTC Legend does that, so I'd assume the Desire does as well.

Ha really. I thought the Samsung was the only one with OLED. Still it's a bigger screen which is one of the pluses I guess.

Swype sounds exactly like what you're talking about lol, so I'm not sure if it's a major bonus really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXpbDqto2FE

Ok that's different to what mine does. It still looks like a pretty useless feature though. How much time are you actually going to save?

saves heaps of time! i can type faster with one hand/finger than people on iphones with 2 fingers. takes a day to get used to but once you get quick at it damn its fast!

Well it could just be me, but the most I ever type on my phone is a message. I can envision this saving me all of 5 seconds. :lol:

 That is basically my dream US holiday. Very nice!

 I took my iphone to Europe and used data roaming 3 or 4 times to do banking when I really needed to. It was cheaper than going to a net cafe and more convenient.

 I did get a bit sms and call happy though. Hello $280 bill :cry:

Ahh see i type messages, emails, IM convos the lot for work on it, so thats where the saved time comes in handy :)

haha $280's a dream compared to some of the ones I deal at work

280 is a drop in the ocean compared to some of the shit i see

:lol:

 Oh yeah I am loving it :E

 

Yeah fair enough. What I want, is a phone with a full sized holographic keyboard that pops out when needed. :lol:

(http://www.idonato.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/laser-keyboard1.jpg)

:lol:

Awesome. Any info to go with the picture?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/07/bluetooth_virtual_laser_keyboard.html

Decided after successfully bricking my HTC Magic about 8 months ago and reverting back to my old SE W880i that I wanted something small, simple but that still had some newer features, I'm also not a fan of the on screen keyboard that all of these touch screen phones have so I went and picked up a Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro yesterday.

Its not the most powerful phone out there but for what I want it does the job, easy enough to read RSS/websites, google integration, navigation, slide out QWERTY keyboard that is really good for its size and uses Android.

Great little compact phone

anyone wanna swap and iphone 4.1 with me for a decent phone?
its jailbroken and unlocked and bout a week old

my old phone is giving me the shits, and i started wanting an 'iphone' or something that has a lot more functionality than my old thing has.

i found this thing  http://www.garminasus.com/en_AU/phones/nuvifone-a10/

considering i'm going to be travelling loads, i found the locational/software interconnectivity to be a real highlight - is the powerfulness of this function matched by other 3g (or whatever its called) phones??


really happy with my Garmin products, and Asus is going from strength to strength, so not really phased about the brand's notoriety

Having known a few people with Asus handsets (old work was the sole distributor in Aus for awhile), I would probably stay away from them.

They often crashed without reason and support was poor.

Also http://www.techweet.com/story/asus-and-garmin-to-break-up-in-january

feck, what a bummer!

lost my mobile over the weekend.... again...

i go thru new number all the time

you know you can just call your mobile provider and get your number assigned to a new sim

wasnt a new iphone was it?

you didnt happen to find a new iphone did you?

ordered the new HTC Desire HD from uk website clove.co.uk, should be here within a week, gets released in AUS exclusive to voda and three somestage next month.

with the strong aussie dollar atm im getting it for about $650, not bad for a top or the range new android phone

exactly what i was considering.... hmmmm.....

I've been thinking of getting the Desire HD but I fear it might just be too big for a phone... really want to see it first. $650AU is a seriously good price.

my mate found it on the train and he didn't know what to do with it so i am took it off his hands but im not a huge fan of them so im hoping there is someone out there who is in the market for one and they have something comparable in another brand.

if its been reported lost or stolen by the original owner its gonna be pretty useless to anyone you might palm it off to once the imei block kicks in

why not return it to a police station? if the original owner has done a police report then it will get sent back to its rightful owner. wouldnt you be stoked if you lost your brand new phone on a train and then some nice person handed it in and you got it back?

This.

