People playing all their own tunes

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 4:16pm**

Some people complained about Pendulum playing all their own tunes (not singling anyone out) but is this a bad thing? When you go and see a band you expect them to play a bunch of their own tunes. I guess it is a bit different with DJing since it usually does involve playing other people's music as well, but nowadays all the big name DJs got where they are through their production.

A lot of people, aka "the heads", would be expecting them to dig a bit deeper into their cd cases but a lot of other people, aka "the punters" would be gagging for an onslaught of Pendulum tunes.

There are only a few DJ/Producers who I could handle playing two hours of their own stuff. Calibre, Klute, Teebee, London Electricity, etc... I have to say when Dillinja and Lemon D came and played a bunch of their own tunes I was bored shitless.

Where do you stand on this?

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 4:29pm**

assuming we are talking only Drum and Bass DJs/Producers.

i dont have a problem with people that play a set of their own tunes or a set of just 1 producers tunes as long as they can mix well, the tunes are in an appropriate order and keep dancefloor cranking..

(for the paranoid the following comment is directed at noone in particular) remember its only cheese if you were the idiot that abused it.. youve got hands cut your ears off if you dont like it

along with the dj/producers khem already mentioned i could also handle sets by these peepz of all their own tunes

DJ Marky
Dom and Roland
Roni Size
Evol Intent

may expand on this as the convo progresses

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 4:37pm**

Khem wrote:

Where do you stand on this?

Well, clearly I don't get out much but I do think this.

If I was clever, I'd want to show my shit off, but if my mood swung and I felt like playing something I hadn't heard in a bit, or something that I could get off on seeing the crowd love, then yeah, I'd play it.

So, if they wanna play their own stuff - they just need to be sure to get the crowd involved and up first. If they start losing them, then they should have a back up crate. Core bidness - make the people happy.

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 4:40pm**

Casa wrote:

Khem wrote:

Where do you stand on this?

Well, clearly I don't get out much but I do think this.

If I was clever, I'd want to show my shit off, but if my mood swung and I felt like playing something I hadn't heard in a bit, or something that I could get off on seeing the crowd love, then yeah, I'd play it.

So, if they wanna play their own stuff - they just need to be sure to get the crowd involved and up first. If they start losing them, then they should have a back up crate. Core bidness - make the people happy.

without flattering you too much casa

well put i must say

its all about the crowd.. otherwise you might aswell be playing with yourself at home

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 4:57pm**

well they have to hear the tune 10 000 times while producing it, and then probly play it out for a few months before its even released. so id assume djs playin there big anthems would get pretty boring for them after a few months.

most people will cut sick if they go see pendulum and slam doesnt get played. but i guess when i went to see roni size the whole time i was waiting for brown paper bag. dkay and stamina played barcelona and i actualy spoke to stamina after and he said he hates singing/ playin the same tunes every time he plays and wants people to reconise him for more than just 1 or 2 anthems.

really it comes down to the trainspoters vs munts on the dancefloor i guess.. which ever out numbers the other is what the dj will play to.

even if a dj does have to play a couple of the same tunes every time he plays you can compare that to another style of music like a rock band were they only play their tunes week in week out untill they release another album. then you think hey djs arent that bad off after all.

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 5:30pm**

honestly who cares...

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 5:54pm**

If they play all their own tunes, then they aren't really djing, it's more of a live PA...

That said you got to expect they are going to play a couple of their most popular tunes, if it wasn't for those tunes then they wouldn't be getting to travel the world spinning tunes for a living! And with the crowd reaction they get from those songs, wouldn't you spin them if you were in their position?

Food for thought anyways///

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 5:55pm**

dj_hybred wrote:

If they play all their own tunes, then they aren't really djing, it's more of a live PA...

how is it a live pa if they are playing records? theres no real 'live' element

Posted: **29 Dec 2005, 6:00pm**

Khem wrote:

dj_hybred wrote:

If they play all their own tunes, then they aren't really djing, it's more of a live PA...

how is it a live pa if they are playing records? theres no real 'live' element

Well, live PA's usually involve an artist promoting their wares by way of pre-recorded music... To me being a dj involves taking the best bits of the music you love... Not just playing your own shizzle to promote your bizzle...

