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Started by funkyj · 24 Aug 2005 · 16 posts survive · see it on the Wayback Machine

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funkyjJoined: 12 Aug 2003
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Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 11:15pmSubject: Glad this ain't really happened here!
SWAT-team raided an outdoor rave event in Utah.

Report by The Knick / Evol Intent
http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14814
(dnb forum)

Report by the local sheriff
http://www.co.utah.ut.us/News/DeptNewsDetails.asp?ID=17759&WN_System=S HERIFF

reports from partygoers
http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20020

some video footage
http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
(this is truly fucked up!)

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oliAdmin
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 12:57am
Heh. I knew someone would post this... I saw it yesterday.

Wouldn't suprise me if something like that happened at Enchanted Forest or some place like that...
Ms KJoined: 24 May 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 9:23am
hOLY CRAP, THATS REALLLY REALLY SCARY!!!
If that ever happened my dad would be calling his lawyers and sueing the bastards for all there worth.

You've obviously mistaken me for someone who cares

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warped fairyJoined: 14 May 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 10:34am
that is some nasty fucking shit...

couldn't watch the footage, but from the witness accounts it sounds totally unreal.

what a fucked up country they live in...

i think that's america's plan - just to fuck up the lives of innocent people wherever they may be....

punch

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cleascJoined: 07 Feb 2005
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 12:46pm
America is becoming the Germany of the 1930's.

Bush the next Hitler. --> Twisted Evil

Things are just going to get worse over there, the second the RAVE act
was introduced it was obvious that the whole live music scene was being targeted.

Let's just hope that the Australian govt doesn't follow the US in this regard.

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funkyjJoined: 12 Aug 2003
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 3:25pm
I can't believe people in the USA can be arrested for Suspicion of Resisting Arrest... that's fucking wrong.

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StrykeModerator
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 3:31pm
funkyj wrote:
I can't believe people in the USA can be arrested for Suspicion of Resisting Arrest... that's fucking wrong.


What the fuck!

That doesnt even make sense

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trashy_chicaJoined: 05 Apr 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 3:41pm
cleasc wrote:

Let's just hope that the Australian govt doesn't follow the US in this regard.


i dont know bout you guys, but i am sure as hell not going to let australia get that way! i am gonna find out who might be good to chat to bout current legislation, and perhaps find a local MP who has ideas on this.. its not just 'raves' that could be easily targeted, but any event thats large and may have people attending who believe in a few left-wing ideals...raves are an easy target, but this is about preventing gatherings, young people enjoying themselves, etc etc!
cleascJoined: 07 Feb 2005
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 4:43pm
A quote I found on "http://www.heraldextra.com" regarding the Versus II party:

Quote:
Let's be honest and not call it the War on Drugs. Clearly this is a War on Culture. How long will it be before the fascists start loading ravers (and others who choose a different path in the pursuit of happiness) into boxcars and off to toxic showers?

Land of the free? Land of liberty? Not hardly. Those are just slogans.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual ."
~Thomas Jefferson

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sneezing7Joined: 11 May 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 4:43pm
Thats pretty crazy~!

The police here in Ayia Napa (although not dressed in full combat gear), can pretty much do the same thing. Random raids seem to happen all to often. Basically they will just bust into a club / beach party / whatever and start ripping cords out of mixers & amps in order to cut the music.

Unfortunately the po-po are mega unforgiving. It's not uncommon for them to beat you within one inch of death if your not co-operating or are giving them flack.

Hopefully Aus never becomes like this
sneezing7Joined: 11 May 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 4:47pm
Not sure if you read about this:

Police action against CzechTek unrightful - human rights

PRAGUE- The police action against participants in the CzechTek technoparty in Mlynec, west Bohemia, at the weekend was not rightful, government human rights commissioner Svatopluk Karasek (Freedom Union, US-DEU) said.
He said that a number of problems connected with the technoparty were caused exactly by the police steps.

Karasek, however, refused to call on Interior Minister Frantisek Bublan to resign for this reason.

