Attention All DJs/ MCs:-Secret to your Success?

Posted: **16 Dec 2005, 8:43am**

CATASTROPHIC wrote:

and i remember being front row for one of his 1st adrave parties when the power went down 4 times in 20 mins ....HAHAHA just wanted to add that bit

Hahah that wouldnt have been the one at the place above the night train - I was at that one (altho i was underage) - that was one of my first parties I went to - Sunscape I think it was?!

Posted: **16 Dec 2005, 12:04pm**

chris wrote:

Quazza wrote:

Khem wrote:

ahh yes, nosh... remember playing at a few of those too.

good times....love those smacked out goths!Mmmmmmmmmm

i went to that a couple of times. classsssssy.

Jebus i remember rockin down to those night when i was a tiny tiny tacker. Had a mate who playing in the basement, man that basement was rockin! Not that i can remember it to well.

Posted: **16 Dec 2005, 12:14pm**

the secret to my success as australias best unheard dj is a big head and a giant erection

Posted: **17 Dec 2005, 7:48pm**

Frost wrote:

CATASTROPHIC wrote:

and i remember being front row for one of his 1st adrave parties when the power went down 4 times in 20 mins ....HAHAHA just wanted to add that bit

Hahah that wouldnt have been the one at the place above the night train - I was at that one (altho i was underage) - that was one of my first parties I went to - Sunscape I think it was?!

that was the one!

wicked night even with the power troubles lol.

leavin tunes in the mix, goin out havin a dance, pushin it from the floor.. good times haha

Posted: **18 Dec 2005, 2:28am**

Yak wrote:

Why hide that beautiful moisture enriched face behind a mask then?

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Posted: **18 Dec 2005, 4:04am**

Shocked good one GARY
gone and ruined it...

Posted: **19 Dec 2005, 8:58pm**

ive always thought this>

if u come up to me and ask for a set thats ok,

but if 10 other punters come up to me and say "man that dj should play out" is where its at.

I started buying dnb in 94 and got sets at vaious house parties/ down south gigs etc in 95 and got my first weekly residency playing dnb in 96. Ive been flat out going out every weekend since. I couldnt give a rats ass about starting work at 7am everyday, i wanted to play out and run amok with the crew. hence im here for life!

as jenna g says" Im still in love!" who wants da rewind.

Posted: **19 Dec 2005, 9:34pm**

fiction wrote:

as jenna g says" Im still in love!" who wants da rewind.

Posted: **23 Dec 2005, 3:12pm**

fiction wrote:

but if 10 other punters come up to me and say "man that dj should play out" is where its at.

how often does this happen?? so many people out there mix, most of them guys, and guys have egos so they compete. i cant see many people out there sayin to promoters "hey look, so and so is a rad dj. he should be playin gigs hey" he'd rather be sayin "i'm rad gimme a set"

on the ego tip look at the thread to the 5158 gig... everyone was all "i got all these rad new tunes on the way, hope i get to play such and such, the dancefloor is gunna go nuts, i'm gunna start with this tune and then that tune" etc etc.

reality check

please correct me if i am wrong, its a serious question not havin a bash at yer statement

Posted: **23 Dec 2005, 3:15pm**

doesnt happen too often, but ive had a few people say "yeah this guy can mix he's fully sick blah blah blah" and im like whatever... i ask for a cd and usually end up not getting one.

Posted: **24 Dec 2005, 9:17pm**

Fluke wrote:

fiction wrote:

but if 10 other punters come up to me and say "man that dj should play out" is where its at.

how often does this happen?? so many people out there mix, most of them guys, and guys have egos so they compete. i cant see many people out there sayin to promoters "hey look, so and so is a rad dj. he should be playin gigs hey" he'd rather be sayin "i'm rad gimme a set"

on the ego tip look at the thread to the 5158 gig... everyone was all "i got all these rad new tunes on the way, hope i get to play such and such, the dancefloor is gunna go nuts, i'm gunna start with this tune and then that tune" etc etc.

reality check

please correct me if i am wrong, its a serious question not havin a bash at yer statement

it doesnt happen very often, if it does, well thats good then isnt it.

remember im a "promoter."