 Yup

 Bit of a dick move to keep it tbh

 SMH at trying to swap it on here

I had it given to me by the person who found it in a car park wiped of all identifying features, ie Sim card, contacts, sms, photos or anything. im not walking into a police station with a phone that could very well have been reported stolen. i don't want it but i thought maybe someone might.

if any of you lot feel like doing the right thing and receiving potentially stolen property in the interests of giving it to the police saying u found it, thats admirable but personally id rather not.

last time i tried to do the right thing i found a set of number plates outside my mums house on the footpath, i took them to the police station and they had been used for lots of petrol drive offs and i got grilled by a couple of asshole detectives for more than long enough.

think what you like tbh i dont care, all your honest righteous folk who would hunt down the owner of a wallet or keys or phone that's fantastic but im not inclined to do the same. and if someone nicked my shit or if i lost it somewhere, i would be stoked to have it returned but to this date this has not happened nor do i expect it to. this is the world we live in.

imei blocks are easily circumvented if you want to go down that route. but regardless it still works for internet and as an ipod, like i said i thought someone might have a use for it but apparently not.

If you want to get banned again feel free to advertise it for sale in the technical and classifieds section of the forum.

PS. I'd hand it in at the cop shop. Hardly the same as a set of number plates... Unless it has been used by Terry Wrist or Al Kyder to set off a bomb or something...

i dont want any money for it, i think i made that quite clear. but thank your for your useful tips on how to get banned from adelaide massive 

i appreciate what your all saying and im going to give it back to my mate and let him do what he feels is right for him as i was only acting on his behalf.

this thread gives me the lulz


i guess it IS in the soap box section...

do you want the iphone Fluke? 

Woah!

that would be awesome!

Don't know if anyone is with Hell$tra but if so you can get more data now if you call up and ask nicely.

http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/11/22/social-networking-over-your-mobile-gets-even-cheaper/

anyone been having issues with voda? if you have recently signed up and been experiencing drop outs/congestion/bad coverage/slow data speeds, the ACCC has decided that voda are not keeping up their end of their contract and you can now leave them without any cancellation fees.

It's free to dump Vodafone
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/its-free-to-dump-vodafone/story-e6frea6u-1225971789470
From: The Advertiser
December 16, 2010 12:01AM
TENS of thousands of angry Vodafone customers are free to walk out on their contracts, according to the nation's top telco consumer advocate.
Many of Vodafone's seven million mobile customers have for two months been enduring problems, including call failures and slow data speeds.
Some want to switch to another provider but believe they are unable to because of contracts they have signed with the No. 3 ranked mobile provider.
"I believe the contract has been broken by Vodafone," Teresa Corbin, CEO of the Federal Government-funded Australian Communications Consumer Action Network, said.
Ms Corbin said Vodafone had sold services that had not worked well for a sustained period.
"There is no question that this has caused significant detriment to customers," Ms Corbin said.
Ms Corbin said that constituted a breach of contract.
Ms Corbin's position was supported by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.
The ACCC enforces the Trade Practices Act, a law which, among other things, imposes on sellers a "statutory condition" that goods and services must be "fit for their intended purpose".
When they aren't, it breaks the deal between the seller and the consumer.
"If the product isn't fit for purpose, you could argue that the contract hasn't been fulfilled and therefore could be null and void," an ACCC spokeswoman said.
"The representations that have been made are wrong.'
The ACCC spokeswoman said customers shouldn't just stop paying, but rather should lodge a complaint with the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman.
Vodafone's chief technical officer Michael Young, when asked if Vodafone had breached its contract with customers, said: "You're talking to the wrong individual."
Mr Young was the only person Vodafone would make available.
He said the problems were mainly confined to the CBD and the company expected to have fixed its network issues by the end of the week.

I haven't had any issues at all. From what I understands the problems are mainly in the Eastern states though...

I have two phones on two different Vodafone plans as well.

Probably because the coverage drops out completely once you've left the metropolitan area.

Wonder if I should use this to drop out of both of my contracts then sigh up for one cheap one...

http://www.news.com.au/business/vodafone-facing-class-action/story-e6frfm1i-1225976668127

Website seeks customer complaints
Includes drop-outs and reception issues
Follows apology for "network issues"

VODAFONE is facing a potential class action following complaints from thousands of Australian customers angry about the telco giant's network performance.

Sydney law firm Piper Alderman has set up a website to seek out Vodafone costumers who would like to form a class action lawsuit about calls dropping out, reception issues and poor data performance.

"This is not what Vodafone customers signed up for," the law firm writes on the site.

"Vodafone, however, has continued to charge customers on its mobile plans, without providing the service it promised."

Piper Alderman says the class action would seek to recover losses suffered by Vodafone customers over the past three years, plus interest.
 
It says customers may be entitled to compensation if they were "misled into signing contracts or if the telco did not live up to its end of the bargain".