Posted: **30 Dec 2005, 11:00am**

velocity wrote:

most people will cut sick if they go see pendulum and slam doesnt get played. but i guess when i went to see roni size the whole time i was waiting for brown paper bag. dkay and stamina played barcelona and i actualy spoke to stamina after and he said he hates singing/ playin the same tunes every time he plays and wants people to reconise him for more than just 1 or 2 anthems.

i understand what you mean here luke, but that's not really the point i feel.

playing a few of your own tunes during your set should happen most definitely. that is what got the dj's/producer's where they are today. when you hear all of the one groups stuff though it gets a little boring and draining e.g. pendulum.

when d-bridge was here for enchanted, he played a few of his own tunes, but predominately dropped other peoples tunes through his set which was great to hear.

honestly, if i wanted to just hear one producers tunes, i'd buy there and not see them when they came out.

variety is the spice of life.

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 8:57am**

Just going on from what Chris was saying I think that it's expected for artists, especially those with mainstream appeal like pendulum to drop their own tunes.. It's what the punters expect and that's why they are here.. To promote their records etc.. That said I think it does become a little boring to have a complete set of the same producer or even sometimes the same record label..

Even if each of the tunes is a corker in it's own right, I think sometimes sets lack progression if all sound a bit the same...

D-Bridge played heaps of other people's tunes which was great... From memory he dropped a VIP of True Romance towards the end of the set.. Perhaps some middle ground can be found by DJ's coming and playing a few of their anthems and a few of their own remixes or those done by other artists.. Like Fresh dropping submarines (pendulum rmx)..

My 2c

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 9:29am**

Morgan wrote:

D-Bridge played heaps of other people's tunes which was great... From memory he dropped a VIP of True Romance towards the end of the set.. Perhaps some middle ground can be found by DJ's coming and playing a few of their anthems and a few of their own remixes or those done by other artists.. Like Fresh dropping submarines (pendulum rmx)..

My 2c

d-bridge wqas a perfect example of a well constructed set played a variety of producers tunes but all in the vein of the slow dark roller and he capped it off with the ultimate slow dark roller which happens to be by him and vegas the mighty TRUE ROMANCE

i agree with what khemo said dillinja and lemonD was boring because they played predominantly their tunes which i find boring any way.

i also agree that certain producer's can play an entire set of their own tunes and i think as khem said TEEBEE is the perfect example. i love his tunes and his mixing all his tunes have that signature TEEBEE sound but don't all sound like the same re-hashed track over and over like for example dillinja.

fresh for example on new years played pretty much 100% fresh or BBk tunes which i found bored me shitless others however probably loved it.
my 5c

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 9:41am**

yeah i am thinking the same thing

there is nothing worse than going to see someone play twice (either in the same town or interstate or whatever) and their sets are similar (if not exact). i would prefer something fresh, where the dj is reading the crowd and creating something individual and special.

i understand alot of people would go to see pendulum and want to hear their tunes, but if a dj is bored playing the same stuff everytime, it certainly comes across in their set. i have always found that the best sets are the ones where the dj is really into it and having fun with it.

imo of course

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 10:15am**

dirty dave wrote:

the mighty TRUE ROMANCE
my 5c

I can't get over how good this tune is.. I'm smiling just thinking about it..

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 10:19am**

a lot of the internationals we go to see are predominantly producers and did not get into the scene through djing, but by producing. they pick up djing later. IMO this changes the way they play - as a dj will usually read the crowd better and like maz said, will enjoy it more so will play a wider range of tunes (and will usually mix better too)

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 10:51am**

deadsy wrote:

However, I still think if you pay big money to see DJs play live, their set should be entertaining to watch; Not just Djs standing up there playing songs off a record (Or files from a laptop) without giving the crowd "somethin' for their money".