Posted: **25 Dec 2005, 3:50am**

Man this is a huge subject for me. I’ve been mcing for years, back in the traffic days, getting up on the mic at the end of the night. I know I have a lot to offer the scene but yet I still have to learn which is hard if you don’t get the opportunity to get on stage. I’m always wondering what to do. I don’t want to suck up to get gigs but I feel I have to. I feel it’s the only way of getting anywhere. I feel that I hinder my progress because I can’t chat someone’s ear off and I don’t know how to work the scene to my advantage. I just wanna get up on stage and dance and mc. I don’t know how to sway peeps to get me on stage and it fucks me off, I’m not like that. Is it about chatting up peeps or your talent? As strike said

Stryke wrote:

Practice. Stick to your guns.

That’s the best I can do and what I plan on doing. I don’t wanna lose me self-respect because I talked my way onto a stage. Just wanna be who I am and peeps to respect that.

Posted: **19 Jan 2006, 12:02pm**

its a fickle scene

one moment youre getting sets an average of every other weekend, and then all of a sudden none for months at a time.
loads of DJs, limited amount of sets... and yeah grimey youre right about pigeon holing. i like the liquid stuff but prefer the harder, dubbier stuff that usually goes off real late in the night. but having put on a more liquid oriented show for a little while meant i got plenty of offers to play warm up sets. i certainly wasnt going to knock em back
and meant i could hit the piss straight after the set anyway

Posted: **24 Jan 2006, 2:41pm**

Khem wrote:

doesnt happen too often, but ive had a few people say "yeah this guy can mix he's fully sick blah blah blah" and im like whatever... i ask for a cd and usually end up not getting one.

you mean a cd of mixed local tunes? or a cd of mixed tunes khem...
e.g. i doubt skyver wouldve had to mix his tunes before getting a set...
then again...the labels his tunes were finally put on are testament to his work...
anyways..listen...success is a word...someone who has played non-stop every week for the past 15 years (like brendon ...thats a good example)...is in my eyes just as successful as someone who works in their lab every day for the past 15 years...this scene is lucky to have so many djs male and female too, to drop all the tunes all the latest rubs from overseas and a few form australia...but not everyone can keep doing that when they realise theres other things in the scene that need to be done...thats why promoters dont always play every week..producers dont always play all their own tunes every gig and thank god the same tunes dont get played every week (thanks to the large amount of records store online and in adelaide we got to choose from)

i reckons the drum and bass scene is going great here...ever since 95 when i went in the dmc comp with kaotic at heaven (we got second place)..i have dreamed of being able to see a DIFFERENT internatty each month in adelaide...and rumble helped show that drum and bass covers a large area ina small non-rave space....and many other close quartered events sprung up after the first rumble gig in 95/96 (inbound...aesthetics...etc etc.)
so i reckon its important to remain involved in the scene any way you can to support it...whether you get heaps of gigs or not...if anyone truly believes they are a better dj than that guy or can mix better than that dj...then you are doing progress no justice......maybe...
i said before on this site...succeess does not have a time line attached to it...you can be successful (or so you think ) over a stretch of five years of gigs and events...or you can look after you scene, your health..your friends and other supporters...be a nice balanced person and still be successsful 30 years from now....
we the only ones stopping ourselves

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:26pm**

walked down fitzroy street, st kilda, met a dude who ran a bar, went back to the apartment, got rekkid box, went back, played 2 hour set, got offered every thursday night 4 hours when i move over in a month. easy....

adelaide is shite.

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:34pm**

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:37pm**

not gays, but victorians..its all the same everywhere u go

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:42pm**

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

well, on a monday night, in melbourne there is actually a major amount of people flowing around at 12 midnight.......

in adelaide on a thursday night at the corresponding time you could fire a shot off from an elephant gun down rundle street and not hit anyone..... Sleeping

the point is, it's a hell of a lot easier to get work in a big city, with lots of stuff going on, than it is in a city the size of adelaide..........
a 80 person night in adelaide is a 4-500 person night in melbourne - it's just due to the size differences. ever considered that maybe thats why there are so many bedroom dj's in adelaide in comparison to guys who play out? the ratio is completely different in melb, sydney, brisbane, perth, and the list goes on......fuck there are hardly any venues in adelaide as it is, due to the small size of the scene here (not saying the scene isn't a good one, it's just miniscule compared to the eastern states - fer fucksake the bdo only got 20k puinters in adelaide....the goldy one alone had 45k punters). it's just basic economics of scale - the bigger the city, the better the opportunities. why do you think adelaide always misses out on so many artists, yet the eastern seaboard gets em all?

btw adelaide is listed as a regional town in most freight forwarding and shipping documents - regional = country town

and having said all that.......
i rest my case

homophobe!!!! bwahahahahahahaha....