"There will be nothing to pay unless you successfully recover compensation," it adds.

Thousands of angry customers have already shared their complaints on social networking sites and on a website called Vodafail.com.

The website's founder, former Vodafone customer Adam Brimo, has collected a torrent of complaints from disgruntled customers on the site.

Though Vodafone could not be reached for comment, its chief executive Nigel Dews issued an apology on the company's website to customers over its "recent intermittent network issues".

"Having customers who are happy with their service and their network experience is central to us, but unfortunately in recent weeks, some customers have had a disappointing and frustrating experience which I am very sorry for," Mr Dews said in the statement, dated December 21.

He said Vodafone had recently announced plans to significantly upgrade its network.

http://vodafail.com/

Relevant link:

http://www.piperalderman.com.au/vf/

voda continue to get smashed... last week they allegedly published a bunch of private customer info, now they are getting so many complaints they stopped taking any new complaints...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/customer-complaints-falling-on-deaf-ears-at-vodafone/story-e6freuy9-1225986554409

The company has been besieged by customers complaining about poor network performance and recent reports that users' personal information was available online.

From last Thursday, customers have been greeted with an "out of order" message at the company's online email response form.

The only way users could complain was by ringing Vodafone's customer care line, which was twice shut down because of technical difficulties.

If customers did manage to reach a call centre worker, they were told the email address had been removed and were not given a physical address if they asked for one.

It wasn't until after inquiries from The Daily Telegraph and the Australian Communication Consumer Action Network that the email address was reinstated on Vodafone's website on Tuesday night.

It is the latest in a string of public relations disasters for the company.

More than 12,500 people have signed up to a class action over calls dropping out, reception issues and poor data performance. The company has denied its customers' personal information was publicly available online, but confirmed it was investigating a security breach.

ACCAN policy and campaigns director Elissa Freeman said it was unacceptable for Vodafone to make it difficult for customers to raise complaints.

She said customers who had made a reasonable attempt to raise a complaint with Vodafone but were unable to make contact could also raise the matter with the Telecommunication Industry Ombudsman (TIO).

A TIO spokesman said that while the industry's complaint handling code did not set out required methods of communication, it did "specify that service providers offer free or low cost and flexible methods for taking complaints and make themselves accessible to consumers".

A Vodafone spokesman said the company had suspended its online contact form while it worked through a backlog of customer inquiries and increased staffing levels for online feedback and complaints resolution.

Heh, I'm signed up to the class action and have filed a complaint with TIO... Am waiting on a response from Vodafone now.

interesting... lemme know how you get on

Does any of this affect people on Three (as I heard Voda had bought them out)?

Just wondering if my details are out there somewhere!

voda and three have merged and are on the same network. pretty sure they still have seperate customer bases, as all the stores and ads are still seperate.

man working for Voda right now would be a nightmare

Wouldn't be that bad. Their phone system is out of order so the only people they need to respond to are the TIO staff who are just passing on complaints.

optus have got a 3g voice/data network issue in SA at the moment.

I got out of my Vodafail contract without penalty after bitching a bit... Will be looking for a new provider next month.

I think I'll go with Telstra just for the coverage.

Tell me how?

I'm considering pushing for the same, and will be moving to Telstra if I can get it to happen

Called TIO, made a complaint. They advise Vodafone, someone from Vodafone calls you within 2 weeks (took 4 days for me) and they have your bill in front of them. They scrutinise it over the phone and try and link up your complaint to the bill, for example in my case they saw a number of very short calls which indicated dropped calls I had. Basically it seemed like they were trying to make me prove that my complaint was valid. If there hadn't been any short calls on there, or calls made straight after other short calls (indicating that I was calling people back after dropped calls) they may have questioned my motive for moving further.

I also explained that I have two phones and plans with them and both have the same problems (so it's not a handset issue) which strengthened my argument.

Then I made a general complaint about the publicised data breaches that had occurred and exclaimed how I worked in IT and didn't want to stay with a company like them if they couldn't keep their customer data more secure.

In my case I didn't actually have that many calls immediately after short calls, and it seemed as if the staff there implied that this indicated they were genuinely short calls, but I basically explained (truthfully) that often after a dropped call I don't even bother calling back and just email people instead or SMS them saying I'll email them since I can't be bothered making multiple calls.