The senior opposition Civic Democrats (ODS) today called on Bublan (unaffiliated, nominated by Social Democrats, CSSD) to resign, but he said he was not considering it.

Karasek says that police now claim that they intervened only when CzechTek participants violated the law and legal complaints were filed against the party organisers.

Karasek claims that police could have acted differently. They could have avoided the chaos resulting in people walking to the spot through surrounding forests if they had regulated the traffic, or the participants' arrival in CzechTek in a better way.

Karasek pointed out that police had been strictly against CzechTek since the very beginning.

"They blocked the access road, they objected to the contract [of lease of the plot for CzechTek]. I do not understand why they did not find the contract all right, I am holding it in my hands,"said Karasek.

Karasek said that, in his opinion, policemen wanted to prevent the event since the very beginning.

He said that the government's human rights council would deal with the CzechTek case in the weeks to come. He, however, said he would not join the ODS call for Bublan's resignation.

Bublan blames the CzechTek organisers for the conflict between policemen and techno fans, as they did not communicate with police. He recalls that the organisers kept the party venue secret, and thereby stirred up police fears.

Deputy police president Vladislav Husak said that police had been astonished by the participants' brutality.

Dozens of people, both among techno fans and policemen, were injured during the weekend's police action against CzechTek on a meadow in Mlynec.

The ODS has accused PM Jiri Paroubek (CSSD), saying that policemen acted upon a political order, but Paroubek denies it.

The ODS wants to convoke a meeting of the Chamber of Deputies defence committee to debate the police action against CzechTek.
DeathMazeJoined: 03 May 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 6:06pm
oli wrote:
Heh. I knew someone would post this... I saw it yesterday.

Wouldn't suprise me if something like that happened at Enchanted Forest or some place like that...


Nothing quite like that could happen here....... yet.

Sure, parties here could be shutdown, but the cops wouldn't use guns, tear gas and quite so many indiscriminant beatings!

yeah
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plasticmanJoined: 03 Nov 2004
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Posted: 25 Aug 2005, 6:09pm
after watching the video id be spewing if it got raided by cops...was some nice tunes being played..

plasticman's fashion tip 1.- You should not have paint on your shirt unless you are a painter...or a sloppy artist!

tip 2.- PUT YOUR COLLAR DOWN!
oliAdmin
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Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 1:24am
UrbanDeathMaze wrote:
Nothing quite like that could happen here....... yet.

Sure, parties here could be shutdown, but the cops wouldn't use guns, tear gas and quite so many indiscriminant beatings!


Yeah I should have said "wouldn't surprise me if it happened in the future". Considering the way we are going now that future might not be too far down the track.

sneezing7: What happened in the Czech Republic was a little different. There were protests about the way that rave party was broken up for weeks afterwards and it was debated in the national parliament. I can't see that happening in Utah of all places...
jayarJoined: 10 Aug 2003
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Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 3:41pm
oli wrote:
UrbanDeathMaze wrote:
Nothing quite like that could happen here....... yet.

Sure, parties here could be shutdown, but the cops wouldn't use guns, tear gas and quite so many indiscriminant beatings!


Yeah I should have said "wouldn't surprise me if it happened in the future". Considering the way we are going now that future might not be too far down the track.


we're certainly heading down that path these days, being *FORCED* to adopt the same line on the 'war on drugs', 'war on terror', 'war on <insert random word here>' even if its so f#*%ing obvious that it does nothing to solve the problem (ie drug education, harm minimalisation etc etc) and being threatened with *TRADE EMBARGOS* (in the case of the sydney safe drug injecting rooms) Shocked

just yesterday, a NSW university was threatened with funding reviews etc by the australian government for having Mamdou Habib (sp?) give a talk at a forum held and organised by the students association ie two seperate entities.

if thats not a threat to free speech*, then i dont know what is
*and yes, i know its not a consitutional right in australia, but it is a sign of a healthy democracy.

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DnB MonkeyJoined: 17 Dec 2005
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Posted: 3 Feb 2006, 8:49pm
With John Howard in bed with George Bush we will end up like America.

Enjoy what rights you have now, because your kids probably won't have them.

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