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:48pm**

nickdub wrote:

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

homophobe!!!!

is it that obvious

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:51pm**

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

true that

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:53pm**

The Anchorman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

true that

well fuck off the both of ya!

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 7:57pm**

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

homophobe!!!!

is it that obvious

no, in fact i was being sarcastic, i thought i could see cum dribbling down ya chin!!! Razz

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 8:05pm**

plasticman wrote:

The Anchorman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

true that

well fuck off the both of ya!

*packs bags to go to holland*

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 8:09pm**

The Anchorman wrote:

plasticman wrote:

The Anchorman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

true that

well fuck off the both of ya!

*packs bags to go to holland*

can i hold your bags??

it's that whole melbourne gay thing coming out

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 8:50pm**

nickdub wrote:

The Anchorman wrote:

plasticman wrote:

The Anchorman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

true that

well fuck off the both of ya!

*packs bags to go to holland*

can i hold your bags??

it's that whole melbourne gay thing coming out

only if i can hold urs

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 9:27pm**

The Anchorman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

The Anchorman wrote:

*packs bags to go to holland*

can i hold your bags??

it's that whole melbourne gay thing coming out

only if i can hold urs

Which bags are yahs talking about..........

Posted: **3 Feb 2006, 9:41pm**

nickdub wrote:

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

homophobe!!!!

is it that obvious

no, in fact i was being sarcastic, i thought i could see cum dribbling down ya chin!!! Razz

nah its pale ale froth

Posted: **4 Feb 2006, 9:20am**

nickdub wrote:

plasticman wrote:

nickdub wrote:

adelaide is shite.

you wont be saying that after living in melbs for a while mate...its full of gays

not that there's anything wrong with that

well, on a monday night, in melbourne there is actually a major amount of people flowing around at 12 midnight.......

in adelaide on a thursday night at the corresponding time you could fire a shot off from an elephant gun down rundle street and not hit anyone..... Sleeping

the point is, it's a hell of a lot easier to get work in a big city, with lots of stuff going on, than it is in a city the size of adelaide..........
a 80 person night in adelaide is a 4-500 person night in melbourne - it's just due to the size differences. ever considered that maybe thats why there are so many bedroom dj's in adelaide in comparison to guys who play out? the ratio is completely different in melb, sydney, brisbane, perth, and the list goes on......fuck there are hardly any venues in adelaide as it is, due to the small size of the scene here (not saying the scene isn't a good one, it's just miniscule compared to the eastern states - fer fucksake the bdo only got 20k puinters in adelaide....the goldy one alone had 45k punters). it's just basic economics of scale - the bigger the city, the better the opportunities. why do you think adelaide always misses out on so many artists, yet the eastern seaboard gets em all?

btw adelaide is listed as a regional town in most freight forwarding and shipping documents - regional = country town

and having said all that.......
i rest my case

homophobe!!!! bwahahahahahahaha....

what so instead of trying to make SA a better place we should all move away from Adelaide like people have been doing for far too long now... cities dont get big by everyone moving out.. they get big by everyone chipping into make people want to be there... dont give up like a sucker..

besides SA is a great place and i know quite a few people that have travelled the world abroad and still concur that SA is awesome.. if only the people that gave up on the state stuck around and actually tried to make it better rather than moaning like whores.

Posted: **4 Feb 2006, 2:00pm**

Outsider wrote:

what so instead of trying to make SA a better place we should all move away from Adelaide like people have been doing for far too long now... cities dont get big by everyone moving out.. they get big by everyone chipping into make people want to be there... dont give up like a sucker..

besides SA is a great place and i know quite a few people that have travelled the world abroad and still concur that SA is awesome.. if only the people that gave up on the state stuck around and actually tried to make it better rather than moaning like whores.

actually, i'm leaving due to scoring a far better job in melbourne than the one i currently have here (and i'm on $80k a year at the moment!!!), and considering that i have 12 years on you, tiger, i have seen the place diminish slowly but steadily in that time, in a commercial sense particularly, as well as in the music scene (hey for what it's worth adelaide was THE place to be for electronic music in the early 90's). the simple fact is that adelaide has a population that is increasing in age, and is basically going to end up as god's waiting room. don't get me wrong, it's a great place to raise kids, and retire, but a different story if you want to make it in the corporate world or in the music scene.....last word is, if you are young enough and keen enough, and want to play on a weekly, regular basis, the opportunities interstate are greater than they will ever be in adelaide.