I also mentioned that they're work phones for me (one was on a business plan) and it is a pain for my business if I have dropped calls on a regular basis and patchy 3G data while moving around the city. The 3G data issue wasn't that significant but when it did occur it was just an inconvenience.

how so? I've been having some isues lately

loads of customers unable to access the internet and make calls. only been happening since this morning tho, no ETA as yet. i couldnt browse on the bus ride to work this morning... shattered...

what issues are you having?

Yep i have this, no data at all. Not even GPRS, something has gone haywire!

yeah, still borked, no eta

im here til 630 so ill post if/once it gets fixed

I have HSDPA back

i aint got shit and im sitting in the optus building which has a tower on the roof



hope its fixed before hometime or else its gonna be a boring ride home on the bus

Tip the antenna on its side and it might be OK. I think the signal goes out horizontally from the antennas.

what phones have antennas these days?

I meant the one on the roof dumbass.

My phone doesn't work when I'm at Elizabeth Shopping Centre... I have full coverage but can't send/receive messages or make or receive calls.  It's so annoying.. I also don't get reception now at my new job but I think that's just because it's a big old stone building.


Don't know whether it's worth changing providers because I do like Optus.. Although Telstra having better coverage would come in handy.

ring 1300 307 937 (or 133 713 for iphone) 24/7 to check for coverage in the area. heard reports of the iphone 4 outperforming the iphone 3 as it runs a slightly different frequency. test your sim in another phone if you can, it will help narrow down if it is a coverage/hset issue.

Oh thanks Khem

I need a new phone desperately and am on a $20 business telstra contract (casual so I can upgrade whenever I want.) I want an android phone but I also want a decent plan, as I spend about $50 a month. So a $19 or $29 cap would be perfect. But I also need the Telstra coverage so until they have a cheapy cap, I'm stuck. I don't want to port to yoda or virgin or Optus

maybe consider getting a htc wildfire on smellstra prepaid - $299 outright

http://www.telstra.com.au/shop/Consumer/NGTSOProductDetailsView?catalogId=10101&storeId=10001&productId=94819&langId=-1&categoryId=16105&parent_category_rn=16105&top_category=

i know there is a lil mobile booth out at west lakes near dick smith who sells handsets outright too. mate picked up a htc legend for about 400 i think.

Getting a "decent" phone is subjective, everyone has different thoughts on what makes a phone "decent" so you should start by working out the essential features you must have and then add on the desirable features you'd like but could live with out.

Also, if coverage is essential and you want to stay with Telstra then don't even look at the option of buying a phone through another provider. You probably know this because you used to work at Crazy Johns however Telstra's 3G is different to everyone else (Telstra/Everyone = 2100Mhz for 3G and Telstra Only 850Mhz NextG). You'll still get coverage on 2100Mhz but it won't be as fast or have the same level of coverage that you'd get with 850Mhz.

I.e HTC Desire is available on both Telstra and Vodafone but they are different models for each provider.

www.gsmarena.com is an awesome source of specs and user reviews, so make sure you take a look before making your decision.

I'll have full 3G, yet anything Im doing on line, will just continually load and load and load. Only thing that fixes it is getting out of safari (or the app), completely shutting it down, then re opening it and trying again

where are you atm?

from a list of about 50-60 sites that were down yesterday, it looks like only golden grove, west lakes and largs bay are still down. rundle mall and athelstone was only fixed about an hour ago. other sites dont have a time next to them but the thing here says all the other sites were good to go from 1130.

it may not automatically reconnect to the network so try powercycling it and giving it another shot, my net was working fine earlier.

Golden Grove was back up yesterday, thats where i'm connected and haven't had any problems since then...

nah its been happening for weeks

shouldnt be happening

call iphone tech support on 133 713 - open 24/7

try and call during business hours if you have a day off, more chance* of landing on shore

(*not a guarantee)

Has anyone on Optus been having crap speeds over 3G/HSDPA since the outage last week?

It seems that its dropped down by about half. Not just at home but everywhere else aswell including the city...

1300 307 937 for mobile tech support, they should be able to help if you are having issues.



have just seen the white iphone 4 listing appear in our stock database, no idea on release date tho. will be interesting to see how many chumps grab themselves a white iphone in a mad rush to have the latest apple product, locking themself into a 24 month contract with the iphone 5 heavily rumoured for july.

galaxy s 2 is out in the uk end of march. no release dates here yet.

Who doesn't plug their smart phone in every 2 nights at the least these days anyway?