Next time I see D-Bridge I want him to juggle flaming batons...

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 10:51am**

im totally all for interanationals playing their own stuff, isnt it these tunes that got em to where they are ??
pendulum playing their own stuff i thought was really good. the likes of BSE when they last came, played their whole new album, bits of the old album, basically everything they had released as well, and it was rockin. calyx did the same last set at earth, played tunes he had made [new and old] and it rocked!!
fuck , when noisia come here, they had better be playing all their stuff as well

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 11:03am**

jason wrote:

im totally all for interanationals playing their own stuff, isnt it these tunes that got em to where they are ??
pendulum playing their own stuff i thought was really good. the likes of BSE when they last came, played their whole new album, bits of the old album, basically everything they had released as well, and it was rockin. calyx did the same last set at earth, played tunes he had made [new and old] and it rocked!!
fuck , when noisia come here, they had better be playing all their stuff as well

i dunno, to me, it makes me feel like i should just listen to their cd!

i understand what you mean Jason, but at the same time, i like to mix things up a little.

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 11:24am**

velocity wrote:

well they have to hear the tune 10 000 times while producing it, and then probly play it out for a few months before its even released. so id assume djs playin there big anthems would get pretty boring for them after a few months.

i don't think they would get bored of the tunes they make at all. after seeing the clip with on the future music dvd where ansenic [sp.] is talkin about producing a couple of the tracks you can see he still loves hearing them even after making them and touring

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 11:58am**

deadsy wrote:

Morgan wrote:

deadsy wrote:

However, I still think if you pay big money to see DJs play live, their set should be entertaining to watch; Not just Djs standing up there playing songs off a record (Or files from a laptop) without giving the crowd "somethin' for their money".

Next time I see D-Bridge I want him to juggle flaming batons...

Hahaha - That's not really what I meant tho....

I just mean you want to experience the music live in a different way to experiencing the artist's cd you know?

That's I go to see live music, electronic or otherwise.

I need a scotch & coke.

i just thought id clear one thing up when a DJ is mixing it is live you see it isnt just a pre-recorded mix put on a cd and played if it was im sure you would see them juggling flaming batons..

if you like the live vibe or bands go see them this topic is more about the dj playing only their own tunes in a set.

DJ's dont just play records there is alot more to it then that. but why go into it

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 12:45pm**

Quote:

i just thought id clear one thing up when a DJ is mixing it is live you see it isnt just a pre-recorded mix put on a cd and played if it was im sure you would see them juggling flaming batons..

if you like the live vibe or bands go see them this topic is more about the dj playing only their own tunes in a set.

DJ's dont just play records there is alot more to it then that. but why go into it

Indeed - Why go into it

Many thanks for clearing that up.

Meh

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 1:31pm**

[quote="deadsy]Indeed - Why go into it

Many thanks for clearing that up.

Meh[/quote]

Indeed - Meh

i just thought you were missing point was all, nevermind

by the way scotch and coke sounds good but hookers and coke would be better

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 1:41pm**

That's cool mate - no problem.....Just Long & Boring Fridays, in anticipation for the weekend, and I always miss the point

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 2:30pm**

Outsider wrote:

by the way scotch and coke sounds good but hookers and coke would be better

now youre talkin'!

Posted: **6 Jan 2006, 4:01pm**

jason wrote:

i
pendulum playing their own stuff i thought was really good. the likes of BSE when they last came, played their whole new album, bits of the old album, basically everything they had released as well, and it was rockin. calyx did the same last set at earth, played tunes he had made [new and old] and it rocked!!
fuck , when noisia come here, they had better be playing all their stuff as well

The difference with those guys though is that every pendulum track has been cained to death by everyone + the radio as well.

Unless your a hardcore Calyx, Noisia or BSE fan you wouldnt have heard all of the tracks 56465646464 times