but in the immortal words of general douglas macarthur:

"i shall return"

Posted: **4 Feb 2006, 2:46pm**

nickdub wrote:

Outsider wrote:

what so instead of trying to make SA a better place we should all move away from Adelaide like people have been doing for far too long now... cities dont get big by everyone moving out.. they get big by everyone chipping into make people want to be there... dont give up like a sucker..

besides SA is a great place and i know quite a few people that have travelled the world abroad and still concur that SA is awesome.. if only the people that gave up on the state stuck around and actually tried to make it better rather than moaning like whores.

actually, i'm leaving due to scoring a far better job in melbourne than the one i currently have here (and i'm on $80k a year at the moment!!!), and considering that i have 12 years on you, tiger, i have seen the place diminish slowly but steadily in that time, in a commercial sense particularly, as well as in the music scene (hey for what it's worth adelaide was THE place to be for electronic music in the early 90's). the simple fact is that adelaide has a population that is increasing in age, and is basically going to end up as god's waiting room. don't get me wrong, it's a great place to raise kids, and retire, but a different story if you want to make it in the corporate world or in the music scene.....last word is, if you are young enough and keen enough, and want to play on a weekly, regular basis, the opportunities interstate are greater than they will ever be in adelaide.

but in the immortal words of general douglas macarthur:

"i shall return"

well you do seem like a bright enough lad especially with the tiger part 1986 being year of the tiger.
so like arnie "youll be back". you make some good points.. sure there are greater opportunities else where but i guess i would like to see those same opportunities created here.. perhaps if we got rid of the adelaide council and let the business world develop Adelaide without so many damn restrictions things might take a better light.

as for ambitions based primarily on earning power (income) i have no choice but to give you a massive MEH!

(sorry if anyones day was ruined by going off topic)

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 1:59pm**

seems people who changes jobs for more money in a place where all their friends aren't living is the way to go for some....what a shame....when something doesnt go their way,...they pack up and leave the town...what tv show did you base your life on?...geez...i tell ya...this thread is a bout djs and their secret to succes....adelaide is a place any dj can make it...patience, consistency, perserverance...all those things...dedication...respect for your town and its people...from footy to food and beyond...adelaide has born and raised champs that live all over australia...why?...becuase they came from the grass roots of things...they started with nothing and respectfully built up their reps and skills..to bring balance to other cities that are full of people who dont have a clue about all the diverse things that exist around their country...i could walk down the street in melbourne and get a gig too.done it in queensland, perth and japan aswell...you'll be back...cause you wont get far with a money-orientated attitude...that doesnt bring success....so when you do come back...dont bitch about my town....make the choice to shape a positive force with the people, places and resources around you...
cheap rent...uncrowded and unpolluted air...future driven technology companies....makes it real easy to save up and travel around the globe...rather than tryna mack it in sydney or melbourne and having no cash to go anywhere outside of the country?...not my bag....survival and the ability to do it well depends on the skill a person/ company or whatever has to ADAPT

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 2:34pm**

Adelaide is D O P E - I've been to every city apart from Darwin and all cities have their good parts. But as far as living easy goes... Adelaide rocks sure I'm not gonna be here all my life but the appreciation of a city or you're home comes from leaving it to see the world and Australia. I chose to live here!!!!!!!! Everyone has that choice!!!!!! If you don't like it you fuck off!! See how friendly most people are here... then try to just talk to someone on the street in Sydney or Melbs and it's like 'What the f*ck do u want from me?' uno I've had little troubles here but it's all here if you want it. Then you gotta cruise for a bit and maybe come back if you like. But the best thing about Adelaide is the Drum & Bass on fresh especially when you've been in the country for like more than 4 weeks with no tunes except a couple of tapes! Australia's got nothing in the outback no mobile coverage, no radio frequency, no petrol for 350+ kms, nothing...

And the other cities although I have seen posters of DnB acts etc. I have never heard much DnB on the airwaves, uno to listen to when in the car or whatever... maybe its underground but I never saw DnB nights done by locals compared to the huge scene here, well Perth (Sydney & Melbs for Hip Hop) had a more healthy scene but it might just have to do with who I know!!