Everyday here.

It won't even last 10 hours from full charge if I'm actively using WiFi, playing games, browsing, etc.

That said my phone is notorious for having one of the worst battery lives around.

I reckon with the uptake of all these phones the telcos should start spending some money to put USB charging stations around everywhere so you can top up as you go.

lol my current Iphone, i charge 3-4 times a day. She's fucked

the new Galaxy is charging for the first time as we speak/type

Sick, let me know what you think of it Quaz, so is the Galaxy SII the new bees knees of smartphones? What are the other dual core beasts competing with it?

The battery life thing is pretty annoying. I like to play with my phone on planes, watch movies etc. and it is always going flat. On the way over here though they had usb ports on the seat back which is awesome, too bad I didn't have my charging cable.

Agreed, they should have chargers EVERYWHERE. Fucking hell there would be some money to be made if you could make some kind of charging solution for cafe's and buses and things. If you could think of a way for people to have a coffee and charge their phone at their table pretty soon every cafe would have to have get on board... Think of the money you could make if you invented that!

I'd happily have a bit bigger phone if it lasted longer too I think.

Sick, let me know what you think of it Quaz, so is the Galaxy SII the new bees knees of smartphones? What are the other dual core beasts competing with it?

Off the top of my head, the HTC Sensation, Motorola Atrix and LG Optimus 2X are all highly regarded dual-core phones. There may be some others out there but they are likely Huawei and other "no-name" brands.

Of those the Sensation and Atrix are probably the better choices, with a personal nod to the Sensation because I like HTC Sense and their great build quality.

Having said that though, most people are in agreement that the SGSII is the king of the hill right now, even over those later release phones. Among other features it has a superior Super AMOLED display though both the Atrix and Sensation have a higher resolution. I've heard that it can be difficult to go back to the lower resolution of a SGSII when you have spent some time with a sharper display.

I have a Nokia E5 and the reception seems to suck in places where I know it should be good (because it is for other people on Telstra). It seems this has become worse over time and now I am at a point where I can't even walk around my apartment while on the phone without the person I'm speaking to complaining that they can't hear me properly or vice-a-versa. I Googled a bit and it seems a few people have had similar issues with this phone.

Any suggestions on what to do?

Off the top of my head, the HTC Sensation, Motorola Atrix and LG Optimus 2X are all highly regarded dual-core phones. There may be some others out there but they are likely Huawei and other "no-name" brands.

Of those the Sensation and Atrix are probably the better choices, with a personal nod to the Sensation because I like HTC Sense and their great build quality.

Having said that though, most people are in agreement that the SGSII is the king of the hill right now, even over those later release phones. Among other features it has a superior Super AMOLED display though both the Atrix and Sensation have a higher resolution. I've heard that it can be difficult to go back to the lower resolution of a SGSII when you have spent some time with a sharper display.

Atrix is awesome. Took the plunge and ordered one off Ebay, haven't looked back.

Battery life on it is bloody excellent for it's size/power. I'm a light to medium user and can get up to 2 days usage.

must have android apps?

must have android apps?

Check this thread mate: http://www.adelaidemassive.com/index.php?topic=6236.0

My list has changed a fair bit from what I posted there mostly due to saving space and buying a few apps...see below. I've crossed out the ones I no longer have and highlighted those that are essential IMO. All are free versions unless noted.

Android System Info - has a cool widget showing battery/disk space
Angry Birds/Angry Birds Rio/Angry Bird Seasons
App 2 SD Free
ASTRO File Manager
Barcode Scanner
Basketball II
Basketball Shots 3D
BatteryLife - great looking battery icon - stopped using it since getting Android System Info though.
Apparatus Lite - Like The Incredible Machine Bought the full version.
Manic Mechanics Lite - ditto
DiskUsage - good graphical representation of disk space to help with culling apps.
Doodle Fit FREE - awesome puzzle game Stopped working after the latest update.
Drag Racing
Driveway Basketball Free
FF Lite - hilarious game - use someone's photo as a face you beat up, it's actually a clever fighting mechanic too.
Clever Contraptions - another TIM clone.
Football Kicks
Fruit Slice
Goggles
Google Sky Map
Gurk - old school 8-bit RPG!
HomeRunBattle3D - heaps of fun, good use of accelerometer. Bought the full version. Best game on my phone...
iFishing Lite - also a good game for the accelerometer
IMDb - easy for movie trailers and info
KeePassDroid - I use KeePass for password management on PC as well so this is real handy.
Kick Off
Leo's RC Simulator
OI File Manager - not as good as Astro but required for some apps for its file browser plugin capability.
Paper Toss
Pocket Soccer
Pool Break Lite
Replica Island - cool platformer, kind of like Mario Bros. that uses the optical button.
Retro Camera
Skype
Slice It!
SoundHound
Stats Free - keeps track of calls/data usage, a feature that HTC/Android should include natively and is an odd omission!
Super KO Boxing 2 Free - this is cool, great GFX.
SystemPanel Lite - kind of redundant due to Android System Info but this has a real-time memory/CPU display that I like, which ASI doesn't.
Talking Tom - funny little cartoon cat that repeats voice input.
Thermo - useful when the weather doesn't update due to dodgy cell towers and I want to know the temperature.
Unified Remote - this is awesome, you can control a lot of different PC functions via bluetooth.
WebMD - luckily I haven't needed this lol, but it's a very comprehensive medical app for diagnosis and emergencies.
WhatsApp - better IM than Skype IMO
WifiWidget - great for managing WiFi connections and showing info.
Words Free - get this! A Scrabble ripoff and my most played game - I have a few matches going with various mates ATM.
World Newspapers
X Construct - another TIM physics game which is fun.

In addition I now have:

Cut The Rope - cool game...you must get this through Getjar though for the ad-supported free version.
DI Radio - streaming internet radio - electronic music of pretty much all genres.
Elixir - best system tool/screen widget tool out there!
FxCamera - a bit funkier than the previous camera app I had.
Lookout - backup/malware scanner - not sure how necessary this is but it's nice for peace of mind.
MagicMarker - nifty little drawing app.
Miren Browser - lots of great features over the stock browser.
MyBackupPro - bought the full version - it can back up nearly everything possible without rooting and if you root you can backup everything.
SKY.fm Radio - same dev as DI Radio except this offers all non-electronica genres...the classic rap station is wicked and you'd be all over that.
TurboFly 3D - bought the full version - cool racing game.


Unfortunately compared to Apple's Appstore good games are much scarcer. There are also a lot of apps that don't show up in my Market either so there'd be likely be some other good ones in the Australian Market for you to try I reckon.

I DLed Angry Birds yesterday. I already hate those little green pigs!

I just got a HTC Desire S.

Looked at some of those other fancier ones but damn they are all huge. How can people carry those things around? 

With both guile and panache

With both guile and panache

First time I've ever seen that mentioned by someone on the internet.

Congratulations.

I just got a HTC Desire S.

Looked at some of those other fancier ones but damn they are all huge. How can people carry those things around? 

Nice choice.

Tobes grabbed one a few weeks ago. Quality. I have it's bigger brother, an HD with a battery-sucking screen - battery life is ridiculous but browsing on it sure has it's merits. 

I have ~100 apps on my phone

how many of these do you use daily/weekly?

My mum just got a HTC Incredible S

I once saw this very same woman try turn the tv on with her nokia

Pray, for all networks, people.

I am having HTC Windows Mobile old version and I am satisfied with my phone in every functionality. If anyone want to buy a new phone then i would recommend HTC Mobiles. 

Lol is that last post some kind of spam?

how many of these do you use daily/weekly?

TBH most of them are games that I don't really play much and I only have them because they were 10c during that sale. Apart from those I would say there is a core 3-4 games like Words With Friends, the Kairosoft games and a few others that I play several times a week and a rotation of 10 or so other games that might get fired up for a quick play during my commutes to and from work.

Most of the others are pretty essential, Dropbox and Dropsync keep my photos/data backed up in the cloud, MyBackup Pro backs up messages and other phone data and I use Opera browser and Fantasy Monster Pro on a daily basis along with some other sports apps that give info on fantasy and general news.

The rest would be taken up by live wallpapers (most of them were 10c and I change them as I get bored) and various system type apps that run in the background and are in constant use such as widgets and the like.

So basically I use all of the non-game apps several times a week and it's really only the games that see less use...unless it happens to be a day when I am sitting around somewhere with nothing to do and therefore have more time to sit down and play some of the more involved ones.