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 3:16pm**

Every dj needs a following, it is the dj's responsability to build thier own following.
so when you start out, you may only have a couple of friends who come out to see you, and through more exposure, the aim would be that you would flex your skill and sound in order to lure more fans/following.

This can be achieved in many differant ways, one of the best ways to expand your own market, is through handing out mix cds to your friends, think about how Groove Terminator did it... yes yes, when you are a big name dj, legal issues raise thier head and you may need clearance, however as a lesser known dj, this is a great way to get your name out there and into peoples heads.

Many of the djs in Adelaide have done this and created followings.
a little while back a dj friend of mine had handed out a few mix cds he handed a few to these cute girls on the dancefloor, those girls have been at every gig he played there after, because they loved the cd and remember his name. I think djs forget that the average punter does not hunt down music the same way a dj does, therefore a mix cd introduces them to sounds they are perhaps unfamiliar with.

Punters do demand that a dj gets booked, it happens all the time. recently in Sydney a young dj called Sakura has been slamming dancefloors and it was the punters that demanded he be booked more often. Today he is being booked at almost every party.

promoters can assist the promotion of particular djs through further exposure, suggesting that the media does a profile in street press, providing good time slots and generally creating a sense of hype around a dj. its been happening for years.

If you want it, its up to you to do something about it!

If you think moving to another city, country is the answer, consider for one moment that when you relocate, it will take you 3 months to set yourself up and tap into the local scene and another year before you actually settle into the way the system works and you find your niche. Sure a few freinds in high places helps move that along a little, however you are basically starting at scratch again and will need to build a new following.

You do not just relocate to another city and take over... it just doesnt work like that, you need to fit in, adapt and build from the ground up.

Adelaide is a terrific place to shape a career, as it is a condensed version of every other city in the world. If you can conquer Adelaide, then I believe you can conquer the world.

The reason people fail, is because they expect other people to do the work for them.

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 3:38pm**

Also, a little cheese can go a long way

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 3:57pm**

Stryke wrote:

Also, a little cheese can go a long way

Question Question Question Question Question Question Question Question Question

heres a mix cd i made, and would you like to try some brie

explain

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 4:00pm**

What eva! Adelaides DNB scene is the fricken best

Even the internattys who come to Adelaide find that our crowds are the most up for it, know their tune selection and love the classics.

Brisbane DnB heads are constantly complaining that they miss out on the gigs because they dont get the people or the numbers. Its hard to find any dnb over there, unless its a show run by the junglettes etc, and even then, its only locals

Melb Dnb is 'meh'. went to an inbound vs melb dnb crew show over there and their tunes are far too relaxed and very average.

Dont really know about Sydney but what I do know is house is huge over there and alot of people over there dont really have alot of time for dnb

And I dont need to say anything about Perth as we all know about the talent coming out from there

And NZ rocks it. they know whats going on and their scene reminded me very much of addy

So anyways we're offtopic

Thats me 2c

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 4:05pm**

Fluke wrote:

explain

I guess from playing at the Cumby, a fair portion of the punters arent really 'heads' so to speak, especially in terms of the people that actually dance. So you have to play the more accessable stuff to keep people moving.

Sometimes it frustrates me at the stuff that clears the floor there.

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 4:10pm**

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 4:43pm**

Stryke wrote:

Fluke wrote:

explain

I guess from playing at the Cumby, a fair portion of the punters arent really 'heads' so to speak, especially in terms of the people that actually dance. So you have to play the more accessable stuff to keep people moving.

Sometimes it frustrates me at the stuff that clears the floor there.

punters tend not to like the same stuff djs prefer

its all about the punters and always has been.... pub/weeknight venues are places to get people into the stuff, not to thrash the latest and greatest to the floor

the great thing about these sort of gigs is that you can play really old stuff, and tunes that have been cained and not get judged about it. you actually find that LK/ShakeYourBody/Bodyrock/Playtime/Feelings/insert-other-thrashed-tune will more often than not get a good reaction from everyday punters, as opposed to a dark/jaded/turn up the nose/as if hes playing that reaction you'd get from a headz crowd

Posted: **9 Feb 2006, 4:59pm**

Fluke wrote:

as opposed to a dark/jaded/turn up the nose/as if hes playing that reaction you'd get from a headz crowd

that kind of reaction really grinds my gears... if you dont like what there playing fuck off and come back later... or perhaps you could talk to people/socialise instead of putting a noose around the DJ's neck.

and to turn your nose up at new people getting into it is like old people hating young people just because... end rant