Just got a galaxy SII as my new work phone. Really nice. It's large but thin and light, I like it. Was going to get the iphone just to see what it's like, but you can't get the sim card out? I need to be able to do that so I can use my other phone when I need better reception (it has a plug for an external aerial). Was kind of a deal breaker. Also, someone told me you can't use an iphone as an external disk drive? Is this right? If so that is fucking retarded.

Also, my phone is telling me you need to upgrade your Tapatalk plugin Oli.

ORLY

Will look at it soon.

Btw the 4G on my new HTC Velocity absolutely slaughters the battery.

First thing to do with an android is to dig up the power management and data dashboard widgets and make them easy to find - switching things like wireless on and off when not used/needed will massively increase battery longevity.

Yeah I use JuiceDefender Ultimate and it definitely made a big difference.

Ive got an incredible S and its great. quick, easy to use and the battery seems good. Managed to watch an entire season of walking dead (minus five minutes grrrrr) on one charge. 
I keep network internet off and pretty much just use my home wifi network for downloads and updates and shit but thats only because my deal allows for 200mb  (thats right a useless 200mb). Most of the time in the city I latch on to free network anyway so its pretty rare that ill even switch the network internet on.
I use astro as a file manager but all the juice use apps annoy me. By default my phone goes into power save mode when it gets to 30% and then slowly starts shutting down non essential shit incrementally until its drained.

Dont know if it interests anyone but I use maps a fair bit so maps labs features have been really handy. It has a feature which allows you to save a map for 10kms around a location which ive found pretty handy for getting a map for places where I cant get phone service

Yeah I use JuiceDefender Ultimate and it definitely made a big difference.

I hated it when I tried it. The delay between turning on radios etc. when your screen comes on is annoying when I needed to look up something quickly plus my syncing got all screwed up.

I can get a full day of 12 hours or so on one charge with everything cranking; Activesync set to push mail, regular email set to check every 5 minutes and my weather updating every hour. So I'm not too fussed. It's only if I play a few games that it takes a bigger hit.

I hated it when I tried it. The delay between turning on radios etc. when your screen comes on is annoying when I needed to look up something quickly plus my syncing got all screwed up.

I can get a full day of 12 hours or so on one charge with everything cranking; Activesync set to push mail, regular email set to check every 5 minutes and my weather updating every hour. So I'm not too fussed. It's only if I play a few games that it takes a bigger hit.

Seems instant for me, I never experience any lag after the data is enabled when the screen is made active. The Ultimate version lets you customise a lot of the features as well which is really good.

5 minute email check? I'd go nuts if I had that on.

The best thing you can do for battery life with any android phone (especially HTC sense based) is to crack a new ROM on there. I get batshit-insane battery life on the Desire with a Villain AOSP GB ROM (based on Cyanogenmod). It's faster and smoother to use, just way better. All you have to do is get used to using alternative apps for all the stuff sense used to do (email, dialer, alarm, launcher etc.) which really isn't hard - most of them are better anyway, but the integration of Sense is pretty handy - I used to think Sense WAS android for a while - I didn't realise it was from HTC. The kernel you use is obviously very important too.

The Samsung has great battery life right out of the box, but I'll still chuck a custom ROM on there just for fun. I probably should be a bit careful with my work phone I suppose but I can't help it.

Watching an entire season of The Walking Dead on one battery is fucking impressive. I wouldn't change anything lol!


Glock did/do you have a Desire? Or a something similar? My guess is that the Velocity would have very little lag - the difference in performance between my Desire and the Sammy is bigger than I thought.

I am too dumb to figure out how to root this phone.

Not to mention I don't have a PC and it seems you need a PC to run most of the ROM flashing tools.

5 minute email check? I'd go nuts if I had that on.

Lol, that's why I don't have any work emails on here...purely personal.

Glock did/do you have a Desire? Or a something similar? My guess is that the Velocity would have very little lag - the difference in performance between my Desire and the Sammy is bigger than I thought.

I've got an SGSII as well...

Now that I think about it though I think I may have only tried JuiceDefender on my old HTC Legend so that would make a difference for sure.

TBH though since I got the 2.3.6 upgrade the battery life has been so good I haven't been too fussed. I was out from 6am-2am last Monday (Superbowl breakfast then kicking on until late lol) and it was only hitting the low teens by then. I probably made two or three calls, a bit of messaging via Whatsapp and was accessing various internet sites throughout the day.

Lol, that's why I don't have any work emails on here...purely personal.

Ah OK. My email is 95% work anyway hence my comment.

Watching an entire season of The Walking Dead on one battery is fucking impressive. I wouldn't change anything lol!

I should mention that it was the first season with only 7 episodes 

I've got an SGSII as well...

Now that I think about it though I think I may have only tried JuiceDefender on my old HTC Legend so that would make a difference for sure.

TBH though since I got the 2.3.6 upgrade the battery life has been so good I haven't been too fussed. I was out from 6am-2am last Monday (Superbowl breakfast then kicking on until late lol) and it was only hitting the low teens by then. I probably made two or three calls, a bit of messaging via Whatsapp and was accessing various internet sites throughout the day.

Ah cool. TBH I don't think Juice defender works that well either, at least no where near what you can gain in batt life elsewhere. I Don't use it.

I should mention that it was the first season with only 7 episodes 

 Still fucking impressive.

Yeah the battery set up seems fine to me. If I use it just for texts and calls ill get a couple of days life out of it

I have so many issues with Kies. Plug in phone, it doesnt start. Already have Kies running? I cant even maximize it

shits me

I have so many issues with Kies. Plug in phone, it doesnt start. Already have Kies running? I cant even maximize it

shits me

Kies fucking sucks. Absolutely fucking sucks. I only use it for firmware updates and I believe that will be the only reason I ever need to use it.

I use apps on the phone (e.g. MyBackup Pro) to do any backing up so I don't miss its other features much anyway.

PS. I've heard of this other updater called Odin but it all sounds a bit sketchy to me; Samsung don't make it, some devs on XDA do...I'm not sure how official/clean the firmware is through there.

Also, what firmware are you running? I'm on 2.3.6 and I found that the phone's behaviour with Kies was much improved. For instance, it doesn't lock you out constantly with that stupid sync screen anymore but only flashes it up when data operations are taking place.

Still running my Galaxy S... I use JuiceDefender without any problems.
Rooted with Darkys ROM 10.2 & I'm getting at least a full days charge with bluetooth & data/wifi on... as long as I turn off Wifi at work. For some reason it fuckin kills it in a few hours but at home it barely touches it.

Had to use ODIN a few times when things went a little haywire during ROM update.
You can use any ROM with ODIN, it just talks to the phone. You select what files to use and it does it's thing. Easy once you get it to recognize the phone.

I used to think Sense WAS android for a while - I didn't realise it was from HTC

Say what?

What is Sense? Just a GUI?

Say what?

What is Sense? Just a GUI?

Yeah. Most of the major players have them, it's basically a wrapper over the top of Android.

HTC = Sense
Samsung - TouchWiz
Motorola = Blur

etc.

Hence why the Google/Nexus phones are always so anticipated as they are "meant" to offer the pure Android experience...they do UI-wise, but the updates are still at the mercy of being approved by the hardware manufacturer which people don't like. I think Google is a few ahead of what Samsung have approved for the Nexus currently.

Still they still get the latest firmware quicker than any of the other phones with the wrappers on them as they obviously require much more extra tweaking and the like.

K.

I can't really be screwed with messing around/rooting/customising my phone anymore. I just use it for work shit anyway so I don't associate it with anything really fun.

K.

I can't really be screwed with messing around/rooting/customising my phone anymore. I just use it for work shit anyway so I don't associate it with anything really fun.

I'm the same, mine does pretty much everything beautifully without a hitch, I haven't even rooted it. I may do that some time though when I am confident the warranty is not so much of an issue as there are some great apps out there with features that are root only...

 Reading this thread makes me realise how much I like my iPhone (stay with me here).

 I hack the SHIT out of my laptop, spend way too many hours as it is adjusting every setting and tweaking it as much as I can. If I had a phone that i could do that too as well it would be a nightmare. My workload would be doubled!

 I like my phone being rock solid and I know I wouldn't be able to resist messing with it. This is one scenario when Apple's closed loop works for me.

Reading this thread makes me realise how much I like my iPhone (stay with me here).

 I hack the SHIT out of my laptop, spend way too many hours as it is adjusting every setting and tweaking it as much as I can. If I had a phone that i could do that too as well it would be a nightmare. My workload would be doubled!

 I like my phone being rock solid and I know I wouldn't be able to resist messing with it. This is one scenario when Apple's closed loop works for me.

Except for the fact that you COULD jailbreak it and make it control your toaster and whatever the hell else as well.